Obama stimulus plan delivers 650,000 jobs; saves economy

"OH MY GOSH!!! Morgan, is that YOU? (sniff!!) You almost sound like a c....con....CONSERVATIVE!!!"

I'm still a damn dirty liberal in some ways.

"I don't think The President is expected to "heal the sick" and "feed the poor" - but I do expect a certain amount of social service programs being developed, funded and followed up by the Federal Government."

I have no problem with social services either, but the problem is that the federal government is more than just the president. Congress's job is to make the law, and the president's job is to make sure the law is enforced and properly executed. That has gone awry over the course of the 20th Century.

"Delia, fallen is a libertarian. he's going to be against social programs in any form. i understand and heartily agree with you, but arguing spending with libertarians is like yelling at a brick wall to get out of the way. great posts!"

I am not against social programs.

So, let's be clear, Delia. Your livelihood depends as much on theft as the care of those "less fortunate".

Don't know where you found that "definition", Delia, but it wasn't the Constitution. And as for "enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials...(and) approves or vetoes acts of Congress and grants pardons", every president in my lifetime has refused to enforce (certain) laws; ignored treaties (which are negotiated by the Executive, but approved by the Senate); and ignored court rulings. Policy, and the budget ar the Constitutional domain of Congress (the House of Representatives, in the latter case).
Enjoy your kool aid

Fallen-

Yes, the President is the "leader" of the country, and I'm pretty sure that mentality goes back farther than FDR. I found this definition of the President's job description:

"The Constitution assigns the president two roles: chief executive of the federal government and Commander in Chief of the armed forces. As Commander in Chief, the president has the authority to send troops into combat, and is the only one who can decide whether to use nuclear weapons.

As chief executive, he enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. He also approves or vetoes acts of Congress and grants pardons."

Perhaps you could explain to me how Obama has reached outside of that job description? I don't think The President is expected to "heal the sick" and "feed the poor" - but I do expect a certain amount of social service programs being developed, funded and followed up by the Federal Government.

All in all I think your comments are pretty melodramatic and misleading. WHO expects Obama to be a "messiah?" WHO expects the President to have full responsibility of everything that happens in the country? I certainly haven't personally ran into anyone, liberal or conservative, republican or democrat that expects Obama or any other President can magically fix every problem America has.

Wow! That's a lot of Big Macs, Barry!

lol. i love the new new deal tabloids.

"What does this even mean? I can't believe nearly a year in this nonsense of Obama as a "messiah" is still being perpetuated - and it's only by critics. I've yet to hear one democrat or Obama supporter speak of him in such terms."

It's not just Obama I'm talking about. Ever since FDR, the president has been our dear leader, expected to fix the economy, heal the sick, feed the poor, and protect us from every imaginable threat from hurricanes to terrorism. When that isn't the president's job. And giving the president so much responsibility is dangerous to the health of our nation.

"That's the point I'm making. You wouldn't know it isn't his job by the way he addresses his proposed action on issues like these."

So that was sarcasm, what you said?

as of the time I posted this there was 79 views and 12 responses yet it has been in the top 5 now for 12 hours or more. For that reason it gets added to current propaganda. for obvious reason.

AS IF....and I have a condo in the congo for sale.

Get your brooms. I'm calling shenanigans.

"It is if he says it is."

We have a president, not a fuhrer.

This really isn't significant considering that over 500,000 people apply for unemployment every month.

OK, it didn't say that that obama has had a recovery, it said that the stimulus was effective at providing jobs to americans when private industry, that you all worship so much, dropped MORE people than the stimulus plan made in the same time frame... what if we hadn't had these jobs?

It's not the president's job to fix the economy. All this bailout does is increase the federal deficit and continue the status quo of big government and a "national messiah" presidency.

This is blatant hyperbole at best and criminally dishonest at worst.

Obama's stimulus may have been successful, but a quarter in which job loss -slows down- is NOT an "end" to the recession.

These things take time.

bullshit !