"Is this haunting picture proof that chimps really DO grieve?" Incredible and so sad.

Actually, humans ARE apes - we are simians, primates, and we belong to the Great Ape family.

interesting thought

Stupid thought. How is this recommended? You think humans don't have sincere emotions? For Christ's sake.

Maybe if you put "ALL" in front of that, then you'd have an interesting theory about humans being the only ones capable of deceit. But that would still be unsubstantiated.

And someone's talking about killing people who kill animals for meat up above. Did you ever think those people are just trying to survive and don't have the luxury of thinking about animals the way you do?

God I hate Current sometimes.

I'm all for understanding and protecting our fellow animals, but you extremists do more harm than good to these causes.

Doug, I think you're taking that comment out of context - - it's inferred that he means "unlike humans can be". And I don't see anything posted here suggesting that anyone condones or even suggested killing humans who kill animals. Maybe you misread something? If you hate Current sometimes because you don't agree with something you may be setting yourself up for a lot of disappointment since almost every thread has opposing view points. To me, that's the beauty of Current. Sometimes we even change our points of view by being open enough to look at it from a different perspective. Even if we don't, it makes us think.

Read Wessagusset_Oracle's second paragraph and tell me how I misinterpreted it.

I don't mind opposing views. I like debate. I hate Current sometimes because the views I agree with are often expressed in the extreme and often ineloquently.

That bothers me because it feeds into liberal stereotypes, justifies the ridiculous libertarian point of view that liberals and conservatives are the same and shuts independent minds down to considering these issues.

Okay, I see your point. I assumed he meant arrest them, stop them but I'll let him speak for himself. Liberals, conservatives and independents all can have different viewpoints and individuals can be viewed as ridiculous at times depending on how a topic is perceived.

dougy, you have to ask, WHY do these people need to kill wild animals? of course they don't have the luxury of other choices, if there was LESS of them, there would be no problems. that's why birth control, education, and yes, abortions are a must, to RESTORE sustainability and equilibrium to this planet. and they have no food cause there are no "food" factories, or land don't grow shit...many factors, their governments suck most likely.

it kinda comes down to this dougy, i don't want future generations to miss out on certain animal species, because they were all eaten, because YOUR cousin decided to have 10 kids and couldn't keep her legs closed and/or was uneducated in life. that's what it comes down to. it's supply and demand, the SUPPLY of humans is astronomical...and the supply of certain species is growing small. out of equilibrium. in 50 years, i want to see chimps when i go to africa, and not humans running around with AK-47s, get it? yes, chimps are more VALUABLE to society and this planet. if you disagree, then you're a spiciest!

There is no over-population in Africa. Those who hunt wild animals for bush-meat do so because there is insufficient food available because of government corruption.

perhaps, but if there were less mouths to feed, then there would be no demand for more food, hence over population.
but you bring up an important point, obviously africa is an inefficient place in terms of production of goods and services as well as corruption as you say.

So you're advocating population control by "eliminating" people who do things you don't approve of?

What a novel and moral idea! I vote we start with you. Psycho.

Oh come on Doug, he's suggesting no such thing.

Hahaha. My name is ironic and intended to throw off the simple-minded. It distinguishes free thinkers from, well, people like you Wes.

Come on Chique, read his response. Translation of his response: "Stop making assumptions. But yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting."

Stop defending this nonsense. This is what allows people to just write off causes like this by saying that the far left is just as evil as the far right. When it comes to people like Wes, they are correct.

You claim to be a "good" person, but listen to the hate you're expressing. You're a monster Wes.

If you do not care about the plight of animals and are just trying to undermine liberal causes, then keep it up, you're doing an excellent job. If you actually do care, then stop expressing your twisted thoughts. You're not helping.

Actually, I wish both of you would stop. When you call someone a psycho and make an assumption expect a backlash. When the backlash is over the top expect it to accelerate. How about we keep the anger and name calling out of it and just tell us where you stand on the issues guys? This is an emotional topic anyway and if you're trying to get someone to see your point of view, insulting them usually doesn't have great results. Peace.

What assumption? He said we should kill people who don't treat animals right. I pointed that out, perhaps in a dickish way, but he had his chance to retract.

Normally, I'd agree with you, but I don't really care to get him to see another point of view. I don't believe that's possible. I've seen enough extremists and I've never seen one respond to reason. In my experience, it's better to poke them and let them flip out and show their true colors.

I just want YOU to stop defending extremism because you're a higher level user and should operate on a higher standard.

Doug, I don't believe I'm defending extremism, but I do agree we should all operate on a higher standard, which was the only point I was trying to make.

Dougy:

we live in an extreme world, so your fake "lables" of extremist, leftist agenda, the far right...dude, slap yourself, really, you're talking generic rubbish!

I have NO AGENDA, left or right, perhaps you didn't read my posts, i represent the truth and eqalibrium. i don't think you understand and are even worthy of my time and wisdom, people like you why i don't post on current, because 95% of people on here and in this world simply aren't intelligent and/or evolved enough, but it's not their fault, they were born with a certain IQ and awareness of things. i just wish they would all shut their stupid repeating generic mouths and learn to listen instead of talking nonsense all their miserable lives.

and by the way dougy, i am on the highest standard, i do bring fury to those who disrespect evidence, fairness, justice, equality, and equilibrium. i'm all done here.

BTW - what is the OPPOSITE point of view (i consider all points of view), that it's ok to murder animals until they are extinct, just so we can feed a few more assholes? you're part of the problem if you think that. honestly you could be a cool cat, i don't know, i'm not here to crucify you, but your logic and motives are weak and shameful. and i never flipped out, i stated the facts in pure form and left you in the dust, you have nothing to say, but to label me as a monster, that was the best think you've said on here, thank you. that's all folks.

Hopefully with enough pressure and awareness this will change.
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I grew up with 2 boxers, they were 6 months apart and spent every moment together. The male died at age 11 and our female died soon after, about 3 months. She stopped eating and constantly searched the house and yard for him. She couldn't stand being without him. It broke my heart to see her that way.

There has been plenty of documentation of not only domesticated animals, but wil animals showing signs of emotion. It's crazy to think that ALL mammals do not have emotion, it's impossible.

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