Obama's slavery czar
source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-24/americas-modern-day-slavery-proble...
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CdeBaca was appointed by President Obama, and is the fourth person to hold this job since the position was created by Bill Clinton in 2000. Under Obama, human-rights activists hope efforts to curb trafficking will accelerate.
The United Nations estimates that 12.3 million individuals exist in forced labor worldwide. The State Department says as many as 800,000 victims are trafficked across international borders each year, a number that’s grown with the recession. Break down the statistics and you find a 5 year old sold into prostitution in Nicaragua; kids who should be in primary school instead of baking bricks in Pakistan or mining gold in Africa; Burmese dissidents kidnapped and smuggled away to work on fishing vessels. In fact, human trafficking is the third-largest black market in the world, right behind drugs and weapons. And it’s not just out there. As many as 17,500 enslaved people are brought into the United States each year, and about 70 percent of them are women trafficked into forced sex work.
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realitychick
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he looks like a child molester. czar, my ass!
- 2 years ago
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realitychick
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chaoscontrol
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“Whenever you have vulnerable people and greed, you have a recipe for slavery.”
No shit. It's called WAGE SLAVERY and every American is subject to it.
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chaoscontrol
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CalPerr
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chaoscontrol:
end the fed
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CalPerr
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rwahrens
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chaoscontrol:
Uh, wage slavery is not what you think it is.
Wage slavery was practiced by large mining concerns in Appalachia, in which miners lived in company towns, bought their food and all necessities from the "company store", and basically were just slaves that could not either improve their lot or leave due to what they owed the company.
That is not what the article is about, nor is it anything to compare with the average American's financial condition.
Please, learn to use google, it's your friend.
- 2 years ago
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rwahrens
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TasteHi
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I don't think that this anti-trafficking department (if they're actually even working on these cases) is unaware of what the inner workings' are.
The fact is, there are reasons for engaging and discontinuing illegal activities. All illegal activities have one thing in common. The interference of effective productivity within a societies boundaries.
Pay close attention to everything that is deemed "illegal", believe me the top priority on a list of illegalities is how rampant the effect of said activity cripples productivity.
For example say we have a country of 200 people, in this hypothesis we have Widespread use of a drug that cuts your populations life-span down to half. (%75) VS Not so widespread abduction (%25). Where will you allocate most of your resources?
Practically speaking, it's easier to head off the drug problem therefore immediately saving (%75) of your workforce.
However the gov't has, at its' dispense, a task force that is solely dedicated to human trafficking...but, what is their task? Is it to merely point out what's happening? Is it to figure out what the cracks are and actually find effective solutions and even implement these solutions?
Taxes are actually a good way of filtering out how someone is making their money but, not only are our taxes being handled by a third party so that these things continue to fall through the cracks, but the black market doesn't always trade in currency either.
So what are they trading in? As we've come to learn no system survives without its' method of currency.
IMO anything stolen( cars, guns, technology.....),and anything addicting and liquid-able in the black market.
So, who can solve that?
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TasteHi
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CalPerr
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I believe the real issue is workers' rights. If people were payed and treated fairly for all work, that is necessary for a modern world, the market for slavery would not exist. This isn't the type of issue that can be erased. It can only be preempted generations in advance or handled in a case by case basis. The first is seemingly impossible but undeniable effective. While the second is very practical but only temporary and largely inconsequential.
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CalPerr
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freecrack
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obamas czar? hes our czar just as the drug czar is our czar and so on and so forth. whats with the hard on for the word czar
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freecrack
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ScorpioGee
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freecrack:
You know I'm sick of another word. I reality shows they keep saying 'competition'. I was like--"Can someone give these people a thesaurus. You can say contest or something else? lol
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ScorpioGee
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CalPerr
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freecrack:
Personally i think 'Slave Lord' and 'Drug King' would sound way cooler and make more sense to most Americans.
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CalPerr
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EmperorThan
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Where are they coming up with these bullshit numbers out of their ass by the way? Are they confusing 'consensual prostitution' with 'sex slavery'???
