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No change : Senate committee renominates Ben Bernanke

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12/17/2009 The Senate Committee renominated Ben Bernanke on Thursday, proving that the only change America has seen is a change towards even more government and monopoly control of our currency by the Federal Reserve.
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71 comments // No change : Senate committee renominates Ben Bernanke

  • Tina_Waters
  • unicron
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      unicron  

    • So, I see some here are infatuated with Ron fucking Paul, but he's not the only alternative. Or you just like the fact that Ron will let southerners go back to the stone age under the guise of religion? So more competition will make Texaco care for the environment, Pfizer care more for humans and improve disgusting factory farming? Have fun on the porch with your shotgun.

    • 2 years ago
  • unicron
    • unicron  
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  • unicron
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      unicron  
    • unicron:

      So, I see some here are infatuated with Ron fucking Paul, but he's not the only alternative. Or you just like the fact that Ron will let southerners go back to the stone age under the guise of religion? So more competition will make Texaco care for the environment, Pfizer care more for humans and improve disgusting factory farming? Have fun on the porch with your shotgun.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheSwan
  • Juas
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      Juas  

    • The people need to rebel. Thats the only way to stir old-politicians off and have some change. Real change.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheSwan
  • shanklinmike
  • TheSwan
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      TheSwan  
    • Juas:

      collectivism? are you bound by isms, my friend? i suppose one could choose to see it as collectivism, but that isn't really an idea, as ism implies, it's more of an undeniable truth. that is, we humans are all sharing this world together. if wrapping that up into an ism works for you, by all means, warp away. but be aware that isms are just perceptual distortions that are no longer relevant to our (collective) existence. we can go into that if you'd like.

      TVP clearly rejects forced slavery, i'm not sure what you meant by that.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • Juas:

      It's based around central planning, it wants to enslave the people to a world where barter trade is outlawed (sure, it doesn't sell it like that, but that's it's ending goal is control over the economy so that 'their' central planners can do things efficiently). But that is not the goal of Liberty, the goal of liberty is for everyone to do as they wish as long as they don't harm someone else. That means, if they pollute, then there are consequences that must be honored.....

      but the VP kind of lies to people. It says it wants peace but then calls for central planning.....

      at the very least its hypocritical, because it does call for certain controls. It wants to switch off of profit signals in a competitive industry towards one of centralization at a monopoly hierarchial level. It calls for too many controls for me, this is what politics is in essence. I believe that the next best invention, no one knows.... or is at least lost in some mind. The market, in freedom, opens these options up to the people more than central planning and control.

      Peace

    • 2 years ago
  • TheSwan
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      TheSwan  
    • Juas:

      In what way do you solve problems in a free market? As long as people are rewarded for corruption and manipulation, they will exist. I'm sure your ideas are well-intentioned, but they are horribly archaic. This reality is created by humans and our mindsets. As Karl Marx adequately observed, "The ideas of the ruling class are, in every epoch, the ruling ideas". The ruling ideas now are based on our most primitive drives and desires. I know that sounds very Freudian, but it makes sense since Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, is the father of public relations and has helped corporations and gov't manipulate the public for profit and personal gain using his Uncle's findings on the unconscious.

      I'm sorry to say it, but the only way to prosper as a species is to progress collectively, and the only way to do that is to free ourselves of our self. In what way would The Venus Project prevent you from doing anything? The point is to free ourselves from the mindless jobs and worries that are holding us (that is, human beings) back from realizing our full potential; our most basic human needs... food, shelter, and clothing. Some people in a monetary system may be able to attain those things comfortably, but then they must live in fear of the people who do not and more and more illusions of separation stem from fear. This system (I'm not talking about "the man", but the actual system in place at this time) is not the best we can do. The "authority" you're apparently fearful of would not be someone's opinion, it would be (and should be) based on empirical data. "In the Venus Project, decisions aren't made, they're arrived at." I suggest you watch a few of the lectures presented by Peter Joseph and Jacque Fresco on these matters. There are two on the Zeitgeist Movement homepage and plenty others on the side bar. The Activist Orientation guide would probably be a better place to start.

      With that said, what other alternative do you suggest that benefits all human beings? I don't want to come off like I'm not open to ideas.

