Fireman Admits Again: 9/11 was an Inside Job
source: http://1933key.com/9-11-Conspiracy/Fireman-Admits-Again-9-11-was-an-Inside-Job
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Think about the ramifications of this statement. One of New York's own firefighters revealed publicly that 9-11 wasn't the work of Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated, and executed by elements within our own government. Isaacs also added, after pointing to throngs of police officers standing around us, that, "We all have to be very careful about how we handle it."
Preeminent researcher Jim Marrs (Inside Job: Unmasking the 9/11 Conspiracies) also quotes author Randy Lavello, who wrote the following about Paul Isaac, Jr.: "New York firemen were very upset by what they considered a cover-up in the WTC destruction. Many other firemen knew there were bombs in the buildings,' he said, ‘but they are afraid for their jobs to admit it because the higher-ups forbid discussion of this fact.' Isaac, who was stationed at Engine 10 near the WTC in the late 1990s, said the higher-ups included the NYFD's antiterrorism consultant, James Woolsey, a former CIA director. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,' Isaac added."
The above information was corroborated by Nico Haupt in the November 1, 2004 edition of 911 Skeptics where he wrote, "[Isaac] explained to me that if the building had 'pancaked' as it's been called, the falling floors would have met great resistance from the steel support columns, which would have sent debris flying outward into the surrounding blocks."
Adding further weight to this argument is Greg Szymanski's July 21, 2005 article entitled Former Auxiliary NY Fireman Is 'A One-Man Investigative Team' When It Comes To Finding The Truth About 9/11 where the following quote appears: "When Isaac first watched the towers collapse from a block away, he said they ‘strangely came down like a house of cards, in their own footprints' in what he called a perfect demolition job."
Isaac also reiterated what a 9-11 survivor told me during our protest at Ground Zero on September 11, 2005 --- that emergency radios were buzzing with information about bombs being detonated inside the World Trade Center towers. Isaac told Szymanski in the above-mentioned article, "I heard some crazy things over my radio in those days, things I can't repeat on the phone."
Also, Isaac directly addressed the gag order placed on firemen and police officers in Szymanski's article:
"It's amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs," said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.
There is certainly more information of this nature related to Mr. Isaac on the Internet, so here again we are hearing first-hand evidence from individuals who were on the scene (i.e. William Rodriguez) saying that the World Trade Center towers were brought to their knees not by the airliner's impact or the resulting jet fuel fires, but instead by a deliberately executed controlled demolition. Tragically, due to heavy-handed pressure from officials at the city, state, and federal levels, we are still not hearing the entire story.
Last but not least, researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also in attendance at the WTC 'open grave site' on the afternoon of September 11, 2005, wrote the following on APFN: "I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth! Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 911 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing!!!!! I had tears in my eyes."
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This situation is now becoming much more clear to me.
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That's what turned me into an activist. I figured if it could happen to me, who's to say it's not happening all the time, to people everywhere. How many are innocently in jail and the prosecution knows it? I decided it had to stop and I couldn't sit around watching football games and wait for someone else to step up. So, here I am.
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PressCore I too have first hand experience with corruption in the government. Mine was local vice that didn't want a secret I happened across to come out in the open. Attempts have been made on my life, tens of false arrests and charges, all of which I beat. The problem is even if you win, over time they run you and family and friends out of money so they win anyway. Nice justice system, huh. Of course, they made laws saying they cannot be sued, how convenient. Then, they murdered a woman whom also knew the secret but not before she called me to warn me. Well, now I know two secrets and they must make life even worse. I've spent a lot of money on counter-surveillance equipment just to keep myself out of prison. It is kind of funny when you go to court and provide your copies of the recordings which seem to prove that parts have been re-arranged or deleted conveniently on their copies that they planned to convict you with. However, when you remember that this case where you made a fool out of them just cost you $100,000 you stop laughing.
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Once again, wonderful and helpful information PressCore. In addition, George W. wrote a paper in college extolling Hitler as one of the greatest political minds in History. Sick. And you mention that some act similar to the CIA's disinformation people. Yes, that, and some probably are disinformation people, especially the persistent ones that yell, 'Conspiracy!' at every corner and with 'malicious slander substitute for thoughtful, factual refutation here on the Internet'.
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Monkey_Films:
For what it's worth, I was the victim of the CIA's surreptitious MK Ultra LSD field experiments which was followed up with a 2nd degree Felony Assault. I was stabbed in the back of the neck and implanted with a foreigh object that had radioactive properties from what the pathology lab report I have mentions. I went through dissociative amnesia for 2 years until I was able to recover my memory of the attack. I had to have surgery to excise the foreign object. The surgeon cut out an eliptical section of my neck all the way down very nearly the spinal column before he could extract the remains of the foreign object which was designed to disintegrate into my flesh. I'm saving it for the CIA Inspector General's investigation.
Imho, the only good CIA agent is a dead one.ahem, not that I'm prejudiced. In point
of fact, they're being deceased is the only way those Nazis can be good. - 2 years ago
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Samthesixth all of your recent questions can be answered with one thing. CIA, all of the hijackers had met with CIA and been trained with CIA. How do you think their passports amazing just landed in the hands of the feds? Al Quaeda is a CIA organized and trained group for years before the attacks. CIA invented Al Quaeda. These were operatives and who knows if any of them actually weren't even on the planes? I have read proof of these claims, however, can't pull them up in files right now. My well informed friends will probably post some links for you on these subjects or a little googling should turn them up.
