Republicans poised to run on health care repeal campaign

That's another thing.... All these dems are calling the GOP the party of "NO", the obstructionist party, etc. well let me state the obvious for all of those people who do not have a clue; For a whole YEAR (Jan. 20, '09 - Jan. 20, '10) they did not need ONE republican vote to pass ANYTHING. They had a super-majority and the only thing that stopped the dems from passing anything, including this horrible health care bill, is the conscience of the voters. The voters told their elected democrats that NO, we do not want this bill. How many times do they have to make it crystal clear? Wait, but maybe if the President just explains it ONE MORE TIME....LMAO He thinks, along with his sheeple, that the American people are a bunch of stupid idiotic morons! Palin was right when she said that universal healthcare will lead to death panels. That is NOT scare tactics but rather, it is the truth. How could it not be when the government is fronting the money and the costs? Since when has anyone in the Motor Vehicles Department or the Post Office ever cared if you thought you were being overcharged or that you were waiting too long? A government with a conscience is like a stripper on her wedding day. The only sure thing in that analogy is that in both cases you are getting screwed but when you wake up from the nightmare, the stripper may be gone but healthcare is here to tell you WHY you have high blood pressure, why you are overweight, why you have type-2 diabetes, and why you have cancer. This health-care bill gives the government a way into your house-into your life. You know that window in your house, the one that was once closed to everyone except your friends, family, and your doctor. Once relegated to a peeping tom in a tree outside of your house, big brother now has access to not only look freely in your window, but they now become the other side of that two-way mirror that once showed you a reflection of yourself. Now you find yourself staring right in the eyes of Uncle Sam. The longer you look in this mirror and stare at your uncle, the less you remember who you are or what you look like. It seems that your uncle is in town and he aint leavin. He knows that by paying your mortgage or taking care of your medical bills for you, he has control and now he can finally, after all of these years, shape you in his image. You want to say something because a part of you misses your old life before your uncle came to visit but now, that life seems oh so long ago. Besides, if you offend your uncle, then you can forget about retiring at 50. Maybe the longer he stays, the more comfortable HE becomes, the more bills he pays, the more spending money he gives you-you remember that this reminds you so much of getting an allowance as a kid only now, you are comfortable and in no hurry to grow up and get out on your own. You forgot how good you had it when your parents took care of everything and boy it has never felt better, and as Uncle Sam reminds you that you deserve it and it is owed to you. Fast forward 10 years, your Uncle is still there and now you are retired. You are starting to have some medical problems and you need a hip-replacement and triple-bypass surgery. Your uncle who is still very wise and all knowing, always looking out for you, tells you what he thinks. While the surgeries would make sense, he reminds you that you have never been in great shape and your genes are not all that good now that you are in your late 50's. You and your uncle make a compromise-you get the triple bypass if you are still alive in three months when the surgery is scheduled but the hip replacement is not gonna happen but don't worry because he is scoring you some good pain meds to take away every pain that you have ever had or will ever have. That is a snapshot into the once great United States of America in 2025 if we pass this healthcare bill. Some friendly advice would be to 1. Make your own life and rely on yourself. 2. Remember that if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. 3. Never let your uncle stay with you for an extended period of time.

The only reason it is okay to run on appealing this bill is because it IS a bad bill. Americans in every poll do NOT like this bill. They want to start over!! The President will not do this because he knows that it will not get done. We do need reform but we need to come together, focus on a bi-partisan bill, and make it happen. Obama tells us that we do not have the time and we can not wait. Well if it is SO important then why do the so called "benefits" start in 2014 instead of immediately? If this was about insuring every American, then all they would have to do is take 30-45 billion a year out of that 780 Billion dollar stimulus (in which less than a quarter of that has been spent) and we can insure everyone. We all know that it is NOT or never has been about insuring every American. What Woodrow Wilson started, and FDR continued, and now Obama is trying to finish, is to transfer 1/6th of the nations economy over to the federal government and control every aspect of people's lives! PERIOD!!!

the AMA is Huge!!

