George W. Bush secretly visits Ft. Hood victims

I totally understand that government is corrupt and they are out to steal what rightfully belongs to the people (freedom). Yes both parties -- they are progressives and quasi progressive.
However i don't think bush or rush got their money from being elected.
One was already rich the other is not even a politician.

dalistuff -- there is so much wrong with that post.
The ballots were counted just fine, multiple times.
Gore sent out robo calls telling people their vote was cast wrong which got the senior citizens in an uproar -- this was an attempt to cheat by gore.
Gore than made an unseemly move of getting a state court involved in the election -- a court comprised of mostly democrat judges. Gore only wanted recounts in heavy democrat districts. This was al gore trying to Cheat any way he could.
After all was said and done, the vote tally still came out in favor of g.w
Don't be a sore loser.

Is that so?

Politico 11-10-2008
"Republicans are also questioning the credibility of Minnesota’s Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, the man tasked with overseeing the recount. A background document distributed by national Republicans portrays Ritchie as a far-left, Democratic version of Katherine Harris, the former Republican secretary of state whose actions helped decide the 2000 presidential election. The document accuses Ritchie, who was elected in 2006 with the assistance of a progressive-led group designed to elected Democratic election administrators, of having connections to the controversial voter registration group ACORN and the Communist Party of America."

Wow, so desperate were Republicans to beat Franken in the media (since they couldn't in either an election or a courtroom) that they publicly admitted that it's common knowledge that Katherine Harris stole the election in Florida in 2000.
LOL

sleepdirt -- a state secretary only certifies the count and turns it in.
If this minnesota secretary is corrupt and cheated then that is on his head.
I don't recall kathleen harris doing anything but her assigned duties -- she surely was not receiving funneled moneys from organized criminal enterprises like acorn.
It is kinda funny how suspicious uncounted ballots are always found in the back of someones car at the last minute when a demorat is losing.
Or more people ended up voting for the demorats then were actually registered.
Most of the people in this country don't want it "transformed" into a 3rd world poor marxist country with an elite bunch of progressives telling everyone how many squares of toilet paper to use on their asses.
Progressives think they know whats best for the collective and have the utmost contempt for the idea of personal freedom and responsibility, but they are in for the harsh realization that they have underestimated us, and we will fire them and have them escorted off of the property.....watch and learn.

"a state secretary only certifies the count and turns it in."

The secretary of State *presides over* state elections and this one exhibits the behavior pattern of a mobster.

In her case, *Bush appointe* Katherine Harris:

In addition to her opposition to recounts in predominantly democractic counties, those who accuse Harris of acting in a partisan manner allege that:

* Before the election, a firm hired by Harris in her capacity as Secretary of State to purge convicted felons from the voter rolls erroneously removed 8,000 registered voters who had been convicted only of misdemeanors, thousands of others who had the same names as felons, and a few whose computer records said they had committed crimes in the future. This led to her being nicknamed the Purge Princess.

* Harris certified the election results from 20 of Florida's 67 counties, in accordance with state law. Subsequent machine and hand recounts confirmed a narrow Republican victory.

* Harris was much criticized for her insistence in following legal deadlines for ballot certifications. (Ultimately, court hearings validated proper procedures; subsequent multiple recounts confirmed the outcome.)

But Harris was already well known as a crooked pol.

In 2006, both the (Bushco) Justice and Defense Departments began probing Harris’ relationship with Mitchell Wade, the former head of MZM, Inc., a defense contracting firm. Wade pleaded guilty to a series of criminal bribery offenses on February 24, 2006.
Wade confessed in his plea bargain agreement that on March 23, 2006, he engaged in an illegal "straw contributions" scheme to funnel $32,000 to Harris' campaign. In the scheme, he laundered $32,000 of his own money through his employees, thus evading federal contribution limits. The plea agreement states that: [5]

WADE met with certain MZM employees, and gave them cash or otherwise reimbursed them and, in some cases, their spouses, for contributions to Harris's Campaign. WADE's cash was then used to provide contributions in the form of checks to Representative B's Campaign in the names of the employees and, on some occasions, the employees' spouses. The employees delivered the checks to WADE, who personally handed them to Harris. WADE did not inform Harris or Harris' staff that the contributions were unlawful.[6]

Wade's plea agreement states his reasons for making the contributions:

MZM maintained a facility near Harris' district. Wade thought that Harris had the ability to request appropriations funding that would benefit MZM and that Harris would be an advocate for MZM and its existing facilities.
Retired Lt. General James C. King, the president and CEO of Athena Innovative Solutions, Inc. (the successor company to MZM Inc.), was allegedly involved in the scheme to give illegal campaign contributions to Harris. On March 23, 2004, then-MZM CEO King and possibly his wife made $8,000 in campaign contributions to Harris. This is the same day that Mitchell Wade confessed in his plea agreement that he had laundered campaign contributions to Harris through MZM employees.

