It's time fruit juice loses its wholesome image, some experts say
source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-juice8-2009nov08
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To many people, it's a health food. To others, it's simply soda in disguise.
That virtuous glass of juice is feeling the squeeze as doctors, scientists and public health authorities step up their efforts to reduce the nation's girth.
It's an awkward issue for the schools that peddle fruit juice in their cafeterias and vending machines. It's uncomfortable for advocates of a junk-food tax who say they can't afford to target juice and alienate its legions of fans. It's confusing for consumers who think they're doing something good when they chug their morning OJ, sip 22-ounce smoothies or pack apple juice in their children's lunches.
The inconvenient truth, many experts say, is that 100% fruit juice poses the same obesity-related health risks as Coke, Pepsi and other widely vilified beverages.
With so much focus on the outsized role that sugary drinks play in the country's collective weight gain -- and the accompanying rise in conditions including diabetes, heart disease and cancer -- it's time juice lost its wholesome image, these experts say.
"It's pretty much the same as sugar water," said Dr. Charles Billington, an appetite researcher at the University of Minnesota. In the modern diet, "there's no need for any juice at all."
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artemis6
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Knudsen does have some great juice . Worth the price , try the apple cider too . A local lab tested juices , and that was one of the only ones without added , nonfruit sugar . If they were all like that , juice would be healthy .
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CiiMONSTR
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Karolein
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CiiMONSTR:
I do buy 100% juice cranberry, but it's not 100% cranberry. They use grape juice in it to sweeten. Better than artificial sweeteners in my book.
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Karolein
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EdJoyProductions
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CiiMONSTR:
RW Knudsen Just Cranberry. 100 % cranberry juice. Not cheap but available in health food stores and some supermarkets with organic sections.
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CiiMONSTR:
Knudsen sells a 100% cranberry juice that is completely unsweetened. Whole Foods and many other "natural foods" stores carry it. Cranberry has less sugar than most juices, but it's very bitter, so I recommend cutting it 50/50 with water.
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star_d
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HowdyDo
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I cut my juice with 1/2 carbonated soda water - better than a Coke and 1/2 the fructose!
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HowdyDo
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ScorpioGee
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HowdyDo:
Ohh...So you add half sparkling water and half juice? Does this work with naked juices? That sounds tasty.
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ScorpioGee
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regjoeschmo
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wow... lets ignore the health benefits that juice can give us via the natural vitamins that help boost our immune system and keep us healthy all-round..... The difference between soda/kool-aid is that they have added sugar and added vitamins that are not processed as fully through our systems as the natural forms...... This is a crock...... Eat organic/natural foods and see how quickly you lose weight.... the problem is not within juices it is the chemicals we ingest in our every day diet.........
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regjoeschmo
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think_free
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Talk to Jack LaLanne.
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think_free
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star_d
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Eating whole fruit is much healthier than drinking fruit juice. The fiber in fruit slows down the absorption of the fructose contained within fruit into the bloodstream. Drinking fruit juice results in fructose entering the bloodstream almost immediately.
Note the fact that there's a direct correlation between the use and consumption of high fructose corn syrup in sodas and food products and the incidence of diabetes.
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desertcat
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Better not try to take away my cranberry juice. Them are fighting words.
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desertcat:
I'm with you on that one. Urinary tract infections are a bitch. Lovely lovely cranberry juice is better than an expensive doctor visit and antibiotics.
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desertcat:
Drink a glass a day and you will never get another one. At least that has been my experience. I have not had a UTI in 20 years. Good luck, Atalanda!
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sue4e3
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fruit drinks (something other than 100% fruit juice) are bad for you .real fruit juice has much more to offer than other drinks like the vitamins found in fruit.I think every one knows fruit juice in a bottle with sugar or high fructose corn syrup is not the same as all natural fruit juice that includes the" experts" in this post they are just assuming that the general population is too stupid to understand
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sue4e3
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thedirtman
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This is a can of worms. The issue gets complicated fast. Juices can be a quick and easy food if not abused, or they can be junk depending on how much is consumed and the quality of the food. Juices can be healthy in specific situations - like the vitamin C and antioxidants. Juices are better but cost more than concentrates because of harvest and shipping costs. It takes more energy to ship juices than concentrates and costs more to the environment when CO2 emissions are considered. People on a budget are going to end up paying for the tax.
Is it too late to stuff all those worms back into the can?
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thedirtman
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thedirtman:
"vitamin C and antioxidants"
Vitamin C is an antioxidant... just uhh... thought I'd point that out... I'm bored... carry on.
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neonbunny
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vladbox
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IDIOTIC RESEARCH! They are talking of concentrate juice, not natural juice.
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vladbox
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extracrazykiwi2008
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Only 100% fruit juice with no sugar added is healthy. ANything you see at the grocery store is liquid sugar and not very healthy.
