Racsit Hotel owner tells Hispanic workers to change names

I seriously doubt he will turn this one around, time will tell.

Because you've been in the hotel business and turned hotels around.

I think most people are talking from an overly sensitive part of their mind.

Like what Mexicans try to do when they go into American cities....or in California (more specific) try to alter the house of representatives to represent them even though they are not citizens.

"Like what Mexicans try to do when they go into American cities....or in California (more specific) try to alter the house of representatives to represent them even though they are not citizens."

You do know the statement you made makes no sense, right? You're saying illegals or legal immigrants are trying to alter the House of Representatives?

Wow....

LOL... it still doesn't back up your theory of Mexicans altering the House of Representatives. Denny Rehberg is not going to represent "Mexicans" number one and number two, last time I checked and I'm sure I've seen it myself... this country has illegal Russians, Polish, Asians, Africans and every other group of people from a country here, because of illegal Immigration.

Stop trying to put info out there because you "think" you know something. Or because you read it in the newspaper. Mexicans and Latinos overall are in the spotlight because we don't beg for a dollar like the rest of the illegal bums that are here. The illegals you speak of, are trying to find jobs, work wherever they can and keep their family safe.

Also, WOW....

by the way JJ, do you travel at all? or do you stay in the basement looking up clueless facts?

I've traveled this country and it's many states and when I do, I seem to find a lot of illegal Asians (India, China and Korean) in many areas. Or are you going to tell me that they are illegal Mexicans (who altered their face to look Asian) as well?

Get out more JJ, maybe then you will see the REAL US of A you speak of.

We are discussing THIS country. California is the discussion.

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emocrats benefit. That's because noncitizen apportionment allows the creation of congressional districts full of people who don't have the right to vote--and Democrats almost always win in these places. Consider California's 31st congressional district, where 41 percent of the inhabitants are non-citizens. Last year, Xavier Becerra--one of the most leftwing members of Congress--carried it by attracting fewer than 55,000 votes, despite its population of 639,000. In many congressional districts, the winner needs two times this level of support. Steve Sailer of UPI crunched the numbers for California's whole delegation: In the eight districts won by Hispanics (all Democrats), an average of 80,000 voters went to the polls. In the other 45 districts, an average of 143,000 turned out--that's 79 percent more.

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Considering California borders Mexico and they have found tunnels to and from California that have been there for years...aside from the fact that there were protest in said state via Hispanic persons in mass....how would one think that the numbers are not boosted by Mexico?

People whose tongue teases the word racist but dare not because they know they are wrong.

Facts speak for themselves. Your offense of how I said it is of no matter. I have not said anything offensive. Mexicans come from Mexico and border states get illegals and their majority come from Mexico. It is a well known fact in the border states. It's ignored fact by those that like to toss around insults like racist.

You need to leave New York and come to the border states and then say there isn't a problem.

You know, ignorance gets me going but you're beyond that. "We are discussing THIS country. California is the discussion. " WTF???? Did i mention Spain? or maybe London? no, maybe Russia??

I guess by me saying that I've traveled this country and by me saying that illegal Asians are more common than Mexicans has nothing to do with your statement??? or maybe I've traveled to other countries and saw illegal immigration there and thought it was the Great US of A.... maybe that's why I said those things...

I know California borders Mexico, because I came through there, but you know what smart ass, I also saw Russians and Chinese cross the border with me that day. Or maybe they found a way to look apart from us "Mexicans"

You're the most clueless person I've ever known. STFU!!

You are trying to broaden the conversation so that you can be right instead of remaining focus. I'm talking about California because that's part of the statement you had a problem with.

You want to discuss who is the MOST in all of America...but that doesn't account for what I am speaking.

You do try.

But I think it's time for you to get over it and move.

You know...the way you handle things. Ignore it and run away---sorry get over it and move on. Sorry for almost saying it the right way.

I don't need to try anything, you're the clueless person on this site... well, maybe not number 1... but you do try hard.

I'll move on since you're not rational and still not making sense, twisting words around and making an ass out of yourself... oops, did i say ass? Time to flag me JJ!

Looks like you not only couldn't discuss the reasons for California having more Representatives because of illegals there...you couldn't move on in a timely manner.

Can't even do as you preach. Typical.

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You got zombie moves.

Jammer as usual you are speaking to issues that you are ignorant of, I live in California and have all my life. Let me make one thing perfectly clear, half of my family is Mexican and none , I want you to make this really clear..NONE of them are out of work, or illegal, none have ever taken a dime from the welfare dept. I want you to open your damned eyes next time you see on TV or on the streets how very, very few Mexicans are homeless living on the street. I can tell you this much your attitude towards the ethnicity of my family personifies the the ugly American. You won't cop to it, but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming that what really is getting under your skin is the changing demographics of the USA and there is not a thing you can do about it. The reign of the descendants of primarily northern European peoples is coming to an end in the USA and my friend you can either accept that fact or be tilting against windmills from this point on. In the southwest , no doubt there are people coming across without papers no question, the same way all those years ago the people from Europe arrived, is that old history, yes no doubt, does it change the fact that throughout history demographics have been altered by one group of people moving into anothers territory..no , not at all, it's what human beings have been doing since the beginning of time. Get over it and move on with your life.

