Public still blames Bush for recession

you are trying to shift the cause to the current recession to clinton era budget designs. im just asking how is it exactly you create a budect taking into account rampant corruption?clinton could have paid off the national debt and bushes spending and deregulation still would have put us deep in the red.

How does this page go from " Public still blames Bush for recession" to racisim
People on here are like the old telephone joke where the last thing said has nothing to do with the first words spoken. Stay on subject to have a debate or to discuss an issue. The name calling adds nothing to the conversation.
tommic

As much as I'll admit that Obama isn't helping, it isn't rocket science to see why people Blame the Bush Administration.

Shit it isn't even Food Science.

It's not their heap that's collapsing.

If you are at thet op of the heap when it colapses then you will have the farthest to fall and probably be buried deeper than most in the dung when you hit.

Disingenuous to assert that I say Bush is blameless, freecrack, just because I pointed out that Clinton "started" the subprime fiasco. It was Bush's "Secretary of Goldman Sachs" that was there to start the "bailouts" for the bosses. Have no doubt that the people who make the decisions tell the "Clinton," the "Bush", the "Obama", and anyone else the public perceives as "of consequence" what to do, when to do it, and how. They own them, just like they (think) the own you and I.

trubunk how exactly do you exert any authority in any compacity if you are not viewed in some regard as above the rest, if my retarted nieghbor decides it we should invade pakistan we dont just all do it we yield to wiser judgements. the presidents job is to represent those better judgements not the common idea.

genekerman: hes in charge of the country for 8 yrs yet he is not to blame for the bad stuff that happens? at any point he could have decided to increase regulation a better safe than sorry logic but he instead felt serving the intrerest of the republican party in the short was more important than securing the countries economy in the long. 1 billion dollars a day spent on wars he waged under false pretences. our troops dont get kevlar not enough money but halliburton gets millions upon millions in no bid contracts. whatever economic plans were made in the past none of them would be able to take in account the massive corruption of the w white house

Who the hell should we blame the resession? If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck then it must be a duck. There's a quacker in that Bush.

Well of corse we still blame Bush for all the crap we are in he did it to us.

Bush ranted against Protectionism and Isolationism as being evil so we got clobbered by evil anyway.

I guess he failed to anticipate Chinese people would spray lead all over infant's toys to make the big bucks.

In the future?

G W Bush will be viewed in the future as the worst president the US has ever had.

Recessions or depressions don't magically appear in a President's term (or two) within a vacuum. There were factors beyond Bush that contributed to the recession, the people that believed they could buy houses beyond their means notwithstanding.

Blaming a scapegoat doesn't buy you out of a recession. The public needs to be smarter with money. Ending the belief that you can make money where there is none to build upon seems to help with that.

I get so tired of "the public" constantly reinforcing the legal definition "that vast multitude that includes the ignorant, the unthinking, and the credulous...who are guided by appearance and general impression". "New World Order" BusH II is neither more nor less responsible than (Cecil) Rhodes (Rule the World) scholar Clinton, who started the "subprime" mess on instructions from Department of Goldman Sacs (Freudian slip, but decided to leave it as appropriate) Secretary Rubin. As I sai in another post on another subject, it's Obama's issue now. He's only "changed" who appears to be in control of this crime, nothing else. It's his bailout, now; his illegal wiretaps; his support of torture.
He's now backed Bush II on every crime.

in this system that Bush and Obama work for, they are endowed with an unnatural status and are not treated as equals in society. they are elites. until they are treated as equal individuals, society will not know peace or justice.

I don't just blame Bush I blame the whole bloody government.

NO DUH BUSH IS 'BLAMED"

Bernie Madoff was able to perpetuate his Ponzi scheme while George W. was in the White House. Many investors lost money, due to the failings of the SEC, while George W. was in the White House.