This is just the short version. One more...

In 2002 and 2004, Harris received money from Rep. Bob Ney’s (R-Ohio) political action committee, American Liberty PAC ($6,000 total). When Ney agreed to plead guilty to accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in exchange for political favors, she was pressured to return the money, as many legislators had. Harris, however, claimed that she could neither return it nor give it to charity, for it was given to her during her congressional races and had been spent. She added that she would, “have to see what we can do.”

In 2002 and 2004, Harris received money from Rep. Bob Ney’s (R-Ohio) political action committee, American Liberty PAC ($6,000 total). When Ney agreed to plead guilty to accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in exchange for political favors, she was pressured to return the money, as many legislators had. Harris, however, claimed

Wasn't he there today?

What do you expect from liberal trash

Unfortunately, you're pal ibrake4rappers13 has identical ideology to your own. Who's the trash now? Just asking?

Yeah, well his legacy-building project needed a more substantial photo-op other than that $19.00 admission motivational speech tour he just finished.
This is just another Mission Accomplished moment to me. Bush has never committed a selfless act in his life.

Had Obama been at the helm in 2001, there never would have been a 9/11.

Vier, that doesn't hold water. If it did, slippery Ben would have no further need to hide. It's our society as a whole, not the person in charge, he has a problem with. I have no clue where we'd be now, but I seriously doubt we'd have been spared the tragedy. If you recall, George hadn't been POTUS all that long when this came down. Prior to that it was 8 years of Mr. Clinton. He wasn't that hard a man to get along with. But 9-11 was mainly planed when he was in charge.

9-11 would have happened Obama or no. I doubt we'd be in Iraq had Obama been in charge, but where we WOULD be is another question. Pure supposition, and therefore of little value, but another question.

It's a no brainer. They are pleased to see him because they need his support. And guess what...he supports them. Unlike the incumbent fraud and imposter.

Is that why he sent so many of them to their death in a fraudulent invasion, falsely connected to 9/11?
Brainer.

I could spell it out but I can't be bothered as it's futile.

You could spell it out at the risk of being wrong again.

The picture was taken a long time before the shooting dumb A%$. Jesus are liberals always so intelligent?

Why don't you tell that to your pal rapper? He posts counterfeit crap daily.

No shit. It looks like a political rally from here. Highly undignified.

Or Horseshitapalooza.

I'm only going to respond to say that your comment is so immature and inane it dignifies no reponse at all.
Consider yourself lucky to at least be admonished and mocked for the fool that you are because garnering attention is probably still a more positive response than being ignored to the likes of yourself.

No, no, you're completely right. The much more appropriate response would have been to invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks but one which your family had a personal grudge against. Much more reasonable... OMG MUSLIMS ATTACKED US, QUICK KILL SOMETHING WITH DARK SKIN THAT DOESN'T EAT PORK!

Except for the photo-op.

yup

W never attended an Iraq war veterans funeral and never attended a tarmac ceremony. I am a Democratic/progressive, as are my family members, and we all served in the military. I served six years personally. As far as Democrats hating the military, you have you facts backward. Read a book sometime, or enlist if you want to flap your jaws.

monty can't hep hisself. It's what he does, it's all he knows. He's one of Sarah Palin's 'real Americans'.

it is not right to use a non-relevant celebratory photo for such a important story... The photo is too misleading for this sensitive story...it is disgraceful

Tell that to the poster who is a right wingnut who regularly posts fraudulent crap. he thought he was doing Junior a favor. LOL

My profile may state that I am indeed half American and half Kuwaiti. Though it says alot, it is up to you to give it the meanings you would. If you haven't completely turned off any chance of reconsidering your view of me, you should try and figure out who i really am. Since you called me out as a terrorist, i feel i must make my case.

Being from Kuwait does make me half Arab. But I was born in Des Moines, Iowa, though i had not really lived there. My mother being the daughter of a Vietnam Veteran- Air Force pilot, my father the son of a pearl diver. The two met during their time in university in Iowa. In total, I have lived 15 years in Kuwait, and am now going on 8 in the good old state of Florida. Note that I never lived in one place for then 3 years. It was back and forth after the First Gulf War. Clayjj, you were in the army, you should know some of the history. The United States military saved Kuwait from the invasion from Iraq. Well i was fortunate enough, to be sight seeing in Washington D.C. and New York with my family. I was only four at the time, but remember being full of pride that the U.S. was saving Kuwait. I have never stopped loving the United States.

