Glenn Beck defends blacks being counted as three-fifths of a person
source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/beck-slaveowners-wanted-equality-africanamericans/
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In response to a question from an African-American caller, Beck defended the original "Three-Fifth Clause" in the Constitution, which deemed African-Americans to be "three-fifths of all other persons."
It was a compromise reached between the North and South in the Philadelphia Convention of 1787, and served in many ways as the justification for slavery while it lasted.
"I noticed you reference the founding fathers a lot," said the caller. "And to me it's kind of offensive because most of those guys were slave-owners. The Constitution that they wrote up -- they didn't even recognize my people as even human."
"Where'd you learn that, Josh?" Beck soon responded, after asking him to explain his question. The caller said he "learned that in school."
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"Well, you didn't, really," Beck retorted, launching into his curious defense of the Constitutional clause the United States later abolished and deemed unequivocally immoral.
"That is the common misconception," Beck said, recommending that the caller learn what really happened by reading "a really good history book not written by progressives."
"Do you know who wanted slaves to be counted as a full person?" he asked. "Slave owners."
Josh argued with that assertion, but Beck wouldn't have any of it.
"The reason why they wanted that is because of the balance of power," Beck explained. "The South could control the numbers in Congress. Their representation would go through the roof."
"That’s why," he continued "in the Constitution, African-Americans were deemed three-fifths people, because the Founders wanted to end slavery and they knew if the South could count slaves as full individuals you would never get the control to be able to abolish it."
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bike10
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Nice to know that Glenn Beck and three/fifths of brain.
- 2 years ago
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Actually Glenn Beck is correct the slave states did want to count each slave as a person so that they would have more representatives in congress.
Remember that originally the number of Representatives increased/decreased every census. The size of the House was not fixed until 1910 when the size was fixed at 433 + 2 for a total of 435.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/censusdata/apportionment/history.html
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http://www.thisnation.com/textbook/constitution-convention.htmlthe Great Compromise of the Constitutional Convention
During the Constitutional convention populous states wanted senators and representatives from the each state to be chosen by population alone, since the sovereignty was given by each person. The less populous states wanted equal numbers for each state saying that the sovereignty was vested in each state first then the National government.
The representation of states in the Senate would be equal--each state would choose two Senators, regardless of its population.
In the House of Representatives, however, the number of Representatives elected in each state would depend on population.To further emphasize the importance of states as distinct political entities with special status under the new Constitution, the Convention also provided that Senators would be chosen by the legislatures of the several states and not be elected directly by the people, as House members would be. The agreement literally saved the Constitutional Convention.
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Also at issue was how slaves were to be counted for purposes of representation and taxation. Delegates from the Southern states wanted slaves to be counted for the purposes of allotting congressional seats to the states, but not for the purposes of levying taxes. This, of course, was not acceptable to the Northern states who were not inclined to let the South have it both ways. They would either have to count them for both purposes or for neither. Once again, the convention was at an impasse. It was the second major compromise of the summer that salvaged the Convention once again. Under the so-called Three-Fifths Compromise, slaves would be counted as 3/5 of a person for both purposes. While seemingly an arbitrary number, by counting only three out of every five slaves, there would be a rough balance in representation between the Northern and Southern states in the new Congress. This was important to the Southern delegates because they feared that a North-dominated Congress would outlaw slavery as one of its first items of business. - 2 years ago
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ryan8566
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should we tell him this is not done any more?
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ryan8566
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keithponder
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glenn beck can kiss my ass.
- 2 years ago
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keithponder
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bansheewail
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Glenn Beck is delusional. I guess, if you'll believe the Book of Mormon, you'll believe anything. That is Beck's gift. he whole-heartedly believes anything anyone tells him and anything he imagines. I wonder, if he can read? Doubt it. It's very difficult to read and run your big mouth at the same time.
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bansheewail