Scientists grow pork meat in a lab, annoying PETA people to disappear soon

Soylent Green was processed human flesh. Eww you guys are sick...

Yes, but can you see where this is going? (I'll never forget the horror of that movie ending!)

"The fact of the matter is that this world has way too many people in it and all these people have to be fed."

The amount of land needed to produce one kilo of meat is at least ten times the amount of land needed to produce the equivalent in vegetable protein, so meat eaters deprive many of basic foods.

"No, people who eat meat don't smell like cadavers."

They do indeed smell like cadavers, as any vegan will confirm.

"Much of the mass of humanity won't give up meat no matter how much you insult the omnivores so scientists have to come up with ways of feeding our growing population."

It is not by growing lab meat that this will be achieved. Only the wealthy eat meat, the poor cannot afford it and often don't even have access to it.

"They do indeed smell like cadavers, as any vegan will confirm. "

My sister and nephew have been vegans for the last 10 years. They have never told me nor anyone else in my family that we smell like cadavers. I'll have to double check with them when I next see them.

"It is not by growing lab meat that this will be achieved. Only the wealthy eat meat, the poor cannot afford it and often don't even have access to it."

I doubt the illegal immigrants on the corner near my office, who order burritos de carne or de pollo from the Salvadoran lady in the Burrito Express truck would agree that they are wealthy. Nor would the Cubans or Chinese still living under communist governments be considered wealthy by anyone's standards, yet meat is a part of their food cultures, granted poorer cultures may not have as much of it as Americans or Europeans. From the days homosapiens discovered fire and developed rocks into spears we have been omnivores. Veganism is a choice and one the masses who shop at Shoppers Food Warehouse are not likely to make.

Wrong - even test-tube meat smells of cadaver, and people who eat meat smell of corpses.

Grass fed beef is actually healthier because it contains Omega 3s found in the green grass. Factory farmed meat (which I try really hard not to buy) has lots of Omega 6s from the corn and feed and fat in the animal so it's unhealthier. And as long as a person eats it in moderation it is not necessarily unhealthy.

I dont think its ok to give 5 year olds things that depict murder. Yes its their parents job to tell them about the food they eat but I think that things like that at a young age can be emotionally traumatizing. Yes they should hear it. I dont think it should be from PETA and if it is, the way they went about it wasnt right.

It only takes one emotional trauma to cause PTSD. It is easily spotted by a person who had it, no PhD required.

Many adults have varying degrees of muscle-wasting diseases, such as myself having Myasthenia Gravis. Plus that levels of DHEA and the thyroid hormones begin dropping soon at age 25, my own thyroid gland actually having been inherited from the wrong parent. I therefore had no thyroid hormones for energy, meaning my friend that my organs do not have energy levels to function very well since birth and my immune system was rendered dysfunctional.

If I was to stop eating all meat I might die. You wouldn't want THAT on your flame-seared adult conscience now, would you???

I will reply to your filthy trash mouth and hatred. You can't say squat behind a bush about my health or what I can survive on; and the thyroid disease I have is both hyper and hypo, something doctors have so far decided to leave an unopened can of worms.

I'm not your mother but go wash yer mouth out with soap now before the trash spreads all over your vegan face.

It will rapidly be phased out.

They'll attack and chomp on us for a change

No, Soylent Green was processed human flesh

I know, there is something specifically unappetizing about that picture, as if that Frankenstein pork slab is going to start growing teeth on top and try to munch the hand that wants to eat it

I didnt know it was carcinogenic.

It depends on how much you eat and how its cooked. Factory farmed beef is higher in Omega 6s which can contribute to lower immunity/greater opportunity for cancer growth. (Grass fed beef is higher in Omega 3s, which is the good stuff, because the cows are eating grass, which is a natural food source for them.) Meat that is cooked on the grill and charred can also be carcinogenic. For an excellent reference on food and how it affects cancers, read "Anti Cancer, A New Way of Life" by David Servan-Schrieber.

