Muslims at Fort Hood voice outrage and ask questions

Common sense does not exist? All southern confederate soldiers were not admirable? I guess I started my college education with psychology 102 and have never witnessed a culture that send out sailors on ocean voyages in leaky boats. Is there a site on current regarding the civil war? My immigrant eastern European roots have always been enraptured by that tragic experience and the similarities to present day "culture clashes" which degrade into conflicts that somehow never stop versus conflicts that somehow do.

I hope it doesn't always take total annihilation. The next time you put gasoline in your car, think about a bullet coming right between your eyes. That is terrorism. Who would want to life like that? More common sense.

So when a militant pro-lifer bombs an abortion clinic or guns down a doctor we call them a fringe element not in anyway associated or representative of the larger catholic/christian movement, but when a muslim snaps and goes postal at work then it's ok to stereotype an entire group of over a billion people?

Walk a mile in another mans shoes. Talk to solders home from killing Muslims. Then be ridiculed for being one.

I don't think this whole thing is about religion, I think it's about the fact that the man was clearly not cut out for his job. Why was he allowed to practice psychiatry when he clearly was not balanced himself. He mentioned this to others and it should have been dealt with in a timely manner and maybe no one would have gotten hurt because this could have been prevented!
There should have been rules/regs to catch and stop this before it got to this point.
I am not saying he is not guilty of murder, possibly premeditated pending the investigation.He was the one that killed these people so he should be held accountable. We'll just have to wait & see.

the terrorist movements are quite keen on finding suicide attackers who are, "damaged," or even severely disabled. Israel has chronicled dozens of cases where mentally ill people, drug addicts, and even 12 year old legally blind children were recruited for use in terror attacks. They are especially fond of wayward drug addict girls. I am sure this guy was nuts. But that doesn't mean he wasn't an extremist.
Frankly, when Columbine happenned they tried to blame it on Rock n' Roll. This is his music, the music of Jihad.
He advocated and justified suicide bombing in class. Claiming discrimination just proves that no one Muslim ever listens to the news in Texas because they are too busy on Al Jazeera.
The Whacko in Wako was a Christian and everyone made a big deal about it.
This is just No Good Pali Bullshit at Fort Hood.
Keep your jihad and your whackness to yourself, this is America not Iran.
If this guy was Mormon or Mexican or any other thing, we would bitch about that too.

we should remove our troops from iran and afghanistan and south korea and germany and every where else then we should bring all forces home.We shouldnt feed anyone we shouldnt help at any typhoons or earthquakes.we should allow the world to be burned down around us because we are no better than anyone else. hell look what we did to the indians look what we did when we bought all those people from the africans look what WE DID!

U.S. Military Suicides May Surpass Combat Deaths
MARCH 27, 2009
In the six years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, suicides among active American troops and discharged veterans jumped significantly. In 2006, 102 military personnel committed suicide; in 2007 the toll increased to 115; and the Army reported 138 suicides for 2008 or approximately 20 in 100,000 personnel from the previous year. For 2009, suicides may have surpassed combat deaths.

It's getting harder by the minute for the dimwits to say he just "snapped". But then why let the facts get in the way of growing and waking up.

Fort Hood jihadist is linked to 9/11 jihadists. But never fear, the mainstream media and gormless dhimmi peaceniks will keep looking for a motive!

''Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists," by Philip Sherwell and Alex Spillius for the Telegraph, November 7:

Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen"....

I can think of several news stories where heinous acts were committed...a lady cut off her babies arms, a mother drives her children into a lake and drowns them, a woman smashes her childrens heads in with a rock. Not for Jihad, but for Jesus. Christians. I like to think the best of people, and although I'm certainly not naive, I think the point of being American is to offer any person, any culture, a better opportunity for peace and happiness without all the religious bullshit and accusations of betrayal. Apparently, this guy was harassed repeatedly for his beliefs and culture. And I've seen video of American soldiers being extremely disrespectful to innocent people/children of Iraq. Its alot like the pot calling the kettle black.

acontradiction................I don't think so.......He'd look better dead. Don't you think?

Prijedor you said it yourself. At war fighting them. now in states he's in the army not on front lines fighting them. Once he is shipped..............he is fighting them.........

