Ancient human metropolis found in Africa
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Something amazing has been discovered in an area of South Africa, about 150 miles inland, west of the port of Maputo. It is the remains of a huge metropolis that measures, in conservative estimates, about 1500 square miles. It's part of an even larger community that is about 10,000 square miles and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to 200,000 BCE!
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treewolf39
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Great view with Google-Earth. Food for thought
- 2 years ago
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treewolf39
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onechance
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I wish humans could stop fighting about things they really know nothing (with certainty) about... I've been guilty of it myself. It's funny that we all think we're so smart, to the point that we alienate each other. Let's end war, starting here, with positive discussion.
- 2 years ago
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onechance
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onechance
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INCREDIBLE!!! Everything your teacher taught you was WRONG. Love it! Great post, once again V!
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onechance
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Gravity_Man
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Civilizations like these indicate we're out of time. We seem to have limited runs. This time has to be different. Stop cutting of all trees.
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Gravity_Man
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jubal
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I am we with excitement. It is about time that people will learn the truth, that humanity has been on this planet for millions of years. We have risen and fallen with the ice ages. Someday it will all cycle again. Question is are we doomed to repeat the same mistakes again? Are we going to continue to believe in superstitions and make war with one another?
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jubal
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artemis6
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At least science is willing to do a rewrite , after enough evidence is found .
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artemis6
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Monkey_Films
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yeah, I saw that Ardi article, too. So much for the scientific timeline, time to rewrite some things, huh?
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Monkey_Films
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JuliusBC
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The story of humankind is reaching back another million years with the discovery of "Ardi," a hominid who lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now Ethiopia. Luci no longer holds the title of the oldest human remains.
The link to the story follows:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/oldest_human_remains_found_in_ethiopi...
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JuliusBC
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JuliusBC
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I recently read an article about how they have traced all human DNA back to an origin of Africa. If this is in fact true, then all humans have African DNA. This has and will cause a great deal of dismay amongst those that have a racial conflict raging within. In the article, it was stated that from one time period to the next, there were slight changes in the DNA mapping; however, there were still DNA links showing the connections. It is a lot like the way they do paternity tests.
The theory is that humans started in Africa and gradually migrated to other parts of the world. This migration was over a period of hundreds of thousands of years. As humans evolved, their DNA also changed and evolved. These changes are evident from ancient remains discovered in different geographical locations. The mapping of the gradual migration was quite traceable by the gradual evolution of the DNA.
Perhaps the Adam and Eve thing isn't so far off from being true in the sense of stemming from a garden of Eden (Africa). I am not so sure about the apple and the snake part. That is probably a result of theatrical special effects during the stone age.
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JuliusBC
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JuliusBC
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JuliusBC:
This is not the article but it is a supporting article if interested.
http://www.genomecenter.howard.edu/genome_article.htm - 2 years ago
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JuliusBC
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theoneness
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I found an ancient metropolis created by the enslaved spawn of alien gods in my yard once, but I didn't go around looking for attention on the internet about it.
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theoneness
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JuliusBC
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theoneness:
You missed an opportunity to start a reality show!
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JuliusBC
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idealist
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i wanna go chill there!!!
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idealist
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cgardner2020
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idealist:
Yeah, and smoke a big fat fatty!
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cgardner2020
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LowShred
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The site that the article is linked to is filled with tabloid like journalism. I'm half surprised Bat-Boy isn't on there. This piece is bull.
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LowShred
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kennymotown
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I read a book while in flight to Germany back in the early 70s The Black Planet, the author had figured the planet has had 3 major kill offs in it's history evolving advanced civilizations. It's only a matter of time before we find evidence of these civilizations.
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kennymotown
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Gravity_Man
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kennymotown:
Kenny, I thought every generation now was a new civilization.
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Gravity_Man
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bubidu
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I can't believe this article made it to the main page!
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bubidu
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bubidu
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bullshit! 200,000 years old.. people you gotta discriminate what you read!
did anybody bother googling the article or the people in it? - 2 years ago
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bubidu
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bubidu
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bullshit! 200,000 years old.. people you gotta discriminate what you read!
did anybody bother googling the article or the people in it? - 2 years ago
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bubidu
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Peacenik46
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This is precisely why I got into... that ... job I do... No, actually this has nothing at all to do with that. But this is quite nice too!
