University of Colorado bans Nerf Guns; Zombies and Humans disappointed
source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/11/university-expands-gun-ban-to-nerfs/
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First, Colorado State University voted to ban concealed firearms on campus.
Then the University of Colorado went a few steps further and cracked down on another nefarious threat: Nerf guns.
Plans for a student-led game of humans vs. zombies took a hit after campus security officials discovered that players intended to use the popular orange-and-green toy weaponry. Simulated guns, even those that shoot spongy Nerf balls, are banned at the University of Colorado.
The game, a national craze on college campuses, involves "zombie" students attempting to eliminate "human" students by pelting them with Nerf balls or socks. Once a "human" has been tagged, he becomes a zombie and must wear a bandana around his head.
Humans can stun zombies for 15 minutes by tagging them with a Nerf ball or sock. Zombies must hit at least one human every 48 hours or "starve." The game ends when all the humans have been turned into zombies or all the zombies have starved, which can take days.
CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard said students cooperated fully, replacing the Nerf guns with balled-up socks and even taking it upon themselves to hang fliers in dormitories warning players to leave their Nerfs at home. The game started Dec. 1 and ended a couple of days later.
Still, it didn't take long for cries of "liberal killjoys" to ring out across the Internet. The contrast was especially stark given the headlines that week at Colorado State University, thought to be the last college outside Utah that allowed students to carry concealed weapons on campus with a permit.
The CSU Board of Governors voted unanimously Dec. 4 to ban concealed weapons over the objections of students. Presidents of the Colorado State system have until February to submit a weapons plan that complies with the new policy.
At CU, the ban on Nerf guns isn't new. University officials pointed out that the Board of Regents banned simulated weapons from campus years ago, rather than just in time to suck the fun out of last week's game."
"No guns of any kind, real or toy, from air rifles to paintball guns to Nerf guns, are allowed on campus under the laws of the regents," said a statement issued by Joe E. Roy, chief of police at the University of Colorado Police Department. "We are simply enforcing a longstanding policy, not inventing a new category of enforcement."
The debate over Nerf guns isn't limited to Boulder. Since Humans vs. Zombies first began at Goucher College in Towson, Md., in 2005, colleges have wrestled with whether to allow students to pack Nerf heat. Opposition intensified after the deadly 2007 shootings at Virginia Tech.
Chief Roy noted that Nerf guns can look real to passers-by at a distance. Two years ago, Alfred University in upstate New York went on a two-hour lockdown after a faculty member reported a student carrying a weapon that turned out to be a Nerf gun.
That's even more likely now that some Nerf heat-packers are painting their plastic weapons to look like the real thing. Mr. Hilliard pointed to a Web site that advocates painting Nerf guns black in order to achieve that authentic look.
"We love Nerf guns as much as the next adult adolescent male. But there comes a day in all of our lives when we realize that you can't scare the hell out of anyone with a bright orange and pink pistol shooting foam darts," says the Gizmodo Web site under the heading "Realistic Nerf Weaponry Combines Laser Sights with the Color of Death."
At Bowling Green State University in Ohio, administrators banned the use of Nerf guns for a semester, but then met with student organizers and drew up a list of guidelines, such as keeping the game outside of school buildings. Students also agreed to refer to the weapons as Nerf "blasters," not guns.
The next semester, the Nerf ban was lifted, said Landon King, a junior and past president of the BG Undead, which organizes the games.
"We haven't had any issues, other than people coming up and asking, 'What's that?' " said Mr. King, who added that the group always coordinates its games with campus police. "My only advice for the University of Colorado would be to work with the university, listen to their concerns, and meet them halfway."
In the meantime, Colorado zombies were content to adhere to the no-Nerf policy, especially after learning that they could be charged with violations of the student-conduct policy or even arrested on charges of unlawful conduct.
"We told them that the violation of the weapons policy is a serious thing," said Mr. Hilliard. "If a third party happened upon this and called 911, we'd have to respond as if it were a real incident."
That was enough to convince students like junior Trevor Doner.
"It's not worth it," Mr. Doner told the Colorado Daily. "I'm just going to shed my dignity and bring a balled-up sock to chemistry class."
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samthesixth
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Is nerf really the big problem in a college town filled with binge drinking and people doing fat lines on restaurant tables in public?
