American fascism: by political definition the US is now fascist, not a constitutional republic

Yes, it is. If I can locate the video of that speech in full, I'll post it here. :)

- Fourteen Characteristics of Fascism -

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media.

Information Clearing House is a website that links to articles on hundreds of other websites. Some of the most respectable and credible people have also posted articles on the Information Clearing House website. You are totally wrong, tommic.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fantastic comeback!

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. Oh and i never called anyone a racist, that makes you a liar!

Pay attention before you squawk!

Nice too see Ricky84 back on the pipe!

ZZZZZIIIIINNNNGGGGG! Whosh...........splat..........Opps another broken crack pipe.

There go those personal nonsequitor attacks again being implemented to disparage the validity, experience and thoughts of another individual.

All you did was state that you hated an entire region (one of the regions with the highest percentages of minorities and immigrants in the nation and that looks bad). Fascism only works when individuals are put against one another (they are prevalent in every major fascist state. you know the Nazis hated the Jews, the Sunnis hate the Shia, Communist Chinese hate Democratic Chinese and the list keeps on going). You are perpetuating your own faction. Therefore you are promoting fascism.

However, you are probably not racist and you are probably not a fascist. These are funny conclusions for one to reach but I hope through the above information you could see how ricky thinks you are both. It doesn't really matter though right?

Kenny writes

“Oh and i never called anyone a racist, that makes you a liar!”

What about this?

“And if you are a MBA and are not from the south you should know from studying history in college the south is still pissed at the North for one big reason we kicked their asses and made them give up (although not a natural resource) their slaves that enriched their masters for years with their basically free labor.”

So there you are making the claim that the south is still butt-hurt over losing the civil war and that whole slavery thing which pretty much validates my claim. A system of slavery based on racial association is a racist system. Therefore all those boo-hooing southerners are racists. Wow Kenny how did you miss that?

At any rate even if you weren’t trying to call the south racist (which you did and you absolutely meant) you’re still generalizing in a horrible/laughable way. At the time of the civil war the south, at best, had six or seven million white inhabitance. Today the south has a population of about 100+ million. That being said the claim that the south today is the direct ideological or genetic descendants of those six million confederates is not only insane, it’s about as factually accurate as labeling any and all black people you see as crack heads/drug dealers/scumbags.

“Nice too see Ricky84 back on the pipe!”

Oh yes a darkie disagrees with the man and he’s automatically smoking the pipe. Hmm that doesn’t racist at all Mr. Fascist.

“There go those personal nonsequitor attacks again being implemented to disparage the validity, experience and thoughts of another individual.”

I don’t know if that was directed at me or Kenny but in my defense I don’t really see it as a personal attack. All I did was apply Kenny’s train of thought to himself in the same way as he did with the south. Ultimately I neither condone the original claim or my own. I was simply trying to show a weak generalization for what it is, sloppy non-sensible hate speech made in the comfort of those that don’t care to refute it.

@sedgleyoss Hey thanks for the kudos

@Kenny You stay classy now sweetheart!

Hi Ricky,

I'm sorry for not labeling my comment as I should have since it fell under yours. It was directed @ kenny for saying you were 'on the crack pipe'. Have a good day and see you around the site.

And next time you try to say i said something have some proof instead of an over active imagination. Man did you take that comment and make something up about it. Get real and you still need to look up the definition to Fascist that is clearly a real stretch to call me that! Have a nice day and read a dictionary every once in a while!

@small god

My apologies I figured as much but I decided to take the opportunity to expand on my original point.

@Kennymotown

Really kenny you’re going to label me as imaginative? You labeled the entire south as mad over losing the civil war even though the majority of southerners are either transplant northerners, descendants of post civil war immigrants or former slaves/indentured servants. I on the other hand simply claimed that based on your own logic you would qualify as a fascist.

Again to clarify I don’t actually think you’re a fascist. I do however believe you have a very imaginative, bigoted or ridiculously naïve opinion of the south.

Finally some sense!! America is getting scary. However I don't believe the troops will be on the side of a government who wants to kill and imprison it's own citizens on mass.

