Community | November 20, 2009 | 7 comments

Vatican claims shroud determined to be 'real'

source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/20/shroud-of-turin-is-real-v_n_365496.html

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ROME — A Vatican researcher has rekindled the age-old debate over the Shroud of Turin, saying that faint writing on the linen proves it was the burial cloth of Jesus.

Experts say the historian may be reading too much into the markings, and they stand by carbon-dating that points to the shroud being a medieval forgery.

Barbara Frale, a researcher at the Vatican archives, says in a new book that she used computer-enhanced images of the shroud to decipher faintly written words in Greek, Latin and Aramaic scattered across the cloth.

She asserts that the words include the name "(J)esu(s) Nazarene" – or Jesus of Nazareth – in Greek. That, she said, proves the text could not be of medieval origin because no Christian at the time, even a forger, would have mentioned Jesus without referring to his divinity. Failing to do so would risk being branded a heretic.

"Even someone intent on forging a relic would have had all the reasons to place the signs of divinity on this object," Frale said Friday. "Had we found 'Christ' or the 'Son of God' we could have considered it a hoax, or a devotional inscription."

The shroud bears the figure of a crucified man, complete with blood seeping from his hands and feet, and believers say Christ's image was recorded on the linen's fibers at the time of his resurrection.
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7 comments // Vatican claims shroud determined to be 'real'

  • KSirys
  • samthesixth
  • SlowDownWould
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      SlowDownWould  

    • I firmly believe that this shroud is the product of Leonardo Di Vinci, and that it is an early form of photography. So says the history channel. Not to mention the face on the shroud and Di Vinci's face in his self portrait match up perfectly. Coincidence? Me thinks not. And if it was Jesus's death cover, why would there be a silhouette of him on there. Was he leaking? And I also believe a "Vatican scientist" would tend to be a little bias.

    • 2 years ago
  • SleepDirt
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      SleepDirt  
    • SlowDownWould:

      **And I also believe a "Vatican scientist" would tend to be a little bias.**

      Yeah, just a little. It would be awfully convenient to their agenda if there were anything in the way of science to connect this to the alleged existence of Jesus and his alleged 'specialness'.

      The Vatican's esteemed scientists can wish out loud all they want but opinions don't make it any more true.

    • 2 years ago
  • EdJoyProductions
  • desertcat
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      desertcat  

    • During the Crusades while people through out the world traveled to the Holy Land relics were made by the thousands. It is said that the finger of one of the saints was sold over two hundred times. Pieces of the true cross have been given out since it was found in the 4th century till this day. During the 11th century the Shroud was considered a fake by the Vatican but that it drew in so many pilgrims each donating money to see it that it became real. To determine if it is real one must go back to the crucifixion. The Romans had them weekly, so why would this one be any different. No historian recorded it the way it is written in the bible and if the Romans made a big display of Jesus' someone would of notice or been told of the event and recorded it. What is the truth? Just look at the bible regarding the death of Christ, not one can decide on what happen. Did the dead walk, the sky turn black? If the dead walked then why did only one Apostle write of it. To me that would be the big event not a blacken sky. The Vatican has to come out with a strong yes it is real or no it is not. Since so many believe or want to believe it is true than it can cause no more harm than what the apostles saw or didn't It is all a fable anyway.

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
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