Westboro Baptist Church protests outside Obama girls' school

Im not here to argue with you to what degree ANY kids were harrassed. Harrassing kids is wrong PERIOD. Your dislike of Sarah is as obvious as my dislike for obama. But I at least have the class to not bring in obamas kids to any discussion in a negative way.

wtf? 1) My dislike for Palin is nowhere evident. If you're trying to infer that i dislike her by my use of the word "beast," you're wrong. 2) You're talking about class after you've childishly used KARMA as an excuse for a type of "revenge" on those of us who didn't care that Palin's children were harrased. If anyone is bringing in anyone's children into a discussion it's you. "Im not here to argue with you to what degree ANY kids were harrassed," but you are here to pathetically spew shit...

Thats a good answer and a simple one that just might work

It's too bad we have to ignore them, I want to follow them around with signs that say, "God Loves Fags!"

I second that.

Nice shirt idea, B2. :)

while I too would agree with a statement like "God Loves Fags", what's the point of following the protesters with a sign? Do you really feel you must change their opinions? They're a radical church of about 100 members, I'd say they're set in their ways. You'd be giving them just what they want.

I'll drink to that.

Yeah I saw how all you left wing fanatics came to the aid of Palins kids when they were getting picked on.

Karma is a bitch man.

That being said. These people are freaks. God doesnt hate anyone.

Palin is not the President, nor will she ever be.

Look, I think targeting any person's kid(s) is wrong. Do I have a problem with Sarah Palin's hypocrisy? Yes, but I can't recall saying anything about her children. In addition, I'm not a "left wing fanatic." I get flack from people on both sides of the political spectrum and thats because I'm not an absolutist.

Ihatethemall, there is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning there. Sarah Palin's kids were targeted as an after effect of her making them an active part of her campaign. Obama did not make his children part of his campaign and instead tried to keep them separate from the entire process. As a result Obama's kids didn't really get any publicity during the election, good or bad, and Palin's kids got a lot of publicity, more bad than good. If she hadn't thrown them out there, then her kids wouldn't have been part of the political disaster that was her vice presidential campaign.

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Again, as I pointed out a few posts down. Its OK in your mind to pick on someones kids if their parents puit them in the spotlight........That is a foreign concept to me. I would never harass a kid because of what his parents did.
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And so what Palin isnt president. Does that mean her kids are targets. Thats as twisted as saying that its ok to pick on someones kids because of what the parents did.
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I was here for last years election. I never once saw you say anything in defense of picking on palins kids. Yet you get on here and defend obamas kids. Why is that?

and no one was talking to you either.

Is it right that Palin's kids got such public scrutiny? No. But there is a reason for it. The biggest whiner about the scrutiny that Palin's kids went through was Palin herself. She either didn't have the sense to step back and say, "my bad, I'll pull my kids out if you stop," or she just couldn't see how it was her fault. I still feel sorry for her kids, but it is her responsibility to bail them out of a position that she put them in.

Obama did not put his kids in this position. Obama tried to keep his kids out of this position. However, other people decided that his kids are a good target. It is in part his responsibility as a parent to protect his kids from this, but at the same time outside forces should intervene because outside forces started this mess.

You are correct though that it does not matter that Palin didn't become vice president. If she had won I'd expect that her kids would still be the targets because she was/is delusional. As I said, she brought her kids into the mess they are in, she needs to pull them out.

By the way Ihatethemall, I like your new icon, and I'm not joking about it. Did you make it yourself, or did you get it from somewhere, and if you got it could you send me the link? I probably won't use a new icon, but you never know.

@ihatethemall

You're switching the subject from what I didn't say about Sarah Palin's kids, to what I didn't say to those who criticized her kids. But I'll repeat myself for you, I don't support the slandering of anyone's children.

Palin didn't control the Secret Service and the Justice Department. This should be President Obama's 'You're either with me, or your against me' moment. This should not be tollerated! Leave his children alone!

What they possibly think: "Fuck democracy and decency! We only liked it when it worked for us!"

The you're with me or against me mentality can be a very slippery slope. Was it Karl Rove who helped it become a mainstream political strategy? Anyhow, the point is that although it could take many more years than any administration could possibly have, we need to get our politics back to the point where people talk not with blinding unreasonable passion that can't be budged, but calm intellect where people can find a middle ground or compromise.

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No I am not switching from one to another subject No where have I said anything about you saying anything about palins kids. The only thing I mentioned was the lack of defense of palins kids getting dragged into politics. I dont care who brought them in. A person with any class would defend a child. You and many others here didnt. And please dont bullshit me. You are a democrat and I seriously doubt you get shit from the left. According to your profile you have worked for the dnc in 04, 06, 08. You are a paid for tool of the dnc and your blind support of them shines through with every post you make. You recommended this recently:

Please check out these links. There is a difference between discussing hypothetical action and advocating it. The Obama administration's official response:

"The quotations used to suggest that Dr. Holdren supports coercive approaches to limiting population growth were taken from a 1977 college textbook on environmental science and policy, of which he was the third author. The quoted material was from a section of the book that described different possible approaches to limiting population growth and then concluded that the authors' own preference was to employ the noncoercive approaches before the environmental and social impacts of overpopulation led desperate societies to employ coercive ones. Dr. Holdren has never been an advocate of compulsory abortions or other repressive means of population limitation."

Taking information out of context does not help inform anyone.
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Your choice to recommend this shows your blind faith in the WH, obama and the dnc. Anyone who believes that John Holdren, the science czar, doesnt still hold the feelings that his book displayed even though he has never recanted those feelings obviously has blind faith.

This conversation is over, you've devolved it by personally attacking me on multiple levels. I'm not into shouting matches.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings. The truth hurts though.

And I didnt attack YOU. I attacked your posts and your claims in them

How could you possibly claim to be unbiased or anything close to it when your profile clearly states:

I worked for the Democratic Party in 2004, 2006, and of course, 2008.

Thats like rush limbaugh claiming to be unbiased

Lots of fetus porn there.

my room mates gay and all go out and leave the browser open to there site (and various gay conversion camp sites...i enjoy it but i'm almost positive it's lost it's luster for him.

Geeks are good people. Chicken head biters aren't haters. :)

No geek slur intended.

I do love what they do with fetus'. So festive.

'festive'. HA

Or polygamists. Or the Irish Travelers.

here here!

Good point. And since Obama supported the Defense of Marriage act, why are they ragging on his kids?

because he signed the hate crimes bill.

nice one.

Yeah HE signed the hate crimes bill. It takes a truly fucked up individual to say "I hate you so I'm gonna go after YOUR KIDS!"

These people are fucking cowards to go kids...

Ha. Seriously. Irony is so fraking awesome.

Nice to see the races coming together....sigh.

Sad LOL to that.

This is a nice photo, black and white, together.