Your right the only army that will fight against the citizens is that fucking Blackwater gang and they will be out numbered 100,000 to one. Shit they won't even be in the fight they will run off to Jamaica with their money little fucking coward, innocent killing bastards.

Right? and American citizens are certainly well armed. Everyone should invest in a 50 cal!

That is probably just about right jubal, and there are a whole lot of us lied too veterans one too many times and ready for a good patriotic fight with the army of darkness.

Don't forget most of the military is overseas!

Jubal, thanks for the article. It states however that there are 'nearly 200 million' guns in private hands while we have something over 300 million citizens. But those gun numbers could also really be an underestimate. Unless you are counting guns not only owned by private citizens but also by the government, military, police, etc?

Ugh. Again, not what I said. I asked why you were arguing with younger people, not the 'educated masses'. I didn't say you were uneducated, either. I guess due to my age I'm not worthy to talk to someone as advanced in years as you, and apparently my age negates my thoughts, experiences and education. And here I thought we'd ended on a good note. Oh, well, such is.

You said what is a 57 year doing arguing with the youth of America, or did I read that wrong? Well I'm waiting and typing!

Yes, that's pretty much what I said, and that's different than what you just said I said (about you being uneducated and unworthy to talk to educated masses or something) I don't care about your age or level of education, and the reason I mentioned your age was because you said this:

"I guess you can dish it out but you can't take it southern boy (12 years old) go to bed before your mommy gives you a whooping"

I only noted that such a comment was surprising for a man of your age. When my parents were your age they didn't talk to people in such a way. But I guess they are just old fashioned and from Iowa.

I'm sorry for offending you. Your spin is kind of disturbing, though.

More revisionist history from the south I guess because your 57 year old statement came before my 12 year old statement, your confusing your second statement about 57 and parents after I stated the 12 year old. At least get this recent documented history correct, can you please. And yes old fashioned people would have slapped you after your first 57 year statement and said respect your elders. But maybe Iowa they don't.

I said I was shocked to find out your age due to the manner in which you structured your comments. I just seriously had no idea you were that age, as I've read many of your comments in the past and never bothered to look at your profile information. I am sorry if I said it first before the 12 year old comment from you (it is late, I am tired, and this conversation has gotten ridiculously disconnected from where it began with me being agitated at your prejudice toward the south and midwest). From the comments that I've read of yours in the past, you just seemed younger than your posted age. 'More southern revisionist history'...lol. You got me! Luckily this point, of when exactly I called you 57, is pretty unimportant, as far as history goes. But you got me there! All my points above have been debunked by kenny because he found a 'gotcha'! Since you've descended to the point of attacking others personally to prove a vague emotion you have toward a sector of people you don't know and that's not constructive I'm pretty sure I'm done with this ridiculous conversation...

As Ricky below said, you're making overarching generalizations about groups of people (this goes for you too, V!) which is neither liberal nor healthy.

I tried to end this conversation earlier in a nice 'agree to disagree on some things' tone, as I thought you had, but you wanted to keep going on about it and put words and thoughts into my mouth.

PS - Given the context, my parents would not have slapped me because, for one, they would not have been able to tell you were 57 from the way that you write. I don't think I've been disrespectful to you, and I don't think they would think so, either, since my father taught me to argue logically.

What's extra absurd about this whole argument is that I agree with you on almost all points - except with your biased attitude toward 'the south' and 'the midwest'.

And that part it's all good, you know the last part. And for Ricky saying I said racist, I didn't and whenever he makes a comment to me it's always negative. So I have to defend who I am. Everybody gets caught up in the moment, I am certain I am not a fascists I can only assume he doesn't in least bit know what one is. I have for the most part enjoyed our discussion. Have a great night whats left of it!

Oh, then I'm sorry for the last thing I just said after your comments to him as I didn't know that. Though habitual crack use is a pretty volatile accusation, lol. Anyway, thanks for the discussion, and have a good night yourself.

that cartoon reminds me of a scene from the Coen brother's "Oh Brother Where Art Thou"

How can a non-living entity without a conscience or a soul be considered a human with equal rights?

smallgod, that is exactly what I want to know.