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tangibleparadox
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sooo if i just eat apples instead of drinking not-from-concentrate apple juice i'll be ok? ;P
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dv627univ
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thanks for f#$%ing society again......
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100 percent Orange juice is okay in moderation like anything you consume in your body. It's the fruit juices that disguise by the producers of these drinks to make it an healthier alternative to soda which is the problem.
For example Sunny Delight (sorry I'm only 25 but I'm showing my age SunnyD lol) in the US is marketed to children as an alternative to soda, sports drinks and an health drink. But it only contains 10 to 20 percent real juice, 80 to 90 percent of the actual drink is water and the rest is added sugar.
At least the people who market Kool Aid knows it's a sugar drink and doesn't hides it.
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seanalyn
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ScorpioGee:
Ohhh Sunny D! Hehe I pissed off one of my friends recently when he sent me to get orange juice and I came back with Sunny D. That stuff tasted good when I was like 5 but now when I try to drink it, its just plain nasty.
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seanalyn
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Nephwrack
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that's definitely debatable. soda does not have vitamins/nutrients/fiber... i'm calling BS.
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Nephwrack:
Diet Coke Plus has vitamins. Sort of.
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artemis6
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Unless you juice it yourself , it is not that healthy . I thought this was known .
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artemis6
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drewanium
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DO NOT fuck with my Juicy Juice. There will be consequences.
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drewanium
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UndoInfluence
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Antioxidants, Vitamins, Polyphenols. Yes these are the things that apparently have no place in the modern diet. I guarantee that the 100% grape juice I drink is much more than sugar water and I've even done the HPLC runs to prove it.
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UndoInfluence
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TheDecemberists
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WATER
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TheDecemberists
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Nettle
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Yeah, I mean, pure juice, not-from concentrate and without any additives is just the same as putting sugar in water. Forget any added natural nutrients you might glean from the fruit or any fiber that might come as pulp. PURE EVIL!
Juice can be very saturated in sugar (seeing as fruit has natural sugar in it) but there's a thing called moderation.
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seanalyn
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Well it depends on what juice youre drinking...some is just as bad if not worse than soda and others are quite healthy. It all depends on how much sugar and other chemicals are added, but there are many juices that are pure fruit juice and water. Do your own research and read the back of the label...it doesnt take more than a few seconds to evaluate if something is good for you or not.
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Karolein
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I know I should just eat a piece of fruit, but 100% juice cannot even compare to soda or beverages sweetened with fructose corn syrup. It's like comparing the fat in nuts to that in twinkies. I don't rely on juice by itself as a beverage or to provide my vitamins for the day (I use Flintstones chewables for that), but I do use juice to flavor mineral water and I think that's healthier than a lot of alternatives.
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Karolein
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Uelthomas
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Loved sugar water as a kid, drank it all the time. Sometimes didn't even bother adding water just ate spoonfuls of sugar. Sugarcubes are nice too.
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Uelthomas:
i love sugar cubes lol. fuck water.
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kivol
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jrooksbe
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This guy is a complete idiot and needs to specify concentrate juice is bad for your diet. To say that juice itself was not invent in mass till the 1900 is moronic. Even if our ancestors, the good old hunter gatherers, did not intentionally make juice, their diet consisted mainly of fruits and berries. It funny how these people want to blame natural food as bad, when hunter gatherer tribe of today eat an average of 5 lbs of meat a meal, tons of honey and fruit, but have no such thing as heart disease, diabetes, or most of the weird disease that we with our civilized world believe are normal. Is it that hard to see that intensive agriculturalist (us) are prone to bad health. Its the pay off of a sedentary life and screwing with your food resources by fattening them up with grain and other artificial goodies, and protecting your veggies and fruit from very natural things like bugs, which don't really cause harm, with chemicals. Its sad that people can not see the obvious. It should be mandatory for everyone to take anthropology, but of course its not , because then people would be exposed to how determinately their style of life is.
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JulianCommongold
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Nonsense...
My OJ IS NOT 100% sugar.
It is 50% Vodka.
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JulianCommongold:
Only 50%? Is 80% too much? I was just using the OJ for a tinge of color. :D Maybe I should go to a meeting.
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ArtBarbour
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In the modern diet, "there's no need for any juice at all."
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ArtBarbour
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KSirys
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Good to know...
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Manatee_man
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but it's so good
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Progresshiv
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Who's paying Dr. Charles Billington, "an appetite researcher at the University of Minnesota."?
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Progresshiv
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Progresshiv:
Good question.
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kivol
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Progresshiv:
I'll do my best to find out. I will be attending soon
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kivol
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Maeveeo
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If it's not one thing it is another !
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Maeveeo:
Or, as my father used to always say, "If its not one thing, its your mother." - gilda radner
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