Current Regresses to Status Quo Programming
source: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-current12-2009nov12
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This is typical management behavior from what I've seen in business. Mangers seem to continually have to shake things up to justify their existence. The management mantra: If it ain't broke, fix it anyway. It looks good on the performance review.
I also heard that Laura and Euna are being let go.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-current12-2009nov12,0,6721489.story
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JonRaymond
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Sick of Current's new format before it's even got well under way? Me too.
Join me at Under Current... an experiment: http://currentb.ning.com/
The new current for and by the people, not the corporations. All are welcome. Join and set up your profile. Create groups just like on current. Then add your current posts as forum topics or blogs. Copy and paste your post here or add new ones. But just yours. You posted them. You own them. The people have the power if they have the balls to use it.Help figure out what to do next. I'll share the admin with a few of the movers here.
Hey, it's just a public option to keep Current honest.
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JonRaymond
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samthesixth
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JonRaymond:
Thank you Jon!
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samthesixth
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JonRaymond
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And another thing... What happen to the great "Current Developing Stories" experiment? That was pretty cool. But it seems to have vaporized along with the rest of the staff.
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JonRaymond
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J_Jammer [removed]
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I have voted up many things that people would think I'd vote down. As I said already...I'm very fair.
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urbanwolf
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It's becoming FOX news. I knew it couldn't last.
I've been watching Current for over a year now, and I have come to love the programming. I see the changes happening, and yet no one is hearing our calls.
Why isn't this a top ranked story? There are over 50 comments! Many of them are completely logical concerns, yet NONE of us has yet to be addressed. I am frankly appalled by Currents new structure.
If Larua and Euna are let go, Im afraid many loyal viewers will also be let go.
Please Current, dont become another FOX!
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urbanwolf
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KSirys
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urbanwolf:
I have a post with 110+ comments and little by little is getting knocked down... i wonder by who????
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KSirys
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urbanwolf
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urbanwolf:
Your point is valid. We're upto 62+ comments and it's yet to be noticed. Yet Glen Beck's extremist post is supposedly more important than the station we get our news from? I see the station more and more every day attacking the conservative right.
It's not right, why can't we just remove ourselves from all the political banter and blaze our own trail?
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urbanwolf
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JanforGore
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urbanwolf:
I too wish this site weren't so political in nature. It appears members of Daily Kos and other sites have decided to turn Current into another site like them. If I wanted that I could go to those sites. One reason I don't go there and prefer Current is because it wasn't supposed to be politically biased in nature.
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JanforGore
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Nettle
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urbanwolf:
Well, it has been noticed. As of 5am last night (this morning) it was the number one story on news and that's how it got the attention it got.
Also, this station/site was founded by Al Gore, a big name, liberal politician. How would it not attract people with a left-leaning political interest?
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Nettle
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urbanwolf:
I voted it down because it was a year old and it just promotes hate for cops. It's unnecessary because of that. Had it focused only on the incident at hand instead of a chaotic rampage that fueled the rage of those that hate cops....it would have got my vote up.
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flyingkick
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urbanwolf:
It used to be that the top voted stories always appeared on TV unless there was some copy right infringement. Then they changed the system and now the staff pick the stories that appear on TV. It seems like they pick them based on a mix of the latest news sensation, what's entertaining, and sometimes the Environment.
I miss the old system > - 2 years ago
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flyingkick
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Nettle
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Wait, does everyone here know that "picked for TV" is coming back? They've mentioned that it's coming back, but it's coming along with the next site redesign launch, so it won't be for a while.
Am I the only one that pays attention...
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Nettle
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simall08
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the reason why i watch current is because of the no commercials...there's enough advertisemnt...sorry current but this is a bad move on your part...its not abbout the money but to get the truth out their...the more advertisers the more they would have to say about what goees on the air...this is some bullshit!
