President Obama's approval rating drops below 50%
source: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5AJ53220091120
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Gallup said 49 percent of Americans approved of Obama's job performance. A survey by Quinnipiac University on Wednesday had a similar finding, putting him at 48 percent support.
It was the first time he had fallen below majority support in those two polls. He had been polling in the low 50s for months after taking office in January with an approval rating just under 70 percent.
Gallup said Obama's drop in its daily tracking poll likely resulted from the contentious debate over healthcare as well as the poor state of the U.S. economy, with millions of Americans out of work.
"Americans are also concerned about the Obama administration's reliance on government spending to solve the nation's problems and the growing federal budget deficit," Gallup said in an analysis of its poll, which surveyed 1,533 people from Tuesday to Thursday. The margin of error was 4 points.
Democrat Obama became the fourth-fastest U.S. president since World War Two to drop below majority support in the Gallup poll, following Republican Gerald Ford, Democrat Bill Clinton and Republican Ronald Reagan.
Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, said that although Obama's job approval was below 50 percent for the first time nationally, it was not statistically different from his 50 percent approval rating in October.
"Nevertheless, in politics symbols matter and this is not a good symbol for the White House," said Brown. "Moreover, the percentage who approve of the way he is handling the economy has dropped from a split 47-46 percent approval in October to 52-43 percent disapproval today."
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montesooma
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I have 0% approval for this neomarxist scumbag.
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montesooma
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ochreRobot
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montesooma:
Can you explain what a neomarxist is, what they believe and how neo-marxism is bad for our culture or country?
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ochreRobot
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montesooma
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montesooma:
Yeh right after you explain neo conservative and all it's facets, history, agenda to me. Man get outta here, it's not my job to educate you on this -- it would take me a year.
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montesooma
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Ihatethemall
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montesooma:
If you need to be educated on why marxism is bad for this country there is nothing I could say to you that wouldnt violate Currents community guidelines.
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Ihatethemall
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montesooma:
Here you go I think that this link will explain what you are askng for much better than I would be able to. You are welcome in advance.
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ochreRobot
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kennymotown
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There really is only one poll that matters and that won't come for another 3 years.
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Tyr
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kennymotown:
Thanks kenny for stating the obvious. The only poll that has any meaning at all is the one taken every four years in November.
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Tyr
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ibrake4rappers13
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I never really pay attention to polls.
i dont need a poll to tell me how incompetent Obama is, thats as clear as day, and im sure that this wont change the mind of The Obama crowd
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ibrake4rappers13
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TheOuroborus
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But hey... the banks are doing well.
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TheOuroborus
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csmonut
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Cripes...if people really paid attention to polls, this country would be in a lot worse condition.
But...this gives the right wingnuts more to crow about. They have to have something to latch onto. - 2 years ago
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csmonut
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CalPerr
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Whatever. He is trying to help and people shit on him for it. Why not vote for a new district rep. instead of in an opinion poll.
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CalPerr
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WindyTimmy
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Presidential terms are four years. Everyone needs to relax. Remember that party you had...and your house got all fucked up. Beer bottles mysteriously found there way into your bedroom, cigarette butts in your favorite coffee mug, records placed on radiators, left to melt, the pizza you put in the oven at 4am but didn't remember about until 2pm the next day when you woke up...that didn't take just a few minutes to clean up, did it? No, it took all day. Now...just think about that on a much larger scale...throw in some oil, supposed WMD's, a compelling story of revenge, throwing away taxpayers money, and thousands of American soldiers (our fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, and nephews) sent to die for something they don't believe in. See...it's kinda like that house party you had.
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Aaron_Ashton
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I would question the legitimacy of the poll being taken. The margin of error is +- 4 points so Obama could be at 53% approval rating or he could be as low as 45%. I wouldn't post this as news since approval ratings don't really reflect the job being done. I may disapprove of something, but as many Americans, I don't have enough information to warrant that disapproval. How about we remain objective and not rate someone on something we don't understand or we inform ourselves like true citizens and care enough to take the time to understand how difficult a job it is to run a country that has so many people making poor decisions?
