Community | November 15, 2009 | 96 comments

Current Staffer Jumped Off Bridge

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JonRaymond
Former Current staffer, Charles Lawrence, discusses his experience at Current, their lack of professionalism and how another laid off staffer jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge:

"Let me tell you something about CurrentTV. I worked there for 3 months in late 2007. I was on the upstairs online team(we were maintaining the old website while the guys on the Embarcadero team in the basement were working on the new one). I came in to work on Sept 14 and was there for about half an hour when I was led into Al Gore’s office(he wasn’t there) and was let go. They offered no explanation and refused to tell me why I was being laid off. My experiences working there were good at the time, but I got the overall sense the company didn’t have any direction. The worst part of being laid off wasn’t the fact that they treated me INCREDIBLY unprofessionally, it was that they laid off several other people the same day in much the same manner. One of the guys that was on my team was in QA. A couple of days after they fired him (again, without giving cause), he jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge to his death."

Charles Lawrence's blog: http://trending.us/

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Update: Another comment from Dave, also apparently a Current staffer:

"As I read my severance agreement, I realized that Current is not mentioning an important bit of information. Their actions have triggered the WARN Act. Moreover, when Current says that they’ve laid off 80 employees, they’re not mentioning that they plan to lay off, at least, 20 more. One of the factors that triggers the WARN Act is when a company lays off a third of its workforce. Current had about 300 US employees before today’s layoffs, so letting go of 80 employees does not set off WARN. Letting go of 100 would.

Why do I think that Current’s workforce reduction falls under WARN? Because in addition to a promised severance payment, I continue on Current’s payroll for 60 days with benefits – even though I have no obligation to perform work. What Current is doing is getting around the 60 day notification provision under WARN by continuing pay and benefits for laid off workers. In addition, my Termination Agreement states that I would release the company from any claims that it has violated the WARN act.

While Current deflects questions about more lay offs in the coming months, they’re actions cannot hide the fact that they plan to, at least, have a total of 100 employees gone by the next few months."

WARN Act: http://www.doleta.gov/programs/factsht/warn.htm

See Charles Lawrence's and Dave's comments in the comments section of this article "Current TV Staff Suffer a Major Bloodbath as 80 Employees Lose their Jobs":
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/11/current-tv-staff-suffer-a-major-bloodbath-a...
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96 comments // Current Staffer Jumped Off Bridge

  • copperdragon
  • JollyGoodFelon
  • J_Jammer
  • mickeyhooligan
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      mickeyhooligan  
    • In the beginning of FM radio there was a Bay Area Portuguese language station that played for a few hours some really great combinations of SF rock, blues and folk music...it was called KMPX..it became a hit and it went completely musical..then the owner sold it and it eventually became a canned format that didnt even have live disc jockies and everyone deserted listening to it. The commercalization of a brand in other words is nothing new. At the beginning of the internet there was a cool site called The Well, the orignal owner sold it (the people on the site didnt even realize there was an owner!!!) And it was deserted by many of its users. It's still around....So don't get yr knickers all perturbed. Bertolt Brecht lived in East Germany but kept his money in the West....bohemianism does not age well...people cash in. Nothing new.

      Sorry to hear when anybody gets laid off.

    • 2 years ago
  • JollyGoodFelon
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      JollyGoodFelon  
    • Thanks JonRaymond I'm on. Current's comment nazis can kiss my butt (again). This includes Danielle and Brandon, or their puppeteers whichever.

      And Al Gore is a jackass.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • Sick of Current's new format before it's even got well under way? Me too. Here's your out. Don't jump off a bridge. Jump over to http://currentb.ning.com

      The new current for and by the people, not the corporations. All are welcome. Join and set up your profile. Create groups just like on current. Then add your current posts as forum topics or blogs. Copy and paste your post here or add new ones. But just yours. You posted them. You own them. The people have the power if they have the balls to use it.