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KSirys
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Did anyone see today's main page? same old stuff from yesterday with some new stuff that don't have the support that this article has or the article I have with 90+ comments. AGAIN, current is using it's "guidelines" to control the real news and put their "favorites" up on the main page...
Good Job Current!
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KSirys
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KSirys:
Its incredible... None of the "Top Ranked" come to even 30 comments and this one with over 50 doesn't even appear in the Top Ranked. What exactly is the criteria for being in the top of the page?
I thought it had to do with popularity! Yet this article is clearly being prevented from reaching the desired people. They won't tke it down, they'll just mke it so that no one finds out it was even posted.
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UrbanGypsy
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KSirys
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KSirys:
Look at my link and tell me why a Post with over 110+ comments is not even near the top... lol.. current still playing favorites..
http://current.com/items/91463702_16-yr-old-boy-tasered-by-cops-19-times.htm
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KSirys
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KSirys:
1 year old story. It's good to be where it is in the most popular......or it was.
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KSirys
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KSirys:
JJ, I commented first, you commented second..
YOU NEED TO GET OVER IT!
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KSirys
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Nettle
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KSirys:
There's also voting down. If people don't like the story, they vote it down and it falls off of the main page.
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Nettle
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KSirys:
I appreciate your ability to count.
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KSirys:
The last person that said that got in really big trouble. I'm not talking about said to me--you'd be the first.
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libraryowl
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I'm new here, and I'm sad to hear that Current's current model is insufficent. I have a lot of faith in user-generated content, and I hope for a future in which amateurs and new artists can reach a global audience. Perhaps this simply isn't the moment. Please don't give up on us, Current!
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libraryowl
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Sounds like republicans/conservatives talking about Obama's change.
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JonRaymond
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J_Jammer:
That's the thing about liberals. They actually think for themselves, discuss, and disagree, instead of blindly following the leader into the fire we now know as the great depressed third world America.
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JonRaymond
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UrbanGypsy
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Nocturnus:
"Such a shame
This eagerness to change
Such a shame"Its a shame alright!
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UrbanGypsy
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UrbanGypsy
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All I can say is... Paradise Lost. The final blow will come when they reduce the website to commenting on the stories and videos that they put up. I won't be surprised if one day they take away our ability to post stories.
Current Tonight is gone. What reason is there for us to post stories?
It was a pleasure and all of you were such pals, but get ready for the end. It might come sooner rather than later...
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UrbanGypsy
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I knew it was the beginning of the end when I saw McDOnalds being advertised on the front page...... Way to sell out current!!! We need more user generated content, not less!!!!
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UrbanGypsy
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I remember when I first came on to Current. You could really see how the channel and website worked together. Its not the case anymore... One is mostly seperate from the other. I frequent the site much more than I watch the channel ever since they've been moving away from viewer-created content.
I remember back when the News Bot used to put your comments on TV. Now its near impossible to get on TV in an way...
Marketers destroy everything. Another once great site that has been ruined has been Youtube. After Google bought them out, they added Ads all over the pages and now sometimes there are even Ads before and during videos... Yuck.. I joined Youtube to watch vids, not ads.
Except with Current, its Current TV that has been ruined, not Current dot com... Although even tht is in question sometimes. The management here has the uncanny ability to shove changes down everyone's throats every once in a while...
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UrbanGypsy
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UrbanGypsy:
Youtube isn't ruined. It's still free and the ads are not annoying. They just pop up and then go away. Plus people can use music in their videos as long as there is a link to buy the song. I think that it was the compromise in the viewer's favor more than in the advertiser's favor....cause it could have been far worse.
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UrbanGypsy
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UrbanGypsy:
That's true... But I still haven't gotten over how they screwed everyone by switching to BETA channels when everyone was against it. I hated the change, it made customization much more difficult.
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UrbanGypsy
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flyingkick
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6 minute pods are one of the coolest thing about Current TV.
Whatever happened to the 'picked for TV' feature?