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samthesixth
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smallgod
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samthesixth:
'pick your battles', I guess...
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smallgod
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rickm8
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That's retarded. I go to RIT and yeah, we have a lot of nerds, and yeah we play HvZ, I'm tight with the kid who was the OZ (original zombie). Personally, I'm more of a jock, but I think the game looks fun and is pretty cool. Shame on UofC.
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rickm8
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EtVoila
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This game sure beats the hell out of Cops and Robbers!
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EtVoila
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Elemental226
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I participated in the CSU HvZ game, and the staff of the school were awesome about it. There were a bunch of 911 calls, yes, but hey, I think the cops should have fined the morons that made the calls. It is utter insanity to freak out so much over Nerf guns. They're big blue or yellow things that look nothing like real guns, and I say, if you somehow make it not patently obvious that it's a Nerf gun, then the cops should shoot you and be done with it. The game is incredibly fun, and would be crippled to the point of being pointless without Nerf guns. I mean, having to REFER to them as, "blasters," instead of guns? That changes NOTHING about what they DO. If you call a chair an AK-47 that doesn't make it fire bullets. It's still for sitting on. Our society is so pitiful for being at the point that we can't even handle carrying around chunks of plastic without running to cops over it. Freaking out over Nerf guns because of the Virginia Tech shootings would be like if someone got killed with a sword in china, and we banned picking up sticks here in the US. This whole thing should be a complete non-issue, like it was at CSU. No one got shot, no one died, and people had a good time. ARGH.
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Elemental226
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kris10paige
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just wondering why we give a f***?!? is this the kind of cr@p that gets featured on current? give me some better news, you know the stuff that is *actually* news.
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kris10paige
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Darlink
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kris10paige:
look on CNN or something
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Darlink
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kris10paige:
Because they are taking a grumpy law too far.
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DeliaTheArtist
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kris10paige:
What's actually news in your opinion?
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DeliaTheArtist
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Darlink
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How about not painting them black that way no confusion
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Darlink
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ahappymintleaf
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From the school's own logic, it sounds like they banned the use of guns to maintain a rule for the sake of the rule. Pretty lame.
They have this game at USC in the best freshman dorm. Except they just throw socks, I believe. And it's called Assassin... okay its rules are different but it's similar.
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ahappymintleaf
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tubagodd
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How does a nerf gun look anything like a real gun? I mean they paint them blue and yellow so people wont mistake them for an actual gun.
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tubagodd
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regjoeschmo
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hey, if they ban the guns, try full contact medieval fighting...... www.sca.org
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regjoeschmo
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Asha_Kydd
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I think that it is kind of silly to ban Nerf guns. Even if you remove the pressure regulators (tons of videos on this on youtube) you can't hurt anyone.
They are better off getting these people to set some rules about what they can use and who can be targeted. - 2 years ago
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SamuraiDave
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Man, the Killjoys in this world have practically taken over, haven't they? What idiot could have mistaken a nerf gun for a real gun anyway?
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SamuraiDave
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DeliaTheArtist
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So...the next Current meetup should be a big game of Humans vs Zombies, methinks...
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DeliaTheArtist:
But it lasts days.....ha. ha.
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crashbangnoises
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i want to play that game!!!!! just use baseball bats and see how many people actually get hurt. Who bans nerf guns? jerk face mcgee's.
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wayseeker
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College students all over the country playing like 5th graders. I guess it's better than them wasting their time by sitting around smoking pot.
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Sam_the_Wizer
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wayseeker:
Plenty of that at CU too. On 4/20 each year thousands of people sit out on Farrand Field and toke. The cops don't do interfere.
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sedgleyoss
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8GItk4EOU
Here is a video of Zombies Vs. Humans
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sedgleyoss
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danitassin
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Absolutely rediculous.
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Ares
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"First, Colorado State University voted to ban concealed firearms on campus."
Illegal.
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Ares
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lifestudentno83
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A ban on Nerf Guns for safety issues? Way to suck the fun out of school, college.
What's next? A ban on video games because they "promote violence"?
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Varex_Sythe
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lifestudentno83:
Perhaps a ban on driving since it promotes car accidents?