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Peacenik46
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royulery
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india has similar stories and large ancient gold mines. they speak of; gods, demi-gods and demons who battle from different planets (lokas). a scripture called, greater earth, (maha baratha, not sure of spelling, i read it over 30 years ago) speaks of a battle earth had with another planet, earth won with their giant spacecraft but was depleted of materials by the long fight.
their story of the aireans sounds similar but their scriptures are vast and cover many thousands of years of contiguous history.
i'm sure the great scholars of india will produce comparative works. - 2 years ago
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royulery
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LowShred
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Get your brooms everyone, I'm callin shenanigans on this one.
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LowShred
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loupetho
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If it sounds to good to be true then it probably is.
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loupetho
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rebelution07
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That's Amazing!!
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rebelution07
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sidewaysclyde
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interesting if its legit
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sidewaysclyde
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Jpwhoregan
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I just read a few articles from the source website, it's just like the national enquirer.
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Jpwhoregan
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vicgal
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I question the dating. It also concerns me that they can’t survey worth a damn. Not the signature of superior beings (aliens or gods)… also smacks of DaVinci code fictional propaganda to sell a book.
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vicgal
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Jpwhoregan
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This is garbage, thanks for wasting my time.
If I wanted a fairy tale, I would read the bible.Besides, when did we unlock the human genome? Oh that's right we haven't, so how do we come up with an Origin of Homosapiens? WELL LETS JUST MAKE IT UP!
Who needs science, let us pray.
Evolution through natural selection, not evolution through Mitochondria Mary or Eve or whatever you decide to call this new character in your fairy tail.
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Jpwhoregan
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SleepDirt
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Jpwhoregan:
"Who needs science, let us pray."
LOL Fitting slogan for 21st century America.
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SleepDirt
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TheOuroborus
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Oh yeah, that's an entirely credible site. About as believable as the pyramid in Serbia.
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TheOuroborus
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cgardner2020
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TheOuroborus:
Oh, you mean this one? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12320566/
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cgardner2020
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TheOuroborus
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Somebody get Erich Von Daniken, quick!
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TheOuroborus
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bombastinator
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That might be true if it was all one wall. looks to me like it's not though. it's a repeating pattern of three small connected rings inside of one big one. Sounds to me more likely that this was some sort of semi nomadic group that either kept on burning down their stockades or had some other reason to move periodically.
Also the thought that is some kind of wall may be a erroneous assumption. It could well be some kind of patrol route that got ground in by repeated travel. Possibly even by animals. For all we know at this point all they could possibly be evidence of mushrooms or some other similar giant ground fungus.
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bombastinator
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ii386
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No this isn't amazing at all. if you believe any part of this you are simple minded and gullible. If this is soooo amazing.... then why haven't you seen ANY OTHER NEWS ABOUT ANY PART OF THIS STORY ANYWHERE ELSE?
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ii386
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jrooksbe
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Before this bs article gets into the aliens. It is obviously not form an anthropological background considering the oldest homo sapian remains dates to 160,000 anything before would be archaic or various other hominid remains that have been found. The south Africa/ east Africa is great for preservation and is where most hominid remains are found. A site like this would have been dated using other techniques than a calender.
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jrooksbe
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thewarnerla
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this is awesome and amazing. Lets start the digging!
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thewarnerla
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Thhines
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Great find, amazing..
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Thhines
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KSirys
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Great stuff Vierotchka!!
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KSirys
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indecisiveh
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It is very interesting that this city was discovered, but, they are really stretching the boundaries of reason and jumping way to much on conclusions. Many of us are happy with the simple fact of an ancient city discover. The God=Alien stuff lacks serious discipline and rigorous evidence. It's ok to hypothesize, but, they are making a mockery of what should be an important discovery and opportunity for research.
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indecisiveh
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twohawks
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Thanks Viero.. what a great post. I cannot wait to see what comes of this.
Tip google: humans south africa 200,000
..and have some fun ;^) - 2 years ago
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twohawks
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cefirak
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THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!
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cefirak
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regjoeschmo
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Flying Spaghetti Monster says: YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!
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regjoeschmo
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nursediesel
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This is neat!
It would be great if they could verify what about this info is true and accurate. Some sciences are very hard to except new info. They push aside things they distrust for many reasons. (looking foolish?)
Our world is full of wonderment and fantastic feats that require amazing physical and mental abilities to come together. Look at the pyrimids! How amazing was it when Carter opened the burial rooms of King TUT!