I seem to remember last month a six month operation in the UK failed to find a SINGLE sex slave.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/20/government-trafficking-enquiry-fails
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EmperorThan
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ScorpioGee
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EmperorThan:
A slave is not going to say outright they're a slave.
There's also working slaves. Usually single immigrant women who came in the US without an support system and they're usually the first in the family to immigrate into this country. I remember hearing a story of a illegal immigrant in NYC who was forced to work in a home by the housewife--who was married to some prominent personality--with little to no pay. If she complained the housewife threatened she would call INS and get her deported back to her home country.
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ScorpioGee
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CalPerr
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EmperorThan:
Sex slavery exists every where in the world.
Police in my area will catch a 15 pound shipment of heroine and call it a victory when half the force knows that a 250 pound shipment just went by.
One busts' results are not that important on the larger scale of time in the area or the rest of the world in that instant. - 2 years ago
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CalPerr
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Incredulous
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EmperorThan:
well shame on the UK, because the people who are trolling for sex slaves to exploit have no problem finding them.
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Incredulous
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EmperorThan
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"“We tend to say, slavery: bad; 1865: taken care of,” he tells me"
He misquoted Mr. Mackay. "Slavery is bad ...mmmmk"
- 2 years ago
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EmperorThan
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EmperorThan
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My God, the bleeding heart Republicans on Fox News were RIGHT! Obama is sending dissenters to slave camps or gulags instated by the new SLAVERY CZAR!!! *head explodes*
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EmperorThan
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QV
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With all the other czars this one seems apropriate as bho wants to enslave the American people.
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QV
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phillyphil
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a recent study shows that we have the resources and ability to feed 9 billion people, TODAY! this is done with 75% smaller scale farms in the US and abroad and without corp GMOs. we have the resources, and the room, just not the priorities to get everyone healthy and feed. the system we live in needs to keep slavery to increase the bottom line of those on the top and needs to divide us to help us forget how powerful we are....
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phillyphil
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Toughth
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Traficing in human lives is wrong under any circumstance. This is an issue that should be a cornerstone of our national policy. Peace at any price is a montra that our society has existed for many years. The line has to be drawn someplace, and not just in the sand. If we discover slavers in this nation the punishment should be the same as a kidnapper who kills his victim, or a rapist who leaves a shattered person and family behind. The traficer should be put to death for destroying lives and society for profit by slaving.
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Toughth
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CalPerr
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Toughth:
I'm generally against the death penalty, however I agree with all your other ideas. But I want to be clear if we were to execute rapists and murders then slavers should be right there with them.
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CalPerr
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LowShred
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this been going on since, oh I dunno, forever? I'm all for freedom, but I highly doubt that slavery is going to stop anytime soon.
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LowShred
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phillyphil
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LowShred:
thats the spirit!
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phillyphil
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CalPerr
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LowShred:
*sigh*
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CalPerr
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Maven_25
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LowShred:
So, really why bother--well, maybe if you're 5-year-old girl was kidnapped--you might think otherwise...
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Maven_25
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Toughth
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LowShred:
If this person does not want to fight for the rights of the oppressed we have failed as a democracy. Our own children are being kidnapped and put into sweat shops and brothels in other nations. I have heard people say that even the bible points out that there are masters and slaves. This idea sickens me. To think that someone wants to use religion as an excuse to own someone else makes me think that we have gone down the wrong road as a society. This is the one idea that should be crushed worldwide by any means, like a squashed bug slavery is not a right just because it has been around for many centuries.
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Toughth
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Joseph_Eberhardt
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I hope that this person will approve my emancipation request and help me free myself from those that are using oppression and force to limit my freedom and unlawfully sieze my property / fruits of my labor. Sounds like a slave to me right??
