Parents would not give child junk food so CPS took him....

Our neglagence solicitor stuart thought it rarther bizaar that the journalist who wrote the story in the yorkshire post made a diagnosis of zak while he was taking notes this man did not no zak and has no experiance at all, but a senior child phediatrician who says he is very experianced in child autisam and diagnoses about 5 children a week with autisam yet he had him in hospital for 2 weeks and would not exept it and put him through numerous unececary tests for nothink.

Thank you for the update.

Today we have a good case to take them to court, and we will there is a problem in the us and there is a problem in the uk both are different its a different country.
and you all will be able to read in the news our story not one that has been made up, we are dicusted and appaled by all this and this is happening to hundreds of people in the uk and it has to stop and the only way is the news hopfully it will get people to fight them and get there children back and stop them taking children from inocent familys, kidnaping your children is a crime no matter who does it.

Finaly we have an autistic assesment of zak and the dr who did it has diagnosed him with severe autisam which makes the dr the hospital and the local athority look very stupid and incompitant, the dr insisted and told our gp us and in his reports that even if zak was autistic it would not have anythink to do with global development delay or a failure to thrive, this dr says he is experianced in child autisam and sees about 5 a week, i dont think so he is suposed to be in a position of trust he has the power to take away your children and everyone listerns because he is a consultand, he is a digrace and shouldnt be in that position, the news did not get the story right it was like a branch of a tree only partly right .
And that leads to silly coments about starving him on here and saying stuff like we wernt feeding him corectly some people must be rearly stupid thay say us brits are stupid .
We have scoured shops trying to find diferent things to try him with and its so hard wen he wont eat hardly enythink ; THERE ARE SOME SILLY COMENTS ON HERE WOT WOULD YOU SUGEST I HOLD HIM DOWN AND FORCE IT DOWN HIM .
Well today he has been diagnosed with severe autisam and autisam effects eating some children its the shape of food some children its the coulor some children its the texture some of you silly people going on about starving him ect have never had a child like this so what right have you to say and judge us
Its the sort of attitude our very experianced child phediatrician that says he is but isnt and people leaving silly coments that do this to people .
IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE EVEN YOU thay kept him constipated for 6 weeks to try and keep his weight up which is neglect acording to the social services guidelines thay take children away for this , but thay did it to my boy for 6 weeks be fo thay admited it to our health visitor, FRAMED BY THE SOCIAL SERVICES I HOPE THAT ALL YOU WHO WROTE ALL THESE SILLY COMENTS DONT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS and have silly things said .
Perhaps you should buy the book called CARNT EAT WONT EAT you can buy it on e/bay

This week zak put on 400 grams

The child protection services in the uk make up stuff statements ect to get your child taken away before you can get a solicitor it is easy for them thay just say anything and the court takes there word it stinks how thay can just do this

At the moment zak is 8.45 kg 18lbs 9oz

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A room we were treated badley the second time we think it was cos we made a formal complaint against them anyway thay were very rude to us i said zak does not like you coming in first thing and swiching a double strip light on he puts his hands over his eyes and gets upset i told them time and time again then thay would bring his breakfast straight in before he had woken up he is like me he likes to wake up first before breakfast zak takes a long time to eat his breakfast he eats his rice crispies one at a time which can take him an hour to an hour and a half everytime i tryd to say how zak likes things i we was called negative whats this we are not allowed to speak zak feeds him self thay were suposed to sit and watch him eat thay were lucky to spend ten muinuites with hi we tryd to tell them that if you touch zaks food he would not eat it he will throw it on the floor we tryd and tryd to tell them but we were called negative and this was one of the things used to take him away thay were out to get us the doctor at the hospital saw zak about six times for about five min at a time and new nothink of our family and never botherd to find out we were going on holiday the second week we were in hospital and canceled our holiday to cornwall thinking we would be able to resume our holiday a week late the social services and the senior doctor took my wife into a room and said were taking zak in to foster care tomorow morning we were shocked we have never had any dealings with social services wver the hospital staff had a meeting and dicided he should go uinto foster care it was not there dicicion to make there is suposed to be a meeting were all attend outr own doctor health visitor ect this was not done it was totaly ilegal what thay did thay just came took him away we never saw him for 6 days it took us a week to get a solicitor we wer told buy thw servive manager at the social services that we had to volinteraly let him go into foster care or thay would go to court that day and get custerdy and our rights would be lost ther were never anny protection issues with zak it was just about his eating, at the end of the month we wanted zak back as he was suposed to be going into foster care to see how he ate ect and at the end of bthe month if he was the same os we said it would prove us right at the end of the month we wanted him back thay said no even though he was exactly the same with the foster perants as with us but thay wernt giving in anouther month hoping he would put loads of weight on in fact he was loosing weight then anouther month no change then anouther and no change thay made up statements that health profesionals had made to get him taken away also thay said that thay were taking him away as we were going on holiday and thay thought we were goimg to abscond and not come back, dont no why thay thought that what a lot oif bull there is more i will post more later it is all crazy wot you think so far there is more