I am still waiting for a video of a corporation getting a colonoscopy! Or having a baby, or having any medical procedure.

I'm sure we do have a lot in common, which I guess is why I get a little ruffled by the anti-South comments I see on here pretty often. If I've let my feelings on the issue generated by my past experiences blind me to your real feelings on the issue, then I'm really sorry. I completely agree with you on the aspect of unlimited corporate greed and political profiteering. It is quickly killing this country and I hate seeing good people suffer for it. That is something we can unequivocally agree on! I want my country back as well.

I never said the South didn't elect a majority of republicans; in fact, I actually stated the opposite. You are repeating yourself needlessly. I know what's going on where I live.

I just apologized for assuming that above. That's a very oversimplified answer, as the issue of slavery was one much more complex than that in both the North and the South. If you read what I wrote above, or maybe go check it out for yourself, the North kept their slaves long after forcing the South to give theirs up. Check out the halls of Harvard, Brown and many others. They haven't changed the names of those halls from the names of the original slaveowners. It was, according to our leaders at that time, an issue of states rights vs. federal rights along with the numerous other complexities that existed. Don't think the North outlawed slavery simply because they were morally superior and had better ideas for the nation. Much of it had to do with politics and economics.

Indeed, breaking the back of slavery was the quickest route to breaking the back of the South and forcing compliance with the agenda of the federal government. I'm not saying slavery didn't need to go, but like so many other things the federal government does, they sell us warfare by manipulating the very values we think we are defending, and unfortunately, the Civil War was no exception.

I'm a 22 year old female from San Diego, and I really can't believe you're 57 with comments like that.

Wow. I never said Iowa was the south (my whole family is from Iowa...). That is an incredible statement you just made. I said that because you were crapping on the Midwest in your first comment, stating they should side with the South - "Now for the midwest and their vast open spaces and rush lintball run radio stations have fun running your piece of the pie with a split of bible thumpers and hard working farmers". Some of the best liberal schools are located in the Midwest. You don't even know that you live in one of the most religious Christian states ever devised by man, so much so that the original Buddhists living in California used Christian books in their Sunday schools (an idea which they also took from Christianity).

It's your elected officials having you pay those taxes to the south you so detest. As far as being progressive, you have made gay marriage illegal and you've limited the number of dispensaries in LA and continue to allow police to harass them. Besides, the money they take from you is NOTHING compared to the money the corporations and feds take from Louisiana. That doesn't record as 'tax dollars' because the people don't even get to see that money. Ever. The North is what made the whole country fail. They owe the rest of the country ALL their money. Don't tell me they're 'progressive'. New York just shot down gay marriage. Your representatives in California can't even get on TV and talk about how they're going to fix your financial problems. Have a look at Time magazine and the SS belt buckle your 'governator' wore in a cover photo. California's lost more gun rights than any other state, which shows that state doesn't even abide by the US constitution. I'm not saying I support Southern leaders - I vote how I vote - but yours are no better. There's no comparison between North and South in a negative or positive manner. They are simply each different and beneficial in their own ways, and serve to balance one another out. Neither is certainly more 'racist', 'mentally with it' or more 'backward' than another. They each have rich histories and current populations, which I guess is the original 'bone to pick' I had with your first comment.

Additionally, I just realized that I assumed you lived in California. You did not say that here, but I think I thought I saw it in another post. If you are not from California, I apologize for my mistake.

Neo Nazis are very prevalent in your area. You also have some crazy christian cults in that area. Where do you get off trying to bitch at others for their representatives? You vote for yours and if you don't like any of them then run yourself.

How can you compare different cultures? Did you know that in the south a very prominent religion is voodoo? Kinda fucks you up on that whole christian argument. Also if you didn't notice mr. kenny all that money you suspect has been going to the south hasn't changed shit there. The north still has larger cities and more money. I think the south has been poorer than the north since the civil war (maybe you should check your facts). And wow you actually said that the northern total warfare was a good thing. You mean when officers from the union fired upon homes killing wives and children? Or do you mean the union that didn't actually fight for slavery (you do know that was not what the war was about right?). Oh!!! Maybe you mean the Union who would not let black men fight with white men?