~Ashton~
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Ihatethemall
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Aaron_Ashton:
How about we remain objective and not rate someone on something we don't understand or we inform ourselves like true citizens
Some of us have been informed for some time now. We are aware. That is why we are pissed.
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Ihatethemall
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inspirationseeker
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It is way to soon to judge. It is natural for the opposition to quickly cling to anything that makes their opponent look like a failure. It has only been a year!!! Anyone who makes a final judgment this early on, whether it is positive or negative, is being irrational in my opinion.
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diabolical44
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this is typical ebb and flow. the polls go up and down in this exact pattern for every president. what I don't understand is why people always want healthcare reform. every election we know it. but every time a president tries to do it, all of a sudden everybody seems against it. people are fucking morons. the president needs to do what he knows is right and not worry about the polls. if he does the right thing, his results will effect the polls instead of letting the polls effect his efforts
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nanac
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For every poll that have him below 50%, there is three that have him above that number..Only the simple minded expect for him to solve such enormous problems, in one year....No other president in History, have faced the multitude of challenges, in their first year in office..A presidential term consist of four years.....Obama is merely a man, he is not super human......The haters in the Republican Party want to see him fail, so they do everything in their power to bring him down..They spread lies and propaganda, about him...These people are vile, demented, and downright vicious.....The Republicans are modern traitors, that cares more about Obama's failure, than America's success!
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nanac
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Ihatethemall
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nanac:
Can you provide links to any of these polls that have been taken within the last week or so? If not you comment is mute
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Ihatethemall
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Manatee_man
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sad face
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Manatee_man
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tome_erau
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You can't say hes below 50% if they got 49% with a 4% margin of error. Thats not how math works.
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tome_erau
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kennymotown
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I love it, the deep thinkers (joke) have already given up on Obama. Not even a year in office funny how this poll keeps bouncing around like a pong game. Entertaining the masses is easy but changing a mindset of millions will take life's lessons and for many lose lessons will be hard.
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kennymotown
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crispyfritters
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Conservatives: grawww! we knew he'd fail! graaaawwwww!
Liberals: It's still all Bush's fault!Same ol' same ol'. The guy's job is to be a filter for Congress. He really doesn't have THAT much control.
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crispyfritters
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crashbangnoises
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a survey of less than 2,000 people is not a true reading of a nation. sorry.
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zphoenixdownz
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i'd have loved to see where john "bomb-bomb iran" mccain would have taken us by now. especially with sarah "going rogue" palin at his side.
wait... no i wouldn't... that's why i voted for the "other" guy.
still got about three years to suffer through, mr. hatethemall. start your 2012 campaign today!
who knows... maybe obama will get reelected and the gop can blame him for the apocalypse or the absence of one, depending on how things go.
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asherp
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE3rJB4Sohc
But I'm not mad at Obama. I knew it was going to be dissapointing, because I actually PAID ATTENTION during his run for president.
Status Quo we can believe in!
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asherp
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asherp
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Trying to win the center is a bullshit strategy. He keeps trying to win over the Republicans. Fuck them. We don't need them.
Americans elected Obama because they thought he offered Change! and Hope!
But they had Obama Goggles on.
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asherp
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kivol
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asherp:
Where do I get that corporate us flag? Second I worship you. hahaha :D Thanks for the good laughs, and speaking truth to power.
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asherp
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Featured In Green Party
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extracrazykiwi2008
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I think he is doing a fine job.
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mgerlach22
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I'm not surprised, but the first comment on this article blamed Bush (along with several others). Isn't that line worn out yet?
The criticism on Obama not "fixing" things is only because he promised it to America with his own words. He promised unemployment to stay below 8% with the stimulus. FAIL. He promised health care reform by August recess. FAIL. He promised Gitmo closed within one year. FAIL. He promised a quick recovery to the recession with government spending. FAIL. And you Obamanites wonder why his approval rating is falling. He said he would fix things, bring about a new era of politics, no more pork in new legislation and he would run the most transparent White House ever. Let's just ignore the signing of the stimulus behind closed doors, voting for healthcare reform on Saturday night, leaving bills online for less than a day before signing them, unemployment at 10.2%, and on and on. He doesn't even need Republican support at all and he still can't follow through on his promises.