      Help figure out what to do next. I'll share the admin with a few of the movers here.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • HowdyDo
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      HowdyDo  
    • If you are laid off and it isn't for anything YOU did, you can collect unemployment - AFTER your 60 days of severance pay and benefits end - wah, wah

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • JollyGoodFelon
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      JollyGoodFelon  
    • Current sucks in all ways nowdays. It used to be the bomb. They got some suit from MTV now it sucks ass. I think it's the same dude that took the M out of MTV. The guy was probably the last cool employee of current.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • I worked for a defense contractor and there were two suicides when my layoff came, so I don't think socialism has much to do with this. It's tough no matter who you are. It's always worse during a recession and worse if there are children or pets involved especially if you lose your home. I've often found that layoffs aren't handled ethically. If my company had handled things openly and straightforward I could have managed difficulties and losses effectively - saving educational loans that may not have been needed and avoiding much of the equity loss in my home. When people needed me I was showered with bonuses and offers. When people did not need me I was told to get lost.

      You have my respect because I know that pain. You already know it takes a man to carry on, but it also takes a human to share the loss. Good luck and blessings.

    • 2 years ago
  • calm_incense
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      calm_incense  
    • Why is it that the conservatives on Current always seem to be the biggest douches?

      Well, I guess this does reflect reality in general. But still, the correlation between a Current user being a conservative and that same Current user being a total douche-bag is mindbogglingly high.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • calm_incense:

      now you should note that I never directed any invective at any individuals on this forum, but you on the other hand have directly insulted me personally twice.

      it's typical liberal nonsense: you folks can say anything you want, from calling people "assholes", "cunts", "tea-baggers", etc. But if a conservative discusses the idiocy of a bunch of whining punks who lose their jobs and then publicly cry about it, then the conservative is a "douche" for not being "sensitive"?

      Maybe if these folks had an ounce of self respect and didn't publicly cry about their "misfortune" when in reality they seem to have been treated much more kindly than many other people, they'd get a little sympathy.

      Something tells me the suicide was a liberal. Can anyone prove me wrong?

    • 2 years ago
  • calm_incense
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      calm_incense  
    • calm_incense:

      1. I'm not a liberal. Or, if I am, then I am also a conservative.

      2. I've never called anyone an "asshole", a "cunt", of a "tea-bagger". Don't forget the first three letters of the word "assume".

      My issue is not with conservative ideology; my issue is with conservatives' increasingly nasty attitudes. It's not just you, but a general trend I've noticed in which conservatives feel entitled to act like complete douchebags, as if being a jerk was a noble virtue.

      Conservatism is associated with the South; isn't the South usually associated with good manners? It seems the World Wide Web is eroding this regional tendency.

    • 2 years ago
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • calm_incense:

      curtisreed talks too much. He knows the difficulty, but can't help from scoring a cheap political point. Politics is the ruin of everyone. There are good conservatives out there.

      If you want to be happy study music.
      If you want to know more study science.
      If you wan to be happy and know less study religion.
      If you want to make everyone unhappy and know nothing study politics.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • calm_incense:

      oh God, what profound observations.

      to dirtman, funny that absurd quote. I've studied all the above, music, science, world religion, and politics. but what offends you isn't that I don't "know anything" but that I'm not afraid to say that the idiots in teh article are pansies. Whining good for nothing wusses.

      but see, here at current, we're all supposed to respond with sympathy to any moron who criticizes a corporation. "aaah, poor bloke. did little pumpkin get laid off? did hims feewings get hurt because they didn't answer all hims questions? aw, so sad."

      One of my best friends was laid off two weeks ago. He got 2 weeks of separation and didn't utter a single complaint. "Yeah, well, I'll find another job. It might be a hard few months, but there are other jobs." He knows it may be tough times, but he didn't cry like a baby and post on a blog about how he was treated.

      thank God there are a few men left in the world anyway

    • 2 years ago
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • calm_incense:

      Hmmm... ambiguity on my part

      If you want to make everyone unhappy and know nothing study politics.