Its not great when a man caused something he can't even spell

A little history , Ronald Reagan upon his election, along with his secretary of the Treasury Donald Regan, called for and congress passed at that time the greatest tax cuts in history by eliminating the graduated tax structure thus granting the greatest tax cuts to the very wealthy and modest tax reduction for the middle class all resulting in the largest deficits ever incurred by the federal government. In response to the huge deficits the next years budget social security tax revenue was applied to general tax revenues to reduce those deficits and worked only modestly.
Ronald Reagan and Donald Regan also oversaw the great de-regulation of the banking and finance industry.George H.W. Bush continued the huge deficits until "its the economy stupid" Bill Clinton won the Office of President and balanced the budget while riding the great high tech wave. Back to the son of GW George W Bush wins and the greatest deficit spending insues tripleing the national debt in eight years. Again resulting from tax cuts to the richest one percent. Before leaving office George Bush and Company bailout the financial markets with 700 billion no strings attached loans to the banks and financial insitutions. Now we've experienced the greatest economic downturn since the great depression through much debated government bailouts and deficet increasing stimulus money being spent to spur on the economy and some pundits and right wing nuts like to blame the financial problems on the democrats. History proves different. All the way back in history Republican Administrations have generated the greatest deficit spending by far, so their claim to fiscal responsibility is nonsense.

tommic
thomas mcmahon
millis ma

Are we being naive when we trust politicians or corporate executives? Remember the golden rule "He who has the gold, makes the rules." Lets go back to bartering and bury what little money we have left in the back yard where they can't get their hands on it.

does no one remember FUEL cost.. that is what killed our economy, thank you G.W.

And You Know What ?????? WE TRUSTED THIS ASSHOLE & WHAT DID IT GET US ???? LIES , AH 8 YEAR WAR ( Thats not over yet ) STEALING , NOT BEING
ABLE TO TRUST ANYONE ANYMORE & AH WHOLE LOT OF DEAD TROOPS !

the public still blames nixon for the malignant shit he did too why because he fuckin did it. time heals all wounds it doesnt excuse crminals

to quote a facebook bumper sticker, "this inauguration feels like the first date with a really great guy after an eight year dysfunctional relationship with a loser who spent all my money."

clinton actually started this disaster, it just finally caught up to us last year

He was just a puppet , or henchman , if you like . Obama is also . This is an old old story . Follow the money ....

im taking it back even further to blame woodrow wilson. The war on the working class of america is old but his ilk certainly fired early shots.

lol that picture...

i personally do not blame bush, he is retarded. if he had an iq over 30 and knew what he was doing then yes, its his fault. but you can't blame a retard for making mistakes... lol bush failed at everything

We can make it better by learning from past history. Those that don't learn from history are condemed to reapeat it. We fell into complacency about our economy by Reagunizing or deregulation saying the industry would police itself. In 1929 the economic leaders of this nation just looked to the short side or their own pokets. Under Reagun and his trikle down theory the economy would be able to self regulate. It did for about two years then big energy and banking decided to stop the trikle down and divert the rivers into their own pokets. When CEOs are pulling down multi billion paychecks especialy in our energy sectors this is not self regulating it is self searving. This means we have to count on goverment regulation or the system will break again.

i didn't take any damn loans out or get credit i couldn't afford and i still got the effing shaft, lowshred. i was laid off both of my jobs, had to quit school as a result, and i'm still having serious trouble finding a second and possibly third job.

Or, you know, we could take the blame. Never mind the fact that we took out loans and got credit cards we couldn't afford. But yeah, let's pass the blame. I know it helps me feel a lot better.

I'd say stop the blaming, because its our fault, revolution is needed.

how about we stop complaining and make it better? i think that's better than arguing who is to blame. (but bush sucks anyway)

Of course it's Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton and Reagan. It's been a total all out war on the middle class for thirty years.

Actually Ronald Reagan started this deregulation shit. Dubya just destroyed what little was left.

To make the analogy of a frat party, who do you blame? The guy who threw the party for 8 years, or the janitor that has spent only a year trying to clean it up?

Maybe he'll be blamed for Obama's miserable presidency as well. Perhaps we can also blame him every time we get sick, or every time our team doesn't win the pennant. Let's blame him for low SAT scores, and bad parenting while we're at it.

Edit: Oh and that cartoon depiction is clearly racist (see what I did there?).

No shit

What we truly need is to start 2 more wars that are financed by China while giving away every last dollar to Wall Street, and relax the regulatory laws that prevent corporations from raping every individual on the planet, and let corporations rape every last resource known to man.

Looks like some of the people can see clearly.

Is this the only thing he's being blame for? how about the wars? the lies? and the spying in our society?

Bush was just a whore for the banks and corporations, the real reasons behind recessions are banks, and not little banks, BIG CENTRAL BANKS! and ofcourse as humanity we have to take some blame for being mostly ignorant to where money comes from.