And the fakeness that is the Democrat party ensues....
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mgerlach22:
If the Republicans can keep adoring Reagan for everything he did to "fix America" for 30 years, I don't see how unreasonable it is to point out what Bush did to wreck it for 5 (being generous).
This is the dark side of the power everyone attributes to every president, people see him as some kind of messianic figure riding in to save the day. These things take time! The Great Depression lasted 20 years, and we're angry at Obama for solving it in more than 1? Not to mention the fact that Obama *did* end the recession, and now people are going after him for raising unemployment. Fixing inflation is going to hurt employment! Ask any economist, not the guy you saw on FOX or MSNBC, about how inflation and unemployment are related during a recession and he'll tell you the same thing! AARGH!
Has anyone considered that maybe we're all a bunch of tossers who can't be trusted to care for ourselves, much less the entire country?
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mgerlach22:
You may want to check your recent history mgerlach22, I don't care if you like Obama or not, but your GOP pals did fuck us all no matter how you voted. The points you make were done the same way with Dick & Co.
Shame on anybody who believes a politician in an election year, but if you could provide a link from a reputable news source where he promised a "quick recovery to the recession with government spending", I'd like to see it (Murdoch owned properties do not count) - 2 years ago
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brainwashington
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mgerlach22:
...before you go throwing any Coulter crap at me, Clinton fucked us as well by signing our future away to the banks...
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mgerlach22:
"He promised Gitmo closed within one year. FAIL."
well, technically he didn't PROMISE it would be closed within a year, he promised to close it, & ORDERED for it to be closed within a year. & that was in late-Jan, it's now late-Nov, sooooo, lemme tiiiiink, Nov-Jan, ummmmm, yea, he still has a couple months left on that one.
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neodobby
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mgerlach22:
Actually, nedobby...you're wrong.
Listen to the propoganda, or listen to the facts. It helps to know the facts before commenting. This video at :30 proves my point. - 2 years ago
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mgerlach22:
@ 0:25 he says "in the interest of justice, I hereby order" & then @ the mark you pointed out he says "we then provide the process whereby Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from [today]" - as I acknowledged in my original comment, so I don't see how this proves me "wrong", but I do see how any correct calender proves me right.
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mgerlach22:
He said closed within one year. He's now saying it won't happen. Call it what you will...but it's a broken promise, missed deadline, failure to follow through on his word, etc... They're one in the same at this point. Fact his, he missed his own, self-imposed deadline.
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mgerlach22:
the main point that I'm making is that while its now less likely that Gtmo will be closed before the deadline the President ordered (in late January) IT HASN'T BEEN A YEAR YET, so how can you call it a "broken promise" "missed deadline" "failure to follow through on his word" when WE HAVEN'T REACHED THE DEADLINE YET that's all I'm trying to say
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mgerlach22:
neodobby...
All I'm saying is, know the facts. Obama himself said that he would miss the deadline. "Guantanamo -- we had a specific deadline that was missed," Obama told US-based NBC television, in one of a flurry of interviews he gave in Beijing as his Asia tour winds down.
But since you spend time on Current, I could understand why you would never get news like this:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jH_2b37ZZzRUd-53L_Q6jtBW5diA
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"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself" - Joseph Pulitzer
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freal
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He shouldn't be upset by this. He has the job and three more years. And the Republicans don't have a single person that could win the Pillsbury bake-off let alone a major political contest. And I say that as a lifelong Republican.
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freal
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passjay
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All of this is considered since the same thing still takes place that has always taken place on Capital Hill, corporate greed.
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Maeveeo
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To Fix What Happen In 8 Long Years In A few Months , Dealing with a nation full of
people who want to see him fail ( like some other president can do better ) it's
being in ah room full of cooks while some are not cooks but CROOKS trying to make ah statement to say if it wasn't cause of this or that we wouldn't be in this ! - 2 years ago
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No one expected a quick fix to our economy, not even Republicans.
