Veterans duct tape flag burner to pole
source: http://patdollard.com/2009/09/veterans-duct-tape-flag-burner-to-pole/
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- Ihatethemall
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remanns
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O SKREW EM. If someone burned my Ultimate FF 23, 24,25,....AND I CAUGHT EM, I would strip em down, and use several tubes of super glue to cover their gentiles(heh, editing now, but funny,make that- "genitals") with shredded "shit comics"; its Tar and feathering,...run em out of town,...old school meets NEW school. FRAK em. Basically----"NOT ON MY YARD,......NOT WITH MY STUFF". The only reason we have police is so that WE dont have to spend the time. But there is always some pleasure in "do it yourself."
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remanns
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bailey78
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remanns:
Yep!
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bailey78
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402Chicago
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why would he burn the flag because someone wouldn't serve him alcohol...don't get what the stars and stripes did to him. N stupid idea doing it at a VFW spot...at least he knew he screwed up and volunteered to serve a punishment.
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402Chicago
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CarlosIsDown
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He didn't have the right to burn a flag that wasn't his. The vet didn't have the right to duct tape him, but the guy agreed to it, so there.
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CarlosIsDown
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StraightFace
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lol. I wonder what his other options were?
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StraightFace
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asherp
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What a bunch of assholes.
His only crime is freedom of speech. They've committed assault.
The flag was probably made in China anyways.
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asherp
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Ihatethemall
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asherp:
Are you aware that the flag BELONGED to the veterans? The drunk stole it and burned it. Thats not America. No one has that right.
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Ihatethemall
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402Chicago
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asherp:
the flag belonged to the vets so it wasn't his property...that's a crime. And this wasn't in protest or anything it was retaliation. so it has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
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402Chicago
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JanforGore
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asherp:
Probably bought in Walmart too.
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JanforGore
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asherp
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asherp:
It was in protest of them not serving alcohol!
I watched the video, and you're right. A drunk guy destroyed somebodies property. That happens all the time.
And that stuff about it flying over a foxhole in Iraq is bullshit. There aren't foxholes in Iraq. The War in Iraq was an urban assault utilizing mostly air-strikes and chemical weapons like White Phosphorous. There was actually little to no troop presence on the ground during the actual war. The occupation, however has required a lot of troops on the ground. But they aren't in foxholes either.
We haven't used foxholes since Vietnam. The old fart is lying.
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asherp
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timetide
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asherp:
"The old fart is lying." well duh, most vets do.
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timetide
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St_Alia_10191
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"You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free"."
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St_Alia_10191
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Ihatethemall
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St_Alia_10191:
You are aware that the guy burned SOMEONE ELSES flag right.
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Ihatethemall
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St_Alia_10191
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St_Alia_10191:
Dur, forgot to finish. I was also going to say that being a douche to veterans is a very bad idea.
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St_Alia_10191
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Ihatethemall
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St_Alia_10191:
OK Cool. I wouldnt deny someone the right to burn their own flag either. If thats what they want to do.
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Ihatethemall
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asherp
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St_Alia_10191:
So the drunk guy should give the vets the $15 bucks he owes them.
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asherp
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remanns
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St_Alia_10191:
No. If I advertise,...."shit to burn, 15$",....then ....whatever.Otherwise DONT FRAK WITH A GUYS STUFF! There is no "presumed" offer on the table. Dont "make it up" as you go along.
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remanns
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sgwhites
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St_Alia_10191:
Nice movie reference, btw. :) I love The American President.
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sgwhites
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cabinettags
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It's not a smart move to rile our vets. Especially at a VFW and especially anthing to do with dishonoring the flag. No way would they let that pass. Doesn't matter where. The kids lucky they didn't hand him his socks.
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cabinettags
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tomofnorthcal
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That's funny.
I'm still waiting for someone to duct tape a right-wing corporate lobbyist & his CEO master to a flag pole. - 2 years ago
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tomofnorthcal
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wayseeker
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I understand their anger at him. It's too their credit that they responded in this way and not with violence.
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wayseeker
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JanforGore
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Yes, not as much acid towards those who vote for the Patriot Act? Or steal an election? Or spy on Americans? Or torture? Or tap our phones without a warrant? Or read our e-mails? Or stick us in first amendment zones? What does the flag stand for anymore? Empire?
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JanforGore
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Ihatethemall
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JanforGore:
Well in this case if nothing else.....it stood for someones personal property. And if nothing else the drunk who did it stole someones elses property and destroyesd it. At the very least he is guilty of theft and probably got off easier than had he stood in front of a judge.
I could care less if a person wants to burn their own property and that includes the flag. He burned someone else's. Thats not right. - 2 years ago
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Ihatethemall
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trut
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JanforGore:
The US soldiers should be given the same respect as any other occupying armies have in the past, Red Army in eastern Europe or Nazis in France, none.
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trut
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
They should have called the police to report vandalism, because that basically was what it was considering it wasn't his property. Other than that, I think they actually broke the law as well by doing what they did to him. MY point was that there is much blood on our 'symbol,' and no amount of patriotic guilt trips aimed at people who give honest opinions about what the flag now stands for is going to change that.
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JanforGore
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asherp
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JanforGore:
THERE WERE NO FOXHOLES IN IRAQ.
The actual war was fought with sea to land projectiles, and air to land projectiles, with minimal troop deployment.