The only this this whole health care debacle has done is prove that the Senate is worthless and incapable of doing their job. The Democrats are idiots who refuse to lead and just tell the Republicans to F*** off and either do their jobs or go the hell away. (Thanks Harry for the leadership) But the other side of this is the Republicans have had a frigging year to propose what they wanted in health care reform. Instead they chose to take this passive/aggressive path of saying NO to every damn thing proposed that made any sense or refusing to even vote it out of committee with any kind of true reform (Thanks Olympia) and threatened filibuster if the final bill does not restrict abortion or cut taxes on the rich--and the kicker is that the one thing they actually did not say No to was the joyous mandate that everybody in America--but members of Congress buy crappy insurance or be fined.

That and IMHO because the Republicans were such assholes throughout this whole debate and succeeded in getting every demand they made met by simply saying no I won't vote for this bill unless (fill in the blank)--- they created an atmosphere that allowed Ben Nelson and Bart Stupak, Blanche Lincoln, and Joe Lieberman to step through that door they opened and make and get their own outrageous demands met because suddenly their votes were paramount to overcome the filibuster.

There are 30 republican plans to use the private sector and smart changes to fix the small problems we have with health care.How can the same people that went insane over Bush tapping terrorist phones over seas be ok with the democrats monstrosity of a health deform bill?Some states pay more some states never pay some states take big medicare cuts some staes take none at all some states pay extra taxes for good health care plans unions do not there even a no REPEAL clause for the medicare death panel part of the bill and your all ok with that!!?The democrats arent fixing health care there enslaveing us all

Does this surprise anyone? These cut throat bastards are as ruthless as they are barbaric..to live in the only first world country on the planet that holds your childrens health care provider ransom is about as cold as it gets. They see no problem with asking how much is it worth to you to have your sick or injured child see a qualified doctor...not some quack at some run down clinic in the varrio....no those doctors are only for that fat assed republicans who hide like the frightened rabbits they are in gated communities.

Their last truck load of ideas dumped garbage - a $500B overpriced prescription program that benefitted big pharma when "preventative" HC would have been a far better investment of that 100% borrowed money. And the program has a donut hole so big that the truck can drive through it. The they proceeded to borrow money for tax breaks that benefit the top 10% by 25x over the average citizen.Not to mention the off-the-books war, on more borrowed money. The "no-way" Rep way seems to be a bit hypocritical.

Okay first off it is awfully convenient that the Republicans now have tons of ideas and are suddenly ready to "fix" health care with their own plans and agenda--so where the hell have they been storing these ideas for the last year? And why did they say NO NO NO NO every step of the way without ever putting forth any of their ideas AT THE ACTUAL TIME of the debate???

Personally I agree the health care bill does suck--but the reason it sucks is because the dumb*** Republicans refused to even consider debating the issue. All they wanted to do was show the maximum amount of disrespect to the President because he was not Republican--that and even though the Democrats hated George W. they did not show him this much over the top, complete, total disrespect just because he breathed.

Cant say I blame them, why would i want to pay higher taxes and premiums for someone to tell me what coverage I get and who to go to. Not only that but I dont have the money to get health insurance right now so tell me what's so great about me getting penalties because I cant afford their rediculous healthcare crap.

@telcod, here is the link to read the book "Pax Vobiscum" on line.
http://books.google.com/books?id=9jwRAAAAYAAJ&dq=Pax+vobiscum&printsec=f...=onepage&q=&f=false

To slimpunk. You speak of "Commonwealth." (and common health) This is presently un-American. Sedition maybe.

Bless you

to treewolf39. I have not given up, if you were addressing me. "We came because we believed. We left, because we were dissolutioned. We came back because we were committed. The revolution has never been pure." I was an american terrorist, class of '67. I have raised 8 children, not of my seed. My debt is partially repaid. I am in my declining years and I fear for my children. The time is now.

Pax vobiscum brother or sister

To JohnA. Yeah, I really would prefer Sarah F__king Pallin holding my swantz on my death bead instead of Barrack F__king Obama. When will you all learn. The "system" is beyond repair. When you consider the last decent President was probably F__king Eisenhower. and he left 50 years ago, warning us about the military, industrial (political) complex (They made him take out the political reference out); The game is rigged, the fix is in. The trick was to get everyone to look for the wrong devil.