      Do not read as;

      If you want to make everyone unhappy and you know nothing study politics.

      Instead read;

      If you want to make everyone unhappy and if you want everyone to know nothing study politics.

    • 2 years ago
  • calm_incense
    • calm_incense  
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  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • calm_incense:

      never let a crisis pass you by.

      Hey, you know if the shoe fits, and it fits. A conservative would NEVER whine about being laid off with two full months pay ANd benefits. It's only sick whining liberals who are not mature enough to understand that a business must berun for profit or go out of business who whine and cry because they were laid off and decry the "injustice". Call the waaaaaambulance.

      I actually have sympathy for anyone who is laid off: it's a very tough thing to go through. But when I see this kind of sissy behavior I lose all respect for the great Nellie. Someone change his diapers, please.

    • 2 years ago
  • rebelution07
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • rebelution07:

      I miss your logic here. If we're in a recession, losing your job makes it all the more likely you'd become depressed enough to kill yourself, depending on other factors. But if you have no hope for finding another job, that's s a down place to be.

    • 2 years ago
  • rebelution07
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      rebelution07  
    • rebelution07:

      We're in a recession and there are many people that are losing their jobs. I understand that losing your job and other factors can play a role in suicide deaths, but that's still no excuse to kill yourself.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • Oh my GOD this is rich!
      "I continue on Current’s payroll for 60 days with benefits – even though I have no obligation to perform work. What Current is doing is getting around the 60 day notification provision under WARN by continuing pay and benefits for laid off workers. In addition, my Termination Agreement states that I would release the company from any claims that it has violated the WARN "

      Dude, do you realize that there are hundreds of thousands of folks laid off without any severance or with only a couple weeks pay? You get TWO f*ing months of pay AND benefits and you are whining?

      See, this is what you get when you hire socialist punks: they think they are so goddamn special they should get a handjob and a year's severance to go away happily.

      Well pal, you didn't have to sign the agreement! But you did to get your two months pay. Quit your crying, girly man

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • curtisreed:

      I'm not defending his right to a job. No one has a "right" to a job. A job is earned by whether or not you have something to offer. Apparently this man had nothing more to offer and was fired. Fair enough, its their right to fire him.

      What is upsetting me are the recent changes in Current. A new CEO came from MTV and wants to turn Current TV into a MTV-like channel to boost profit and ad revenue. Clearly, they've had to get rid of some people to do it... and I think that is where this story ties in.

      I like Current because of what originally attracted me; how users submitted news and pods and how they participated in the running of the channel. If they turn it into another MTV-channel like so many out there I will be so pissed off. MTV has got to be the dumbest fucking channel in the world...

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • curtisreed:

      Yup. And the kicker is, Current had a banner year. This isn't a financial move. it's just a management decision to attract more advertisers. Pure greed.

      But if the thing that makes Current stand out from the crowd (the user generated media and short subjects) - if that's gone, how long can they hold on? Who needs another cable channel just like all the others out there?

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • JulianCommongold
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      JulianCommongold  
    • How do we know he jumped because of Current?
      We dont even have the name of the victim. We are going by the statement of a third party.
      Was there a note left that directly fingered Current?

      Not picking sides here it just seems the title is a little sensational..............
      Give me some more facts please so I can decide fairly.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • JulianCommongold:

      I communicated with Charles, the guy who worked with the man who jumped, and invited him to comment further. He declined, due to considerations for the man's family. I think it's all too true and because of the nature of suicide and kind of crude and insensitive reactions people have to it, like we see right here, these things are left out of the public eye.

      Do you suppose the family of this person would want to endure the crack pots we have here telling them to get over it and that's the way life is, grow a pair?

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • JulianCommongold:

      And teh $60,000 question: who cares?

      Liberals believe in evolution: well it's survival of the fittest. These sensitive whining liberal Current employees are not fit for the hard knocks life will deal them.