Oregon the best state in the union as it has one of the highest rates of elderly suicide! Oh wait....
Damn has he been smoking some of that cali med.....S**T I have too :(

But seriously north and south shouldn't fight. It is the government that is the problem. They are fucking us and trying to make us fight among ourselves. Maybe then we won't notice the pain in our ass.

That's not what I said. I merely asserted that your black and white prejudiced based assumptions were oversimplified.

uhhh, Kenny, about that Southern thing...Lieberman is from Connecticut.

I feel us getting another step closer to a real revolution and this depression by the rich fascist brought it on themselves. Good call!

You wouldn't have to pay so many taxes to the South if the South were allowed to keep the proceeds from its own rich natural resources like oil. Unfortunately when oil companies drill down here, more often than not (see: Louisiana for a really good example) they don't give any of that money to the South and it all gets filtered back up North to support building and maintaining of Northern infrastructure. This is a big reason there's still a lot of resentment for the Northern states down here - they take our money and use it for themselves, then turn around and tell us we're 'backward'.

smallgod, I believe if you look up who pays more federal taxes and what that state gets back in federal dollars you will be proven wrong with that comment!

I just re-read your comment and you seem kind of prejudiced. Northerners are the ones who kept their slaves after the South gave them up when the emancipation proclomation was decreed. The North retained their Ivy League school halls named after slaveowners and haven't changed them til this day. The North came up with the Black Codes. But, oh yeah, we're the inbred miscreants.

If you look into where the oil companies drill and how much money they siphon out of these states you'd find out you're not totally right.

smallgod, call yourself whatever you want, but you can keep your oil the bakken shelf discovery that is bigger than the saudi oil fields is in Montana and North Dakota so the new oil king will be the Northern plains. Look that one up too on goggle.

That's all fine and dandy, but it has nothing to do with the South. Northern companies take the South's money and don't let the South see a penny of what is rightfully theirs. What does what you said have at all to do with the original conversation? What does it matter if Montana has the biggest oil fields? The North still takes the South's natural resources, I don't think the corporations care where the 'biggest field' is. I'm just saying that what you said isn't entirely true and further fosters negative ideas about the South that are misconstrued and misunderstood. It's more complex than the simple idea you've put forth.

smallgod, sorry you feel that way but you in the south keep electing the Fascist Republican Senators and the corporatist Judges your Presidents have put on the supreme court we all up here and the west can't help but think you all down there are not quite mentally with it. Nothing personnel but if your using resources as some excuse for the South you have totally forgot about the resources in the west, midwest, and Northeast that have been exploited by the south as well. What kind of argument are you trying to make. The mighty damns of the west and northwest electrified you folks in south and the lumber of great forrest and the coal fields more than makeup for your textile mills that have been shipped off to the far east.

*personal, *dams, *you're, *forgotten, *forest (at least in the South we can write properly...jk (sort of))

Maybe that's because there are more poor folks down here not really wanting to give the federal government more money than they already have had taken from them. Sure, there are a lot of religious folk down here too, but the concentration of Neo-Nazis happen to be located in Northern California and Oregon. Southerners think Californians in particular (I'm actually from San Diego) can't make a decision to save their lives, and see a lot of Northerners as hypocritical. No section of the country is better than another. Each area has faults and positives and furtherance of your idea that the West and North are superior to the Midwest and South is prejudiced at best.

Additionally, the South and Midwest are responsible for creating 'real' money. All the North does is play with numbers to create money out of nothing. I think Wall Street and other northern stationed corporate conglomerates are responsible for the financial crisis (and where are these fools from? Oh, yeah.) At least with the South you pretty much know what you're getting and these states are honest with their opinions. Gay marriage is legal in Iowa, but California went from making it legal to illegal. Do you know how many crazy Christians are in California? Maybe you should check into your own state before you start talking to other people about how superior and cool it is compared to other states.