To everyone on here at the first our two doctors and health visitor were telling the hospital that zak had autistic trapes also play workers who had seen him for the first five minuites were convinced that zak was autistic wich would affect his eating the hospital refused to even think about it the consultant was addament that it would not affect his eating we did a lot of research and found lots of stuff to prove it we took this to the senior consultant who still refused to listern we found a book that describes zak to a tee on e/bay it can be bought from a fiver to fifteen pounds anyone who does not beleive me should read it, its called ( carnt eat wont eat ) you can find it on e/bay were taking him private to get him an autistic assessment as the whole nhs does not reconise it thay would sooner put him through numerous usles tests to try and prove were at fault instead of looking at the obvious it is a criminal offence to even think about taking an autistic child in to foster care never mind actualy doing it we took our boy on a referal from our own gp to see a consultant at the chesterfield royal hospital for help with zaksw fussy eating and to try and get help and advise about it food groups ect were promised letters were sent back to our doctor s we were waiting for the feferals to come thay never happend then zak got sick he projectile vomited on friday we gave him fluids only till the next day he could not keep nothink down so i took him to the emergency out of hours doctors who examined him and said he had a temperiture and to give him pleanty of fluids and if he does not get better take him to your cdoctors on monday wich we did our doctor said take him to a and e wich we did ( on friday when he was sick he bumped his head on the door ).
We arived at a/e and was seen by a tranee nurse who started asking questions about bruises we said we dont no what you are talking about he has one which he did on the door when he was sick he also has two birth marks anyway we went to the ward were we were seen buy a veryaty of doctors who kept asking were these bruses were thay got out tapes and tourches anwe kept saying we dont no what you are talking about there is not any bruises this went on for three days before the nurse said to me that there not bruises are thay there vains well thay had phonewd social services but did not bother to phone back and tell them thay had made a mistake the outher woman phediatrician said this to my wife we had a meeting before we went home and i said not knowing who the doc was at the time that doctors who dont no the differance between bruses and vains and should not be in a position of trust and children she was not impresed and made a coment like lets forget about that now thats all thay ever say lets forget about that now we went home and came back two weeks later and the phediatrician said you have had enough time to get him to put on weight now we are going to have to admit him, isaid nothink has been done no suport no nothink thats why we came here how can we be expected to get him to put weight on when you have givern us no suport no feeding groups no nothing bruises and vains should be cleaning toilets anyway it was forgot about at the hospital but not by us we made a complaint about the ward the docs and the nurses about how thay treated us .
We did not take him home we had to jugel our outher 4 childrens school and nursary it was hard i went to hospital around one swaped with my wife she went to pick up children sort washing out clothes for the next day and get there tea then our aunti sue came watched our children while my wife came to the hospital then i went home and got them ready for bed and every two days i stayed at night thay kept us awake at night we were on a chair for sleeping and we kept asking for a room and were told over and over we were next which was not true people were coming in for vone or two nights and getting a room i had had enough and complained and we got

Zaks Weight was 7.9 and after finding our own suport his first week he put on 350 grams he was putting on 200 a month and away from us he put on 250 in 4 months