Republicans just expect and want him to fail because he's not a Republican. All in all, his numbers are still better than Bush's, but if one poll doesn't matter none of them do. Perhaps he needs more than a year to fix 8 years of broken economics.
I'm willing to give him more time to actually do something before I call him a lame duck.
As it is now, I will still vote for a 3rd party candidate in 2012.
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I hate to say it but I am very skeptical of him now.
I thought we were in for change but we are still bogged down in corporate thievery. This lobbyist system has got to go...it is like a cancer on us.
I honestly don't think we are going to survive their stealing from us anymore..we are like a leaky boat still. Blackwater...still there...huge drug company profits and no transparency on what they are really doing to us...the FDA..same...same old same old. - 2 years ago
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nanac
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I know several people who use to work for Gallup Poll, and they all say that their poll is bias..
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esserius
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He's full of promises like every other politician. The solution for this ailing nation is not more politicians, it's revolution. End the country and the childish sense of entitlement and the problem will fix itself.
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esserius
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Nettle
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It goes up, it goes down, I don't care.
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Nettle:
thats what she said...
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lordsbassman
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If Sarah Palin was president...
...she would have been impeached by now..
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lordsbassman:
if Sarah Palin was president, I'd be Canadian by now.
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lordsbassman:
. . . Levi would be protected by secret service
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neodobby
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I don't think its too early to evaluate the president's performance, I don't think its fair for Dems to return to trashing Bush every time Obama faces criticism, & I think these polls are credible & important. But with that said, its also important that we look at the former presidents whose ratings have fell faster. Reagan is the Right's darling, & the Left still respects a lot of the work Clinton did; thus indicating that the American people are often slow at adjusting to leaders who attempt to bring about significant change, though with time, the public develops an appreciation for their work.
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neodobby
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neodobby:
there's times when i think he's still campanging and honestly i think americans are tired of it, they gave him the job already and what goes on under his watch will be attributed to his presidency, whether it's a result of the last guy or not..
from day one, you have to show efforts and progress, and you're right, ....every president, r or d will always be evaluated from first day to last day and it's important in the overall picture.
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thecoyote23
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I guess this is just kind of Karma no matter how you feel about Obama. The failing economy helped put him into office but the anger has just carried over to this administration by people who base their opinion solely on their emotional impression instead of on logic. Its just unfortunate that the ignorant masses know little of economics and don't realize that the president is not the end all be all magic solution to every problem. Also, all because its been a year doesn't change the fact that economic policy and action takes a while to bubble throughout the economy. It doesnt matter if people were saying "its only been 3...5...7..9 months" its not going to matter at least for 2 years. All because it's cliche now when people say "its only been" however long doesn't change economic facts.
Even though I fear that no one may be able to dig us out of the hole that badly executed supply-side economic theories have dug us into, it will really be in the conservatives faces if the economy does turn around and people actually get better healthcare by next election.
Something I find really funny is that despite the momentum that people like Sarah Palin has brought to the far right, the GOP is embroiled in a civil war of ideology/direction that it may be their undoing despite the appearance of unity on the surface. I think Sarah Palin is actually doing damage to the right by alienating their middle. I think that is telling of politics today, when the Democrats have conservatives among them, but you will be hard pressed to find a progressive Republican. Just proof that the right is more concerned with dogma and corporate interests than they are reason and logic. Its just too bad that if a GOP candidate does win in 2012, and the economy is still crappy or worse, they will blame Obama even though it will still technically be The Great Bush Depression.
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thecoyote23:
Obviously the president is not the "end all," but he's a guy with a lot of influence who subscribes to Keynes. And that alone makes him bad enough. We'll see how all of these stupid economic policies pan out over the next three years. So far they've worked great. With the free-market unemployment rate being 19-20% what's not to like? First they were going to "create" jobs. How that work out for them? It didn't. Now they're claiming they have "saved" jobs, but at what cost? I would throw a price per job out there, but the recovery.gov figures are being laughed at everyday because they're posting insane things things like 935 jobs were "saved" at business x when, in reality, only 508 people are employed at business x. Interesting... Or, one of my favorites, 30 jobs were "saved or created" with only $761,420 in 15th congressional district in Arizona! That's amazing considering AZ only has 8 congressional districts.