I can't take you seriously when you have to go back in time and use that as justification for anything about today.

As for the rest of what you said---you can't find a single thing that I've posted that is wrong or crass. You can find things you found hurtful because you choose for it to be such..which is why you try to insult me in your post.

I know who I am and who I have in my family and as far as I can see in this thread---my family is the most diverse having almost every ethnicity possible.

I don't have a single track mind of one race like you have the pleasure of being, but nice try in your belittling techniques. They are far better than most---just not good enough nor smart enough.

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You're right I can't find a " single " thing wrong because in my opinion it's "all" wrong. You make huge leaps that require an individual to agree with your assessments to validate them...for example you have drawn the conclusion that Xavier Becerra won his district because 41% of his district is non citizens...first of all how do you reach that conclusion? Who's statistics are you using and you made no mention of who his opponent was...there are a myriad of reasons that one person wins over another..I could go on but this post is beginning to bore me to be honest, I've grown quite weary trying to explain the obvious . You seem to live in your own state of reality that is far removed from mine. Good luck with your position , and check the demographics in California in about 10 more years and let me know how it's playing out for your side.

You can't explain it because you're wrong.

You apparently don't know how the House works.

jammer you clearly don't know how life works.

I know how the South works.

You do not.

I also understand what it is like to live in a border state.

be careful! JJ will use a Latin scripture, that has nothing to do with this and dispute you! lol...

I actually find him entertaining.
We all know what he is actually doing in these forum's.
No one can be that myopic.

Looks like what they do when they come here and refuse to speak English.

Just like if an American went to France and demanded people to speak English when they've lived there for over 6 months---refusing to learn French. What would they say? Arrogant American.

I suppose that definition would also apply to the both of you for trying to enforce your thoughts on my race. I'm mixed...and there are, as far as I know, a total of three of us. Totally forcing what you think on my race--especially your hatred you're showing in this thread. Thinking you're smarter and better.

You racists.

Be careful KS will tell you your views don't matter and get over it.

Which is funny he hasn't done that here...as in get over it. I'm sure he'll get all hot and bothered and still come back instead of get over it.

JJ, if i'm going to get all hot and bothered, i'm going to go to my girls house, not here.

I don't know what you're trying to imply, lol... but it sounds a bit fruity. Are you suggesting that I come here and get all hot and bothered with you? I'm into girls JJ, please don't put your feelings out there for me like that.

Nothing like using gay as an insult. So tolerant of you.

Anyway---shouldn't you be getting over it and moving on?

Yes.

JJammer

the spin king

"I suppose that definition would also apply to the both of you for trying to enforce your thoughts on my race. I'm mixed...and there are, as far as I know, a total of three of us. Totally forcing what you think on my race--especially your hatred you're showing in this thread. Thinking you're smarter and better."

I am a 48 yr old white southern male.
I am guessing if you are truly mixed the other half must be Asian of some kind. They are more racist than we white American's.

"I'm mixed...and there are, as far as I know, a total of three of us"

What the hell does that even mean?
You are mixed with some species that only made 3 of you?

Keep em coming JJ...
You really do entertain me.

Dictating who is and isn't racist.

You're such the definition.

Pointing out that I have not made a single snide raciest comment would be pointless in this mire of them because people are offended by someone else they have to attack their what? Ohnose their race. How not creative.

I'm far more talented than that.

And you're far more unsophisticated to glean much of what I'm getting at---isn't that so?

And by the way---there is an edit button for a reason.

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If I had to be you that would be my response constantly.

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He's done this for 20 years.

Where is your experience?

his experience is in Virginia, I live in California, probably longer than you have been alive, I have an understanding of the culture of the Southwest that he obviously does not. I have owned a business for a number of years, successfully, had many latino employees never once demanded name changes or forbade the speaking of Spanish, as a matter of fact in areas such as this it's actually a bonus because there are many bi lingual folks who feel more comfortable with a Spanish speaking employee....jammer use your head here, don't be such a perpetual antagonist. The guy has created tremendous ill will for himself and his business, do you actually believe that is the road to prosperity?

He has done the same thing and turned hotels around.

How do you explain that?

And have you worked at a hotel?

I think asking them to change their names is insane and somewhat racist.

I dont think asking them to speak English is wrong at all.

You want to live in this country. Speak the language.