The OCCUPATION has been what's required so many troops on the ground, and they aren't in foxholes, they are in patrol bases built by KBR and Halliburton, complete with bathrooms, electricity, McDonalds, Best Buy, Starbucks, and Roy Rogers. We haven't used foxholes in warfare since Vietnam, and that old fart is lying. He probably bought his stupid made-in-China scrap of cloth at Wal*Mart.
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asherp
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iloveravi
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iloveravi
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dv627univ
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flag not a toy.... symbol of our freedom...... he's lucky the vets didn't give him worse
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dv627univ
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asherp
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dv627univ:
Why? It's just cloth. What it stands for is more important.
The flag stands for freedom, like the freedom to burn the fuckin' flag.
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asherp
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randallr01
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Those people are batshit crazy...
It's time to burn a flag in that town in protest. Where is it, again?
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randallr01
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Ihatethemall
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randallr01:
WAY WRONG
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Ihatethemall
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larrysnotes
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randallr01:
It is Fayetteville, WV 25840. Burn away. Hope you like the 870 ft. drop.
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larrysnotes
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timetide
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randallr01:
I'll join ya rand. don't claim to "fight for my rights" (or whatever bullshit they're spewing now) then pull some shit like this.
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timetide
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Ares
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randallr01:
tide:
Are you fucking serious? It's a ridiculous notion to thank a veteran for serving (so you don't have to) by burning the flag they defended. You might have the freedom to spit in the face of those fighting in your place, but you shouldn't be surprised when men of action bring the consequences to you.
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Ares
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GavinTheMother
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randallr01:
The flag is a symbol. If you don't believe in what the symbol stands for, then why do you claim to defend it.
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GavinTheMother
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timetide
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randallr01:
why should i thank them for killing people? the last veterns deserving of respect are those who fought in WW2. The US fighting force has had no honor since then. If the veterns honestly believed in America they would of called the cops on the drunk idiot but instead they took matters into their own hands. On top of that is anybody else getting annoyed that veterns keep demanding that we honor them for being idiotic enough to go murder people?
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timetide
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Ihatethemall
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randallr01:
They didnt ask for you to thank them. They just dont want drunks to steal their shit. I dont think thats asking to much from anyone. Do you?
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Ihatethemall
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asherp
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randallr01:
I'm an Eagle Scout, and I'll burn a flag for the sake of burning a flag just to prove that it's just a fucking flag, and the FREEDOM THAT IT REPRESENTS is more important than a scrap of fucking cloth.
Burn the cloth, I don't give a fuck. America isn't a flag, it's a set of ideals, which these veterans apparently are unaware of.
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asherp
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Ihatethemall
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randallr01:
They are aware of the fact that the flag belonged to them and some drunk fool stole it.
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Ihatethemall
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402Chicago
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randallr01:
for all of you saying he had the right to burn it, first. No, not his property. Second, why are you defending him? It's not like he was protesting America or our ideals, he was drunk and burning it because the man wouldn't give him alcohol. Basically think of the man having a family picture hanging and the drunken idiot took it and smashed it, same thing. It wasn't in protest for anything it was just a retaliation.
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402Chicago
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lordsbassman
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randallr01:
The flag came from a fox hole in Afghanistan.. A solder brought it back to his town where he grew up..
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lordsbassman
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asherp
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randallr01:
Well if the big deal was that the flag in question wasn't his flag to burn, then the story shouldn't be "Veterans duct tape flag burner to pole" it should be "Barflies tape boisterous drunk to flagpole for destroying property" and then it's not newsworthy, because that shit happens in towns all across America every night.
What's more is that I don't buy the story that the flag flew over a "foxhole" in Iraq.
The Iraq war has used entirely URBAN assault tactics. What's more, our military hasn't used "foxholes" in battle since, what, Vietnam? The main weaponry used in Iraq was air strikes. The actual war against Iraq required very little troops on the ground. It's the occupation that has required so much troop presence. And occupation doesn't require foxholes, it requires patrol stations. Which is something different entirely. They have bathrooms, beds, coffee makers, electricity, etc all provided by KBR and Halliburton.
I think that old fart made that shit up about the flag to make what he had done over the destruction of a fifteen dollar flag seem that much more glorious.
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asherp
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timetide
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randallr01:
here here asherp!
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timetide
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GavinTheMother
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Thanks for fighting for our freedom...as long as we agree.
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GavinTheMother
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twohawks
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He is so lucky there were any vet's there with any willingness to think through 'options' for him, and get the others to even consider it. Talk about stupid. He could have been wearing the top of that pole in a dirt bed somewhere ...with the only news-line we would ever see reading... "Flag Mysteriously Disappears with Top of Flag Pole at Veteran's Bar".
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twohawks
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bluestranger
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I can only imagine what the other options offered to him were. Even though this young man acted like a drunken idiot at least he chose correctly.Hopefully it is a lesson well learned.
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bluestranger
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larrysnotes
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Nice job !
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larrysnotes
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bailey78
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works for me.
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bailey78
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kennymotown
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I've been to a couple of VFW's and what the hell was going on in this drunken bastards head. Man those guys don't play, hell if you walk in with a hat on your head you have to buy a round of drinks for everyone there. What a fool!
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kennymotown
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lordsbassman
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Haha! That reminds me of Boy Scouts in so many different ways... That VFW Commander gave him a good lesson!
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lordsbassman