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Joseph_Eberhardt
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unclecharlie
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Jeez- Obama keeps proving himself to be an absolute incompetent idiot who loves spending other peoples money to try to "save the world." We need more damned czars like we need more......clones of Nancy Pelosi
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unclecharlie
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UrbanGypsy
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unclecharlie:
Hey... Dubya had more czars (47) than Obama does (32) so I don't know why you weren't complaining then...
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UrbanGypsy
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unclecharlie:
you go in there and see if you can do a better job cleaning up after generations of Bush idiocy unclecharlie.
George W. Bush was and remains one of the most incompetent persons ever to hold public office, even moreso than his would be successor Sarah Palin, and if you can't see that, you probably have your head stuffed somewhere most people can't bend over far enough to get theirs.
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Incredulous
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s_peak
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Simply put... there are too many people on the planet. This is a symptom of a larger issue... and these symptoms will get worse if we continue our deplorable and idiotic expansion as a species.
Make room, make room!
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s_peak
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CarolineS
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s_peak:
I believe we have the natural resources to fully feed, house and clothe everyone on earth, we arn't going about it the right way.
Don't be angry at the people reproducing,it's our right to want children. everything is the governments and corporations faults. - 2 years ago
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CarolineS
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phillyphil
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s_peak:
a recent study shows that we have the resources and ability to feed 9 billion people, TODAY! this is done with 75% smaller scale farms in the US and abroad and without corp GMOs. we have the resources, and the room, just not the priorities to get everyone healthy and feed. the system we live in needs to keep slavery to increase the bottom line of those on the top and needs to divide us to help us forget how powerful we are....
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phillyphil
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CalPerr
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s_peak:
Stop being a hypocrite and kill yourself.
Unless you are joking. In which case just shut up cause slavery isn't funny. - 2 years ago
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CalPerr
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samthesixth
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Sudan.
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samthesixth
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csmonut
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Kidnapping for forced slavery, and taking advanyage of people who are in desperate situations has got to be one of the most under reported stories going around the world, along with other atrocities/genocides people do not want to hear about.
It is forbidden that it be reported at large so people become aware of it. No..it has to hidden in reports people don't normally read.
Deportation is one of the many threats and abuses used. Perhaps if a country offered sanctuary to a person who was one of these slaves and helped bring down the buyer, and advertised all over in the papers and in the news media, it would help curb some of this. - 2 years ago
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csmonut
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nursediesel
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All the ways to get humans into the country should be stringently patrolled. It's a dirty, dangerous job but it has to be stopped. To think others benefit from kidnapping and trafficking in the use of other human beings in this high tech detection age is just a sin against humanity. We must make it easier for those who know of this happening to safely report it so it can be corrected and those punished for their felonious behavior.
It has been around since the beginning of time but should be stopped in our immediate information age. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel
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thewarnerla
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I hear what your saying, but when you start to give so much education--don't people start to feel entitled to certain "better" jobs. There will always be a low class, or servant style class until everyone is taught how to farm their own food and sustain their lives. I would also mention that no one teaches this type of education to kids. Instead they teach kids about how great Obama is already and how he won a peace prize and we are still at war. I think that your story brings awareness to a good issue.
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thewarnerla
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thewarnerla
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thewarnerla:
the person who posted this argues that kids need education. please read the article again and edit your first comments.
Education is needed on multiple levels. How do you report known trafficking? What will these people do once they are not in forced labor? What are the costs? What are the trade off?
All these questions are currently being answered by this guy Obama appointed, and I promise you that they don't do anything about it today, because a majority of the people benefit quite a bit from this cheap labor. I'm not saying that I'm not against it, but I'm trying to help ignorant people--like you understand what else needs to be discussed to fully solve the issue.
Are you ready to pay $10 more for everything you buy because they have the same workers comp rights as an "American" worker. I didn't think so.
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thewarnerla
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rwahrens
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thewarnerla:
Maybe you should reread it. Nothing is said about what you allege, but they talk about the problem and how it is under-reported and not taken seriously at all worldwide.
Certainly at some point, the exploited folks WILL need to be educated, should they be released from their forced labor, but that is as true of 90% of the world's population anyway.
