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Monsanto steps back on two GMOs. Why?

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I don't think it has anything to do with commercial reasons and everything to do with what tests have shown. That GMOS are unsafe for human consumption.
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24 comments // Monsanto steps back on two GMOs. Why?

  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • I am not worthy of saying anything to JanforGore! She is an elite, far above me and all you other peons! We must worship the gold that drips forth from her royal mouth!

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • smallgod:

      I didn't accuse I asked a question. The person is well within their rights to come back and answer it. And with all due respect, I don't need your lectures either. This isn't about getting people to "my side." What is that all about? Is that all you think this is about to me? If so, you are dead wrong.

    • 2 years ago
  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • JanforGore:

      You just seem kind of, uh, rude I guess lately. I'll be sure not to say anything to you again, out of fear you'll scare me with your words. I don't see why you have to be so nasty to people on here, that's all.

    • 2 years ago
  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • JanforGore:

      So your point on here is to just yell 'facts' at people and diminish them until they listen? Or just to have your facts available for all your fans to see, regardless of whether or not you get others to agree with you? Either way, it sounds self defeating. For a second, I thought you might be reasonable to talk to, but I see I was wrong and will avoid doing so in the future. Maybe you are a bot.

    • 2 years ago
  • phillimj
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      phillimj  
    • What needs to happen is to grow our own ....from urban gardens to country gardens where we have control over what we put in the ground...seeds, compost, fertilizer and natural pest control. Save your seeds and trade with others. There are numerous sites that have organic seeds to grow healthy plants...How much longer are we going to be able to trust what the grocery store is selling us? Some of my friends are now growing their own using hyroponic rooms and producing super vegetables in small spaces....think about that!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • phillimj
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      phillimj  
    • Of course this has to do with commerical reasons....Monsanto is in the business to make money....every time i'm stuck behind a tractor or sprayer going out to a field, I see the name Monsanto on the liquid they are going to spray....are we ever going to be safe from monster companies with only profit in mind? Or the control of all the major farming companies in the U.S. and abroad....At least we have some regulations....but go to other countries, like South America and you would not believe the amount of pesticides they spray on all kinds of produce.

    • 2 years ago
  • phillimj
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      phillimj  
    • I believe that Monsanto is genetically engineering plants so that they don't produce seeds and as a result, more and more farmers will have to rely on the Big M for their plants or seeds. In the past farmers kept seeds and exchanged them with each other. How will this happen if there are no seed to save? Some of the seeds that Monsanto is altering already has insecticede in them!! So you would be eating a vegetable or fruit that also has some form of insecticide already in it. Whether or not it's a safe insecticede is beside the point....what effect will this added bonus have on our bodies?

    • 2 years ago
  • macdontcare
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      macdontcare  
    • Monsanto sucks! Wish I could believe that this was about feeding people, but it only entails their bottom line.
      As plants evolved, and they did 'evolve', changes occurred that allowed them to adapt to the environment. Humans came along and started introducing other similar plants to the ones they deemed a benefit(not much cross pollination with dandelions). For better or worse this worked. Trial and error, hoping to attain the benefitial attributes of each to aquire a more robust food source. This is genetic manipulation! These plants would rarely find themselves in close enough proximity to accomplish this through natural means. This is not to say it never happened. What Monsanto, among others, have done is manipulate genes in a labratory setting. Introducing genes that otherwise never could have happened without the help of a technician and a well stocked lab.
      We'll be making frequent withdrawals from that seed bank meant for a catastrophe. Or has that catastrophe already begun!

    • 2 years ago
  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • What Monsanto does to hard working farmers in this country is totally evil as well. They don't let them use their own seeds, effectively basically outlawing the machines that clean seeds, and suing farmers for copyright infringement if another farmer's Monsanto gene blows over into their crop? That's like a man patenting his genes, sleeping with a bunch of women, and suing the ones that have his children. Screw Monsanto!

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
  • Rafael_Latorre
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      Rafael_Latorre  
    • If it wasnt because bio-engeneering companis like this ones we will still be harvesting corn cobs the size of a peanut, 8 billion people need lots of food and technology will provide us with this yields.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • Rafael_Latorre:

      While I agree that genetic engineering by means of selective breeding of plants is necessary to feed the world's growing population, the genetic modification of foods is a recent and untested development in human history and its negative effects have been seen both economically with the patenting of life, which should have never been allowed to happen, and naturally with the negative effects of genetically modified foods such as destruction of soil and mass production of corn based chemical-products appearing in the majority of supermarket foods.

    • 2 years ago
  • smallgod
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      smallgod  
    • Rafael_Latorre:

      Jan, while I understand your passion, that person may not be 'working for' anyone and I don't think that approach will effectively bring people to your side of the argument. Penn and Teller did a 'Bullshit' episode on GMOs, and probably many people watched it and agreed with them. Unfortunately, they are comedians, so they are wrong a lot.

      Some points in the past that you've posted I've disagreed with because they seemed to focus more on large or seemingly insurmountable issues such as 'global warming' instead of issues people could use or do something about, but your more recent posts have shown me that 'global warming' isn't your only concern on this website (I, too, thought you were a bot or working for an organization, in the same manner as you have accused this individual) and I have liked many of your recent posts for this reason (including this one).

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • macdontcare
  • phillimj
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      phillimj  
    • If you read "The Botany of Desire" by Michael Pollan or watched the PBS show, you would never eat another Russet Burbank potato. Monsanto has done so much genetic moditication to potatoes and other veggies under the guise of loosely worded patents, that who knows what they will try to feed us next.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Yes, like our own. But then, considering the people Obama is nominating to agricultural positions it is obvious human and environmental health are not the top priorities.

    • 2 years ago
  • macdontcare
  • csmonut
  • JanforGore
  • SeaJade
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Excerpt:
      Monsanto has abandoned its ambitious plans for two types of a so-called "second generation GM crop" rather than accede to a request from European regulators for additional research and safety data.

      Monsanto has informed the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) that it no longer wishes to pursue its application for approval of GM maize LY038 and the stacked variety LY038 x MON810. Both of these varieties were designed to accelerate the growth rate of animals. Two letters were sent to EFSA from the Monsanto subsidiary company Renessen at the end of April this year confirming the withdrawal of its applications originally submitted in 2005 and 2006. The letters cite "decreased commercial value worldwide" and state that the high-lysene varieties "will no longer be a part of the Renessen business strategy in the near future." There has been no announcement of these decisions on the Monsanto web site, and there are no mentions on EFSA or European Commission web sites either. In other words, there is a conspiracy of silence involving both the applicants and the regulators.

      The two letters sent to EFSA in April requested the return of all dossier material (varietal characterization, experimental protocols, and test results) which was submitted with the applications for cultivation, animal feed and human food. EFSA acceded to this request, making it impossible for any future independent researchers to analyse the Monsanto / Renessen data.

      Scientists who have followed these two applications are quite convinced that the "decisions to withdraw" have nothing to do with commercial considerations and everything to do with food safety. In other words, the varieties are too dangerous to be allowed onto the open market. Objections came from scientists at the Canterbury University's Centre for Integrated Research in Biosafety (INBI), New Zealand, who warned that the new corn was not safe for humans when cooked. They also expressed concerns about unpredictable health effects, increased levels of toxins in high- lysene corn, and possible allergies and links to cancer.

      INBI's concerns were supported by some European countries, which prompted the EFSA to ask for new trials and adherence to the rules of the Codex Alimentarius, thus forcing Monsanto to withdraw its request under the pretext of a "decreased commercial value".

    • 2 years ago
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