I moved to Orlando, Florida in 1997. My father stayed in Kuwait to keep his job so he could return soon. With out any around to speak Arabic too, and my general lack of interest, i was able to explore the American identity. Funny to think that in 1995 i got held back in Kuwait for not being able to read english in an American private school, and by 99 i was an honor roll student, attending First Baptist Church of Windermere, and taking up skate and wake boarding. Well the family moved back to Kuwait in summer of 2000. By then I had a thick American accent and attitude. My character was not welcomed by many in Kuwait, from my peers, to my teachers, and even doctors in emergency crisis'. I was told since my father was a Muslim, I was one as well, and there was no debate about it, and that i must act like an Arab man. I was full of rebellion at the age of 13, thanks to the American identity i had developed. Back to Orlando it was in the fall of 2001. Well we all know what happenend in the fall of 2001. Then I'm not viewed very American, based off my father's origins and my name. Seems like issues a current prominent figure is going through. Well i never did settle in one place for too long. I was very split on who i was, and where i belonged. At first driven to cling to the Bible, and then having it mandatory to read The Quran. It was after I spent a good time reading both, as well history, and the views and interpretations of everyone, that I came to not want to align myself with any faction of any sort.

I am a citizen of the world. I may have quite an identity crisis to go through, but i am full of love. I was put in a position in life where i had to consider all sides. All im doing now is sharing my insight and perspectives. I seek to calm people, open minds, and offer suggestions that are geared towards progress and working together. I do not feel i am biase towards any side. Just remember that i have to consider the logistics and who my audience is. If I was talking to a majority of Arabs or Muslims, my message would not be any less critical then that of this American/Western audience. I do have my contingencies with various types of people, but im seeking a compromise and settlement. This willingness seems to threaten many Americans' pride. But you should understand my back ground, the very basis for my views, before you label me. I hope you understand that I want to The United States succeed, but not at the loss of human dignity and compassion. Nothing would be better then to see two feuding parties finally accept there differences, change their ways, and begin respecting one another. Yet it takes more then praying for it to happen, that is why I voice my opinion, offer my perspective, among other efforts to peacefully raise interest in the truth

Clayj05

I can't find your post that I copied from my email notification so I assume you subsequently edited it but you said: "if it were up to me we would bomb every inch of your parents birth place and laugh about it later".

You need to hang your head in shame for posting such a comment. This is anew low for you.

What's more, an apology to the poster you directed that to would be appropriate about now and we both know who that person is.

Anyone who defends the coward in Fort Hood who opened up on unarmed US soldiers is not worth listening to.

Bush had the guts to expose radical Islam for what it is.

In no way am i defending Major Nidal Hassan's rampage. But just considering to look into his motives does not mean i side with them. I am simply pointing out that we must get to the root of the problem, not get worked up over a collateral symptom of the situation at hand. That is not to degrade the loss of military men, and my condolences go out to their families.

Bush did have guts to expose radical Islam. But he was a coward at addressing his and this country's prejudices, as well as the extremism he was ken to, which is the neo-conservatives. The world is accepting two extremist groups of ancient war time mentalities, and loads of hate, fear and prejudices, wage war with one another. In the 21st Century, people must regain clarity of our relationships with one another, that no one country, ideology, religion, philosophy, or even secular lifestyle has it right or better then the rest. People must accept each other for their differences, though it couldnt be done with utter ignorance. The internet provides the format of communication, much like were doing right now. I am offering my perspective. You, and everyone else, will measure your level of agreement or difference; then offer a claim or question that will display your level of true human compassion and integrity. Clearly there are those of Islamic faith that have taken the extremist route, but should not bring people to conclude that all Muslims or Arabs are terrorists.

Neither side can completely blow the other completely away. So since were not going anywhere too soon, lets have some dialogue. Some real communication. It was my understanding that was the point of the internet; communication. Or is it just away to degrade women in more ways then anyone could count in a lifetime, though the obvious being pornography, celebrity gossip magazines, and fashion. Well there is also the good old entertainment we took from the Silver Screen, to Television, and now online. In the country that displays so much passion, it is not surprising that people would rather watch reality tv shows then read. One proposal for health care reform was arued against on the stand that it was 1000 pages. This was stood up to by a group of Millionares that are intended to decide on major pieces of legislation that effect this country and its people.

No one needs to defend Major Nidal Hasan's actions, but we should all be mature enough to address the wrongful discrimination he and others face, one based off of ignorance. Even with all the animosity towards Islam, it remains the fast growing religion. There is clash between the ultra righteous 'conservatists' that we must reconcile. All must accept their wrongful doing, accept one another, understand what drives there perceptions and disagreements, consequently coming to a compromise, with decent human compassion and mutual respect.