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As I understand the time line. The OSS became the CIA but only after the U.S. Government openly invited all those nifty German scientists whom Hitler employed to come over to the USA to live with open arms. Appears they were so impressed with the "buzz bomb" (V1) terror weapons used to inflict psi warfare on the Brittish civilians of London, that they wanted them to further refine them into cruise missles.
The CIA is a monster they created, with a mind of its own, controlled by such evil bastards like Cheny that the cowardly brainwashed simply can't believe it. The truth of 9/11 is the kind of painful cognitive dissonance that makes ignoramus disbelievers pathetic deltoid brains into burnt toast. In fact, it's such a wide spread phenomenon, that I blogged a Current.com news artcle on it yesterday. The mind controlled idiots who balk at Conspiracy are exactly why Bush/Cheny/CIA knew they
could snow the public. You can witness their supporters malicious slander substitute for thoughtful, factual refutation here on the Internet as infamously as if they were working on the CIA's disinformation staff. What was it CIA director Colby said in 1973 "We own every TV "journalist" of any significance here in the USA" The truth is that the CIA/Bush/Cheny admired Hitler's efficiency in effecting terror. George Bush sr. was the CIA director during the 1970s while the FBI's puppet operatives Nixon/Ford were installed in the White House. Dub'ya has always been looking to one up his ancestors and make them proud. I think it was Jubal who mentioned that Prescott Bush attempted a Fascist coup to overthrow FDR in the 1930s and introduce his Bush style Naziism in the USA. I have seen the History channel edocumentary on this topic which would make any sensible person's hair stand on end. So while the retarded clowns that pass for literate humans are still lamely maintaining "it can't happen here" Duh. Go back to sleep and accept that you've been hypnotized into being brain dead. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle once said per his alter ego Sherlock Holmes : "Immitatation is the most sincere form of flattery" - 2 years ago
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Kylsport The FACT that 9/11 was an inside job is well documented by some of the posters here. Read back a few and you will find some links and information that should change anyone's mind about this.
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I highly doubt it, but I believe that the first responders medical bills should be assisted by the City.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
The only thing I have trouble believing is that this guy had anything to do with it. The rest of his administration, his father, anyone else, sure, no problem. This guy almost killed himself with a pretzel.
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Thank you, PressCore, for slamming the door closed on the ridiculous notion that nobody can ever be compared to Hitler. If one man in History can be that evil, it's ridiculous to think nobody in the future would compare. George W. and the current administration are following in the exact footprint of the Weimar Republic in Germany. Denial of this is the conspiracy theory, in my humble but well studied opinion.
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corndog if you have no proof in either direction and the best you can do is throw propagandized nicknames around...why do you type?
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samthesixth said: A firefighter would not have the access to the cabal of planners that would be necessary to pull something like this off. The truthers are full of everything but truth.
That's it, you make a statement like that and come up with that conclusion? The firefighters didn't need to have knowledge of the whole plan. Right before the buildings went down they were warned of bombs in the buildings, clear the area. Then, they heard consecutive explosions in each of the buildings before they went down. The police that survived tell the same story. Hundreds of others have made the same claim. One fireman said he had a call from Guiliani's people warning them to get out. Isn't that enough?
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No it's not enough. How do you account for the jihadis in their own words? The Bojinka plot? The rehearsals? They were stooges who were duped into carrying out for the mighty Cheney Neocon Cabal? Come on!
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neonbunny your answer to how they keep 3000 people quiet is they don't. A large portion of that 3000 are screaming on blog posts and on television but nobody is listening. The family members of the dead are yelling and nobody is listening. Famous people, technicians, every other foreign government on the planet and thousands of 9/11 truthers are tea partying but nobody is listening. France's government recently agreed to do a new investigation because they don't believe our story but our media isn't covering it. And one more reason....FEAR! If you had knowledge that somebody who controls the CIA and Blackwater committed such a heinous crime, wouldn't you think twice about coming forward? FEAR is the big reason.
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I love the way conniepae put it. Connie, if only I had your patience and sense of humor in these times we're in. I am trying, though. My mother almost died of Swine Flu recently and I was there to take care of her for a month, night and day. The Swine Flu was made in a lab, fact, just google it before spouting off. That makes it a bio-weapon being used by the WHO and the United States Government. I consider that attempted murder of my mother and I'm a little unhappy about that right now.
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I guess, locutus, you know better than the member of the 9/11 commission. Almost all of them have publicly come out and stated they think the report is a sham. They claim that they were not allowed to do a real investigation and information was blocked, removed and classified to the point that the report is a total lie. The story you support was put out by people who don't support it. Any basic googling could have pointed out to you this fact but instead you like to stay blind, relishing it, holding on to the non-truth as if it was your very own child. Give it up for adoption and find out the truth if you truly have the sense you think you do.
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It's not paranoia to look at an event with clear eyes. It is however the worst kind of conformity that belittles the truth with more and more lies!
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Amazing. Just like the birthers. Just like the religious freaks. You are brainwashed, by who, I don't know. I hope you stay on your medication.
Paranoia will destroy ya. To paraphrase the Kinks.
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@ neonbunny, its not rocket science. People are so brain dead that they cannot wrap their feeble minds around it.