The bottom line is this: there's no way in hell doing the same thing that got us into this catastrophe (printing money, borrowing money, expanding the size of government, expanding our empire, creating artificially low interest rates, etc...) are going to get us out of it. That idea is insane. Will people finally realize it when we see another bust? Well, we've seen it plenty of times in the past and most are still convinced that Keynes was right...so I'm not too hopeful.
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thecoyote23:
Look at the big brain on Bbar! Name dropping Keynes as if you have a firm understanding of Economics. I bet you don't even know what Monetarism is, or have ever heard of Milton Friedman or Paul Volcker for that matter.
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thecoyote23:
Good rebuttal jackass. Read some of my old posts and learn something.
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So both Regan and Clinton had a faster drop in approval ratings, yet they both were reelected to a second term. This means jack squat a lot can happen in 3 years, let me know his approval rating a week before the next election.
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Oh man! what happens when people get scared into thinking polls are accurate?
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jeffissleeping:
First, it comes as the innocent online banter then becomes the dreaded yelling in elementary school gymnasium on Thursday nights
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It just seems like no matter who is President, the American people are going to be mad at him... I forgot the last time a President had high approval ratings for a long time. I was still too young to understand politics in the 90s.
The man has yet to complete his first year in office, faced with some of the biggest problems any newly elected president has ever seen. I'll see his job resume at the end of the 4 year term.
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UrbanGypsy:
I am a student of history, and it seems to me that it wasn't always this way. FDR was a radical left wing president, by far way more left wing than Obama, and the people overwhelmingly adored him. I think the 24/7 news media has created an environment where we will never see that type of respect for the US president ever again. no matter who it is
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UrbanGypsy:
Yep, that was before 24 hour news channels, gotcha journalism and Faux News. Also, all the way through to the Kennedy administration, the media respected the privacy of the President, their families and their personal lives.
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UrbanGypsy:
With all the hate spewed at each other I think both sides have created an utter hate for each other that is just pathetic. Although I admit that much of it comes as a result of utter lying on the part of certain news outlets like Fox News which create an atmospshere of paranoia among conservatives...
Although I cannot discount the whole paranoia that liberals felt when they were under Bush. There were actually many liberals that thought that Bush wanted to become a dictator. Those people are part of the problem.
All these people who liked to throw labels and accusations of fascism and communism at Bush and Obama are part of the problem... I have never used that term to describe my president.
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Every sitting President makes unpopular decisions, then sees their approval rating drop. It's just a matter of timing: When do you want to make upopular decisions. 2 days before you leave office? 15 months in? Eventually: every President has to make some unpopular decisions. Considering the number of these he had to make on his first day alone, I'm surprised it didn't happen any sooner.
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The country is jacked up, but he did promise change. Only time will tell and there wont be any excuses from the Left, Right?
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ChristopherX:
Time has told a lot already. There is no disputing that.
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LowShred
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I still think it's a little too soon to judge. Can we at least give him 18 months?
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LowShred:
At 3 months you guys were only asking for a year. Next thing you all will want....just one more term.
4 and he is outta here
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Ihatethemall
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LowShred:
Its only proof that the majority of the right have no real understanding of economics.
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LowShred:
Haha, what do you mean by "you guys"? I'm not a "OMG OBAMA YAY" guy, I just think that judging someone's performance without it hitting a year is a little ludicrous. Look at the state we're in right now. There is no possible way to fix the mess in 10 months, considering this is a mess that's been 20 years in the making. People are getting angry because they wanted a miracle, and they voted thinking these promises would happen immediately.
Any person with half a brain can see that these things take time. It's a tough job, I couldn't do any better, and I'm pretty sure you couldn't either. Don't like it? Tough titties. You're stuck with it for 4 years.
Let's put it this way. You have to clean up a football field sized bathroom. You're given a q-tip to do it. Because that's what we're looking at.
No one, is going to clean that up very fast. And I mean, no one.
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LowShred:
Yes but he is making it worse. I didnt expect him to fix it. I didnt want him to make it worse.