Zaks Dad zak was following his line but under sentile his average weight was 7.9 he got a bug and lost a lot of weight from friday till monday he went to the emergency docs on saterday and was examined and had a temp no better on monday admited and was re hydrated and his weight went up to 8.2 and thay said he had put on loads of weight taking his actual average weight as the low weight when he was sick there is a lot we want to say and will we were referd there by our gp and was promised help to get him to eat and sustain his weight but it never happend then he got sick we went to hospital on the 1st of may last year and to this day still nothink from them its a sham thay were to bizzy trying to blame us zak still has not been sorted out our children have been destroyed by this especialy emily my 3 year old daughter, that ruined our holiday we were under the inpresion that zak was going in for a two week assessment we cancelrd our first week and after the second week we were just told were taking zak into foster care no warning even our gps wernt told then thay said it was for a month we had to agree or thay would go to court the same day and our rights would be taken away we got into dept ny this we lost our holiday and thay have distroyed our childrens christmas after the month zak was still the same we were told if he was the same it would prove we wer right but that was not the case the senior doc and one woman at the ss went for anouther month hoping he would change and he did not nor the next month nor the next he was loosing wait so thay had to let him come home but the doc at the hospital eas still trying to keep him for anouther six months there all corupt i will see them all in court for what thay have done to zak our family and what thay are doing to outher people its wrong i will not be blackmailed by them in to keeping quiet no way i will tell all fore shure watch the news after trhe 8th of march regards Paul Hessey.

Hi i just found this site while looling at stuff about my boy zak it seems that everyone is interested in our story pitty it did not all get out there is a lot more to tell about our story than was publishedthay made up statements of health profesionals thay concpired against us at the chesterfield hospital i canot say to much at the mo as we had to stop talking but thay canot keep us quiet for long the 8th of march next year the full story will be in the news again Paul Hessey Zaks dad.

So, if a child is pre-disposed to be thin, is there a difference in if a child is predisposed to be heavier?? Children have been taken for being too heavy as well. The problem is that sometimes the professionals jump to conclusions without looking into all factors and CPS jumps on the "easy cases"

wow..honestly it is kind of weird for a 2 yr old to weigh 17lbs in my comparison both my boys weighed about 35ish around that time..and i dont eat or feed them like pigs..but to be true all people develop uniquely so who's to say what going on really??..I think there should be some very blatant lines drawn on what constitutes the authority to take away someone's kid.

Well, the lesson here is to lie to your medical provider so that social services isn't called. Sounds rather Orwellian. I worked in the child welfare department and in the US we don't want to go through the paperwork to remove a kid from a household unless we have to. This would not have been a "have to". This would have been, "How about some nice organic Ben and Jerrys on organic brownies? Let's come up with some acceptable treats people, because the foster care system has kids with real problems to handle."

this child maybe a buddha and simply wants release from the endless cycle of birth and death.

Just ANOTHER side effect of big government.....

just like the depletion of our economy and war......

government is nothing but organized force! It distorts the economy, discriminates marriages, abridges liberty, and is anti-freedom in nature.

Government might be necessary, but what we have today is WAY to big. They are in bed with the corporations now on top of it.....

It appears that this doctor has one solution to every problem. I have a childhood friend who was thin all her life and since very young age always suffered with digestive issues as a result was always a fussy eater. As an adult she discovered she has many food allergies and food sensitivities and always avoided many foods just because they caused pain.
Health and weight is very personal and unique DNA. One child eats too much but does not gain weight, another one eats too little but overweight… Should each of these children be taken away from their parents?
It does not automatically qualify parents as abusers when doctor has no answer to the problem.

kids dont learn to be picky eaters, they are born that way... its a personality trait.... i have two... one will try anything and would rather eat veggies over meat, and the other is extremely picky (see my above comment)..... I have to agree with your second portion though (see my above comment)

As far as kids being picky eaters, I must refute. Parent's need to start taking responsibility for this, because if they were taught from a young age to like different things, it wouldn't be an issue. The problem is too many parents just 'give up' and give in, and your kids ends up eating nothing but PB&J for every meal.

