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Marijuana legalization expected to go to ballot in California

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Opponents of a plan to legalize marijuana for personal possession in California have conceded that supporters of the measure are likely to get their proposal on a statewide ballot, the New York Times revealed in a longer story about possible legalization Wednesday.

California lawmakers are taking up a bill that would legalize, tax and regulate marijuana, a first in the United States. Officials estimate the bill could bring in additional $1.4 billion a year, a huge sum of money in a state bedeviled by financial woes.
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54 comments // Marijuana legalization expected to go to ballot in California

  • Mephistopheles666
  • Mephistopheles666
  • Bren589
  • good_stuff
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      good_stuff  
    • That is a horrible way to look at it. If this passes you will have a job instead of being a criminal. Grow, start a shop, and grow some more.

      It certainly makes you wonder what will happen on the federal level. I think a lot of other states would almost immediately follow suit. Can we have a federal ballot initiative?

    • 2 years ago
  • SalvadoreSouza
  • juicie
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      juicie  
    • SalvadoreSouza:

      you might not rake it in if the prices go down to reasonable rates, but whats wrong with just making a living off it? Can't buy a lexus cash, but you can make payments on a civic.

    • 2 years ago
  • juicie
  • Darevalo
  • CarolineS
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      CarolineS  
    • omg if this happens i would love to move to california, sitting in the sun getting stoned, possibly the only good idea arnie has ever came up with!
      it's a shame they are only doing it to make money though marijuana is a plant that should be shared by everyone, not taxed to the high heavens to make corrupt governments more money to pay of never ending debt.

    • 2 years ago
  • Daimyo
  • fun_size
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • dirtymilk
  • Conniepae
  • Tricker
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      Tricker  
    • Put the money where it belongs and not waste the resources dedicated towards it. Make the tax revenue and pursue the drugs that have devastated America. Free the justice system for criminals, and take those billions of dollars and invest it towards education.Maybe even re introduce any sort of creativity into school again.

    • 2 years ago
  • anphan78
  • FoosMaster
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      FoosMaster  
    • It's not yet a done deal. Let's keep up the fight. The most important thing next will be to have an overwhelming turnout of people voting for legalization. I would caution people that just because most people support legalization in California that if they only show marginal support that it will hurt the movement in other parts of the country. It will take an Overwhelming turnout in California to convince politicians in other parts of the country that Legalization is the best thing for the entire country. You can bet that churches and police agencies will have strong opposition to this and they will turn out in record numbers to defeat any form of legalization.
      Let’s make this happen people. VOTE!

    • 2 years ago
  • hunzedog
  • zHellas
  • Wessagusset_Oracle
  • Daimyo
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      Daimyo  
    • smack an age limit of 18 or 21 on it, and sell it in gas stations and tax it. How many stoner stories have I heard and told of this... I dont remember cause I was high but thank god =P

    • 2 years ago
  • dragon1984
  • unimatrix0
  • UWAZell
  • Sean_O_Brien1
  • serenden68
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      serenden68  
    • Sean_O_Brien1:

      your ignorance is showing, you shouldnt dislike a person because they choose to paraphrase a word.

      me, personally. i say cali, and ima keep saying cali cuz i was born n raised in cali. but you shouldnt say i should get shot just cuz i say cali... thats just ignorance and stupidity.

      but i agree with the fact that i dont have to purchase from some1 with a 45 in their pants and willing to use it at any given moment.

    • 2 years ago
  • dragon1984
  • Mudboy16
  • Nesta
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      Nesta  
    • How can we afford not to decriminalize marijuana? The war on drugs has been ongoing my entire life and the stats do not show any decrease in use. This drug war is only to justify the many jobs involved in the prosecution machine comprised of politicians, police, lawyers and everything associated with prisons and their profits. Please let CA get the ball rolling so that we can become a more progressive society that shifts some much needed capital toward something other than persecution of a huge portion of our society!

    • 2 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • Nesta:

      If they tax it from farm to end product and point of sale, and regulate it, it is a win win for revenue, for businesses that sell it, for farmers, and for people who need it for medical or recreational use.
      Its biggest win is revenue and job creation.