      We call them PUSSIES where I come from (no insult to the women out there who often have more chutzpah than these sissy metrosexual fools)

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • To the censors: these comments are directed at teh individuals quoted in the article, and NOT the Current community folks.
      so to Charles and Mr-I-got-laid-off-so-I-threw-myself-off-the-bridge, what a bunch of fricking whiners. Mr Lawrence's description of the "unprofessional " manner of being "fired" simply reveals how stupid and narcisitcs he is. NEWSFLASH Chuck: that's the way it goees everywhere. Or you thought that you were so special they would give you a flower arrangement when they let you go?
      BTW, you childish wussy, being laid off is different than being fired. ANd in most states that I know of, they don't have to gie you ANY reason for a lay off or a firing. So NO you weren't treated unfairly, life is just a little tough. Grow a pair and get over it.
      Times are tough. If you were more of a manand less of a boy you might deal with life's difficulties a little more maturely.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • curtisreed:

      That doesn't make it any less unprofessional. It's common courtesy to forewarn people of things like this or else provide a severance. Being that the cutbacks are not due to financial constraints of the company in it's banner year, there's no excuse if this is still happening now.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • curtisreed:

      hey Joh, what do you think 2 months of paid leave with benefits is? that's called a severance.

      so let me see if I got this straight: they called the punk to HR, he waited 30 minutes, they informed him he was laid off, had him sign an agreement that gave him 60 days paid severance with benefits, but that was unprofessional?

      I guess if the company was true to its Liberal values, it should have given him a year's salary, an ounce of marijuana, tickets to Holland, a gift card for any whore he wanted, and a grateful tug of the testicles?

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • curtisreed:

      earth to johnraymond: they don't have to give you any excuse! it's not your business! if you want to start a business with liberal do-gooder values, go do it.

      otherwise, just learn to deal with the real world in all its brutal glory.

    • 2 years ago
  • JollyGoodFelon
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      JollyGoodFelon  
    • Those changes a while back were symptoms of a new sucky current. The front page got all interfered with so it was no longer the same site nor same values at all. No longer a user voted and supplied forum. They axed people they didn't agree with according to their political or religious agendas. Instead of a news source it has become just another "program you" site. You can only say something if it doesn't offend anyone. And if anyone claims you are a hater, they just call you a hateful bigot and banish you. Free speech prevents violence!

    • 2 years ago
  • Nocturnus
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      Nocturnus  
    • Image
    • All this is so sad. I thought current was different, looking out for the underdog.
      Please Current say this is not so!
      Is this the Death of a Ideal?

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
  • Chris_Sinclair
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      Chris_Sinclair  
    • NEWS FLASH - The economy is circling the drain, and most companies are doing this to stay afloat. Maybe someone working at a news company would keep up with such things. It's like a psychic saying "I didn't see that coming." I also agree with Elligirl, to take this so personally that you end your life reveals some underlying personal problems.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • Chris_Sinclair:

      News flash: Read the article (http://current.com/http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/11/current-tv-staff-suffer-...). Current is not changing due to financial issues. In fact they've had a banner year.

      The change is apparently to woo new advertisers who shy away from user generated content programming. So it would appear they are just being greedy and want more. But the regressive strategy of going back to what every other cable channel does makes no sense. Current stands out because of what it is.

      This may attract advertisers but how long will that last of the audience goes away. Such is the anal retentive logic of traditional managerial conservative logic.

    • 2 years ago
  • booksellergirl
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      booksellergirl  
    • Ahem, tap ... tap ...tap ... is this thing on? Okay, um, THERE IS A RECESSION GOING ON!! A lot of people have been laid off. It sucks. It's terrible. But it's life. We are ALL trying to make it through these tough times. NEWS FLASH: Current is a business trying to stay afloat, too. I'm sorry if this ex-staffer killed himself over this. I'm really, really sorry. But I also don't think that Current is some evil empire trying to crush all in it's path. Sell that garbage to someone else. I ain't buying.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • booksellergirl:

      ah, but you see booksellergirl, you are a matureand self-respecting WOMAN and the author is a childish narcisist. AND he is probably a liberal who hates corporations, except when they are over-paying him for what little work he does.

