Community | November 09, 2009 | 49 comments

Claims of sex abuse by women grow

source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8347589.stm

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A huge rise in the number of children calling to report sexual abuse by women has been revealed by Childline.
Over the past five years, the charity says the number of such calls has risen five times faster than youngsters reporting abuse by a man.

"Many would find it shocking that any woman - let alone a mother - can sexually assault a child".

"If you don't think females are capable of committing sex offences, then you are never going to be looking for that."
The Childline report said the issue of female sex offending was not well reflected in policy, practice and guidance on child protection and offender management.
It added: "It is important that regardless of what is currently known about the numbers of female offenders, more is done to understand the nature of sexual offending by women [and to] raise awareness among the public so that they can report it."
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  • J_Jammer
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  

    • The link i posted above is the largest study done on DV......and upon further review current decided to chop the link.......

      http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

      SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 271 scholarly investigations: 211 empirical studies and 60 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.

    • 2 years ago
  • bullpcp
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      bullpcp  

    • jubal that was rather noble of you. I hope they both appreciated your efforts and disassociated themselves from one another.

      regjoeschmo that is really messed up. California doubles male arrests and quadruples female arrests in domestic violence then decides to cancel the mandatory program in favor of a pro, arrest the male, program. Why because we don't want to unfairly prosecute the female "victim". This is what I meant by the need for accurate information to base policies on.

    • 2 years ago
  • bullpcp
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      bullpcp  

    • jubal No problem. I'm honestly not trying to pen the blame on anyone, only emphasizing the need for accurate information to base anti-domestic violence and abuse policies and procedures on. It's hard to act appropriately when there exists so much misinformation.

      I talked to an old retired police officer during a friend's father's bitter divorce and he related a domestic violence call he received. He had a rookie with him and when they responded to the call the rookie automatically sided with the female. She had a black eye. What the senior officer saw was that the husband was bleeding from a dozen deep scratches some of which were on his face and the female had skin under her finger nails. He told the female who called in the report that he knew she had attacked her husband scratched him badly and that he had retaliated by punching her in the face. He also said that if she had done that to him he would have done the same thing. He told them that if they didn't calm down he would take them both in. I think he should have taken her into custody.

      It's interesting to see peoples reaction to female on male violence... or their lack of reaction.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZIQaCaW0I

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • bullpcp:

      Bit of trivia Bullpcp, in South Dakota, when there is a domestic violence accusation, the police are obligated by law to arrest both parties. I found out about this when I had a visit to South Dakota back in 1998. I wasn't the one accused of violence, but I did talk the police into not arresting the two people as long as they promised to go their separate ways.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • bullpcp
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      bullpcp  

    • jubal I agree with your observations but see them as symptoms of the problems of an increasingly misandric society. Just as the differences in the UCR, police reported, and NCVS, survey reported, reported crime statistics can shine some light into the dark or hidden crime in society so to can the differences in reported domestic violence and studies on domestic violence shed light on the extent and demographics of this social problem.

      There are literally hundreds of studies with combined samples sizes in the hundreds of thousands that show domestic violence is either gender nuetral or more likely female perpetrated. If one sided female are the perpetrators 70% of the time, that's more than twice the male rate, or if mutual it is more likely initiated by females.

      There exists a fundamental discrepancy between the public perception and the reality of domestic violence and abuse. This discrepancy is putting males, females, and their children at greater danger and interfering with solving the problem of domestic violence.

      Here is just a small sampling of some of the studies on domestic violence.
      http://current.com/1mb5u4c

    • 2 years ago
  • PajamaDan
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      PajamaDan  

    • Sad, sad, sad. Doesn't it seem like sex abuse claims, themselves, are growing in numbers?!?! It's not just women culprits that are increasing - the article points out that men culprits have also increased, and still account for the majority. It just seems to be humans. We've peaked,... as societies, cultures, families, a species. Civilization and evolution have all but halted, and things are getting bad out there. While it is disheartening that women have entered the realm of abuse exponentially,... females cannot be singled out, nor can stigmas be placed on the gender itself. As proven daily,... ANYONE (man, woman, child, relative) is capable of these atrocities, and horrendous crimes are rising. (ENTER: my cynicism) Sad, sad, sad.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • PajamaDan:

      Gender cannot be singled out, nor can stigmas be placed on the gender itself. As proven daily,... ANYONE (man, woman, child, relative) is capable of these atrocities, and horrendous crimes are rising.

      That is the point of this article....

    • 2 years ago
  • PajamaDan
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      PajamaDan  
    • PajamaDan:

      "'Gender cannot be singled out, nor can stigmas be placed on the gender itself. As proven daily,... ANYONE (man, woman, child, relative) is capable of these atrocities, and horrendous crimes are rising.'