I just looked at your info and was shocked to find out that you are 57. Why are you online arguing with the youth population? I could have sworn by the content of your comments that you were in your 20s.

Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

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But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off.

http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

(sorry - I couldn't resist!)

Uhhhhh what i the hell are you talking about?? If you think the civil war was fought over slavery you are gravely mistaken. The point of the war was fear that the northern states were making more money from manufacturing and that farming would be put out of business. Actually much of the south did not own even one slave as they cost around $100,000 in today's money. The north was also racist as they built colleges using slaves and then in turn named the halls after the slave owners. Individuals in the North also kept slaves longer than individuals in the south. Holy shit did you know that the jim crow laws were also created in the north???

The south must love those roads you "gave" them. Now they have something that they can use to go to the jobs they don't have. OMG did you know that the largest section of the immigrant population also resides in the south? Kinda makes you sound a little racist..

Also how does an assault weapon fit in a glove compartment? You just fucking blew my mind. These are large rifles (even when in bullpup configuration.) You do know that a bolt action gun is not the same as a select fire assault rifle right? Oh wait sorry you are talking about something that you have no experience with.

Let the Spanish keep Florida? You must be drunk. Uhh America took over Florida as a part of manifest destiny. Actually the natives in Florida used those swamps to keep their cultures going. If you gave the Spanish Florida today you would be handing over one of the largest ports in the country. You know that little city Miami?

I am not familiar with these things you call liberals I think I may come from the south. But if these "liberals" you speak of talk like you did I can see why individuals in the Southern states think you are ignorant and snobbish. How do the ones in the north view you? What are you again? What do you believe in?

I don't give a shit if a man marries a man am I considered liberal? Or can I not join this club as I have a brain which you seem to lack?

Wow, that was really a black and white interpretation of an entire sector of human beings in the United States. I don't think I've ever read so many obscenities in one place (not that I have an issue with it, obviously, it's just remarkable).

News Flash:

- The Civil War wasn't about slavery.
- The South is still one of the poorest areas of the country, despite your generous 'tax dollars' because your greedy Northern corporate pigs steal all the wealth from here. It's not the South's problem that you pay some money to it. Consult your representatives if you have an issue.
- There is more variety in the South than you're willing to accept.
- Not everyone down here is against gay marriage and the other social issues you mentioned, however as I recall NY just voted down gay marriage...get this...with a democratic majority...and even one gay democrat.
- The electoral college diminishes the value of everyone's vote. How can you judge people you only read graphs about?

Conclusion: There is no point exuding more hatred, as all areas have their own respective faults. No area is superior to another. They each have positives and they each have weaknesses. I'm sorry, but I really don't see a difference between modern Democrats and Republicans as each of their policies hurt a lot of people, they just (usually) do it in different ways.

I'm all for cutting Oregon, Cali and Washington off from the rest of the nation.

I would just like to say that Vierotchka didn't write that rant. It's from the link posted below it.

That said, it's an impressive rant. lmao

Yeah, if you're stupid and like your rants full of historical half-truths, hate and bigotry.

BTW, for all the South-hating that goes on on this site, I've yet to see a Southerner fit into you all's narrow cookie cutter idea of 'what Southerners are'. So, basically, to the people who say all that crap, it's pretty funny because you guys are the ones who come off as hateful uneducated bigots.

You all do realize that saying 'I hate the South' is no different than saying 'I hate the Blacks' or 'I hate the Spanish' or 'I hate (insert broad group here)'....Right? Just letting you all know that, for how 'liberal' you profess to be, you all sound pretty racist.

She did post it as being her words. Even with the link, the response was not prefaced by any information regarding the source. Nothing was written in quotes.. You my friend are an idiot if you think that rant was well informed.

No, sedgleyoss, I absolutely did NOT post it as my words.

No quotes? No author on the site? For all I know these are your words on your website. But I really do not care. It was a stupid quote from a site which does not even research their facts before posting a "rant".