You missed a tremendous opportunity here to nail Vierotchka because she made a blanket statement totally without any links & sources. Besides, carcinogens usually take a long time to do their work.

You need to be more AGGRESSIVE. Fight, fight for what is RIGHT! Don't let V. get away with pistol whipping you around just because she's also female. Step in to it, off the balls of your feet, lead with the right. Put the Jack Dempsey to the jaw.

I don't "nail" people when I respond to their comments. The problem with a great many of these arguments is that they come from people who are so emotionally tied up with their beliefs that they won't accept someone else's opinion, or they are so sure that they are right they resort to dramatic tactics to prove their point. I don't need to be more "aggressive" or "fight" - I consider that to be a major problem with us as a species. And what is "right" is, sometimes, only a matter of your opinion.

The consumption of meat, its health affects, its cruelty, its evolution and its necessity in order to feed an overpopulated planet is too volitile a topic for everyone to agree on, especially since it's an emotional topic for many. Intelligent discourse, not verbal boxing, is the only way to foster tolerance.

I don't gain anything from nailing people either. If that's all I had to do to stay occupied I'd be sorely tempted to jump off my balcony. The only reason I'm here on Current is to help others in several "specialties" I'm experienced in.

I'm beginning to re-consider that decision. People want links to what I'm saying when what I'm saying is stuff I've discovered on my own. No one has written it anywhere. There is nobody to reference. I get tired of being insulted.

I'm beginning to think people must think everything worth knowing has been already written down somewhere, like they thought once at the Patent Office.... I have no need to be pistol whipped. I'm backing out away from this table more and more, so I'm sure that'll make the know it alls very happy I reckon.

I mean, after all, I didn't go to college so I must be a stupid lump.

I, too, had to back away from a discussion when someone got threatening just because I expressed support for Israel. I only comment ocassionally on Current now. Sometimes I'll make a comment and someone will shoot back some kind of "proof" as to why my opinion is "invalid". Look it's my opinion. If you don't like it, oh well. No one should attack anyone else on these posts but unfortunately human aggression has to go somewhere. Be kind to animals but not to the other guy who doesn't agree with you...

My sister and nephew are vegan for animal rights issues. I understand the cause. But I'm also passive-aggressive so I can see what else is going on here.

hahahaha Well, I actually eat extremely little meat myself but "the other guy" assumed I was a buffalo hunter and clubber of baby seals. But my body with the thyroid from Mom's genes not giving me energy -for anything, even brain power- I found that Burger King Whoppers were good for me. When I drove a truck they were easy to snake into and park. So were McD's but I didn't really like their burgers. I did like stopping in the morning and getting an Egg McMuffin and a apple something or other.

I weigh 270 pounds and it isn't all fat. You may be smaller so if so you can cut out meat and probably get by just fine. If I don't once in a while get some I'm not doing so well. But even though I'm twice the weight of many people I don't eat that much for two. My metabolism has always been skirting a degree above hypothermia.... and any time you add a little wind chill to that my blood gets cooled and hits my brain and I'm darn near half ways into brain dead.

So like this other poster went into a rant well, if my Mom blah blah blah so what?! My doctor said in 1990 what I have is very rare. Very few people can know about it much less CRITICIZE. But they sure as hell think they can because "they know somebody that". Well, no they don't.

Mom was one half Hopi and raging Indian blood, also she was hyperthyroid, so what I has was a fully functioning hyperactive thyroid pumping my blood full of hormones I was in rejection of and they were poisoning me 24/7. But you know what it is right? People have been saturated with hatred towards anyone claiming to be "special", so when anyone points out how they actually are rather UNIQUE they get shot full of rifle bullets at dawn.

I don't need garbage thrown at me. I'm a Christian best I can be anyway but being baptized nobody told me I had to lay down and be everybody's doormat. My own life made me a doormat. People could somehow sense I was weak deep inside and they took advantage every angle possible.