People would have thought he was nuts if he told them of these things with out physical and tangible evidence.
Look at the Sphinx. TV still has material regarding new theories about just thatpart of the earth.
We've been ignorantly digging up archeological sites with plows for years here in the USA.
The possibilities are endless. We need to have an open mind but verify.
Thanks for this site, Vierotchka. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel
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tribe2
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There are mysteries all around us, the true nature of things concealed by a gross material wrap. For the truth to be properly perceived it takes an open mind. it's the nature of ignorance to reject what they cannot understand with fear and hatred.
Maybe it was aliens, maybe it was a giant bearded man who lives in the clouds or a flying spaghetti monster. I think all possibilities must be considered and studied if we ever really want to know the truth.
Then again, do we really want to know the truth?
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tribe2
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csmonut
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Great read! Thanks.
I am going to keep a watch on this one! - 2 years ago
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csmonut
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artemis6
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Archeology , is a pretty competitive field . If this was significant , they would be all over it . I have trouble believing in aliens , because I have not seen one , nor any compelling evidence of any . It is not impossible , though . However the DNA evidence for our evolution is so clearly seen , in the DNA itself , it's hard to believe otherwise . Also sometimes evolution can speed up all on its own , if the environment is stressed and a species must adapt to continue . Humans are , after all "the great adapters" .
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artemis6
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UrbanGypsy
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The source is questionable and the news has not appeared in any major publication. That, coupled with the strange consipracy-theory-like clams about Aliens and Hybrid Humans tells me this is all gooblygook.
Interesting, but unfortunately doesn't pass the test for credibility. Thats why it hasn't been mentioned in any geographic or archaelogical publication, magazine, or journal of any repute.
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UrbanGypsy
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rodstradamus
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Wheel in the sky keeps on turning.
http://current.com/items/91348483_movie-thunderbolts-of-the-gods.htm - 2 years ago
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rodstradamus
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etienna
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I wish this would go a little main-stream.
I'd love to see it on SNL's Weekend Update "Really?!" segment.
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etienna
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regjoeschmo
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People were shunned and ridiculed for hypothesising that the world was round or that the earth revolved around the sun......Not until further scientific data was obtained was the truth found out and the original hypothesis vindicated..... Being overly skeptical is the same as being overly gullible.....
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regjoeschmo
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etienna
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regjoeschmo:
Again:
"The creation of man seems to be described as a type of cloning and what we would today consider in vitro fertilization."
Do you mean to say that you believe that this is a possibility?
- 2 years ago
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etienna
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noxidereus
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regjoeschmo:
Let's not forget that people didn't accept that the earth was spherical and not the center of the universe for religious reasons. It is because they failed to be skeptical of their religious beliefs and they ignored the scientific and mathematical data that showed that the earth was spherical.
When did the Catholic church finally admit that Galileo was right? 1993!
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noxidereus
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regjoeschmo
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regjoeschmo:
Do you say its impossible?? I cant say one way or another, which is why I have stated that there needs to be scientific investigation.... Things on that nature cannot be proven or disproven, which is why they are so good at causing hypothetical debates..... Still with this and any other type of "new discovery" one must keep options open and also read between the lines when reading something in which the author has imputed their own personal beliefs onto......
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regjoeschmo
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jac1992
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No no no, the earth is only 10000 years old.so this can't exist. Therefore this post does not exist, which means this comment doesn't exist which means I don't exist? Ignorance hurts my head
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jac1992
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ii386
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So where's the rest of the scientific community on this supposedly huge find? can anyone find someone other than this dude to verify ANYTHING in this article?
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ii386
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UrbanGypsy
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ii386:
Exactly, he source is questionable and the news has not appeared in any major publication. That, coupled with the strange consipracy-theory-like clams about Aliens and Hybrid Humans tells me this is all gooblygook (Not to mention the guy is a 2012 doomsdayer).
Interesting, but unfortunately doesn't pass the test for credibility. Thats why it hasn't been mentioned in any geographic or archaelogical publication, magazine, or journal of any repute.
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UrbanGypsy
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Stradius
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I love this kind of stuff. But I'm still skeptical about the dating they're claiming. That said.... Stonehenge is still not 100% understood and for all the time I can remember articles like this one were full of conjecture about what it was for. I say send an army of archaeologists in and let's get some data out of it! Also... now I am compelled to read Sumerian legend!