Snaganalf like he is the only muslim with plans to be deployed in war zoneor the ones that are already there. So he is a Dr who wouldn't have that kind of thought cross his mind.

Muslim Americans perform a critical role in the US military. I'm sure the vast majority feel as the Japanese Americans did in WWII and cringe at what happened.

We aren't at war with Islam but with some radical Islamic groups. The radical elements of any religion worry me. The radical Islamists probably kill more of their own than anyone else does.

I think this was a guy with mental issues that happened to be Muslim. Not to knock the mental heath profession but it's often joked about how they tend to be the ones with the most issues.

In reply to the question of whether or not any of us could name the names of the victims :

Michael Grant Cahill
Maj. Libardo Eduardo Caraveo
Staff Sgt. Justin M. DeCrow
Capt. John Gaffaney
Spc. Frederick Greene
Spc. Jason Dean Hunt
Sgt. Amy Krueger
Pfc. Aaron Thomas Nemelka
Pfc. Michael Pearson
Capt. Russell Seager
Pvt. Francheska Velez
Lt. Col. Juanita Warman
Pfc. Kham Xiong

These are the fallen.

This saddens me because rite when I see a cool off of the 9-11 hatred this guy comes around. This was not a jihadist he just was very sick man under pressure to go to Iraq and kill his fellow Muslim. I would really be surprised if they do find somthing that put in that catagory.

is it ironic to anyone else,
that "they" are always wrong, and "we" are always right?
that murder is OK when it's ordered over a walkie-talkie?
that these people on the base volunteered to aide in murder?
that in fact the job of a soldier is to die as slowly as possible?
that, apparently, one American life is worth 10 Iraqi lives, and that's ok?
that, we can kill who ever we want- FOR MONEY- but start whimpering when they fight back?
that our nation IS an military-industrial-complex, who must start wars in oder to clear its inventory for the new spring line of bullets and tanks?
that the loudest people following situations like this, are those who blame everyone except themselves?
that the US army is loosing more soldiers to suicide than enemy attacks...and CANT FIGURE OUT WHY!?

listen,
WE created this monster, through OUR ignorance and hate.

in the end, WE are to blame, because we hired the politicians, we watch the fear-mongering news casts, we pay for the bullets, we allow haliburten to start wars. the world is shitty because we are shitty.

Life is trying to tell us something, and it will only get louder and louder until we finally listen and take responsibility for the world we've have created.

There is no bigotry here. You'll notice other posts condemn the same types of actions perpetrated for different reasons as terrorism as well.

Let the bigotry towards Arabs and Muslims begin...

Forgot to mention snaganalf. You are 100% on the money. Thank you, it makes me feel good to know that you also are aware of what is really going on in real life.

He's a Muslim Psychiatrist. He would not have been killing Muslims or Islamists. He would have been on a base somewhere counseling soldiers who had just seen their buddies blown to bits.
Or what ever terrible things they encountered there and prescribing psyche meds for them.

You sure don't hear N. Chompski stepping in against these wars. They were pop in Vietnam & Korean wars. Whichever way it is he is still a Muslim asked to kill Muslim. They're not even looking at that. What about all the born in States Japanese who were interned during 2nd world war. They are shocked at this outcome. It seems something could have been done for things not to end up this way.

I am going to have to agree with mreddie. I am a Vietnam Vet, and have had PTSD for 30 some odd years. When a people believe in something so strong as the muslims do, then it is definitely terrisiom This man planned this right to the letter. We have in our state right now terrorist who were arrested 2 weeks ago. They were born and bred here in our great country, but planned on doing us harm. I will never forget what Kruchev of Russia said one time. We will get you from within. What we all must do is become more aware and not become so complacent as we have been. We better hope to hell that they don't start recruting gang members like they tried doing back in 93.

And FYI, I may be somewhat old now but, believe it or not, I was young once and even went to school, college and graduated both. I was a nerd. I was ridiculed, made fun of, picked on etc... I only had one girlfriend the entire time and that lasted all of two months.

So I know what it's like. Not one time did I ever seriously consider a senseless shooting of those types. I did day dream of torturing a few jocks but never killing them. There is no excuse for these types of things.