The building was wired to blow in anticipation of the hijackings. They knew they were coming and all they had to do was flick the switch at the right time. Our dear DICK was in charge of all air defenses on the day of 9/11. He had the where with all to orchestrate the whole thing, staging simulations of planes flying into buildings as a decoy for the real thing, to confuse the air traffic controllers. It doesn't take much imagination to figure out how to pull this off.
Then when you factor in the coercion exercised on the media reporters to SHUT THE FUCK UP about inconvenient facts, and you have a fake 9/11 commission run by an insider, the truth is occult and the people are faked out.
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels, Reichsminister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945
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SleepDirt:
"In any Fascist regime, where truth is the first casualty of war, and deception as propaganda is so pervasively widespread, simply uttering the Truth will always be regarded as a Revolutioary act" George Orwell. No surprise that his book 1984 was written in 1943 Nazi occupied France, and has Hitler(or Dub'ya) in mind,
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I think 'fear' is the driving force of denial. If people within our own government were capable of taking down three buildings and blaming 2 planes, they are capable of anything.
If true, it was an act of 'treason'. No one really has the courage to acuse the Bush administration of treason. He quickly took us to war and drew attention away from the twin towers and move us along to war rhetoric. He started a war of choice with a country, which had not killed one American and was not openly threatening us. The 'Shock and Awe' happening live on American television, worked as a tool to stop any discussion about the distruction of the Twin Towers. It also worked to divide the believers and the non-believers. The use of the words "You are either with us, or you are against us" also worked to silence the non-believers.
Treason on such a large scale is too scary for me to openly discuss. I guess I'll just stick to the magic of 9/11, two planes caused three buildings to fall into their own footprints. Yep, those muslims had magic. It wasn't a treasonous act perpetuated by our own 'deciders'.
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Conniepae:
You should watch the History channel's 2 documentaries related to Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed, and another dealing with the modern cultural phenomenon of George Lucas' Star Wars 6 movies as they relate to the Bush era. They made a direct A/B comparison of Adolph Hitler's infamous speech during the 1930s before
the German Parliament, and Dub' ya's 2001 speech before Congress exhorting them to pass the Patriot Act. As astonishing as it may seem, both Hitler and Bush said exactly the same thing: "Whoever isn't with us is against us, and for the terrorists/jews". Hitler's Treason is Bush's Treason. And if he & Cheny are successful in having that Oil pipeline built across Iraq, and Afghanistan they will be Billionaires, and even more difficult to bring to Justice, though in a more sane world they would be tried in the Hague as war criminals. - 2 years ago
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A firefighter would not have the access to the cabal of planners that would be necessary to pull something like this off. The truthers are full of everything but truth.
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Wow! For those that maybe want to see more watch loose change. Something to think about.
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Add a comment (you can add links)Jim Marrs has his real name on his (informed) opinion. I add mine. Have courage and stand up for this truth: IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB...OR WHAT PLANE HIT 47 STORY BUILDING 7 ?????????
WHAT SMALL FIRE EVER BROUGHT DOWN A SKYSCRAPER BEFORE, MUCH LESS THE World Trade Towers. Building 7 contained Federal Court containing Enron Trial documents. Prescott Bush, grandfather, owned bank convicted "Trading with the Enemy act WWII. George Bush the 1st; betrayed US Gov Iran Contra Trading with the Enemy, sold arms to Iran, drugs from El Salvador. George (the Second) Bush PUNKD AMERICA FOR BIG OIL. Trade Towers were smoke screen for destroying Enron Evidence. George W Bush PUNKD AMERICA for big oil "The OILTY" I accuse. - 2 years ago
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It was an inside job and someday the world will know the truth, but that time will come probably 50 years from now when all the key players are dead.
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Ihatethemall Done.. thank you for taking the time to review this. The offer stands for anyone out there. I have committed a certain amount of money to spread the truth and will mail information and films to anyone who asks and is interested in learning the truth or at least wants to know what others are thinking so you can make up your own mind after reviewing the evidence. Wow, that was a run-on sentence, lol. Anyway, buzz me if you want to use my password for the prisonplanet.com site or if you would like copies of any of the films talking about these issues.
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Ragan, you are so right, it is also pretty much proven that JFK was an inside job. The CIA officers involved have even admitted to it but as you say, people refuse to see what's in front of them if it doesn't fall into what they want to believe. Alex Jones' End Game and various other videos available at his site explain the assassination without question.
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Authorities claim they found one of the 19's passports on the street, a very tall tale with minimal credibility, especially in light of the fact that the same liars claim the black boxes didn't survive.
9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI
One of the more puzzling mysteries of 9-11 is what ever happened to the flight recorders of the two planes that hit the World Trade Center towers. Now it appears that they may not be missing at all.
Counterpunch has learned that the FBI has them.
Flight recorders (commonly known as black boxes, though these days they are generally bright orange) are required on all passenger planes. There are always two-a flight data recorder that keeps track of a plane's speed, altitude, course and maneuvers, and a cockpit voice recorder which keeps a continuous record of the last 30 minutes of conversation inside a plane's cockpit. These devices are constructed to be extremely durable, and are installed in a plane's tail section, where they are least likely suffer damaged on impact. They are designed to withstand up to 30 minutes of 1800-degree heat (more than they would have faced in the twin towers crashes), and to survive a crash at full speed into the ground.