    • 2 years ago
  • agreeablestatistic
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      agreeablestatistic  

    • hey guys! i love ron paul's penis too let's abolish the monetary system and adopt a barter economy!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

      i'll trade you my intro to macroeconomics textbook for that ron paul highlight reel you masturbate with every night.

    • 2 years ago
  • zHellas
  • ScottyT
  • shanklinmike
  • outtheinside
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      outtheinside  

    • what happened to intellectual comments? i'm pretty disappointed in the spamming of dumbass comments talking about taking down the fed and the fed stealing this or the public is all being misled. get a grip you fools. without the central bank, you could count the most stable, strongest, fastest recovering, biggest boomer, and low unemployment economy in the world goodbye. if anyone would like to debate on why the federal reserve is necessary, hit me up in my inbox or reply, but please, add some intellectual rigor into your questions. i'm an economist and you probably aren't.

    • 2 years ago
  • bushama
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      bushama  
    • outtheinside:

      How much interest do you think we have paid the fed to borrow us money since its beginning. Also please forgive me for I am not as smart as you but do you think this is the best thing for america to borrow money and pay interest, why do we need the federal reserve to do that. Thanks

    • 2 years ago
  • ScottyT
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      ScottyT  
    • outtheinside:

      It looks to me as though you need to get a grip. Show me how the Federal Reserve has done anything but create the current crisis that we are in today. The creation of money out of thin air leads to excess credit which create asset bubbles through inflation. Now, the same people who created this problem are given more power to solve it. What is their solution? Create more money and keep the bubbles they create overinflated. It's no coincidence that fifty years ago, an average home cost less than $30K.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheSwan
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      TheSwan  
    • outtheinside:

      The central bank's role was originally to end inflation; however, one dollar in 1913 (when the fed was created) is equal to about 21 dollars today, maybe more. So, outtheinside, being the economist that you purport yourself to be, I'm open to hear what you have to say. I see the issue as an obvious facade based on the research I've done. Then again, I am not an economist, so I'm eager to hear a well-thought out rebuttal from a different perspective on this issue.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • Eternalposer
  • iameam
  • unicron
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      unicron  

    • Al Gore owns this website sh*tbird. Do you all know who's a libertarian? George W. Bush, that's right. Deregulation, hands off style, that's actually quite 'republican' as of now. (I know you're confused, that's why you think you're a libertarian.) Otherwise, get another website, hows about Fox News, mkay? Unless you monkeys find that you'd better join the Green Party, quit crapping on Dems.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • unicron:

      Actually, Bush was a self professed ex-Trotskyist neoconservative, not a constitutional libertarian.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9TCC14akXk

      Bush has been VERY hands on, he is a supply sider, not a liberty defender! He is similar to the Keynesians for added protectionism, it's college textbook!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DIaNHPTVJU

      Bush, along with many republicans and democrats supported Freddie and Fannie during the bubble, pushing for government in homeownership.

      Bush even said he gave up on the free market, "to save the free market"....this guy is clueless, he's a republican corporatist, not a libertarian.

      To companies that love protectionism, the last thing they want is a competitive open market! They LOVE advantages that prop them up and drive out competitors. They LOVE subsidies and corporate welfare. America has been on the wrong path since 1913, this has nothing to do with the false paradigm of the left versus right, this is about liberty vs slavery!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetNPJJcuAE

    • 2 years ago
  • unicron
  • Eternalposer
  • unicron
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      unicron  
    • unicron:

      It's ok, you didn't realize this is a continuation of an earlier tiff, or maybe you're butting in, either way.

      Please respond (from an earlier post, #26):
      Do you like the fact that Ron will let southerners go back to the stone age under the guise of religion? So more competition will make Texaco care for the environment, Pfizer care more for humans and improve disgusting factory farming? Have fun on the porch with your shotgun.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
  • bombastinator
  • zHellas
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • shanklinmike:

      actually, Ron Paul is against the Federal government in abortions!!!

      BUT, as a doctor who devliered over 4000 babies, he has a moral obligation to discourage it, although not with taxpayer money at a Federal, unconstitutional level.

      this is one issue where most libertarians, including myself, break away from Paul at a state level and hope to see liberty given even at the local levels of government as well.

      Regardless, Dr Paul is Federally Pro-Choice.....

