Judge rules Feds can search e-mail without notice

I didnt see anyone bring in bush... maybe the patriot act, but i doubt bush was smart enough to read that let alone write it......

Oh. and I guess this is Bush's fault!

what can we even do about this if we don't know it's happening? ugh...this stupid government.

This is something that has been taking place for several years. It began with the Patriot Act. it is the way law enforcement gets around the 4th Amendment.
As to this ruling, it is not the Supreme Court, therefore the only place it has any teeth is within the jurisdiction of that court.

The major problem with type of thinking is who is considered the government. Under the Bush/Cheney ideal the government organization was privatized and many services contracted out to private companys. Corperations are notorious for taking what they want and hiding behind their government contracts.(Halliburton, Betchel, GBR), Just to name a few. And don't forget that we even have a privat mercinary force here in the U.S. named Blackwater and many other international company's entitys running other parts of our government institutions. So define witch government has a right to our information. Our own or everybodys. It seems that we are heading for a one world government weaher we want it or not. HAIL TO THE NEW CEASERS.

one if by land;two if by sea;three if by web...dont tread on me ! * * *

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/31/AR2009103102141....

Can anyone tell me that there is that much criminal activity going on for real, or is it just a reason to infer it so they can spy on those who want to have America back??

Did madhouserevival really just say that?( Who cares if they violate other people rights as long as it's not you. They are criminals, I'm not, I don't have to worry. Quit acting like they violated YOUR liberties. ) Wow, not sure who the bigger enemy is, the government that violates your rights or the ignorant people who allow history to repeat itself. You, madhouserevival, have no right to life, liberty, freedom, or the pursuit of happiness precisely because you are apathetic to everyone else' rights and your own. It was people like you that were just as much at fault for the deaths of the Jews in WWII as the Germans who actually gassed and shot them. Your rose colored glasses are tinted beyond the legal limit. Hey, write that last one down, that's a good quote, lol. Wake up, madhouserevival and quit endangering the rest of us. I fart in your general direction.

THEN WHO WAS PHONE???

I so agree with Ihatethemall on this. How sad that most Americans want their crap food and their crap television and who cares about anything else. If I didn't know that they had been manipulated over years to become the worthless blobs they are now I'd almost agree with the elites. I'd agree that if they were disposed of; they wouldn't be missed much. Not by the planet, not by their neighbors, not by their families and not even by themselves. They only exist to show up on a Nielsen rating. Talk, socializing, exploring, imagining, dreaming, swimming, running, flying...We are, each and every one of us, capable of all these things. Most of us only experience someone else' life on television. This is probably the saddest thing of all. When Americans say they are fighting overseas to protect the things we love at home, they mean low prices, big cars, beer and football games. Rednecks yelling something vulgar to the cheerleaders on the sidelines, yes, this too is worth killing innocent foreigners over. Sick, makes me sick to my stomach to think these same people will go to war over a lie without questioning it and give up their freedom to the same people that lied about the war. Then, they puff up their chest and call themselves patriots and defenders of the soldiers. A 'Patriot' would educate themselves about their own government and do something about it when they violate our rights. A defender of the soldiers would keep them safe at home protecting our borders and refuse to send them into an illegal war to kill innocent people. We are the 'Weimar Republic'.

What seems to be the worst part of it is many of you dont seem to even care. You have a....well im not doing anything wrong so who cares....attitude. Pathetic bunch of excuses for citizens most of you. You all deserve the government you will soon have dictating to you. I, and the few others who still cherish our freedoms wont.

The attorneys in this case seem to be as poorly trained in the ways of technology as the judge. This case would have been subjected to the same rules of search as any other item if a few simple things were done.
1.) locate the email accounts of the judge, and the prosecution, and their families.
2.) read them aloud in court.
I'm fairly certain that the judge might take a different stance when their viagra order confirmation order is read, or their adult content is paraded for all to see.

Who says this stuff wasn't happening before?

that old chestnut

What if you're a child molester, rapist, stalker or murderer? It is very unlikely that there will ever be a federal investigation into your emails unless you fall into the aforementioned categories, so stop acting like it's an attack on YOUR liberties.

Its not a matter of if you have something to hide.... Electronic communication can easily be tampered with and modified.... Not to mention the whole constitution thing.....

MAISRY says because he doesn't do anything criminal he's not worried. Apathy at its worst. There is a dead man, executed, in Texas that was innocent. There are many innocent people in jail, falsely accused, falsely arrested and falsely convicted. If you give the government more power they will assuredly abuse it creating more falsely imprisoned people. All of these people were doing nothing criminal, just like you, Maisry.

Creepy.

Man, I'm tired of the Government and all their Nazi spying bullshit, we should start a freaking revolution and go up to the white house like "Say hello to my little friend!"

More spying on the people that pay their salaries. Good Job!!

And you don't think they have been sectetly reading Everyone's e-mail since the "Un-Patriot Act"? This only allows them to get out of law suits it they are caught.

If you encrypt your email, they may ask you, or compel you to reveal it, but you can refuse (self-incrimination... there was a relevant case some months back).
However, they can then go to the recipients and liberate their email for perusal... i.e., trying to find anything that has been decrypted..

the only thing i get in my email is, "new music out armada" ,"you got a response current", "shipping notification barnes and noble" and "you have won $1000000" i have nothing to hide, hehe i am smart enough to keep my personal stuff away from the seeing eye

Crap crap crap crap crap.

Welcome to America, Home of the Semi-Free and land of the Ignorant.

This doesn't sound any different from searching a suspect's physical property. Not being involved in anything criminal, I'm not worried about this.

Let's hope it gets appealed and taken to the supreme court.

i love watching my bill of false hopes disappearing before my eyes

If everyone is upset with the government taking away their rights then i have an easy solution... organize all the working people and get them to stop working. It collapses the entire system easy. lol, well not that easy

Meh. With all the hackers and such these days, I'm not surprised if someone's looking at my stuff right now o.O

what are they gunna do. see that everybody fu)king hates them and hide and lie some more while they fuck us. WE WILL NOT HIDE in our houseS like they did in russia while they pull out our neighbors AND DRAG THEM AWAY..if you think that you dont know shit about AMERICA...thats why we have 200 million guns and a military that is on our side....fuck you theiving slave owning money hungry greedy co)ksuckers.
YOUR MONEY IS NO GOOD HERE !

I thought this Big Brother bullsh*t stopped when the Bush admin left office. Not sure why I thought the establishment would give back power that the people let up so easily. If Thomas Jefferson was alive he would undoubtedly support an uprising. Sounds like a lot of work though.

Well isn't that Fascist?

What will it take before you quit disregarding my posts and pay attention to what's happening in your world? Ignoring it won't make it go away. Denying it won't stop the unemployment rate. Apathy won't help anyone. Turn off the TV and speak out. Spread the info!

With all the freedon loving people I know who are actual supporters of the constitution I write to every day, I am sure they are already watching mine.
Fuck the government, FBI, CIA, DHS, SS, and any other agency that may be watching me.

Another page turns in the Orwellian book of nightmares...how many times must America be slapped in the face with reality of the insidious erosion of her freedoms?

Emails can be tampered with ! This judge is wrong .

Gestapo tactics to say the least.

O.K., but who's watching them???