Anyway, like I said, by my size my little amt of meat eating almost makes me a vegan. My body doesn't burn fat calories. I've been this way all my life. Doctors, knowing I have this metabolic shortcoming, they shove a diet tip sheet in my face, so if they had authorized a little waistline reduction to get some bodyweight off my smashed ankle & foot (1989) I wouldn't be on disability checks now.

And I figure there must be several million just like me, waylaid and benched for the convenience and steady paychecks to doctors. I quit going to em for 4 straight years. They didn't male a dime off me or my Medicare, heck with em. I put my life in danger doing that tho. Without the thyroid pills I put my heart into defibrillation and irregular heartbeat.

They said I would die. They also said that when I quit Lithium in 2002. 8 years later I'm doing pretty well. At least I don't have their meds destroying my brain and motor cortex anymore... like they're still doing to un-numbered millions of others.

Sometimes I post tongue in cheek so I apologize for raising your ire.

No problem. Sounds like you have alot on your plate, even if it's not meat ;)

Bombastinator has accused me of being "grandiose". What few people know about my living a life near hypothermia is that a cold brain is a smarter brain... a little known tidbit I came across in my research once. But I do my share of big boners just like anybody else.

But my unique cold brain decided to switch on some years ago and began switching on more too. That was when I began "seeing" many answers to the energy shortage. I give credit to God because he looked after me the many decades of traumas and concussions and freezing darn near to death once in a cold truck at a rest stop. I woke up in severe convulsions that time.

It isn't easy to warm up when your body doesn't burn fat. I know who butters my toast.

It isn't boasting or bragging to understand finally after 50+ YEARS what all happened to me. My Dad died of many the same issues I went on to have. I made it my intense business to find out what stopped my brilliant Dad from having a better life, not knowing that I was going to repeat his experience so closely.

The Bible says "the blessing of God, that is what makes rich" and so it has happened. I know how to make engines that defeat the "laws" of entropy and the three "laws" of thermodynamics. Bombast laughs at that too. hehehehe People can stay stunted midgets if that's their choice.

My car engine is a mechanical heart design + a turbocharger design. What has really surprised me is it's so simple. Someone should've designed it decades ago. It doesn't make me a genius to design something so simple. It escapes the THERMO laws because it doesn't make any excess Heat, and those laws ONLY apply to engine systems that over-generate heat.

And because it doesn't heat up a lot the metals don't expand & contract so much, meaning it lasts over 100 years PLUS since the metals aren't changing size -any automotive engineer will tell ya this one- the pistons and other moving parts can be matched to a lot closer tolerances.

"Entropy" states that all systems degrade. That part isn't quite true. My systems constantly begin a fresh new cycle, having exhausted every scrap of energy, so that when the new cycle begins it starts with another 100% "load" of Potential Energy, a law of this Universe.

We could have a vastly Energy Surplus world inside of 2-3 years if people would cut the blasted UMBILICAL CORDS and decide to grow the heck up.

If they don't do it Jesus will. It won't be a long time coming either. They can laugh all day long at me, call me names, but the engine systems I've given them FREE FOR THE BUILDING -but they've decided to hyena laugh exactly like the politicians knew they would ditto the OIL COMPANIES- the real people they are laughing at is their own self, their own families, their own health and their own crude oil-destroyed world.

Jesus knew they would laugh too. Laughter isn't a bad thing usually but this kind of laughter is an angel magnet, laughing that identifies the laughers.

Yep. But it had a few perks. Many down sides, but the perks were real big. As Mom used to say "it'll come out in the wash". This world is due for a bath.

thank you for posting that.

Actually pretty good.

Why does everything man-made have to be considered "evil"?

Maybe you should stop living indoors, because Mother Nature never "intended" that.

"Even though we live indoors we still live on Earth."

Even though it's grown in a lab, it's still pork meat.

"But that has nothing to do with putting unnatural things into your body."

All right. Let's start by banning all unnatural medicines and vaccinations.

"I never said man made things were evil. But biology is a subject i believe can be studied, not mastered."