All four of the devices were recovered from the two planes that hit the Pentagon and that crashed in rural Pennsylvania. In the case of American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon, the FBI reports that the flight data recorder survived and had recoverable information, but the voice recorder was allegedly too damaged to provide any record. In the case of United Airlines Flight 93, which hit the ground at 500 mph in Pennsylvania, the situation was reversed: the voice recorder survived but the flight data box was allegedly damaged beyond recovery.
But the FBI states, and also reported to the 9-11 Commission, that none of the recording devices from the two planes that hit the World Trade Center were ever recovered.
There has always been some skepticism about this assertion, particularly as two N.Y. City firefighters, Mike Bellone and Nicholas De Masi, claimed in 2004 that they had found three of the four boxes, and that Federal agents took them and told the two men not to mention having found them. (The FBI denies the whole story.) Moreover, these devices are almost always located after crashes, even if not in useable condition (and the cleanup of the World Trade Center was meticulous, with even tiny bone fragments and bits of human tissue being discovered so that almost all the victims were ultimately identified). As Ted Lopatkiewicz, director of public affairs at the National Transportation Safety Agency which has the job of analyzing the boxes' data, says, "It's very unusual not to find a recorder after a crash, although it's also very unusual to have jets flying into buildings."
Now there is stronger evidence that something is amiss than simply the alleged non-recovery of all four of those boxes. A source at the National Transportation Safety Board, the agency that has the task of deciphering the date from the black boxes retrieved from crash sites-including those that are being handled as crimes and fall under the jurisdiction of the FBI-says the boxes were in fact recovered and were analyzed by the NTSB.
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I think MoonLoon is going to have to change his name now that the truth has permeated his screen.
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Yes, the pattern is very clear. Let's not forget, in addition to everything added by SleepDirt you can add just about everyone in most foreign countries to that list. Yes, even Great Britain.
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Its strange how people will not believe the obvious. Everytime an extreme event happens there are those who cry conspiracy theory. I for one believe that the assasination of John F Kennedy was also an inside job as it has happened through out our history. Too many smarter scientists than all of the bankers and the politicians have offered their proof and still there are those common people who will never believe it. Even when there is definite proof they just caint believe that our government would stoop so low. George Bush broke the law so many times and the people know it yet they would never lift a finger to demonstrate against Bush or even try to bring him down. Even the Iranians must love their country and freedoms or they would not beshowing up in masse. But not Americans, they only show up when some noisy musicians entertain them. Its a sad time for Americans. Thousands living below poverty, Over a million out of work and with no income and all because of the Federal Reserve Bank and the entire financial community. There is a very very serious problem in America and no one to fix it. Sad indeed.
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Is anyone still going to question this after the messages left by sleepdirt? Snap out of it, you're in a trance people. Why are we so quick to question the motives of every other government and so quick to defend our own. That's not patriotism that's willful blindness.
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What do you say moonloon? I guessthat is quite a bit more than 'just one nut in New YorK?'
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You go SleepDirt!
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See a pattern emerging yet?
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THOUSANDS OF OTHERS
The roster above is only a sample. There are too many Ph.D. scientists and engineers, architects, military and intelligence officials, politicians, legal scholars and other highly-credible people who question 9/11 -- literally thousands -- to list in one place. Here are a few additional people to consider:
The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission
Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and who handled two actual hijackings (Robin Hordon) says that 9/11 could not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to this interview)
Perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6).
Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11
Former FBI agent (Robert Wright) says "The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."
Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required) (Sibel Edmonds), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job. Some of her allegations have been confirmed in the British press. - 2 years ago
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PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS
Finally, those who attack people who question the government's version of 9/11 as "crazy" may wish to review the list of mental health professionals who have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false:Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD
Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD
Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk
Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward
Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino
Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther
Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral Studies Ralph Metzner
Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor
Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris
Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech
Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser
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FAMILY MEMBERS AND HEROIC FIRST RESPONDERS
A common criticism of those who question 9/11 is that they are being "disrespectful to the victims and their families".However, half of the victim's families believe that 9/11 was an inside job (according to the head of the largest 9/11 family group, Bill Doyle) (and listen to this interview). Many family and friends of victims not only support the search for 9/11 truth, but they demand it (please ignore the partisan tone). See also this interview.
Indeed, it has now become so clear that the 9/11 Commission was a whitewash that the same 9/11 widows who called for the creation of the 9/11 Commission are now demanding a NEW investigation (see also this video).
And dying heroes, soon-to-be victims themselves, the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers and that a real investigation is necessary.
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LEGAL SCHOLARS (cont)
Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government's version of 9/11.Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career (William Veale) said:
"When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government."
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LEGAL SCHOLARS
Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) questions the government's version of 9/11.Former Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation; former Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation and Professor of Public Policy, Ohio State University (Mary Schiavo) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court, with a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University (Dr. Francis Boyle) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former prosecutor in the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the U.S. Justice Department and a key member of Attorney General Bobby Kennedy’s anti-corruption task force; former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois (J. Terrence "Terry" Brunner) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo (Richard Falk) questions the government's version of 9/11., and asks whether the Neocons were behind 9/11.
Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law (Burns H. Weston) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Former president of the National Lawyers Guild (C. Peter Erlinder), who signed a petition calling for a real investigation into 9/11. And see petition.
Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career (Mark Conrad) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice of West Germany (Horst Ehmke) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory (Dr. William G. Weaver) questions the government's version of 9/11.
Famed trial attorney (Gerry Spence) questions the government's version of 9/11.