So your point is lost by your misunderstanding of the point of the story, which is NOT the necessary education of anyone, but is the fact that slavery is a huge problem worldwide and needs more attention.
What education is needed is, in the subject of this story, to educate THE PUBLIC in what human trafficking is, where it takes place, how to recognize it, and how it can be eradicated.
Plus, your stupid anti-Obama comments just detract from your post and kill what little credibility you may have had.
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rwahrens
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thewarnerla:
"Are you ready to pay $10 more for everything you buy because they have the same workers comp rights as an "American" worker. I didn't think so."
Well maybe if we took out the profit part that corporations feel they HAVE to make, clothes would be a lot cheaper, ofcourse that would never happen, but i felt you were aiming your blame at the people who buy these cheap clothes, which is part deserved, but corporations are the ones who enslave with low wages, then add on value for maximum profit. They are the ones who should all be burned at the steak.
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CarolineS
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ScorpioGee
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thewarnerla:
I just want to point this out.
"There will always be a low class, or servant style class until everyone is taught how to farm their own food and sustain their lives."
If you brush up your history slavery been around during the BC era. Even when agriculture was establish roughly 10,000 years ago--and it's an relatively new when you think about it. Slavery was still happening. In fact in agriculture the people taking care of the farms--during the dark ages/Renaissance in Europe were Indentured servants to the kingdoms in the area and they were made to produce for them. During America's younger years plantation workers, farmers and people with aristocratic ties had slaves and indentured servants.
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ScorpioGee
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Toughth
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thewarnerla:
There is not a excuse in the world to say that a child can be taken from his or her family just because someone does not want to pay a little more for a shirt. Slavery is evil. That is the plain and simple truth. I bet the ones that are anti abortion are also the ones who think that slavery is none of our buisness because it has gone on for thousands of years. It is not right to subdue anouther human beings freedom just for the pleasure and profit of a few because they hold the wealth and power.
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Toughth
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thewarnerla:
What the crap are you talking about? Are you actually defending slavery? You're one messed up dude.
There are 2 categories of questionable labor:
1) Labor that doesn't meet US standards: voluntary child labor, voluntary labor at places that would make OSHA vomit, etc
2) Involuntary slave laborYour arguments make sense about the first category although they would still call your character into question. But you're using them about the second category and that's simply disgusting.
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DougChristian
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thewarnerla:
In my opinion, you COMPLETELY missed the point of this article, as well as the intent of the person who posted it. If you want to point out a need for education, you might start with yourself and learn how to actually comprehend what you are reading.
The point is,
“Whenever you have vulnerable people and greed, you have a recipe for slavery.”
Can we get rid of greed? Probably not, unless we also want to get rid of people. It's not like you can outlaw greed, societies have tried that before, and it just doesn't work.
You seem to be suggesting that we can't get rid of vulnerable people either, and you are probably right. But I don't think we want to get rid of the vulnerable people. They tell the rest of us who we really are. We can gauge our own humanity by the way we treat the most vulnerable in our society, and that includes animals. You can slam Obama all you want, but here is a leader, finally, who is willing to take a look at the way we treat our vulnerable, and frankly, I think it is long overdue. The Bush administration flaunted greed and manipulated the economies and laws of the world to make the world a better place for greed to thrive. The end result of that has not surprisingly produced more slavery. It is a rather simple equation, and it should be no surprise that someone as simple-minded as W was able to take that equation and wreak the kind of global havoc he did.
We are not going to be able to eliminate or legislate away greed, but we can step up and do our part to make the vulnerable less vulnerable. We are capable of creating a safer world for the vulnerable. Slavery is a mirror that forces humanity to reckon with its own nature. When slavery thrives, so does greed, and the first step towards ameliorating that situation is to look in the mirror, recognize what we see, and begin to do something about it. We are all guilty, but we are also all capable of making it better, every single day, in countless ways.
“Whenever you have vulnerable people and greed, you have a recipe for slavery.”
That is the point of the article.
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