      Did you notice his outrage that they made him wait 30 minutes before laying him off?
      I've known folks who got their notice by email! "Don't come into the office: you are laid off"

      Advice to the author: go get a job at WalMart...unless you are too good for that too

    • 2 years ago
  • vesher
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • vesher:

      Making a big deal about nothing. It's like causing fear because of people that are angry at the way they've been treated and the way they've been treated isn't terrible....until they start using adjectives that would suggest otherwise.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
  • BustYourFace
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      BustYourFace  
    • vesher:

      I was thinking the same thing. He's in every thread I read running off at the mouth like he thinks he's the messiah. He has an answer for everything and everyone. Beware of the person who knows everything about everything.

    • 3 hours ago
  • J_Jammer
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • And I know how people won't read something unless the title is attention grabbing, but when a suicide is used in such a manner it does make me sick. Anyone committing suicide is doing so for many reasons and the job isn't the main one....it's just the straw that broke the camel's back.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • How is it unprofessional to fire people? That's kind of what happened all this year and the end of last year.

      In my industry they let go of an entire floor with no warning.

      Is California a state where you have to give two weeks notice? Texas is not. I can quit when I want and they can fire me when they want.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • J_Jammer:

      YOU SEE J_Jammer, when one is a narcisist, one cannot imagine how one can be laid off at all. I don't care if they'd have given him an all-expense paid trip to Hawaii, the whiner would have cried foul.
      "Yeah, OK, I got 2 months pay AND a trip to Hawaii but I didn't get to go in Al's private jet! I was INDESPENSIBLE!"

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • CalgarC
  • snarly
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      snarly  
    • I just got laid off a couple weeks ago, it's nothing new, pick yourself up and live your life. In this day and age, alot of people are getting laid off. You make it sound like the end of the world, it's not. Get over it.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • I may disagree with their programming decisions and actually how some on this site favor a few over the many, but really: It's a website. I think some are blowing this out of proportion. Either that or someone just wants to implicate Al Gore in something else for another reason. Losing your job indeed sucks, I know, it's happened to me. But I moved on, looked for another job, and lived my life. This does sound like classic sour grapes.

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • JanforGore:

      I think it all points to the harmful changes tht are being done to Current TV since the new CEO from MTV took over. He wants to change the channel into a normal mainstream channel and he needs to axe some people to do it...

      Laura Ling and Euna Lee were let go I believe...

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • JanforGore:

      Urban Gypsy: those two "journalists" should have been fired. The dumb jackasses were investigating how groups from South Korea and China were helping to smuggle refugees out of commie N Korea and they got caught with lists of names of North Koreans and Chinese who might be arrested and killed for trying to free people.

    • 2 years ago
  • funnicus
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      funnicus [removed]  
    • Too bad they have left in place those enemies of true freedom and free speech. The censors, the goodie-two shoe nannyist brown-nosers who say their pledges and think they are "politically correct" All the while they overlook that suppressing free speech just increases violence, since that is it's alternative.

    • 2 years ago
  • scarlettcutie_01
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      scarlettcutie_01  
    • My guess is current thinks it will make this guy look like a douche' if they leave the story on for awhile. Then they can write him off peaceably as just another p=====d off ex-employee ranting and raving. Companies have been getting around the act the same way for a long time. Try posting a peer-reviewed article about how easy it is to do this and maybe a link to an article about a company that got caught recently. If you must rant give yourself some more credibility. If you have case present it with some professionalism, don't damage it like this. Basic law... think about it.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
  • BustYourFace
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      BustYourFace  
    • Interesting story JonRaymond... even if it is just for the 50 people who see it before it gets squashed into cyber oblivion by the Current Mod Squad.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nettle
  • BustYourFace
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      BustYourFace  
    • BustYourFace:

      Damn. Net, I'm really surprised. I've seen so many stories squashed in the passed, I thought sure this one would get the axe. Oh well, maybe they left it up to spite the nay sayers. lol.