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A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition (see also this)Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here)
Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California
Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England
Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, AustraliaMills M. Kay Mackey, structural engineer, of Denver, Colorado
David Scott, Structural Engineer, of Scotland
Nathan Lomba, Structural Engineer, of Eureka, California
Edward E. Knesl, civil and structural engineer, of Phoenix, Arizona
David Topete, civil and structural engineer, San Francisco, California
Charles Pegelow, structural engineer, of Houston, Texas (and see this)
Dennis Kollar, structural engineer, of West Bend, Wisconsin
Doyle Winterton, structural engineer (retired)
Michael T. Donly, P.E., structural engineer
William Rice, P.E., structural engineer, former professor of Vermont Technical College
An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use (Richard Gage) disputes the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled demolition (many other architects who question 9/11 are listed here)
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A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university concluded (Dr. Bruce R. Henry) that the Twin Towers "were brought down by planted explosives."A mechanical engineer with 20 years experience as a Fire Protection Engineer for the U.S. Departments of Energy, Defense, and Veterans Affairs, who is a contributing Subject Matter Expert to the U.S. Department of Energy Fire Protection Engineering Functional Area Qualification Standard for Nuclear Facilities, a board member of the Northern California - Nevada Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, currently serving as Fire Protection Engineer for the city of San Jose, California, the 10th largest city in the United States (Edward S. Munyak) believes that the World Trade Center was destroyed by controlled demolition.
The former Chief of the Strategic and Emergency Planning Branch, U.S. Department of Energy, and former Director of the Office of Engineering at the Public Service Commission in Washington, D.C., who is a mechanical engineer (Enver Masud) , does not believe the official story, and believes that there is a prima facie case for controlled demolition of the World Trade Center.
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A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (Dr. David L. Griscom) said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitionA world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement (Dr. Lynn Margulis) said:
"I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken."
The former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire (the National Institute of Standards and Technology), who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering (Dr. James Quintiere), called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."
The principal electrical engineer for the entire World Trade Center complex, who was "very familiar with the structures and [the Twin Towers'] conceptual design parameters" (Richard F. Humenn), stated that "the mass and strength of the structure should have survived the localized damage caused by the planes and burning jet fuel . . . . the fuel and planes alone did not bring the Towers down."
Former Director for Research, Director for Aeronautical Projects, and Flight Research Program Manager for NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, who holds masters degrees in both physics and engineering (Dwain A. Deets) says:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9/11].''
A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects (Dr. Steven E. Jones) stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled demolition
A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities (Dr. Crockett Grabbe) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition
An expert on demolition (Bent Lund) said that the trade centers were brought down with explosives (in Danish)
A Dutch demolition expert (Danny Jowenko) stated that WTC 7 was implodedA safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety Technology Authority (Dr. Heikki Kurttila) stated regarding WTC 7 that "The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."
A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university, with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member (Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn), is calling for a new investigation of 9/11
A Danish professor of chemistry (Dr. Niels Harrit) said, in a mainstream Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don't have to be a woodcutter to grasp this" (translated)
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Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.
A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and see this).
20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).
A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that"the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job .
The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup."
Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11.
The head of all U.S. intelligence, the Director of National Intelligence (Mike McConnel) said "9/11 should have and could have been prevented"
A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored).
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U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....
Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...
Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....
Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."
U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the official account of 9/11 and is calling for a new investigation, says "When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story".
The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility
Additionally, numerous military leaders from allied governments have questioned 9/11, such as:
Canadian Minister of Defense, the top military leader of Canada (Paul Hellyer)
Assistant German Defense Minister (Andreas Von Bulow)
Commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy (Anatoli Kornukov)
Chief of staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov)
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MILITARY LEADERS
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt"Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said:
"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel Davis) stated:
"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.' "
President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11
U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."
Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious
Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism."
Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack on the Pentagon
U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:
"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....
Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
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CONGRESS
According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, a U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year (but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him).Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"
Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11
Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11
Former Republican Senator (Lincoln Chaffee) endorses a new 9/11 investigation
Former U.S. Democratic Congressman (Dan Hamburg) says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
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9/11 Commisioners
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) "obstructed our investigation".The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).
Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".
9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way - conflicts of interest".
The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."
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All of these quotes have to do with the difference between the FBI and the CIA and nothing to do with some conspiracy.
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"I was a witness to 9/11"
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neonbunny you can find the step by step plan of how it was orchestrated and done on infowars.com. The movies on there and prisonplanet.tv are free to view and if you can't watch it that way most is on their youtube channel. Many of Alex Jones' listeners are perfectly willing to make copies of these movies for you. I will even mail one to you for free if you promise to watch it with an open mind. Heck, I'll mail you a copy of everything available on the site if you'd really sit down and review it.
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I will take you up on it. Make ma a copy and send it to me. I have the "obama deception" but I dont have any of the other ones.
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Makes me wonder,the goverment has done shit like this before. Not as bad as the 9-11 but........Nobody knows what evil lurkes in the hearts of men.
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I think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a tad bit worse than 9/11. We did that. Just sayin'.
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LadybugLady:
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men ?", " The Shadow knows ! " (From a 1930s serial radio theatre play, and the 1992 movie staring Alec Baldwin)
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OK. If it was an inside job, then provide me with a plausible walk through of how 9/11 actually happened. Step by step. Because if you can't, you have no argument.
