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Fort Hood suspect to face 13 murder charges

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Military prosecutors say they will charge Fort Hood shooting suspect Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan with 13 counts of premeditated murder, a government official told NBC News.

An announcement will be made later Thursday during a press conference at Fort Hood, officials said.

The shootings took place at Fort Hood's crowded Soldiers Readiness Processing Center, where troops get medical checkups before deploying abroad.

Authorities decided to charge Hasan in a military court, officials said. Additional charges may be filed; however, the murder counts are the most serious of offenses, officials told NBC News.

Military officials can consider the death penalty, NBC News reported.

Investigators were trying to piece together how and why Hasan allegedly gunned down his comrades in one of the worst mass shootings ever on an American military base. Though his motive wasn't known, some who knew Hasan said he may have been struggling with a pending deployment to Afghanistan and faced pressure in his work with distressed soldiers.

Meanwhile, new details have begun to emerge painting Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, as a troubled man who had no place in the military.

Some who knew Hasan as a student said they saw clear warning signs before the shooting spree that left 13 dead and 29 others wounded

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33886322/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/
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37 comments // Fort Hood suspect to face 13 murder charges

  • LowShred
  • vladbox
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      vladbox  
    • So let me get this idiocy straight: They are going to save his paraplegic life so he can be executed? Only in the US.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • nobamayomama
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      nobamayomama  
    • The count, in this case, should be 14 since one of the soldiers was pregnant. Scott Petersen was charged with a double murder, s/b the same in this case and laws all over the books in most states have laws against killing the unborn - believe it or not, a bit of research will show it. It's called fetal homicide.

      Amazing how these charges against this terrorist ave been compared to war efforts abroad. Neither compares. Unfortunately, in our world, wars will always be (and have always been) because as many want to take freedom away as want to have it.

    • 2 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • It would be over-kill I guess; but how come nothing is being said/done about the wounded? Assault with intent to kill ring any bells?

      On the other hand, we can only execute him once.

    • 2 years ago
  • Cynic2
  • libertyforall
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      libertyforall  
    • Should be 14 murder charges. One of the women was pregnant. Or for all the other lefties that read current, was it just another form of abortion?

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Tao_D
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      Tao_D  
    • libertyforall:

      I agree, if he killed an unborn child in by committing a violent act in cold blood against the mother he should be charged with the murder of that child. This is really not an argument about the morality of abortion.
      Indeed, why is he not being charged with 14 murders?

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyforall
  • becktionary83
  • JonRaymond
  • cabinettags
  • mrEddie
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      mrEddie [removed]  
    • http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/10/coverage-fort-hood-shooting-press-dod...

      ''Investigators would have been "crucified" over First Amendment rights if they had launched a full-scale probe into e-mails Fort Hood massacre suspect Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly sent to a radical imam, a government investigator told Fox News.

      The claim comes as the squabble grows among officials in different branches of law enforcement and the military over who knew what, and when, about Hasan's leanings toward faith-inspired violence, and amid charges that "political correctness" prevented officials from taking pre-emptive action.

      Multiple investigators familiar with the FBI's review of the Fort Hood case told Fox News that they simply did not have enough evidence to launch an investigation. Though officials discovered Hasan's e-mails to the imam, one government counterterrorism investigator said the messages suggested he was seeking "spiritual and religious guidance."

      "(Hasan) appeared to be at a moral impasse, a moral dilemma who was reaching out for advice," the investigator said. "Had we launched an investigation of Hasan we'd have been crucified."

      Further proof how deeply we have lost our way, our sense of life. Plotting jihad, supporting jihad is not freedom of speech. It is sedition.

      Watch the unholy leftist/Islamic alliance try to use this free speech issue to shut up the truth tellers and those on the right. They invoke freedom of speech to kill freedom of speech. it's an old trick of the left, the communists, the statists, all totalitarian ideologies. I am sure Rahm Emanuel won't let this "crisis go to waste" either.

      They will also blame "guns". Once again in an attempt to disarm the population. An unarmed population is like sheep to slaughter. In this war, every free man and woman needs a weapon.

      Jihad is treason. Period.

    • 2 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
  • JonRaymond
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      Oh, cry me a river. You've shown who you are on this site. You're an apologist for Islam, one who also runs down the US while enjoying your freedom, freedom that is available to us thanks to those who have the balls to stand up and make certain that folks like you can have an opinion. If you hate our country so much you're free to leave.

      We live in the most desirable country on earth. People the world over scramble to come here, for our lifestyle, opportunities and freedoms. The entire world expects us to police them, to help them out of every jam they find themselves in, and mostly we do. We send billions of our dollars in humanitarian aid to countries all over the world. We build roads and schools and hospitals, sewage treatment plants and water purification plants. We send food and medicine, doctors and nurses donate their time, as well as teachers. There's no limit to what we do for the world.

      And then there are people like you who have nothing to offer except to run our country down and criticize all that we do. Our military is not perfect, it's made up of brave young men and women who want to make a difference. They're capable of making mistakes. But for every mistake they make they do a thousand other things well. How DARE you call them baby killers? How DARE you make excuses for and take up for people who would destroy YOU, and the rest of us, in the blink of an eye if they could? And guess what, if they did? You'd be standing WAAAY in the back behind our military, praying and begging them to save your sorry ass. You'd be whining a different tune, then.