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lifestudentno83:
or a ban on laws because they promote lawsuits?
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lifestudentno83:
or a ban on horses, because they promote racing?
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lifestudentno83:
i propose a ban on taking someone else's joke and running with it.
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crispyfritters
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I'm going to have to check UCSC's policy. I hope they let students carry Nerf guns; as I'm going to want to get in on these extra-curricular shenanigans.
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Varex_Sythe
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Closest I ever got was playing Commando's.
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Jenime:
I've used one. They're awesome.
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Jenime:
this thing is outrageous
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smallgod
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Has anyone partaken in one of these zombie v. human games?
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smallgod:
Nope but it sure likes like tons o fun!!!
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CalgarC
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rofl
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sedgleyoss
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I think the socks should be banned as well. They look similar to rocks (used in warfare by Neanderthals) and the green ones could look like grenades. I find it really interesting that guns are now banned on this campus but knives are still legal. A knife is a far more gruesome weapon (pencils and pens can stab too). In fact they may as well take away shoe laces as people could be strangled.
If guns were banned on the V Tec campus how come people think that gun free zones will fix the problem? Criminals don't follow the rules this is why they are criminals. Lets try something new and at let the ROTC, veterans, and military personal conceal carry if not all students.
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sedgleyoss
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sedgleyoss:
Credit cards make a nifty weapon too ;)
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sedgleyoss:
Well put.
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Sam_the_Wizer
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sedgleyoss:
"The Laws of the Regents and Colorado Revised Statute Title 18-12-105.5 make it unlawful to carry a concealed weapon and unlawful to possess a weapon while on the grounds of the University of Colorado.
In addition, University of Colorado at Boulder housing regulations do not permit the storing of weapons in residence halls or family housing units. As a convenience, the University Police Department provides weapons storage facilities for University-housed students with 24-hour access."
All weapons are banned on campus, not just guns (nerf or otherwise).
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sedgleyoss:
Some knifes are not considered weapons, but can do just as much damage if used properly....
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regjoeschmo
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Lame. They'd have to treat it like a real incident if a 3rd party happened up on it. No. What you do is treat the third party as if they are an idiot for even thinking the Nerf gun is an actual weapon.
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smallgod
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J_Jammer:
Maybe they can switch to fake crossbows. Or is that too 'real'?
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smallgod
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J_Jammer [removed]
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That game sounds freakin' awesome fun. I'm jealous. It's also good that they kept the game going even though the weapon (boring) had to change. Liberal thinking can be a cage. They just can't admit that it can be that way.
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J_Jammer:
Yeah, it sounds really fun. It's cool that it takes place over multiple days. Kind of sucks that it was dumbed down in one of the most obvious, fun, safe and monitored places (ie, a university setting) that individuals could play it.
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smallgod
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J_Jammer:
So how do the zombies dress up? Same colors or make up?
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smallgod
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J_Jammer:
The article says they wear headbands, and when a person is 'tagged' by a zombie, they must become one by dawning a headband. Pretty awesome!
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J_Jammer:
Missed that. I have a few bandannas. All from square dancing in elementary school. We could have been mini-zombies.
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J_Jammer:
It is. We have it over at Univ. of Maryland as well. It was shut down last fall due to similar concerns but this fall everything went off without a hitch. I didn't play this year though due to other circumstances. When you're a human, you're always so freaking paranoid walking to classes. And, as a zombie, it's always fun to turn someone. It's quite an adrenaline rush on either side. There were scenarios set up and everything. If you ever get a chance, play even if you don't have a blaster. The living dead can be awesome as well.
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regjoeschmo
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Didnt they learn anything from the Va Tech shootings?? Keep in mind it happened one year to the date that they made the same policies..... and NERF!? WTF!? I bet the security is allowed to use tasers though.....
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regjoeschmo
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smallgod
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regjoeschmo:
I think it's pretty disturbing. Also, the college treating students like toddlers isn't a very smart policy. What was disturbing as well, after the VA Tech shootings, were the firearms protesters protesting guns inside VA Tech....which was already a policy....obviously a criminal will bring a gun regardless of policy, and it's the fault of the Universities for not protecting students or allowing them to protect themselves...but that's a whole other rant. This Nerf gun ban is just...stupid.
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