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neonbunny:
Dear Mr. Commissioner neonbunny ;)
As stated earlier, before we get into the brick & mortar aspect of it all can you give us your take on Greg Palast's findings ?
UNCLE SAM'S DILDO
http://current.com/items/91388809_uncle-sams-dildo.htmFor with the lives of our troops being pissed away on a bad 'Wag The Dog' type of a script the most pressing thing would seem to be to know exactly why they are dying for ?
The truth is, we're not in Afghanistan to stop al Qaeda's US attackers, because they weren't "based" there in the first place, and their leaders are not there now.
So, why are we now re-invading Afghanistan?
Furthermore...About the gaping holes in the 'official' conspiracy take ;)
Just for the fun, can someone ask Obama, as Michael Moore did with W, to see the tape shot by one of the numerous cameras around the Pentagon that were confiscated on 9-11 ?
Hey, I love a good 757 crash as much as a good caper & would LOOOOVE the see that pesky 9-11 conspiracy be put to pasture once & for all ;)
Let's see how facts, logic & science fares in America…
Meanwhile... Have a ‘magic bullet’ !
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neonbunny:
OK... not really sure what the hell that had to do with anything I just said.
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neonbunny:
I was merely putting your request for a 9-11 time line into context & asking for an articulated response with, ideally, content issued from your own brain instead of the regurgitation of the intellectual pabulum you've been serving us all fuming & stinking. Now since you seems incapable of either & life being so short ...
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Uhh... sure. All I'm saying is that if it was an inside job then someone should be able to explain how they did it, given all this information we have about it. I'm not saying it wasn't an inside job, I just can't think of how they would have done it without having to keep about 3000 people quiet.
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neonbunny:
Here's my executive resume of this fishy & thorny dossier...
http://whitenoise.webnode.com/news-summary/I myself don't claim to know what exactly happened and that is the problem since everything now revolves around the events of that tragic day... we should seek for facts & your timeline indeed. I find it to be a citizen duty to find out the truth about 9-11 !
Now you're on your own kid ;)
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As I stated above, if it's such a colossal feat to keep a secret in a group of 3,000 people, explain how it was done with a group of 50,000 that worked in secrecy on the Manhattan Project.
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Alright, then how did it happen.
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neonbunny:
Until we align the facts from a new investigation your guess is probably not as good as mine ;)
Here’s a few timelines…
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg
http://www.911timeline.net/
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks
http://www.google.ca/search?q=9-11+timeline&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMI_en-USCA292...:1&tbo=u&ei=ZgH2Sp_MAoni8AaO6enzCQ&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=12&ved=0CCcQ5wIwCwKnock yourself out ;)
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neonbunny:
Until we align the facts from a new investigation your guess is probably not as good as mine ;)
Here’s a few timelines…
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg
http://www.911timeline.net/
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks
http://www.google.ca/search?q=9-11+timeline&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMI_en-USCA292...:1&tbo=u&ei=ZgH2Sp_MAoni8AaO6enzCQ&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=12&ved=0CCcQ5wIwCwKnock yourself out ;)
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Do you think all these people are assholes ?
http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - 2 years ago
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It is bullshit. What a bunch of paranoid conspiracy freaks.
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Your propaganda education programming is complete. Now go back to sleep and buy as much useless crap as your paycheck affords you!
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Amen to that s_peak!
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You are right, bombs would have created explosions sort of like the ones that were seen in the lower floors of the building. However, a substance was painted on in the elevator shafts the creates intensive heat, not explosions. This is proven by samples taken from ground zero.
Bolstering AE911’s case, three scientists working at respected technical laboratories in the U.S. and Europe reported in April that their independent analysis of reputed WTC dust found clear evidence of the highly potent incendiary/explosive “super-thermite,” used by the military.Notably, the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division has acknowledged that AE911’s core evidence deserves — and will get — FBI scrutiny. In a December 2008 letter, Assistant Director Michael J. Heimbach assessed AE911’s presentation as “backed by thorough research and analysis.”
The Basic Case
Specifically, AE911 Truth makes these arguments:
• Crucial elements of the key government study on the step-by-step events that occurred in the collapse of the WTC buildings don’t stand up to analytical scrutiny. The study was undertaken by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the U.S. Department of Commerce agency responsible for building and other safety codes and standards.
• Airplane crash and subsequent fire aren’t sufficient cause to bring down the towers, not even when combined with the presumed dislodgment of fireproofing that protected the core steel beams in the areas where the planes struck. This dislodgment, NIST firmly asserts, made the steel vulnerable to softening by fire and induced the collapse — the first ever of a steel-framed building hit by fire.
• NIST never tested for explosive residues despite indications, including many eyewitness accounts from first-responders and people who escaped the buildings, that explosives and incendiaries were present. Strikingly, eight years after the event, NIST still argues “there is no hard evidence to warrant such testing” and refuses to order fairly inexpensive tests, doing so even in the face of the 2008 independent study that claimed to find traces in reputed WTC debris of the military incendiary thermite, which cuts through steel. This controversial study has been reinforced by the results published in April in the Open Chemical Physics Journal. Many technical professionals call the failure to test a science research “travesty.”
• The collapse of the three buildings resembles two different types of controlled demolitions and not the bending or toppling of a heated building section that might result from a fire.
I can't find anyone, anywhere that can debunk these claims. Can You? Please research and use logic before poo pooing the TRUTH.