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • shanklinmike:

      Oh I understand the term. An oligarchy is rule by a non elected group of nobility. A junta is a kind of oligarchy. The Chinese communist party might also be considered an oligarchy. They do appoint members to the party based on factors other than birth, but it's rare and preference is given to children in power.

      The US government is a representative republic. Not even close to an oligarchy, though It's a lot closer to a plutocracy now than it was in the 70's. The Regan republicans have made a real dent in the middle class. Their primary tool for that was supply side economics, something you promote almost to the point of worship iirc.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • shanklinmike:

      There is no limitation on oligarchs by election status. Oligarchs by definition is simply control of the many by the few, that is what America has become, we have lost our Republic.

      Supply side economics calls for central planning and subsidies to corporate sectors, I am against it. Additionally, most Austrian economists do as well because supply side economists are two faced. They say they are for free markets but then support big government programs for "free market politicians".

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • shanklinmike:

      ahhh. So you never actually did read the definition yourself then. That might be true if senators were appointed for life rather than elected for a term. By your definition all governments are oligarchies except Switzerland and Pitcairn island.

    • 2 years ago
  • zHellas
  • ScottyT
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      ScottyT  
    • shanklinmike:

      So, bombastinator, why is it that the current administration has "appointed" more authoritarian figures (i.e. czars) than any other administration? That certainly does not strike me as a "representative republic."

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • unicron
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      unicron  
    • shanklinmike:

      @whatevermike

      Dude, your English is more revolting than Barb Bush's physique. I don't know what country you're from, but study some US history and understand the value of democracy vs. anarchy why don't ya.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • NickerBocker09
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      NickerBocker09  

    • Lol, going on behind closed doors? The Fed a secret society bent on the destruction of the world I guess. Everyone here for some reason knows everything that goes on behind closed doors because we can see through walls and read minds.

      So instead of the Fed's monopoly on money you want corporations like Enron, Exxon, to create our money? If not them who? Who will decide who makes the money? Obviously not the government... the people? You think they cant do shit since they elect the wrong people all the time.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
  • Jake_Towne
  • tomofnorthcal
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      tomofnorthcal  

    • I can't find any info stating if he worked for any corporations, but did find info that he mainly worked in academia and government. Anyone know if he has worked for a corporation?

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
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      Ihatethemall  

    • The foolish american sheeple could have the info stuffed down their throats and know it was true and if the DNC or the GOP tells them it will be OK they would listen. you are fooling yourself M_B

    • 2 years ago
  • Mike_Beitler
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      Mike_Beitler  

    • I am in favoring of auditing the Fed. Once Americans find out what's going on behind closed doors, they will demand that the Fed be abolished.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
  • Ihatethemall
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      Ihatethemall  

    • Look at that shithead dodd and chuck the dum F*** shumer. shit eating grins on their faces....yeah...we pulled another one over on the American sheeple didnt we....

      Yeah guys, you sure did

    • 2 years ago
  • AmericanStandard
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      AmericanStandard  

    • I agree we need to ban the fed but realistically speaking the first step is to actually get the government to audit the fed. We are all victims of the FED's reckless practices and lack of accountability. Here comes the new boss....same as the old boss!!! Every election year America gets to choose between 2 steaming piles of shit... the only difference is the smell. Audit the fed and ban the 2 party system!!

    • 2 years ago
  • Mike_Beitler
  • Mike_Beitler
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      Mike_Beitler  

    • No change is no surprise. Bernanke has been a member of this group for a long time. Of course, he would be renominated. Abolish the Fed! Let Bernanke and the other Fed members get real jobs.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • shanklinmike
  • iameam
  • bushama
  • paintress
  • bombastinator
  • ScottyT
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      ScottyT  

    • So when are you Obamabots going to figure out that our current President represents NO REAL CHANGE from the previous administration?

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
  • RonenA
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • ScottyT:

      rofl. compared to who? the last one? Clinton kept Bush's Sr.'s fed chair, and Bush Jr. kept Clinton's. There is nothing unusual in this. The only people who are hung up on the fed are the "RonPaulobots" perhaps? It's so easy to make up dumb names.

    • 2 years ago
  • Confucius
  • tommytripper
  • ScottyT
  • shanklinmike
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