You're right. We better stop doctors from practicing surgery.

um jubal. i really dont have much of a choice in saying; meat in a lab - gross, really?

because meat raised on a filthy farm is not so great. I'm talking of course about farms that are managed by Monsanto, Tyson, and the meat being filled with pesticides and growth hormones.

I know that is not what you meant. It is un-natural for meat to be grown in a lab, rather then in nature. But think of the possible benefits of being able to produce meat for consuming, in the healthiest and purest fashion. There is the worry that they would do the same to this meat as they have to the now existing animals. But they do much of these insane things for the sake of producing more meat.

I say, if they can produce nutritious, pure and wholesome meat for consumption of the masses, bring the little franks to life!

(I was going for a frankenstein reference)

You are so right Alij, thank you for bringing up the Monsantos and Tysons of the world. I prefer to pay more and get my meats from local producers who "really care" about their animals and their customers. I sometimes take it for granted.

I wish that everything we ate could be natural, organic and chemical free, but I think that is starting to be asking too much. The push is on to control our food supply in the name of profits.

Man I hate globalisation for that very reason; taking control of all the essential things people need to live, food and water, energy and local commerce.

Considering the chemical gymnastics modern food suppliers use to turn corn into the 40k products in a modern grocery store, growing meat cells in a petri dish seems down right straightforward.

It is at least a process I *understand* at some level.

you know you have lots of typos, right? If you really wanted to make a statement, at least make it with less grammar error. I don't have perfect grammar. But yours is worse!

And that was pretty difficult to understand.

whats so hard to understand?

What would taking the DNA from a tree do? Grow your own lumber in a lab? That doesn't make a good bit of sense economically unless you're growing weed in your home. If you didn't know, there are things such as tissue culture for plants, just as this article is tissue culture for meat. Everything takes resources to grow. The difference is in the quantity and quality of those resources.

In the case of those fags you want to tell to F off...well the amount of resources they consume is significantly less than the amount you do. So if you are at all concerned about using less resources, eat less meat products.

BTW, I honestly do not have nearly as much concern for the health and well being of animals as much as I have concern for the health and well being of my planet and the survival of future generations. Consuming vegetables saves thousands of gallons of water, pounds of pesticides, herbicides, hormones, antibiotics, and erosion and this is just over the course of one single day. One steak has a huge water cost--upwards of 2500 gallons. (that figure is variable, and often disputed).
Vegetables take nutrients, pesticides, and herbicides too, but the difference is the amount that must be consumed by a cow to produce meat. Imagine how much you would have to eat (grass or grain) to gain weight. Then imagine how many cows and the shit, piss, and methane produced by all of them, and the water to grow all that grass or grain.

Eating meat is not bad at all. Three meals a day centered around meat and poultry products is far from moderation and far too many resources consumed at each meal.

providing alternatives does not equal assault

What are you talking about?? This is not meat. It's not an assault. It's an alternative -get it???

The spread of "Vegan"ism is an attack on all cultures that do not agree. It is no different than spreading the notion that women should be veil head to two. A person's diet is vital to one's culture and identity. Vegans seek to erase that identity and connection to the path. It's like the "Lost Generation" in Australia except it isn't limited to aboriginals.

Why don't you eat meat then?
Come on! Don't leave us on a cliffhanger like that!

Because of how it's processed.

and the way that it lost it's life to either a sharp blade or bolt gun makes it even better hahahaha

i couldn't agree more

hi5

UP YOURS PETA

dangit... i'm vegan and i still thought this was pretty funny.

A harsh comment, but it's true. Besides, hmm, let's see. It's better to eat computer manufactured, lab concocted crap than to eat the real stuff? Somehow I think not...

The problem is corporate farming has destroyed our health and food supply.

gradual is easiest, and if you like spices, its even easier. If you choose to eat cheese and can eat it, it becomes very very easy. There are humanly raised cageless, vegetarian fed chicken eggs, and they are better than eggland best. Some vegetarians east humanly raised chicken eggs and dairy products.