So 9/11 had nothing to do with their deployment? Just Bush? That's a convenient way to view the situation.

So 9/11 happened. So we go chasing for Al Qaeda....in Iraq.....who just so happens to "conveniently" (as you put it) have weapons of mass destruction. And this is coming from a country who has a whole stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.

Currently, it is because of Obama that our soldiers are deployed and fighting there.

Yes He Can (tm) and he should pull the plug on the region. It's a vast waste of resources and the region will go back to what it's always been when America 'withdraws' anyway, no matter what. tribal chieftains are never going to cede power to a central government after thousands of years of tradition unless it is at gunpoint which cannot be sustained.

Fewer people really buy into the meme today that this region is somehow critical to the very survival of the free world anymore. The US presence in the Middle East is strictly more hegemony as usual and the indigents all know it.
But he won't.
Big energy and there partners in media and communications, CIA and Pentagon owns government and they can destroy anyone they want to, or provide the support needed consolidate their power.

Former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan and current Rector of the University of Dundee. speaks to this at link.

http://current.com/16b924c

(video 2)

The indigents?

indigent
–adjective
1. lacking food, clothing, and other necessities of life because of poverty; needy; poor; impoverished.

2. Archaic.
a. deficient in what is requisite.
b. destitute (usually fol. by of).

–noun
3. a person who is indigent.

Perhaps you meant indigenous?

My bad, feel better?

Yes, like the Katrina flyover two days after he allowed it to drown.

5000 GIs died in vain. Blood for oil. Over a million innocent Iraqis dead by our preemptive racist genocidal wars. Yeah, what a humanitarian. How did he not get the Peace Prize?

@Sleepdirt: "Yes, like the Katrina flyover two days after he allowed it to drown."

Oh, Lordy. WHEN will people stop beating THAT old dead horse? Katrina was an act of nature, and the fact that it was the nightmare it was is because the folks who lived there, plus their governor, plus their mayor were incompetent. FEMA moved slowly, but the catastrophe that was Katrina was NOT because of George Bush. It's too bad that Bush couldn't have just spread out his arms and held back the water and held up the rotten levies that were breached by the biggest hurricane ever. Too bad we didn't have Obama then. I'll bet he could have just spoken the words, and the storm would have calmed.

Um. never. Bush is compiling material for his presidential library, Katrina is one of the most significant portions of his legacy.

Like 9/11, he was amply warned in advance and yet he fucked up again.
What's more, it is still not restored after all these years so I guess it's still current events, yeah?

it is not right to use a non-relevant celebratory photo for such a important story... The photo is too misleading for this sensitive story...it is disgraceful

You thought the photo was inappropriate? What do you think of teabaggers flaunting a poster photo of stacked bodies of murdered Jews in the stupid protest in DC last week?
Is that inappropriate?

Who else is stupid enough to join the military?

JonRaymond,

Thankfully there are non cowards who do join and protect your freedoms every day.

Unlike George 'AWOL' Bush himself or Dick 'Five Deferment' Vader.

it is not right to use a non-relevant celebratory photo for such a important story... The photo is too misleading for this sensitive story...it is disgraceful

Dabne, protect your freedoms against who and what, exactly?

Freedom to live in irrational fear.

lol! good one!

Nicely done!

If he did it it would defiantly be called a photo op.
Watch how FOX spin's this and think what they would say if O went.

Fact check: He has delayed his previously scheduled Asia trip for next week to attend the funerals; as soon as the families set a day the WH has him on standby to attend.
Nice try

Agreed.

Yeah, just cause he's the worse President of all time, was appointed as President, not elected, sent our country into a preemptive racist genocidal war, led our country into a depression, killed democracy, and made the U.S. a third world nation, that doesn't mean you can't put politics aside. Not me. I have a brain.

actually i think he was the most underrated president of all time

That doesn't mean he can't console a human being in a time of tragedy. So what, now former Presidents can't reach out to people? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a former President's actions the reason why 2 reporters for this network are home right now instead of a labor camp? If you can't put your political bend to the side and see that someone is just trying to do their part in making people feel better and showing that they care, then you have logically come to a conclusion that you're going to stick to and to do that, you'd have to have a brian. But you don't have a heart. Me, I'd take the latter any day.

It's just a photo op. He has to upstage Obama's Dover thing.

Yes, you are absolutely right that it was a photo op. Which is exactly why he was shroud enough to exclude any press? And you think Bush is stupid?

it is not right to use a non-relevant celebratory photo for such a important story... The photo is too misleading for this sensitive story...it is disgraceful

The "man" has about as much compassion in him as does a pebble.