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Ihatethemall
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hey, how many people here have ever been polled?
My guess is next to zero. Stop reporting on these bullshit, misleading statistics that are geared towards generating cash rather than informing anything substantial.
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theghostofjohnlennon:
he just said "how many people here have ever been polled"
hahahahahahahahahahahaha THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
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theghostofjohnlennon:
Sorry man. Gallop poll. and Reuters reporting it. BULLSHIT???? I think not. His numbers are dropping and thats fact.
- 2 years ago
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Ihatethemall
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thecoyote23
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theghostofjohnlennon:
Considering that conservatives mouths are so big they count as two people.
- 2 years ago
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thecoyote23
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Ihatethemall
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theghostofjohnlennon:
more words of wit and wisdon from the coyote.
- 2 years ago
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Ihatethemall
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neodobby
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theghostofjohnlennon:
@Emporer: that's hilarious, I didn't even catch that!
- 2 years ago
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neodobby
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Cartophilus
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theghostofjohnlennon:
Hey, weren't Gallup the same guys who said Dewey would beat Truman? Just saying, the way polls are run now disproportionately represent the elderly, which is why they always show Americans as angry curmudgeons.
- 2 years ago
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Cartophilus
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theghostofjohnlennon
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theghostofjohnlennon:
The point was not to be in support of or in opposition to Obama.
My point was that these polls are just another way of telling us how to feel instead of creating our own opinions and making our own decisions. They're meant to make money and to generate a spin for the masses. They may be big and influential names, but tell me how they're any different from Fox News or Cnn. It's all a big cartoon.
- 2 years ago
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theghostofjohnlennon
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EmperorThan
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For once Americans can say "This is all that black guy's fault." and not sound racist.
We've come a long way as a nation... *eagle tear*
hahahaha jk it's all still Bush's fault. He fucked things up enough for the next TEN presidents to be left to fix it!!!
- 2 years ago
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EmperorThan
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nhall6
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EmperorThan:
why don't people see that it's neither the president's nor congress' fault that things are the way they are.
obviously, the president is in place to be the scapegoat, effectively blinding sheeple from those who are actually calling the shots.
are you the sheeple, or the people?
- 2 years ago
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nhall6
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thedirtman
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EmperorThan:
America voted for Bush enough to cause the Supreme Court to move to end the election count. Americans wanted the Supreme Court to have that power. Americans are just like people all over the world... that is, influenced by politics, media coverage, the fear of God and the sensationalism of Hollywood. At some point people have to become influenced by boring stuff like truth, education, science or else they are doomed to fail. If enough people believe that the politics of Dick Cheney and xenophobia are healthy, then evolution will certainly destroy mankind. It will happen every time.
- 2 years ago
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thedirtman
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CalPerr
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EmperorThan:
"[Bush] fucked things up enough for the next TEN presidents to be left to fix it!!!"
QFTJust wanted to say he's Mom's white and her parents raised him(in Hawaii where your supposed to be tan).
- 2 years ago
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CalPerr
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dalistuff
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What was destroyed in 8 years can't be fixed in a few months. Hope he doesn't become the lame duck throughout his presidency.
- 2 years ago
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dalistuff
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WhiteNoise
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dalistuff:
They stole 2 elections… the first by perverting the supreme court…nothing happened…Then 9-11 and a war based on a 1000 lies + the treacherous hoisting of a CIA agent… nothing happened…ENRON...zzzzzzzz... they proceeded to shred the constitution, kidnapped imprisoned & tortured the world over…nothing…spied on one & all, fired top US attorneys, destroyed evidence… nada… conducted Katrina’s thinly veiled ethic cleansing …zilch…then took us to the cleaners…
Fear & Greed Corp reigns under the guise of Mindfuck Inc. !
Get a third job ! Sell a vital organ ! Move in a card box by the river, but stop your whining buba ! Victim of your imagination, you suffer from a severe case of "mental recession"... Now, get over it !
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 B.C.
- 2 years ago
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WhiteNoise
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Tomcatt
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dalistuff:
Too late.
- 2 years ago
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Tomcatt