Luckily I grew out of the nerdieness or it became cool one of the two. I'm happily married, have 4 grown kids and several grand kids.

People seem to be so much more fragile mentally now days.

The shooting in Orlando that I read about left one dead and five wounded. And what ever his reasoning for committing such an act, in my opinion it was terrorism as well. This includes the Columbine shootings and any other such act. It's just not based in religion. It is based in the philosophy of "Misery Loves Company". These people were miserable with themselves and instead of taking action to fix it or try to make it some what better for themselves, they, as our liberal you aren't responsible for your own actions idiots in this country have been teaching for generations, think it is everyone elses' fault and they are not responsible.

If Hasan is a terrorist, then so is the Caucasian man of the shooting in Orlando, Florida yesterday. He killed almost equally the same amount of people. Of course both were for different reasons. Hasan was trying to kill soldiers that were being sent to Iraq because he had been bullied by some ignorant and arrogant pricks and felt they would be killing innocent Muslims of a country that the U.S. unjustifiably invaded, (that last part not being from the truth), and the white man killed persons because he lost his job. Seems someone had more substance for their actions, not that either can be thought as acceptable. Sure Hasan's motives were related to the issue of the battling with Muslim nations, which makes it easier to concieve as terrorism. But is it enough to label it terrorism, execute him and move on to the next story? This story involving Hasan is not much different from the school shootings that involve good students being driven mad by bullies and opening fire on their fellow classmates.

What this man has done is an act of terrorism and treason. They should court martial him, put him before the firing squad and before they kill him, they should leave him un-blindfolded or hooded, bring in a pig and cut it's throat, catch the blood in a bowl and have each of the riflemen dip their bullets in the blood so he can see it then load their weapons and shoot him.

Let him take responsibility for his own actions. That's one of the problems with America. The big media want's to victimize the perpetrator and play down the severity of the perp's actions, ultimately lobbying for his or her pardoning of the crimes they commit. It's gotten to where criminals expect to be able to commit their crimes and not have to suffer the consequences.

As far as his superiors having to take any responsibility, they don't have to do squat. The army has been making officers for a very long time. Yes once in a while one slips through that is unstable, there is no way to be one hundred percent in the screening process no matter who's army it is. However, you haven't heard of them shooting people on base while screaming allahu akbar or God is great or any other religious jargon. With the preparedness this man took it sounds like he was planning this for several days. That's proof positive he didn't just flip out all of a sudden.

Get realistic. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. For every action there is a consequence. He is ultimately responsible for his own actions.

Obviously, Hasan is the real victim here.

We've all heard, ad nauseum, the name of Maj. Nidal Hassan, that poor misunderstood victim of vicarious PTSD and verbal abuse who finally snapped.

Now, can anyone tell me the names of any one of those he murdered or severely wounded, or tell me about the real PTSD the several hundred in their respective families have been propelled into?

I grew up in a German-American town with seemingly every other male an army veteran of Nazi fighting in WWII, basically, every one of them returning to their parents homeland to kill. I also know a survivor of Dachau who refers to Hitler as "The Little Catholic." We also know now how the Japanese Americans in WWII paid a needless price when their patriotism was challenged. Where does all this silly pigeon-holing get you?

Major Nadel is a terrorist/sympathizer in US military clothing who killed unarmed American soldiers in cold blood. He will be fixed up, analyzed, and shot.

This has absolutely nothing to do with patriotic U.S. Muslims who believe in America and will return to the homeland of their ancestry and fight.

Maybe all of us should be asked to "swear" as adults to "preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States." If you don't, you risk serious consequence-like deportation.

We are at war. Is this registering?

“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable,” Mr. Benjamin said. “G.I.’s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it.”

Idiots. Its terrorism. Non of this pc bs. He was a grown man, who made a decision to shoot and kill 13, including an unborn baby. When he starts talking, I bet he tells us that these crimes were committed in the name of a certain religion. This is not a "man made disaster" as our president would call it...this is simply terrorism.

if you notice the media has all kinds of shootings to talk about now. Shootings happen everyday in america. People die every day in America and around the world, but because this person had a different name and religion it will be blasted across the news.