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Stradius
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noxidereus
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This isn't really credible. The author is a 12/21/12 doomsdayer.
http://www.endworld-2012.com/2009/03/page/2/This is nothing more than pseudo-science, along with bigfoot and the loch-ness monster.
"The next calculation was presented by a master archaeoastronomer who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule by the academic fraternity."
Real scientists backed by real scientific data aren't afraid of their colleagues' verification of their findings. It's part of the scientific process. The only people with anything to fear would be liars.
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noxidereus
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UrbanGypsy
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noxidereus:
Agreed... just pseudo-science. Good call.
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UrbanGypsy
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Sam_the_Wizer
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noxidereus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tellinger
According to Wikipedia he's a musician that latched onto this theory. I took an Archaeoastronomy course in college and spent a lot of time talking about the Sumerians. There definately were some strange things about that culture that support this hypothesis, but I agree that Tellinger lacks scientific rigor. It would be equally unscientific to dismiss this claim until sufficient evidence is produced to discredit it.
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EmperorThan
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I just remembered the Family Guy of what Ireland was before discovering alcohol hahahahah, maybe Africa was like that before discovering guns?
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SB420
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This is a really big deal. This is a whole 'nother wing of ancient history that we know nothing, and probably never will know anything about. Pre-Sumerian civilization could change history as we know it. This is a very interesting find.
On another note--TAKE THAT, YOUNG-EARTHERS!
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SB420
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etienna
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SB420:
Did you read the whole article? Particularly the quote:
"The creation of man seems to be described as a type of cloning and what we would today consider in vitro fertilization."
Seriously?
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etienna
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tribe2
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SB420:
and immaculate conception is so plausible
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tribe2
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coolbamf
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for all who will say this disproves creationism, please note not all Christians or Creationist believe in a 6000 year earth or a literal 6 day creation. Religions evolve and interact with knowledge in general, that which cannot be explained is put to God, correctly or incorrectly. FOR ME the perfection of this complex system point to a Creator, the age of the earth holds no bearing on this thought.
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coolbamf
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etienna
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coolbamf:
Thank you. :)
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etienna
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redneck818
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Christians need to start to re-think how the good book is translated if this is true
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redneck818
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animaladvocate
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Cool stuff
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animaladvocate
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lionessgrrl
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i'd like to see an article like this, but without the crazy.
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lionessgrrl
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naty_forty
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Great post V, thanks for sharing.
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naty_forty
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Vierotchka
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asherp, Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca) is the name given by researchers to the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living person is derived from hers. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived at different times. It has absolutely no connection whatsoever with Genesis or any other religious book.
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Vierotchka
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CalPerr
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This is interesting but kind of crazy. I hope this physical material and sites are examined with a more methodical and varifiable approach in the future.
Still awsome - 2 years ago
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CalPerr
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asherp
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As I read through this webpage, it seems that it's trying to make a real world example of the allegory of the bible's Genesis.
They talk about "Mitochondrial Eve" and "Mitochondrial Adam" and that the First Homosapiens were slaves who left in exodus... uhm.... what?
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asherp
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alman365
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I'm sure I can't believe anything this guy has to say, but it is certainly something worth looking into. Why not? who says we know anything about our own history anyway? We always stumble upon things about our past we never knew before, why not stumble upon the beginning?
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alman365
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armchaircritic
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Interesting. I'm reading a book by Michael Cremo at the moment that suggests that human civilisation has been around on earth FAR longer than current academic literature will recognise.
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Monkey_Films
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armchaircritic:
Exactly
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Monkey_Films
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Mark701
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But, but...this can't be true! The earth is only 6,000 years old!
Interesting article. If true this is a huge discovery. I'm surprised that I've never heard of seen of this before. Is the article above the only source for this information or are others available?
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Mark701
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regjoeschmo
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Remember folks as of now it is still in hypothesis as to the intracacies, and still it is not an exact science.... we are still learning more about many other ancient civilizations we thought we already knew about......
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regjoeschmo
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lu7cky
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Very interesting indeed, however the basis for much of the alien god/sumeria connection is based on work by Sitchen whose translations are now regarded as flawed to say the least. If found to be as desribed though, this would seem to support his thories.
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lu7cky
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CalPerr
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lu7cky:
dispite translational diffrences that could be drawn any where between 'alien' or 'angel' and 'slave' or 'second class citizen' this is still cool
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CalPerr
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ozoneocean
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How gullable can you get? Read the article and you'll see. It might be fairly old but probably a litle over a 1000 in reality. The cretins are dating it with some silly stone callender for goodness sake, that's illarious- you can set that to any subjective time you want just by picking and choosing your astrological references. This is beyond inane... lets get back to reality.