      That is the point of this article...."

      That is the point of my response....

    • 2 years ago
  • MotherForTruth
  • jubal
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      jubal  

    • In my experience in social services, I have also seen men be the abuser much more than the women. Although I do not negate that women can be just as abusive as men.

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  

    • Psychology is not an exact science. I absolutely agree. I am not saying that anything is absolute and that there are no exceptions to the rule, but sometimes "stereotypes" have a strong relation to fact. I do not know what you do for a living, but I am a social worker so I am speaking from 25 years of experience. I am not a social worker for the world, but in my microcosm, men are usually the abusive force in the household. I did not say that I never saw it from women. I just said that I am a little suspicious of the numbers because in my experience it is predominantly the male that is the abuser.

      How is that unprofessional?

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      Unfortunately the world does not work like that. I don't have options, I have cases that are referred to me and need to be investigated. I was an abused child and I have horror stories of my own of being ignored by authorities. That is why I try to be good at what I do now.

      Assuming that you are an adult and your abuse is not currently going on, times have changed and many states have mandatory child abuse reporting in effect for all state and city workers. The heightened awareness makes for a larger volume of reports and requires a more critical eye because of the varied reporting sources.

      The other problem is that the intervention that you receive is only as good as the person providing the service. That is just the reality of the situation. Sometimes you have to scream the loudest to have attention paid.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      I feel you should look into SS Title IV-E (as that determines CPS budgets, and relate it to policy/practice...... There is much much abuse going unheeded/unnoticed/ignored and it has gone through the system. for more info on this you can google "legally kidnapped" for a start.....

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      @regjoe, I hear what you are saying about the legally kindapped thing, there are too many children being needlessly being taken away from their parents by CPS workers because of several really identifiable reasons:

      1. People who smoke cannabis are having their children taken away, and vindictive people can use reporting cannabis use as a way to exact vengeance on someone with children.

      2. When false reports of domestic violence against a man go unchallenged and are allowed to remain in the records, misandrist female visitation observers reporting unfavorable reviews of fathers. Women are believed more than men in CPS cases.

      3. Over zealous CPS workers who are religious and allow their beliefs to influence the way they administer the case, leaning towards severing parental rights in favor of placing the child in a "suitable Christian home" because the parents practice permaculture atheist lifestyles or have anarchist leanings or the parents are in a gay relationship.

      4. The standard of evidence in family court is called "preponderance of evidence" which is a fancy way of saying "guilty until proven innocent". A parent literally has to jump through every single hoop required by case workers, family court judges, and court appointed attoneys of the children. Even though an allegation has never been proven, the allegation must be considered as evidence in a family court decision.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  

    • Psychology is not an exact science..... All factors are circumstantial... This is psych 101...... There are men who can not think about sex longer than some women and vice versa....... To hold onto gender stereotypes in making such conclusions is as unprofessional as one can get.....

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  

    • Reg, I was not referring to teenagers. This story is about adult abusers. Teenage sex drive is not even in the same category as adult sex drive. They are hormonally insane. They do grow out of it in most cases.

      It is absolutely not ludicrous to say that the sex drive of adult men and women are the same. I do not know your sex but woman can go for days without thinking about sex. A man can't go five minutes unless he is sleeping and even then he is usually dreaming about it. That is not my opinion. That is a fact based on psychological data from numerous studies.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      I am a man and I go for hours not thinking about sex, no lie. So does that make me a psychological anomaly?

      On the other hand, my partner fits nicely into that psych profile. He wants to have sex every single day, if not two or three times a day. I am perfectly content cuddling. Of course I am 48 now, my partner is 52. I am HIV positive and he is not, so perhaps the HIV has something to do with my lowered sex drive.

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      Jubal, it could possibly be medication side effects. I work primarily with AIDS/HIV clients and I have heard this complaint frequently. I am sorry that you have live with it. ::Cyber hug::

      Or you are regjoeschmo's fine example of how I am an idiot for my opinion. :)

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      Thanks for the cyber hug, and no you are not an idiot. It is because of the medications that I have a diminished sex drive. But I dare not take any of the ED drugs because they give me a massive headache and muscle spasms; which are not fun. Oh and did I mention the terrible indigestion from the ED drugs? Those are terrible too.

