Community | November 28, 2009 | 28 comments

9/11: Flight 77 Aircraft Hijack Impossible

source: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197905-9-11-Flight-77-Aircraft-Hijack-Impossible

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Vierotchka
No Boeing crashed into the Pentagon and no onboard hijack took place. This doesn't rule out the plane being commandeered from the ground by overiding its computer system... if indeed there was an actual Flight 77 flying that day at all.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197905-9-11-Flight-77-Aircraft-Hijack-Impossib...

Flight deck door closed for entire flight

Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:111 in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers...". However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?

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28 comments // 9/11: Flight 77 Aircraft Hijack Impossible

  • CalgarC
  • Stentor
  • isnamthere
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
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    • Stentor:

      Debunking conspiracy theorists

      Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several, wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. “The CIA killed Hendrix,” “The Pope had John Lennon murdered,” “Hitler was half werewolf,” “Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone,” etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.

      So its hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is—sadly—a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis.

      One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they “hate our freedoms.”

      Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell.

      Normally I don’t even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

      These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading on airline stocks—linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours ,crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do.

      The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposturous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions.
      http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/10/064.html

    • 2 years ago
  • isnamthere
  • sidewaysclyde
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      sidewaysclyde  

    • Yikes. I wish we knew the real truth. Not just the events that took place but the people involved and the avenues that they used to achieve them. I am not hopeful that the whole truth will ever be fully recognized.

    • 2 years ago
  • sespian
  • jubal
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      jubal  

    • Great question. They couldn't have is the obvious answer. 9/11 was not entirely the work of foreign terrorists. Several homegrown terrorists in DC were in on it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  

    • So many unanswered questions speak volumes about who is really in charge . It sure ain't us or the government (which is supposed to be us) . It ain't even the terrorist , who like to blab about what and how they did it . They are pawns as much as we . The worse our economy gets , the more of us will start acting like "terrorists" . See how easy that is ? Pawns . Just like that guy at fort hood . I think the "corporate overlords " as kenny so descriptively put it , fear their days are numbered . I have noticed a shift , from top down power structures to lateral ones . wiwk , utube and current are partly lateral . Natural as breathing for people to do this , and fun too . No place for overlords .

    • 2 years ago
  • kennymotown
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    • artemis6:

      Bingo! artemis6, they are afraid of us and we now know it! I remember even though it was a sad day in Oklahoma city even the IRS was turned into a bunch of polite collectors. The government is us but we have foolishly handed it over to the international industrialist ie the corporate overlords. They have a chance to keep control if they would just give up more than crumbs of the pie. But they are so greedy we now have the upper hand, it's just a matter of time my friend.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
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    • artemis6:

      Yes ! They do not want the majority of us to realize this . Perhaps they wish to force us into the terrorist role . Because they are so threatened and would find an excuse helpful to try and destroy us . Subterfuge for their lust for power . The power of "we" is greater than "me" . Let us hope they don't waste the place before they go . Those who cannot adapt , die out .

    • 2 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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    • WHY CAN'T EVERYBODY ASSIMIMILATE WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO THINK ANYWAY ;)

      TRIVIALIZE THE HORROR & MOVE ON PEOPLE, NOTHING TO SEE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA AFTER ALL SO EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE ...

      My bottom line on the 9-11 subject is pretty straight forward...

      Just for the fun of it, can someone ask Obama, as Michael Moore did with W, to see the tape shot by one of the numerous cameras around the Pentagon that were confiscated on 9-11 ?

      Hey, I love a good 757 crash as much as a good caper so I can't loose...
      & I would LOOOOVE the see that pesky 9-11 conspiracy be put to pasture once & for all so we can all go our merry way ;)

      Let's see how facts, logic & science fares in America…

      Meanwhile... Have a ‘magic bullet’ !

      "We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle

      Again & beside all the hoopla and mystery rapped into a enigma paradigm...

      I'm just having a little problem in thinking that ALL THOSE PEOPLE are terminaly stupid ignorant assholes loonies !
      http://patriotsquestion911.com/

      Specially the 200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials who should know a thing or two about the way the institutions to which they dedicated their lives...

      So, yeah, I think its fair to say we haven't been to the bottom of this & since we are relentlessly being told that "9-11 CHANGED EVERYTHING" shouldn't we investigate this in a proper manner once & for all ?

      ...or maybe this is no time for questions & dissent for we have a war to win ;)

    • 2 years ago
  • Sacrament_Ov_Impurity
  • Chapisbored
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      Chapisbored  

    • These sources are shady. I was reading into them as far as I could go and couldn't find some of the things it says here. Im not calling bullshit, however, on account of the fact that i'm to lazy to look any longer.

    • 2 years ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • The evidence is pilling up, do you think that our corporate overlords will actually allow another investigation? It's time to form a civilian board of inquiry and get it together quickly before we spend another trillion dollars on the military industrial complex.

    • 2 years ago
  • sespian
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      sespian  
    • kennymotown:

      As of the end of 2008 the wars have cost us $3 TRILLION in expenses and obligations. I'm not sure how much 2009 has added to this number. Does anyone have those numbers?