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etienna
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ozoneocean:
Fo sho.
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etienna
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ii386
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It was very cool until it started talking about alien gods and hybrid humans on the last page..
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ii386
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Vierotchka
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ii386:
Can you refute such? There is much that we don't know, in fact, what we don't know is infinitely greater than what we do know.
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Vierotchka
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asherp
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ii386:
There's no proof of aliens gods or hybrid humans. It's unscientific to make a claim that there were. Just like it's unscientific to make the claim that God made everything.
This is creationism. Different story though. I'm going to guess that if this was actually examined by credible scientists we'd find that this whole story is a bullshit set of arguments based on fallacious conclusions made from made up "facts."
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asherp
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ii386
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ii386:
everyone without the scientific background that is unable to personally refute it should NOT take this as true because we do not know and as you say, there is much that we don't know. so not knowing doesn't equate to taking as truth. That is known as being gullible. The old adage applies "if it is too good to be true it probably is." This is too cool to be true. I could only hope I am a half god hybrid but to take this literally is comical.
Until a significant body of scientific evidence and scientific consensus (rather than this guy) tells me that aliens came down, then I would have to reevaluate. I sincerely doubt that is the case, although as I said before it would be AWESOME if it were true.
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ii386
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ii386
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ii386:
"It mentions that the Sumerian tablets indicates that a race of beings was engineered about the same time as our first common female ancestor existed"
No it doesn't. The dating method they used to get that answer is first of all very questionable, especially when they don't want to reveal the name of who did the dating. Second, that website doesn't mention that the Sumerian story of Atrahasis mentions a year, date, or time that corresponds to this ancient civilization claim. The only correspondence there is that the mitochondrial DNA modern humans have dated back to 150-250,000 years ago. Nowhere in the Sumerian text can I find any correspondence. What is being said on the website is that this ancient civilization and the questionable way of dating it corresponds to the mitochondrial DNA. So there is no proof validating 1) the date being correct from extrapolating Orion's belt. 2) Sumerian texts indicating a time or date or some way of figuring out a time or date of this ancient civilization. The only thing they are saying that is correct is that IF this date IS correct, they would been contemporaries with mitochondrial DNA 'eve' (as much as it pains me to say call her that). That's it.
Onto the next point... So you are a proponent for the global flood which is a creationist theory in order to support the bible which that story was taken from egyptian beliefs and so on... Ok well I think the wikipedia page on Flood Geology sums it up best
"While it is not geological evidence, believers in Flood Geology also point out that flood stories can be found in many cultures, places, and religions; this, they suggest, is evidence of an actual event in the historic past because local floods would not explain the similarities in the flood stories.[46]
Anthropologists generally reject this view and highlight the fact that much of the human population lives near water sources such as rivers and coasts, where unusually severe floods can be expected to occur occasionally and will be recorded in tribal mythology [47]. Geologists William Ryan and Walter C. Pitman, III have suggested that the rapid filling of the Black Sea (c.7,000 BC) at the end of the last Ice Age may be responsible for the flood myths in the Near East."And if you search for flood geology... you will find creationist websites... yeah. NOT CREDIBLE. and it is appalling a person of science is pretty much regurgitating pseudoscience, although geology is not your expertise.
Read this http://www.atlantaapologist.org/rtb/resources/Papers/floodgeology.htm
To basically sum it up...the dating method is questionable at the least, the sumerian text doesn't correspond to anything, the mitochondrial DNA modern humans have traced to 150-250,000 years ago is ONLY LINKABLE when you ASSUME that the DATING was CORRECT.
THERE IS NO ANTEDILUVIAN LAYER! ha! There has been NO PROOF OF A FLOOD SWEEPING THE EARTH! omfg i can't believe you're a scientist. please someone with a geology degree get on this conversation
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ii386
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ii386
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ii386:
"Astronomical dating can be a powerful tool for establishing absolute chronologies, but...
it can easily produce precise and impressive looking results based on invalid assumptions –
results so precise and impressive they may not be questioned by scholars in other fields.