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flyingkick
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flyingkick:
I hate how they took that away. I remember how excited I was when I came on TV for those few seconds. I feel sorry for the new members who will never be able to experience it...
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UrbanGypsy
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flyingkick:
I miss the computer's voice....
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flyingkick:
exactly!
The possibility of getting picked for TV was a huge incentive to post meaningful comments on as many stories as I could as often as possible. - 2 years ago
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cynker
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maybe there is too much dangerous information on here - such as human rights abuses and news stories pointing to authoritarian governments .
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The one reason I am so infatuated with the channel, the website, and the overall community is the unique way in which all three of them are linked. Current is unlike any other network, and that is what initially attracted me and eventually got me hooked. I don't know why they would just up and devolve into another same old channel when they are really pushing what it means to be on television.
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Shutchin:
Best reply on this page. Best way to state an opinion and the best way to make a valid and strong point.
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cynker
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have you noticed the amount of celebrity crap and mainstream influence recently - im thinking of closing my account
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cynker
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cynker:
Thank the new CEO that came from MTV... remember that MTV was a music channel and now is TMZ on steroids...
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cynker:
I'm thinking giving up is the best way to win.
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UrbanGypsy
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cynker:
The new CEO is from MTV? Oh Dear God.. thats all you had to say.
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UrbanGypsy
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cynker:
It's the sad truth....and he's right if MTV is any indication then there will be bigger problems.
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The world is fluid. If current stops providing the products we demand, we will find a new supply. That said I love Vanguard, InfoMania, SuperNews, Embedded, Max & Jason's show and the specials too. The inclusion of 30 min. programs doesn't have to mean a removal of VCC but rather they can just be organized better(like Web Soup or something, just without the fart jokes).
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CalPerr
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vesher
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the beginning of the end?
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vesher
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Allorno1
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So where are we all going to move to? Seriously is there another site out there like this one?
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Allorno1:
I don't think moving is needed, I think, just my two senses... that current needs to have some type of Webinar with the most active folks on the site (not the old or popular people) and hear them out. See what people want and what they would like to see change, moved or added.
I like current and everything that it offers, but the favoritism that goes on, is just annoying and not worth bothering showing up at times.
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Allorno1:
Worse website ever if they listened to some people on this site that are "regulars".
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Allorno1:
and you dont hate....
riiggghhhttt....
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JulianCommongold
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samthesixth
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"the move is meant to attract traditional advertisers who shy away from user generated content."
There it is. We need to make more money. How much money does Al Gore need?
Does anyone know of an alternative site that allows for VCC the way current used to?
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samthesixth
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J_Jammer [removed]
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All I see is complaining and not one single good point to go on.
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JanforGore
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I am disappointed as well and will be telling them so. I have much time invested here and when I first joined the first day I too was excited at the prospect of a whole new way of joining TV to the Internet with a new way of dialogue with viewer created content. So I will continue to push for that and participate regardless of what some MTV reject wants.
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JR you are gunning for Current today. Haha
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Nettle
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Would you guys just wait and see what they actually are going to offer? Does anyone here know what shows they are actually doing?
All the information you've been given is that they're outsourcing (getting other companies involved), focusing on investigative journalism, and changing the schedule to the 30/60 minute plan (which I think works better).
Wait until you see the product of the changes before you decide to blow up.
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Nettle
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Nettle:
I sort of understand what you're saying here Nettle. However, it's important I think to talk about it now even if a deal hasn't been made on how Current will run in the future. It's good to get our voices out there to say, "Hey Current, don't go changing things to be like other channels. The way you started out was what brought folks in. A change in programming will make folks go."
Having been a fan since Current's inception and a user for about 3 years, I haven't been on as much and it's because of some of the ridiculous changes. Changes that have come so that Current can fit in.
But I think your comment does bring up something important which is that it is not enough to post a story about what's happening to Current but to email and ask questions directly. I think they've always been good about contact. feedback@current.com. Easy as that!