This toddler was one of five kids. Did the CPS ever stop to consider the sizes and behavior of the other children? If the other kids were healthy eaters and at normal weights, couldn't one assume that this toddler was not being neglected? Did anyone stop to think that perhaps the kid could have a medical condition that should be tested for?

I see all kinds of craziness coming out of the UK. Like the pregnant woman who was reported to social services as an unfit mother by a police officer because part of her house was being wallpapered. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6535694/Pregnant-woman-reported-to-...

And yet some insane crimes get slap-on-the-wrist type punishment from the Brits. What is going on???

Great questions everchanging... one would have to think the doctors should exhaust every option before making a solid diagnosis, but sometimes they like to thik they are right in every case (as if its a House episode or something)....... The actual diagnosis and suggestions from the doctor are on the record, and I believe the newspaper got their info from that..... CPS is responsible for screening complaints as well as investigating them fully before taking actions.. they are far from innocent here......

again, the understaffed/underfunded excuse is a crock, they get funding for their actions and make decisions that reflect SS Title IV benefits rather than anything else..... US/UK/ Aus all work uder these systems and have the same problems....

you don't need to have a child of your own to recognize neglect.

anglcazn wrote: "If the CPS is investigating you in the US, there is a pretty good chance that you did something wrong".

this is incorrect information. In the family court system, they are used to get the child(ren) to be with one or the other parent so Child Support money can be raked in. this allows the corrupt court system to make their money.

I experience it like a kidnapper coming through your childs bedroom window and kidnapping your child. If that happens, Society says "yes, it's OK that this person wants revenge".
When the courts come through the "metaphorical window" and take your child(ren) away, society says "that person must have done something wrong for the courts to take away their child". In most cases, it's the judges and attorneys doing something wrong...taking good parents away from children.

17 lbs does seem very small for a 2 year old... my son is 1 and weighs 22lbs.

And from the picture (not that I'm an expert or anything) but he doesn't seem that healthy looking. (Just my HO... Please don't rip me a new one for saying that)

The article didn't mention it but did the doctors do any tests on the child to see if he had any gastrointestinal issues or some kind of deficiency?

I thought the best way to gain weight was by eating protein... (again not an expert)

I don't want to judge the mom, she obviously is concerned about her child. Maybe she just isn't forcing the matter or maybe she is... I don't know, I don't live in her house.

Eating is instinct. A child won't starve himself. But if he is still refusing to eat anything no matter how hungry than there is a probably a medical issue.

This is more than likely posted by someone close to the family. I doubt that the doctors actually told her to give him junk food. CPS isn' responsible for her losing her kid, the Drs are the ones who called it in, and if the child is malnurished, soeone should step in.

The UK's CPS is a little overbearing because many assume the parents of guilt whether it is abuse or pedophilia. Hell, even there are no evidence or indication that the parent has done any type of abuse or neglect.

Unlike the CPS in the UK, the CPS in the US is heavily, heavily understaffed and underfunded. They are so understaffed and underfunded that they won't investigate most cases despite how it is obvious that the child is in danger. If the CPS is investigating you in the US, there is a pretty good chance that you did something wrong.

Before the age of 2, a child needs some form of fat for brain growth and development. There is no reason that at 2 years of age a child should be 17lbs. There is obviously some form of neglect going on here.

He wasn't eating right, that's why he was having weight problems. The mother wasn't feeding him correctly. Taking away the child is extreme, but the mother should feed the child correctly.

"Their parental rights could be removed if they pursue legal action"????
That sounds like blackmail to me...

There are healthier ways to bulk a child up without filling them full of junk food. The doctor is the one who should have been turned into child protective services for suggesting junk food!

Highly judgmental society where social workers are treated as "know it all" and allowed to prosecute parents who do disagree on what is the best interest of their children. Government agencies are allowed to treat every parent with the assumption that every parent is guilty of child abuse if they disagree to completely comply with the "child protective" authority. It is too often these agencies employ social workers with zealous ideological views who in fact have no children of their own and have no life experience to evaluate the situation.