Mexico isnt changing their language for me.

now you make sense hatethemall, I agree with you that everyone that comes to this country should learn the language... but just because you haven't traveled to Mexico, doesn't mean you know what's going on down there. In Mexico, the second language is English...

If you're so Righteous about other races coming here and not speaking the language, why don't you go to Brooklyn, NY and tell the Russians the same thing. There are a ton of illegals and they don't speak a lick of english... go there and stand up for what you believe... i bet you, you won't last 2 minutes!

I am from Chicago. I am.....please no polish jokes.......Polish, German, Italian. Hell of a mix EH...anyways there is a very large group of polish immigrants in and around the chicago area. A large number of them dont speak english. Some are my relatives. I tell them to learn the language. I tell them they need to be able to read and write the language so they can be as successful as possible in their new country. Am I wrong for that? I dont think so. If I can tell my own countrymen to do it. I can tell others to do it to.

I would NEVER tell them to change their names. Hell if any of them were ever told to change their names by an employer, I would suggest to them they get an ATTY and file suit. and if ever I was on a jury in that type of case I would side with the folks that were asked to change their names and I dont care whether they are from Mexico, Poland Russia or any other country you can list.......yes in case your wondering...even if they were from Kenya.

Thanks for saying I make a little sense now...even a broken clock is right twice a day EH

I agree 1000% with what you just said hatethemall! I do the same with Latinos in my area and my family as well. I don't tell others to learn it, because some people just can't. Some don't have the capacity, education or money to learn it... but I agree with your statement!

Great comment!

Oh no doubt about the ability to learn it. I understand that some of the older folks have a tough time learning new things...hell i'm almost one of them now but what I try to tell them is their kids and younger adults need to learn it. Thanks and I am sorry for sounding like a racist. My apologies to all. I want everyone to be sucessful. I think knowing the language in the country you live is important to that success.

He Does bless this country.

Only the white people though it seems...............

¿Por qué usted odia la alameda?

hatemall, Learn to write before you post, we Latinos don't understand Ebonics.

Did that above statement translate correct?

@Ksirys

And I dont speak it so I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. BTW is that a racist statement you are making? If I was speaking "ebonics" as you say are you making fun of me for it? I am really not sure why you would even make such a statement. Please explain yourself a little better so everyone understands if you are making a racist statemnet or not. Because if I was a African American I would take offense to that type of response.

and I sure as hell dont speak or understand Spanish so not only do I not know if it translated right. I dont really care

I dont hate the mall. I hate them all. But thanks for asking.

@hatethemall

"And I dont speak it " lol... well, i would have said 3rd grade writing but ebonics was a step up. You're right, I shouldn't have degraded the word with your lack of writing skills.

My mistake! keep on hating hatethemall...

Yo no lo odio el centro comercial. Los odio a todos. Pero gracias por preguntar

Thats if the Google translator worked right. Hopefully it did and I just didnt write something offensive, something like.....We latinos dont understand ebonics so please learn to write

really? Like what you said earlier how you don't like Latino names "Jose, Jesus and Jorge" was any better... and guess what? current took it out because it was...

No I deleted it actually. It wasnt taken off by current. I think TYR made a statement about the names and what they should be changed to. It was an obvious slam against the folks in the south. I stooped to his level for a moment and thought better about it and took it down as soon as it went up. So do you have any other questions you would like to ask or are you now going to explain why yopu made fun of me for speaking ebonics and explain....like I just did what you meant by you statement?

Please explain why you made fun of me for speaking ebonics. I am sure there are a few others here who would like to know also why you would make that statement

I see you decided to stay away from the Russians and their illegals, figures much, but I do thank you for taking that comment down and I apologize for thinking other wise, i made a judgment call and I was wrong.

Now, regarding the ebonics statement, well, read what I wrote before... your writing is not the greatest and since I saw you post the "names" comments, I felt compelled to bring out your lack of writing skills.

Any other questions?

I'm sure by ebonics that Ksyris is referring to, "Speak the language of get the fuck out." I'm sure Ksyris meant to imply that you sound like an uneducated inner city kid with a foul mouth when you said this. However, if you want a more accurate meaning of the word ebonics, you are correct that it has racist undertones.

If you want, read the link on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebonics

Now legally, the point here is that unless these people who were employed by this man are illegal immigrants, he has no legal right to fire them just because they have hispanic names and speak spanish around him. Maybe they choose to speak spanish because it is culturally relevant to them and they want to keep their bilingual skills. Maybe they are talking shit to the guy in a language that he can't understand. If they are legals, and he can prove that they are talking shit about him in spanish, then he legally has the right to fire them. If they are illegals, then he should be more concerned with what kind of fines he might be slapped with.

We seem to be missing each other. I did answer the Russian question in the other response.

OK I totally missed the response you refered too.Out in space today I guess. My fault.