    • 2 years ago
  • JuJubeez
  • PressCore
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      PressCore  
    • The doctor is in. Now relax, open wide and say AAAAHHHH-nold.
      Thank you Robin. You're welcome Howard. "Come and listen to a story 'bout a man named Jed. A poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed. And then one day as hes shootin' at some food, up from the ground come a bubblin' crude. Oil, that is. Black Gold."TEXAS TEA" (reefer). So afor 'ya know it, Jeb's a Millionaire. Friends said: Hey Jed ! Better move away from there. Ya' know Califory is the place ya' outta be. So they loaded up the truck and they head to Beverly. Hills, that is. Swimmin' pools. Movie Stars. " The Beverly Hillbillies. Time for the next great California Acapulco Gold Rush. By the way, nice touch with the azure color of the smoke. Keep those cool blue alpha brain waves coming there, Governator.

    • 2 years ago
  • caverat101
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      caverat101  
    • I've just watched the debate in California for the legalization af Marijuana. There were many anti-legalization protestors speaking their minds. Every one of them stated in one way or another that they had an affiliation with the church. They argued that legalizing marijuana would be devistating for our youth.

      My argument to that is this war being waged right now, is devistating to our youth. By keeping up this war on something so integrated into society we are teaching the youth to wage war on society itself. Instead of teaching our youth responsibility, indipendance, or how to love life, we are teaching them to obey blindly, hate life, and/or be jailed.

      It is up to us as a people to change for the better, to open our eyes a little wider, see the big picture. We will never improve as a world if we don't improve as individuals.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nephwrack
  • Kev_Dawg
  • cabinettags
  • juicie
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      juicie  
    • @ serenden68

      you underestimate the savings from legalization, the US spends 50 billion a year persecuting cannabis.

      We would save not millions, but BILLIONS.

    • 2 years ago
  • serenden68
  • serenden68
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      serenden68  
    • they should also think about industrial hemp; textile, animal feed, bedding, oils, herbs are some of the many uses that hemp has. and if farmed and industrialized not only will thousands of jobs be created, many more billions in revenue will be generated because of not only selling within the state but exportation throughout the united states and even the world.

      we as Americans need to take advantage of this now while the rest of the world is sleeping on this. it would help with our economy, global warming, and law enforcement.

      if legalized the united states would save millions in taxpayer dollars from the horrific failure "war on drugs", and Non-Violent offenders(smokers). cannabis would generate revenue and hemp would double that revenue.

      1 acre of hemp is equal to 4 acres of trees, so the need for trees would drastically decrease if its not eliminated. that helps because trees clean the air, and so does cannabis. cannabis also has a much shorter life cycle so the reproduction of products would be faster, and it also makes better stronger and softer products so its better than using trees in just about every way.

      Crime rates would decrease by a large amount because people are able to by from their own govt. in a safe secured area, with a product that hasn't been tampered with. rather than to by from a trigger happy drug dealer thats also ducking from rival gangs aiming to score money in that area as well, and the dealer selling you stress with LSD or some other substance in it. and drug cartels power would dwindle since their main cash crop has been legalized by the govt. and sold by the govt. so the cartels cant make money off something thats already readily available to the public.

      and for those who want to say something about the harmful shi* in cannabis although they dont even know. VAPORIZE IT!!!! it filters out mostly if not all of that harmful stuff, and a water bong does that also. you dont have to smoke a joint to get that effect. as a matter a fact the vaporizer is the best way to smoke period. better taste, no smoke(just cannabis vapor), better high, etc.

      im crossing fingers for this to happen.

      peace n much love.

    • 2 years ago
  • DreSandoval
  • serenden68
  • dragon1984
  • WakeUpPeople
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      WakeUpPeople  
    • If California succeeds, I hope that it causes a domino effect across the nation. The war on drugs is too costly and completely unwinnable while marijuana is on the list of illegal substances. God gave us a plant that, without chemical alteration or risk to our health, offers us pleasure, joy, calm, relief, peace, and a general sense of well being. The people who continue to consume it despite its illegal status are simply participating in civil disobedience. The number of peaceful people overcrowding our prison system is ridiculous. Legalizing cannabis will only have positive consequences for the individual AND the government. It's time.

    • 2 years ago
  • ii386
  • FlexSF
  • GavinTheMother
  • ii386
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      ii386  
    • ii386:

      What does that have to do with anything? Isn't it enough that I share the same passion about an issue? Why be divisive and make this about party affiliations instead of common sense drug law policy? I -hope- you're saying it in a kidding manner, but really, save it. Any person advocating legalization is a friend of mine.

    • 2 years ago
  • dozegotcha
  • caverat101
  • masterzip
  • freshfish
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      freshfish  
    • cant wait to see outcome of that vote.
      CALI smokers need to GET OUT AND VOTE your state can set precedent for rest of nation.

    • 2 years ago
  • noxidereus
  • bansheewail
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