—John Steele, "The Use and Abuse of Astronomy in Establishing Absolute Chronologies. - 2 years ago
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ii386
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ii386
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ii386:
It looks like you'll believe anything. yeah i did say condescending things and that was simply because your points were not cohesive in explaining anything that I didn't get from the first time reading through the article. i'm sorry, lets get over that. you avoided all of my points so why bother responding at all? the instructor in college told you that there was a layer of soil that is from the same age ALL over the globe? and that layer of soil was caused from a global flood that covered the WHOLE earth at ONE TIME? Alright I'll ask my geology professor about it on monday, deal?
as far as the whole insult over reason thing... did you read anything i wrote? I didn't do ANY research (it was obviously not needed just from the lack of sources, explanations, and failed connections...oh yeah and gods from the sky...) and apparently NEITHER DID YOU! you're repeating what you heard from that website and from your professor so get off your high horse. I did a quick search of your so called layer of flooding and guess what it came up with nothing. If you want I will further research it through geology journals and get back to you. this bulletin board is NOT a source of information and i dont know where you got that idea, this is a discussion board...
- 2 years ago
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ii386
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SleepDirt
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ii386:
Kari_Heaberlin
My information has it that there are eight to nine 'great floods' in ancient records.
- 2 years ago
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SleepDirt
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ii386
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ii386:
Once again, you avoid all of what I had previously stated in a weak straw man attempt. All of what I had presented is ignored and you claim I hurt your feelings "at every turn," instead of providing substance. In an attempt to ratify to another person you are obligated to ratify it to yourself first. You attempted to do so but after my response you make no further attempts and complain only how mean I was to you. In my "callow" opinion you have a duty as a person of science to do a reasonable investigation before you put your 2-cents in. The comment you posted combined with your claim to fame as a scientific person put you in the limelight for criticism. A scientist making claims outside of their realm of expertise without at least doing their own investigation (whether it be a survey of google, wikipedia, or journal searches) is irresponsible. Should you have researched or had any intuition to question what disputable facts were present (as a scientist should do) you could have seen how the comments you posted were combined in a way that cannot be proven. Linking the reality of the data from the Human genome project and saying that the Sumerians somehow knew that date and origin is a stretch and cannot be derived from anything I read in that article.
The comment from Sleep Dirt provides exactly what I am attempting to communicate--there are great floods but there are not global floods, as you stated, that can be found in the geologic record from around the world at the same time.
Just to spell it out for you...
"What is interesting to note about this claim is that there actually was a flood that occurred about 4,000 years ago, based on geological evidence taken from around the world. The layer of soil, from which evidence of a great flood sweeping the earth has been proven, is known as the "antediluvian layer," and its existence implies that a flood did in fact sweep the globe for unknown reasons."This would be a valid statement with the exception of a few key words. Those words are "from around the WORLD" and "implies a flood did in fact SWEEP THE GLOBE." Those parts are grossly invalid. Therefore you two cents on both points were invalid. They were claimed without any research done on your part and yet you claimed to have credibility as a person of science. This, and don't take it personally, is a despicable thing to do.
Now that I am pointing it out a little nicer, do you finally have any rebuttal?
- 2 years ago
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ii386
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isnamthere
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Another turd in the creationists' punchbowl.
- 2 years ago
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isnamthere
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asherp
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isnamthere:
Actually this is a creationist story. The people at this website posit that we were created from apes through cloning and genetic engineering by Aliens from the planet Nibru.
Still creationism. Still bullshit. Different story.
- 2 years ago
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asherp
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isnamthere:
Sorry, I'm not sure how this in any way damages the Creationists viewpoint.
- 2 years ago
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Monkey_Films
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SleepDirt
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isnamthere:
"160,000 to 200,000 BCE"
That part.
- 2 years ago
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SleepDirt
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loved this stuff
- 2 years ago
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Jeffnfun631
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iamfree
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from the article-The area is significant for one striking thing -- gold. "The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger. "And if this is in fact the cradle of humankind, we may be looking at the activities of the oldest civilization on Earth."
I thought that was interesting since i read a book by Zecharia Sitchin saying that beings from another world came to earth and found humans on the planet in africa...they enslaved them for the use of mining gold and other precious natural minerals.I didn't really believe it because we would have found massive gold mines..but now..i have more ideas to play with.Thanks for sharing this:-)
- 2 years ago
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iamfree
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CalPerr
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iamfree:
Totally seperate from what has been said before but that doesn't mean one should always ignore it. I like how you waited for evidence to even consider the arguement(honestly).
- 2 years ago
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CalPerr