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Nettle:
I was a regular before the change to Current TV. Everyday I would tune in just to watch Terry Glecoff. I'll stick around for a few segments, but if its the slightest thing like MTV I'm saying goodbye. I haven't watched MTV in 25 years.
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Nettle:
They're doing away with the user created and Current staff created content and going for typical cable channel 30 and 60 minute programmimng. How good can that be? They want to mimic eveyione else on cable. The good thing about Current was their unique individuality among cable channels. Without that, I doubt they'll be worth anything.
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Has Current TV bothered consulting their so-called small viewer base in what they would want? From what I have experienced, the view base is small because there's a minority of people who are not blindly following the trend of useless big media and instead want grassroots productions that aren't thirty minutes of drawn-out noninformation.
If the network is healthy and successful then how can they say that it doesn't have to do with money? As long as the network is able to support itself, generating an excess profit should not be a remote consideration. News media clearly should never get into the business of greedy profits.
This article reads like Current TV is a small pet project that needs to be "normalized" in order to be a true success. Perhaps it would have had more success if it weren't completely ignored in larger media circles. Rarely did I read or hear of large media corporations mentioning Current TV during Laura Lang or Euna Lee's horrific ordeal. It has always seemed like other news sources ignored it, hoping it's true threat to the status quo would disppear. And I suppose it now will. - 2 years ago
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ahappymintleaf:
It's sad because I think all the realists here know that it will NEVER be the same. Once you turn something into a money making machine, it will never turn back. The old Current TV I used to be attracted to will never exist again.
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Like people are saying it's going to be like MTV wow I stopped watching that about 20 years ago when they started the show with all the whores moving in with each other. It's garbage.
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The new CURRENT sounds horrible, it's so sad. The whole reason that I watched the channel and go to the web site is that I got 5 minute shows. This used to be my favorite site. Does anyone know any good sites that can take it's place for me?
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JonRaymond
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yepyep:
I may build one
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yepyep:
If you do, please let me know. While I don't always agree with you I love to read your posts and watch your vids.
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yepyep:
Democracy now or CLG are good news outlets......
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JonRaymond
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yepyep:
Thanks samthesixth
I have a blog where I post everything: http://jonraymond.blogspot.com
Plus two project blogs:
Out in the Street Films: http://outinthestreetfilms.com
The Stop War Project: http://stopwar.lafilmonline.com - 2 years ago
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yepyep:
Jon,
I will bookmark them. Thank you.
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JonRaymond
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I think everyone should delete all the posts they put up. This place is becoming Fox News.
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JonRaymond:
Exactly! It's become the liberal biased version of Fox news.
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JonRaymond:
This anti-Current article would've never made it here to the front page if Current were anything like Fox news.
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JonRaymond:
If this were Fox New I wouldn't be here.
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JonRaymond:
it may have made it to the top of the news forum, but it wont go on TV!!
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JonRaymond:
Yeah haha because Current Tonight is gone. I see the end of posting stories coming soon... There's no purpose for it anymore.
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JonRaymond:
Totally agree. They're two sides of the same coin, just like Democrats and Republicans. They sing and dance for us and keep us riled up and divided, then systematically strip away our rights. I think it might be time to find a new website to keep me occupied.
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JonRaymond:
Actually, the article isn't anti-Current at all if you read it. It's just the Headline by JohnR that is anti-Current. And of course they aren't going to pick this article for TV. How lame would that be- an article about the LA Times reporting that Current is possibly changing their time schedule? They would just announce that themselves.
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I thought this site was going to be fair and balanced, but the more I come here the more I see the favoritism that goes on and how current staff manipulate how news are shown. Instead of fixing the problem, they tell you to read the "guidelines" and go about their way.
Everyone falls for the mighty dollar... I thought current was going to be different but, they prove me wrong every day.
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They, like everyone else in life, are selling out to the almightly dollar.
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