    • 2 years ago
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • Wouldn't it be funny if he was like "HEY! I only premeditated 12 of those!!!" and got all pissy about the one extra count of murder. hahah

    • 2 years ago
  • money214
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • EmperorThan:

      It's questionable. Probably depends on the mental evaluation. A nut case goes ballistic and sprays a crowd full of bullets. Could just as easily be an impulse as premeditated but I don't know the legal definitions, especially in the UCMJ.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • You mean we aren't going to deploy 40,000 more troops to Afghanistan and kill a few hundred more babies? We're actually going to just prosecute one man?

    • 2 years ago
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • JonRaymond:

      Well modern soldiers are on average okay guys, some are dicks but that's only like 35%... lol. But "you mean Bush isn't going to be charged for killing 4,500 soldiers for absolutely nothing" I would say. =P

    • 2 years ago
  • JohnA
  • JonRaymond
  • 402Chicago
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      402Chicago  
    • JonRaymond:

      Do not attack the individual soldiers like this. Instead of letting your anti-war sentiments lead you to blind, ignorant attacks on soldiers think a little deeper please. Most US soldiers are good people, most join to serve their country for the honor they get, some join to serve their country out of love for it, and some join merely to make a living or get an education. Granted there are FEW that are evil but there are evil people in all walks of life and if you let them guide your feelings toward their type you will always be mis-led. Hating and protesting the war effort is an intelligent and respectful choice, hating and protesting the individual soldiers who merely do a job as you do is disgusting.

      Instead of being ignorant and seeing the patch of "US Army" on their chest look to the left and see the patch that says their last name. A soldier in America is also a citizen, they are brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, etc. They're humans that have the same feelings as you do and the same guilts and remorses.

      Protest the government, the war effort, the tactics. Do not protest the men and women in uniform.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Tao_D
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      Tao_D  
    • JonRaymond:

      I am glad you clarified that statement John. Your original post did seem to call our soldiers baby killers and the people who responded with anger did so with justification. That part of our history is shameful and the pain is still obvious.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • JonRaymond:

      There's a fine line between calling our troops baby killers and the fact that the military has them kill babies as a matter of policy. This conflict is the cause of PTSD that wreaks havoc on their conscious and leads to the many suicides in the military and among veterans.

      So I am saying the military answer to any terrorist threat is to haul off and kill babies, women and innocent men. But I never said it was the troops' fault. They are following orders and have testified to the internal conflict they often have over these things.

      http://current.com/items/90442897_veteran-calls-out-petraeus-destroys-medal-crow...

    • 2 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • JonRaymond:

      You know Jon, I've given a bit of thought prior to making this reply. My initial reaction was to say what I think. But I'll not provide you any ammunition. You claim veteran status, and I'll not challenge that either. You're surely not the first to discover your enlistment landed you in a war zone to witness atrocities so personally offensive as to turn you pacifist. That part I can at least understand. I'm a viet vet. One of your baby killers.

      What I can't understand is why you'd lie to make it seem worse than it is. What lies?
      "and the fact that the military has them kill babies as a matter of policy." "So I am saying the military answer to any terrorist threat is to haul off and kill babies, women and innocent men."

      Who are you trying to impress Jon? The young gullible folks here? Some of these kids would swallow that hook, line & sinker. You think our military should just haul it in Jon? How's your arabic?

      It's a well know fact in the military that in spite of the best training in the world, there's no predicting how a person will react once it's for real. Death doesn't come in a tidy package and innocents suffer along with everyone else. War is not a neat thing. Some simply cannot proceed. If your experiences have decided you again war, then why don't you say that? Trying to paint our military command as the demons earns you Maggie's drawers. Or is your intent political?

      You're not the first Jon, and you impress me not at all. If there's right in your opinion, you don't have to lie and exaggerate to make it known. Give the folks here credit for the intelligence to judge for themselves. TRUTH. Try it separate it from fiction. It reads a lot better that way.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • JonRaymond:

      Did you not watch the video I posted earlier? An Army Iraq War vet describes military policy to leave a child for dead on the road, as a matter of policy. Not official public in-the-news-media policy, but policy nonetheless. It's obvious this is the case. Want some more videos for proof. I got 'em. It's not me saying this stuff. It's the Army and Marine guys who see it and can't deal with keeping it in.

      Watch this one.

      Go to my website (http://stopwar.lafilmonline.com) where I have gathered more of this atrocious information in video and pictures of war (graphic images - caution advised). Not mine. But those I've found online and on the IVAW (Iraq Veterasn Against the War) website. Those videos are no longer on that site, last I checked. But the memories haven't gone from the minds of the vets who made, and still make those statements.

      I flew Air Force transports into the Gulf War, at quite a distance from the combat zone, though I experience a few scud attacks. So I'm not suffering except by regret I contributed at all, and in sympathy with the vets, their families, and their victims' families who suffer much more than I. Quite a long list of people.

      What lies indeed. I never experienced combat. I'm lucky to be an observer with some information, and I admit a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. That's why I go to the vets who tell their stories and I refer you to them. If I am lying then they must be as well.

      The real question though is your credibility "cabinettags".

    • 2 years ago
  • mrEddie
  • JonRaymond
  • Kamilo
  • sgwhites
  • isnamthere
  • zHellas
  • cabinettags
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