Varex explained it very well... As I have mentioned in the past, I don't support Illegal immigration, but I do support a change to help them and don't like the ignorance that's said about illegals in this country. Especially since there are all types of illegals that ruin this country, not just the Latinos!!

They are not here and they can not stand up for themselves!

So with that said, we are missing each other hatethemall!

"So with that said, we are missing each other hatethemall!"

Get a room!!!!!!!
At this guy's hotel....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Julian, you sound a little upset that you're not being invited! lol.. i'll see if i can get a joining room, just for you buddy! hehehehehehhe!!

God I hope this doesnt sound racist because its only meant in the best of light but I swear that I have always found the latino folks to be very sexy people. Heck Sometimes I watch spanish TV just to check out the people.

If I'm a little buzzed, sometimes I find myself turning up the volume and then I think to myself....WTF are you doing that for, you dont understand it......

ok thats enough.
you two stop it.
your scaring me!!!!!!!!!!

I wont go with out some J-Lo

I edited my response because after reading it I feel I did sound kinda harsh and that was no need for that. My apologies to all.

And I love those latino women. They are gorgous. The skirts and heels they wear drive me nuts.

Thank god for Univision

from racist to sexist....

i guess that is a step up.....

just messin with ya ihatethemall

I have always had a weakness for Latino women.....
Strong willed and beautiful......

it wouldn't do no good to bug there rooms...they speak Spanish in there...and i doubt he has any Spanish speaking friends..or any friends for that matter

DOH!

Well said Jenu!

Let's reach back as far as we can and ignore all present references.

Ames--: I want to hear you say your name. Your name is Toby. What's your name?

Kunta Kinte--: Kunta.

(Soundbite of bullwhip and screaming)

I remember watching for the first time Kunta being strung up by his hands and being whipped until he renounced his African name.

"What's your name!" yelled the overseer, as he instructed another enslaved African to violently whip Kunta. "Your name is Toby, boy! Say it! Toby" the overseer would yell.

After a grueling and prolonged exchange in which Kunta defiantly denounced the slave name and the resulting viscous lashing, he finally relinquished and whispered, "Toby."

"That scene was hard for us all," said a former cast member, recounting the episode at the Apollo Theatre.

"Something changed on the set that day. There was a clear presence of the ancestors' spirit among us that day and after the director said 'cut' we all stayed in character. It was like we had no choice," she says.

"In the scene, Lou Gossett tended to Kunta after he is whipped and after the director said 'cut', he just went into something that was completely off-script, which was later used in the film. As Gossett remained in the moment of the scene, he said lines that just came to him: "Don't you bother what those white folks say…your name is Kunta…don't you worry…there's going to be another day…"

From http://www.whatchusay.com/archives/2002/01/diggin_roots.htm

The "good" ole days that is

So you hate all white people because of what a few say????
Thats pretty racist too

hatethemall, what you said is pretty racist as well, so are you part of the KKK?

The KKK walk around in goofy ass looking robes. I do not. I prefer the brown shirts and the red arm bands thank you very much.

Sarcasm BTW.

and as far as racist statements. I would look again at what you wrote to me a few down. THAT IS a racist statement.

Why is that the first time we've heard about that judge? If he's been racist all his life then why did it take this long for him to get into the negative spotlight?

It's not the same as having a different name for people to pronounce.

India does it when they have call services. They change their names so that they sound more American since that is who they are dealing with. Oh no India is racist against their own people's names.

No. They are doing it so that they don't cause confusion on the phone and so they can focus on what is more important....the business and the question that the caller is asking not how to pronounce their name.

Want to keep your name as is? Live where it can be pronounced by those that are around you. Or just quit and work somewhere else.

wow, some people are crazy.. reminds me of my ancestors in nigeria. [im first generation, born and raised in the south. alabama and georgia] when they were being colonized by the british and dutch. they had the choice of death or join the anglican or reform churches.. but i guess if you want to live in your own country, you have to conform. right jammer?

In INDIA they change their names while doing the help desks and the costumer support.

They have all the jobs that America could have.

You stay the same.

They'll take the jobs.

Hasn't anyone noticed that JJ would use another country's policy to make a point. IF i lived in India and someone that is from my race asked me to change my name, for the sake of customer service (because that's why they do it, I should know since I owned a call center in India) I would've have said sure. But if someone of another race, wants me to change my name for the sake of their race, nah... that's racist!! but JJ would never see that... because he would use anything in the WORLD just to make a point.

They work for American companies. They wanted the job, they did what they needed to do to get money for their family. Is that not why they crossed the border? For money?

If culture was that important to them then why did they leave where it's most prevalent?

It doesn't matter. Get over it and move on.

Plain and simple people are afraid that their "losing their america" to the outsiders. Just plain ignorance run a muck. This would never fly if Teyshawn and Demarcus were told they will be going by shawn and marcus if they want to keep their jobs.