      So I make do with my occasional erections, mostly in the morning.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      That was a joking comment Reg. I was kidding when I wrote that. Read it in context. :) You did refer to me as unprofessional, or at least I think that is what you meant. Don't get defensive, I am mostly playful, not mean spirited.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • bullpcp
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      bullpcp  

    • I believe most crimes are crimes of opportunity. As females gain opportunity, wealth and power, the number of crimes they commit increasingly approaches that of males. While I doubt females will one day be as violent as males I see this as a innate lack of opportunity equality, due primarily to physical differences, not some sign of innate moral superiority as some would claim. Where women have the power, domestic situations being a good example, they commit a crimes at the same or even higher rates as their male counterparts. I remember reading a recent article that female perpetrated violent crime is growing far more quickly than male perpetrated violent crime. If this keeps up we will finally see criminal gender equality... and what a wonderful world that would be.

    • 2 years ago
  • timmmay33
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      timmmay33  

    • In response to regjoeschmo -
      While I went through high school(1988-1992), I heard all the time teenage girls bragging about who they were/are with, and what they did(it was about status). On some levels it was about competing/competition between the teen females. I heard teen boys talk about sex, publicly. But both male and female teens always made sex jokes, innuendo out of something innocent. Heck, when I was a teen, to fit in, I knew at times I was just as guilty of making a sexual innuendo out of something innocent.

      I know for a fact girls are far from innocent as our society portrays girls to be.

    • 2 years ago
  • Kylsport
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      Kylsport  

    • Women were not capable of this prior to the women's liberation movement, but since that movement, some women have become selfish, abandoning family for work, abandoning child rearing for self interests. What was considered crazy 30 years ago can be a consideration today. What a sick world we have become!

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • EdJoyProductions
  • My_America
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      My_America  

    • It is a very disturbing trend in the US. Abuse is abuse no matter of who or where it comes from and the penalties need to just as stiff for women as men.

    • 2 years ago
  • MotherForTruth
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • jubal:

      One of the biggest problems with religious institutions is that they are a magnet for abusers because they are sheltered by the groups. That is why there are more cases of abuse. If you were a pedophile, this is an ideal career move. Especially when you can rest assured that you will be unlawfully protected by your institution.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • jubal
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      jubal  

    • I predict that soon the truth will come out about all the sexual abuse by Nuns of children in Catholic parochial schools. This has been covered up tight. We heard all about the priests in the past 10 years, the time has come for the world to come to terms with the female clergy who have been doing the same things.

      And while we are on that topic, we should also take serious look at Evangelicals and Pentecostals because there is hidden sexual abuse there too.

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  

    • It isn't that I do not believe that it happens, I know for a fact that it does. I just wonder about the numbers or facts behind the numbers. A woman's sex drive is not the same as a man's. There is a biological reason why more men commit acts of sexual abuse than women do.

      I also know for a fact that some children do lie about parental abuse sometimes. More children are now aware that they can punish a parent by making up a story without understanding the consequences of that lie.

      If the numbers are legitimate this is a disturbing trend.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      This idea that a woman's sex drive is not the same as a mans is ludicrous at best...... Sure the genders hit their peaks at different times, but can you blame all teenage pregnancies on the boys alone!? Come on...... it takes two to tango....... The reports of females sexually abusing children are not as widespread mostly because it is either glamorized or the child is too ashamed to admit it because of attitudes like yours.......

    • 2 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      What you say is true, EdJoy. Saying there are differences in sex drives between men and women is not at all "ludicrous", it's factual. Yes, teens do have sex, but normally girls are not obsessed with sex like guys are. I know women do commit acts of sexual abuse, but I also question the numbers.

      I also know first hand how kids can cause huge problems for their families if they get pisses off and tell the wrong thing to the wrong person. And they DO do that. That very thing happened to a friend and it ruined his life, all because his step daughter didn't like him. Even after she realized the harm her lies had caused and tried to recant her claims it didn't do any good. It was a nightmare for them.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      If you fail to realize that teenage girls are as sexual as teenage boys, you have either forgotten how it is to be a teenager or have blinders on...... I remember full well how the girls were in High school, and it was no different.... They did not sit and dream of who they were going to marry, but talked about who it was they were going to "hook up" with this weekend... and it was normally someone different each time.......this idea that young girls are sexually innocent is plain ignorant to the reality of life........

      False accusations are a whole different story however.......

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      Sorry for your friend, Helenahandbasket (I love that name). I have seen false accusations destroy people's lives too. I am seeing it more and more but authorities are slow to admit that the kid might be lying and automatically assume guilt.

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
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      Progresshiv  

    • Apparently, recent efforts to empower children to report inappropriate adult behavior are bearing this bitter fruit. It does not surprise me that women are capable of sexual abuse, but it has to be very difficult for a child to report his or her own mother. What a terrible task that would be for anyone.

    • 2 years ago
  • lionessgrrl
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  

    • In the US the recorded reports for unwanted sexual advances from teachers, women make up 40% of them....... It is a farce to think that women are less capable of such perversion........

    • 2 years ago
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