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Monkey_Films
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Is Vincent Sammartino related to Bruno Sammartino? I met Bruno in Las Vegas 1974. A big brute of a wrestler!
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Monkey_Films
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MoonLoon you prove my point to you. Again, you've done NO research on the subject. YouTube alone is full of videos with undeniable evidence to the contrary. You have been trained by television, radio, and yes government to immediately use the word conspiracy and write off anything you don't understand or anything that seems, well, too evil or un-American to you. Alex Jones is becoming more and more the only place to actually get real news. The mainstream media is owned by very few, very partisan people and can no longer be trusted. Just because he's on the internet doesn't mean that you can't take some time and effort and check out everything he says. Everything, and I mean everything is backed by documented proof. Infowars.com has videos and documents available that absolutely prove that 9/11 was an inside job. The fireman isn't claiming to have inside knowledge or the conspirators or anything. He knows what happened on the ground that day and that bombs were in the buildings. Do you understand math? A building, much less three buildings have never in history fallen at the rate of free-fall without explosives. Buildings never collapse into their own footprint unless in a controlled demolition yet these three did. Was this day a special galactic day when gravity wasn't working correctly? Are the recordings from that day of officers and firemen saying that bombs were in the buildings and they were going to come down before they did misunderstood? Watch the video from Charlie Sheen to President Obama on YouTube and listen to the points he makes. Logic, man, L O G I C!!!!! Your (Government) version of the story doesn't jive with Science, the facts of the day, or LOGIC. IF YOU TOOK THE RED PILL TRY THE BLUE ONE NEXT TIME....
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Monkey_Films
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MoonLoon
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Monkey_Films:
My logic suggests that implanted bombs would have created an explosion, as commonly seen when Las Vegas hotels are demolished. I was a witness to 9-11 and never saw any explosions, other than the initial aircraft collision and fuel explosion. I am fairly sure that C-4 testing vs. fuel contamination would prove your conclusions. On the other hand, testing for crack, meth, or Lithium would suggest support for your conclusions!
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MoonLoon
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You go PressCore. I come from a similar background of corrupt run-ins with criminals wearing badges. I am glad to hear someone else standing up for his rights and exposing truth like a REAL PATRIOT. Falling in line with whatever crap the government feeds you is not Patriotism. It's something else, something sickening, disgusting and has no place in a true patriot's life. Patriotism is allegiance to the country and it's people, not it's government. A true patriot is always on guard against government, even their own.
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MoonLoon you must be from the Moon and also a Loon to deny 9/11 was an inside job. I seriously doubt you've read or gone over any of the proof of this or you wouldn't make ignorant statements like that. The only way anyone could still believe the official story is if they haven't examined the proof otherwise. Kudos to this fireman, he is the only true hero out of any of the survivors. The word Patriot should have a picture of this man attached to it in the dictionary. If the government tells a lie enough most of the dummies will believe it and thus they can successfully change history if they want. History is only what the majority of people remember it as. The government psy-ops know this and you don't. Time to do some research or your memory will only be as good as they allow it to be. I find it sickening that people are still blaming 'Al-Quaeda' unless you are smart enough to know that Al-Quaeda means CIA, duh, catch up with the TRUTH people or it will leave you behind.
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Monkey_Films
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Monkey_Films:
word.
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MoonLoon
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Monkey_Films:
Gimme a break ,MK! A fireman has some special insight into the strategies of the evil Global cabal? Firemen run up and down stairs, hauling hose and saving lives! They are brave men and from time to time heroes. By no stretch of the imagination are they intimately involved in, nor aware of, any global conspiracies, if such exist. I have a pair of shoes, you apparently have a par a noia!
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MoonLoon
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PressCore
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Monkey_Films:
@ moonloon. How the (expletive deleted) could you know what they could or could not be aware of ??? Making presumptions is an effective way to short circuit the thinking process. Why don't you try to be open minded ?
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Monkey_Films:
I guess moonloon was at ground zero that day eh? No?
Well that fireman was, so put a cork in it moonloon!
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S3th
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aswift1
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blame cheney
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aswift1
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MoonLoon
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I am sure that it was an inside job. Muslim extremists flew the planes,"inside" of the towers and the burning fuel collapsed the girders, thus, pancaking the skyscrapers. What is disgusting is a "fireman", seeking blood money, from the sacrifice of his team! Next he will publish a story blaming space aliens for the attack, which is possible only if space aliens have embraced Islamic principles!
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We don't need anyone to admit it. They did a shitty job at pulling this off with evidence sprinkled all over the place. Only easily manipulated sheeple could believe the government's 'explanations'. The biggest criminals in world history now run our government, how does that make you feel? Oh, and keep your, hoo-rah, die-hard false patriotism to yourself. Patriotism is a tool of tyranny. It's time to admit that our government is no different than any other anymore. Corruption and greed breed more of the same until our only salvation is to wipe it all away and begin again. This time we must not falter at keeping our government in line. We must also banish sovereign immunity, a tool our corrupt officials use to avoid the laws they set up for us. Shameful.
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Monkey_Films
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S3th
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjmqkjwnvQ
The building the US government doesn't want anyone talking about.
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S3th
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S3th:
Sure looked like demolition via orchestrated explosives to me.
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S3th
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S3th:
The US government doesn't control blogs.....However, they do employ a great deal of disinformation trolls shit all over the truth!