      None the less, I stand corrected. :)

    • 2 years ago
  • calm_incense
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      calm_incense  
    • I'm pretty sure Current doesn't *like* laying off its workforce. But if you have more employees than you need, it just doesn't make any sense to keep them.

      Moreover, getting laid off, no matter how "unprofessionally" it was carried out, is hardly an excuse for suicide.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nettle
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      Nettle  
    • Man I'm so sick of hearing that same exact quote about WARN over and over again. If it really bothers you, call the police or whoever can investigate. Stop bitching about it to us, we don't care.

    • 2 years ago
  • controlusplease
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      controlusplease  
    • Nettle:

      damnnnnn funnicus! Burns like that could be fatal!
      but i agree, this is a story that should be read, if a source for information we all trust is doing some shady things....well it makes you wonder, doesnt it?

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • Nettle:

      Not for nothing but Nettle doesn't "kiss up to authority", if anything, Current is the type of website that notices it's major users and gives them opportunities to pursue their interests. People like Nettle and myself are friendly with staff here because we share common interests and appreciate the website a lot. I also have to agree with Nettle that if Current's hiring and firing practices are illegal and concern certain Current users, they should be taking more action than complaining over and over again ...

      Also, Current may function as a "source of information", but nearly of the articles link back to another source of information. It's very important on Current that you always look at the source and verify what you are being told, whether or not the heads of Current are "doing shady things".

    • 2 years ago
  • Nettle
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      Nettle  
    • Nettle:

      Lol, at funnicus before his comment got deleted. Did you read my comment? I commented about the WARN thing. I've read the exact same quote, word for word, over and over again. Some asshole just keeps cutting and pasting it. If he's really so outraged that he wants all of us to read it, the appropriate thing to do would be to do something himself.

    • 2 years ago
  • funnicus
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      funnicus [removed]  
    • Nettle:

      Just like I said about the brown nosing type, run and tell. What rhymes with stiches?
      And I was going to ask you something, are all guys with anime photos gay? Is that some kind of like sign so you can spot each other like the earring thing?

    • 2 years ago
  • Nettle
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      Nettle  
    • Nettle:

      Brown-nosing is not the same as snitching, and I have done neither of those things. I'm not even the one who flagged your comment and got it removed.

      BTW I'm a chick, funstuff. ^_^

    • 2 years ago
  • mickeyhooligan
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      mickeyhooligan  
    • Little vague on the suicide....hope that angry young man wasn't making it up...start ups are a bitch...but learning how to let someone go w class is an art

    • 2 years ago
  • HPD
  • GrinningSatyr
  • curtisreed
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • HPD:

      It is amazing how many people don't understand what suicide is and why people actually do it.

      There are very, very few things that I really hate.....but I hate when people cannot understand suicide because they refuse to.

      That's about it....I'll allow my tongue to bleed.

    • 2 years ago
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • HPD:

      j_jammer, I've had several friends kill themselves. none of them did it because they lost a job. to be honest, i don't really believe that part of the whole damn story. probably a lie told by a whining "former-Current liberal pansy"

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • curtisreed
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      curtisreed  
    • HPD:

      j_jammer, I understand and agree with you. just for the record, my comments are more directed to the guy is whining about geting laid off without explanation....

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • crispyfritters
  • ryanqk
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      ryanqk  
    • i notice this same user uploaded a bunch of anti-current articles today, it looks shady, pissed off ex-employee much? Lot's more people are also out of jobs dude....

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • ryanqk:

      ryanqk, its all tied in. You might not realize it, being a newer member, but Current used to be alot funner. The webiste and channel were perfectly tied together.

      There have been many bad changes since then. Current is changing for the worse...

    • 2 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • That's terrible. :( But anyone who lets the loss of a single job affect their entire life has a bit of trouble already, I think.

    • 2 years ago
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