    • 2 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
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    • More...
      9-11 Did they let it happen?
      http://current.com/items/91550708_9-11-did-they-let-it-happen.htm

      "Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom." -- Fredrich August von Hayek (1899-1992), Nobel Laureate of Economic Sciences 1974

      “Look who the corporate media is today. The beneficiaries of 9/11 – the biggest beneficiaries have been Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, the Carlyle Group, Boeing, Halliburton, the military industrial contractors, each of those have had 300 to 400 percent increase in their stock value in the last five years, and when we look at those groups and the memberships of their boards, Carlyle has someone sitting on the New York Times board, Bechtel sits on NBC, Boeing sits on ABC, Halliburton sits on ABC, Lockheed Martin sits on Gannett. They’re interconnected.” - Peter Phillips / Project Censored
      Top 25 Censored Stories for 2010
      http://current.com/items/91167719_top-25-censored-stories-for-2010.htm

      “Military justice is to justice what military music is to music“ - Groucho Marx

      … & JFK, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy, the Warren commission "suicide" roll and pretty much anybody of significance that stood up to the FBI, CIA, NSA, GOP and asked to be counted… snuffed !

      And let’s not forget the bloody trail our USA foreign policy has left all over the world since WW2…. Ask John Perkins ! http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/9/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man

      America is one sad sick puppy indeed !

      “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous“ - Carl Sagan

      "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day" - Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906

      Monty Python's Killing Joke ?
      http://current.com/items/91214178_monty-pythons-killing-joke.htm

      “Conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth.” – Gore Vidal

    • 2 years ago
  • reactionforce
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
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    • Holes galore in the "official" narrative indeed...

      A key British official reminds us of the forgotten anthrax attack
      BY GLENN GREENWALD
      http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/27/anthrax/index.html

      What makes this particularly significant is that the anthrax attack is unresolved and uninvestigated. The FBI claimed last year that it had identified the sole perpetrator, Bruce Ivins, but because Ivins is dead, they never had the opportunity -- or the obligation -- to prove their accusations in any meaningful tribunal. The case against Ivins is so riddled with logical and evidentiary holes that it has generated extreme doubts not merely from typical government skeptics but from the most mainstream, establishment-revering, and ideologically disparate sources.

      Just consider some of the outlets and individuals who have stated unequivocally that the FBI's case against Ivinis is unpersausive and requires a meaningful investigation: The Washington Post Editorial Page; The New York Times Editorial Page; The Wall St. Journal Editorial Page; the science journal Nature; Senators Pat Leahy, Arlen Specter and Charles Grassley; physicist and Congressman Rush Holt, whose New Jersey district was where the anthrax letters were sent; Dr. Alan Pearson, Director of the Biological and Chemical Weapons Control Program at the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation; and a vast array of scientific and legal experts in the field.

      Here we have one of the most consequential political events of the last decade at least -- a lethal biological terrorist attack aimed at key U.S. Senators and media figures, which even the FBI claims originated from a U.S. military lab. The then-British Ambassador to the U.S. is now testifying what has long been clear: that this episode played a huge role in enabling the attack on Iraq.

      Even our leading mainstream, establishment-serving media outlets -- and countless bio-weapons experts -- believe that we do not have real answers about who perpetrated this attack and how. And there is little apparent interest in investigating in order to find out. Evidently, this is just another one of those things that we'll relegate to "the irrelevant past," and therefore deem it unworthy of attention from our future-gazing, always-distracted minds.

      "We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
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      samthesixth  

    • I was on Route 395 (the highway that runs next to the Pentagon) that day. There was a large shadow overhead, and then one hell of an explosion.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
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    • samthesixth:

      Black box data of flight 77 obtained through the Freedom of Information Act demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that it flew several hundred feet above the Pentagon. No passenger plane could possibly punch through six fortified walls of the pentagon leaving a perfectly circular hole that is much smaller than the circumference of a Boeing 757 - only a DU-tipped missile (Global Hawk) could have done that.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • isnamthere
  • samthesixth
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      samthesixth  
    • samthesixth:

      I never said a plane hit the explosion. From where I was on 395 I could not see that side of the Pentagon. I did see a large shadow, that in the DC area are normally caused by planes. I then heard a loud explosion.

    • 2 years ago
  • bushama
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      bushama  

    • Very interesting, Ive always wondered why they dont have video of the plane coming at the pentagon, it is one of the most guarded buildings on the planet and Im not talking about those crappy videos they released. Surely they have video of the plane from a distance

    • 2 years ago
  • sespian
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      sespian  

    • Obviously there are many unanswered questions regarding the "official" 9/11 investigation. How can there be such wide spread apathy toward these unanswered questions, when we are still fighting wars supposedly because of this event? Keep in mind the amount of dollars that is disappearing into the black hole we call the pentagon has ballooned since this video was made.

    • 2 years ago
  • r3sidual
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      r3sidual  
    • sespian:

      Great link Sespian. I guess the media doesn't think $2 Trillion dollars is that important when US debt is over $11 Trillion. We need to be adamant about sharing news with our circle via YouTube, Facebook, MySpace, blogs, Twitter, etc. Share people and maybe some of this will get through the barrage of reality & entertainment shows.

    • 2 years ago
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