Lieberman says he'll filibuster Reid plan
source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28788.html
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Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid’s has said the Senate bill will.
"We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now."
Lieberman added that he’d vote against a public option plan “even with an opt-out because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line."
His comments confirmed that Reid is short of the 60 votes needed to advance the bill out of the Senate, even after Reid included the opt-out provision. Several other moderate Democrats expressed skepticism at the proposal as well, but most of the wavering Democratic senators did not go as far as Lieberman Tuesday, saying they were waiting to see the details.
Lieberman did say he's "strongly inclined" to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he’ll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first.
"I've told Sen. Reid that if the bill stays as it is now I will vote against cloture,” he said.
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third_eye_view
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Such a selfish individual shouldn't be an elected official meant to represent what is right for the greater good.
Please don't re-elect this man... - 2 years ago
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third_eye_view
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samthesixth
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third_eye_view:
He was elected to represent the people of Connecticut not "what is right for the greater good."
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samthesixth
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Chique
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HP - Lincoln Mitchell: Is Anybody Still Surprised by Joe Lieberman?
2009-10-28- Lincoln Mitchell: Joe Lieberman's latest announcement that he will vote against cloture for a health care bill that includes the public option should surprise nobody, as Lieberman, in recent years, has demonstrated that his ideological home is no longer in the Democratic Party. Lieberman has also shown once again that he gets a lot more attention and a higher profile by being a Democrat and taking these positions. While he is no longer viewed as a voice of moderation, maturity and sound judgment from within the Democratic Party, as was frequently the case in the late 1990s, he is still in a stronger bargaining position, and a media favorite, because he is a Democrat. By wavering between the two parties while never fully abandoning the Democratic Party, Lieberman has made himself far more important than he should be. - 2 years ago
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Chique
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cmdinc
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Greedy insurance companies profit margin is less than 3%. We can almost make the same in a long term CD, but also have very little risk.
Can't we all have a discussion as to the problems with the existing HEalth Care? ya we know there are issues but to dump the whole system and trust Washington to do it, i think, is insane. They cannot run anything correctly. - 2 years ago
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cmdinc:
I personally think all insurance companies are total waste of time and money. They cause unnecessary paperwork, unnecessary time, unnecessary questions and denials and hate.
I thin that each person should have their own personal bank account that houses money that is started at birth and then gains interest more and more the less times it is used.
That way doctors have to compete with one another and offer not only fair cost but great care.
Swifter appointments and the like because there would be no need to do unnecessary paperwork and they wouldn't have to pay people just to deal with insurance companies.
Government over complicates EVERYTHING.
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ocanada
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cmdinc:
I'm sorry but insurance companies profit margins vary widely ranging from 18-30 percent. For a point of reference Las Vegas Casino's are only legally allowed to make an 18 percent profit. Our current system is noting but a twisted slot machine with worse odds than vegas of getting coverage.
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ocanada
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cmdinc
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cmdinc:
Ocanada:
I would have inclined to believe your assesment if not for the articvle i read. Take a look at the link, i was surprised. - 2 years ago
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cmdinc
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galwayman
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Without a public option it will be business as usual and the greedy insurance companies want exactly that! Liberman is simply marching to the tune of his masters! the greedy insurance companies do not want a public option because it will force them to change the way they do business! they can not be trusted to do the right thing by people all they care about is profits and don't care if people die as a result of their greed! A public option must be in the bill!
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galwayman
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ochreRobot
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I agree with others here, let him do what he wants and show his true colors. People will see him for who he is.
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ochreRobot
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samthesixth
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Lieberman sucks because Harry Reid can't muster 60 votes from his own party?
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samthesixth
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J_Jammer [removed]
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2 minute hate still going on? You liberals know how to throw a lynching party.
Funny that the other six democrats that agree are not being lynched in the same manner.
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Nephwrack
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lieberman, he gives corrupt politicians a bad name. almost as bad as grab yer ankles pelosi.
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eldamon
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They should have bounced this clown right after he got off stage on at the RNC convention. Now they should take his wrinkled ass out back and treat him like the jail house, pedophile, snitch he truly is at heart, in my personal opinion.
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eldamon
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SillaFace
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next election = zero votes for liberman
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SillaFace
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wtthfkovr
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Leiberman is a political whore that right now is feeding at the trough of the insurance industry, and the Democrats won't do a thing because they are spineless
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J_Jammer [removed]
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That picture makes him look like a retarded Kermit the Frog.
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ocanada
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J_Jammer:
I considered reccomending that but I'm too respectful of Kermit to associate him with lieberman.
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ocanada
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J_Jammer:
I agree with ocanada; that's an insult to Kermit.
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J_Jammer:
I do like Kermit.
But I couldn't resist.
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J_Jammer:
LOL...Poor Kermit....;)..