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S3th
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxzwT-ICZ2g
How the US government/leaders are refusing to assist first responders with their medical costs, after having lied to them about the AIR BEING SAFE!
Anyone of you soul-less trolls want to RESPOND to that?
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S3th
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S3th:
I don't think they do- Anyone who opposes this truth at this point is a hopeless moron. I feel the same way you do- How can people be so blind?
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S3th
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For all the deluded Current kids who continue to blow rubbish out of their PC's onto the career-ending testimonies from FIREMEN AND POLICE OFFICERS who are trying to help the world understand this basic truth (911 was an inside job)....Go stick your heads in the sand, and leave your uneducated answers to submissions on pot prohibition.
Otherwise you'll continue to look like fools to those who have even the most basic understanding of physics! And like a complete ass to those who put their butts on the line to save New Yorkers that day, so that their city, state, and federal government could lie to, and then abandon them when they started getting sick and dying from the air filled with asbestos.
So, if you really want to do something for them, you can start a fund to help pay their medical bills as their lungs continue to quit functioning, instead of badmouthing their FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what happened that day.
Or at the very least, go back to playing your g@ddamned video games and shut the f@ck up!
You paying attention?
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S3th
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Can I suggest we back up from the brick & mortar for a minute and take it from the start into the political realm ?
Check this text & video from Greg Palast about the role bestowed on the CIA & FBI in this tragedy...
UNCLE SAM'S DILDO
http://current.com/items/91388809_uncle-sams-dildo.htmThis a mystery wrapped into an enigma JFK gestalt type of a thing so let's peel this onion one layer at the time shall we ;)
Most pressing...
The truth is, we're not in Afghanistan to stop al Qaeda's US attackers, because they weren't "based" there in the first place, and their leaders are not there now.
So, why are we now re-invading Afghanistan?
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WhiteNoise:
All you need do is read the malarchy of the ignoramus shitheads who balk at the idea that anyone THEY erected into office could possibly do such a horrid thing...And you'll have all the basis to confirm that, knowing many people are too God damned ignorant to believe it, is exactly why it was an inside job. It's already
an acknowledged fact by everyone in legitimate news that both the FBI and CIA had briefed Bush in advance that the holocost was about to happen. Additionaly to that I have witnessed evidence that would make the ignoramuses balk like barnyard chickens. A crooked FBI agent named Mike (one of 3 Flunkie Bureau Insects Stalking me at Georgio's restaurant in Syracuse New York in 2006 under the color of authority to carry out their Hate Crime) openly admitted to me in front of one of his poser Co-Conspirators: " We LET the bombing of the World Trade Center happen because we wanted to make Congress pass the kind of laws WE wanted them to pass " However indiscrete he was to make an uncoerced admission of guilt to me in public, because it's admissable evidence in any criminal prosecution for Murder 1, I nonetheless eye witnessed it. And I plan to testify to that effect before a Grand Jury and a Congressional investigatory committee. So far, even a Federal Judge has appeared on a U Tube article featured on Current.com that the Patriot Act is UnConstitutional. Considering the heinous & infamous manipulation the Flunkie Bureau used in 1937, only 5 years after they were created,( by the History channel documentary account ) to manipulate Congress to pass "the kind of laws THEY wanted them to pass" useing Dub' ya as their butt monkey to get it done is even more underwhelming. It was in the news out of Canada in early 2004 that Bush & Cheny planned to have an oil pipeline built across Afghanistan, Iraq, and one other country to replace the failing Alaskan oil pipeline. And that that venture would make them both Billionaires. Prosecutors already have the means. opportunity, motive, and fact to proceed with. All that's lacking is some spine. in so far as Bush never finding his phony weapons of mass destruction he falsely claimed Saddahm Husein was stockpiling, there were realy only 2 WMDs: Bush & Cheny.
The millions of Iraqi deaths are the bloodstains Bush/Cheny have on their hands. And the widespread destruction of its infrastructure so that Halliburton could profit by rebuilding them is all to obviously the reason why they were behind 9/11. So that they could blame it on Hussein who threatened Bush Sr.'s life. It was a family fued calculated to scapegoat Iraq. obviously Bush could not blame the Saudi Arabian Bin Ladens. Bush was working for them as a foreign agent. - 2 years ago
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WhiteNoise:
I'm afraid you're on to something ;)
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bullshit. answer for me one question:
if it was an inside job, why would they need to or want to include the New York fire department or police department in the first place? Both departments would have no way to stop this (they don't screen buildings for bombs daily) and both would respond the way they did regardless if they knew of the bombings or not. Their job is to respond to emergencies and they would act accordingly. There would be no reason to involve them. The evidence that 9/11 was planned by the US government using the argument that the NYPD and FDNY had prior knowledge is ridiculous and goes against all logic.
Like good ol' Machiavelli says, in order to have a successful conspiracy involve the least amount of people.
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402Chicago
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402Chicago:
50,000 people were involved in the Manhattan Project, a successful surprise attack on Japan. That's a lot of people.
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402Chicago
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402Chicago:
Manhattan Project...conspiracy...those two words don't seem to go together for me...don't know why you're putting them together. That comment is just confusing honestly...
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402Chicago:
Straw man much?
I did not suggest that the Manhattan project was a conspiracy, only a secret which was successfully maintained. amongst 50,000 people.
Nice deflection though. - 2 years ago
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SleepDirt