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J_Jammer:
He is a total muppet.
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He is no more a democrat than my mother is. Throw his ass out of the party if does do what he said he would. Screw the little weasle. And I thought he said he was a independent. They don't want him either.Good luck if you run again you stinking weasle.
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JanforGore
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He was never anything but out for himself.
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JanforGore:
That goes without saying......for most politicians...even the go green ones.
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JanforGore:
Yep in total agreement. Comment recommended.
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current89
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cmdinc
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you canibals. He was your best buddy when he was a dem. lol .....because the D after his name changed to an I he is evil?
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cmdinc
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cmdinc:
No he was not. The Democrats showed him the gate. You are delusional.
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cmdinc:
Ya lets kick people out we don't agree with. You will be the lone one on the island if you keep that up.
He was a dem when Gore asked him to run with him. Vice Pres nominee to kicked out...Hmmmmmm...
I don't hear you complaining about the other dems that are voting NO - 2 years ago
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cmdinc:
cannibals? At least we call it how we see it. Yes some of us can change our minds about how we feel about an issue or a person. This is what we call critical and free thinking. Why even have a brain or follow politics if you will agree with anyone someone says because they are in a party that you support?
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ochreRobot
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cmdinc
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cmdinc:
ochre,
Thank you, that is what i have been saying. Lieberman is being demonized here for exactly that, free thinking, as well as one who has listened to the folks back home. He is not lock step and barrel in the dem idea of health care, as well as a few more dems i might add. - 2 years ago
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cmdinc:
"I don't hear you complaining about the other dems that are voting NO"
You must have been busy listening to Glenn Beck telling you how Obama is reading your thoughts through your OnStar.
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RFIDemocracy
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cmdinc:
Truth hurts so much you have to hurt the truth teller back. oooh.
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cmdinc
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cmdinc:
rfi, i didn't insult you. so why do you feel inclined to do so to me, insecure?
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Lieberman gives assholes a bad name.
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yup he is a conservative in sheeps clothing! this guy is an embaressment to the entire state of CT. without a public option it is NOT health care reform it's business as usual! the only way to deal with these greedy insurence companies is to force them to complete.this guy is bought and paid for by the rich elite,just a puppet,and he jumps when his master speaks! I don't understand why voters in CT keep voting for him all he does is sell them out to his masters! he should be filibusted right out of office!
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One year your running as the democratic V.P. the next year your republican threating to filiabuster healthcare!This man needs to be watched closely.
To who's Intrest do you serve Mr. Liberman ? - 2 years ago
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jubal
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Brian_Clark:
AIPAC without a doubt.
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jubal
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Lieberman is a douche bag,
The dems need to let him know if he makes problems he will be in a world of hurt
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neocongo
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The Democrats put him there and they can kick his ass off the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Get Crackin!
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Tyr
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I agree , force his hand , i want the nation to see and be able to connect names with the position to deny them better health care. The sooner we vote the obstructionist out the better, and this puke is at the top of the list.
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masterzip
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since he is a republican,..this is no surprise...
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ksutherland27
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I hate being from CT because of him.. I HATE YOU
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current89
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In agreement with ocanada, in addition Liberman's vote against cloture would be a death knell for any re-election hopes he has.
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ocanada
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He will not. The reason is clear. That Harry Reid who gave him his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security committee can also take it away and has had pressure form progressives and institutional democrats on the hill to do just that because of his many public comments detracting from the overall well being of the democratic party platform. Lieberman only loves one thing more than himself and thats power. He won't give up his chairmanship for the sake of a filibuster.
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ocanada
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ocanada:
No, I think he totally would. This isn't the 1st time he turned is back on the Democatic Party and I'm pretty sure it won't be the last.
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ocanada:
Lets hope that is true.
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ocanada:
Let's also add that Obama campaigned for him. it's unfortunate term limits are so long for Senators. That needs to change.
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RFIDemocracy
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ocanada:
RFID: you mean length of terms, as there are no term limits for any member of congress. i think we definitely should shorten the length of Senatorial terms..AND institute Term Limits as well. Lifetime Term Limits...including appointed positions.
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hammywill
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ocanada:
"RFID: you mean length of terms, as there are no term limits for any member of congress."
I did. Best example has to be Byrd. He's been on the hill since BC.
"i think we definitely should shorten the length of Senatorial terms..AND institute Term Limits as well. Lifetime Term Limits...including appointed positions."
Agreed on both counts.
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RFIDemocracy
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Lurkistan
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Make the Republicans filibuster, as long as they do, it will be in the news and it will show everyone exactly who is denying them health care reform. Actually MAKE them filibuster, don't just say that its going to happen so back to square one, most people want reform in this area, the people who block it might be sorry come election time.
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Lurkistan
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pakazak
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and i am "strongly inclined" to puke every time i see him.
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