Pax vobiscum brother

I thoroughly disagree with the comment saying that the Republicans will only be relavent when Obama and the democrats go along with them. Obama, with all his bells and wistles, is a transient man in office. It is when the PEOPLE go with a political party, be it democrats as in last years election, or the Republicans in the past, that any movement gains momentum. Its kind of hard to call the republicans' strategy a political "trick" when the easiest political move to make would be to join the party in power, the democrats, and have a big feel good party and pat themselves on the back for what Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have been predicting to be a "historically" "historical" "moment in history ". Perhaps if congressional democrats had their sights on the people, and not glorifying themselves later in history, they would notice rallies and marches across the country opposing the bill, or more clearly and directly, the voices at town hall meetings in October who fell on deaf ears. Yes, believe it or not, the Republicans do have truck loads, blimp fulls, ass loads of ideas to impart to healthcare reform, such as Tort Reform, a small side-not to the 100000000000000 page bill (I exeagerate, but I like most stop reading a law after it exeeds a couple pages, and for good reason, because I don't want to be told what to do by Doestoyevsky or the Teacher from Peanuts). Unfortunately, the republicans' ideas will go more towards de-fanging this monstrous bill, whose venom could be just as deadly to the innovations and progress in medicine as the diseases they try to prevent. Oh, and Insurance hand-out? uhhhh yeah, when they intend to fork over most of their profits to the feds. More of hand out would be medicare, whose treck towards bankruptcy we plan to follow in this bill. Demantaling this bill, much like the beurocracies of FDR's day, will be worth the unpopularity republicans may suffer until we get a REAL health care exchange: Your dollars for your health, with no one but a doctor in between.

Yep, they're going to repeal it just like they repealed Medicare the last time they were in charge.

To current89 I say "strategy," I ain't got to show you no stinkin strategy. You sleep with these dogs, you are a dog. I don't vote for these cowards, "It only encourages them." Time for change brother or sister. Think outside the box, the cell, the trap. Read!

Pax vobiscum

To treewolf39 who is "looking for an honest government." Honest government on this part of the rock is an oxymoron. Sort of like "common sense" or "military intelligence." Good luck grasshopper, the fix is already in and you are babbling about something that can not exist, until we promote an intelligent populace. Why would that get backing from the powers that be? It wouldn't. Power is never given, it is taken. The clock is ticking, like a weakened blood vessel in your (or my) brain. Kinda scary? Consider the alternative and go back to school. Read!

Pax vobiscum, brother or sister

Brilliant strategy (sarcasm)! There is no way they'll be able to win 40+ House seats and 20+ Senate seats. They can run on it, but its a completely hollow promise.

Good. They need to distance themselves from this Unconstitutional, anti freedom piece of junk legislation. I hope they kick the liberal fools right out into the street in November

What are Republicans good for? With them in charge they would allow insurance companies to continue their discriminatory practices, and charge prices that only certain people could afford.

They might win back a few seats in congress next year, Which will really stall government. Hopefully we will get some more independents like Bernie Sanders. A lot depends on how the supreme court rules on corporate campaign donations.

If it is proposed by the Democrats the Republicans will always go oppositional. That has been and will remain their only strength, except to rely on the stupidity of the American public, a truly renewable if not perpetual resource. As far as Republican, Democrats and their corporate masters; as we used to muse in country, "kill em all and let God sort it out." That was when I was a terrorist for America. Pax vobiscum.

Um....excuse me. Did I just read that Republican hate big government? Please stop with the regurgitated political rhetoric and look at the way Republicans have VOTED in Congress over the past 8 years. The best year is 2003. The Republicans expanded the entire government by half a trillion dollars!!!!!

Don't believe me? Grab a calculator and something to write on. Then pull up the voting record for 2003. You may do so through he following websites:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/?zsacategory=Politics&p=1&ac...|1803347916

or

http://www.senate.gov/index.htm

It even gives you their party affiliation when they voted. Now I am not trying to defend the Dems here either because as you will see they are just as bad at spending more than we make. However I will give them credit for being honest about their shortcomings financially. The Republicans have adopted the most hypocritical position I have ever seen in 20 years of following politics.

Yeah! Unfortunately they'll just support medicare and other forms of big government spending as soon as one of their own is in office. This is the nature of an unrepresentative government.

If the health care bill is so great, why did they pass it at 2 in the morning on Christmas eve when they knew no one would be watching?

I live in a country where the only healthcare plan available is the public option. We're spending less money on healthcare than the States, and everybody gets the same coverage. Yes, I'm probably paying more taxes than the average American, but hey, it doesn't cost me a cent if I brake my leg. And no, I don't have to wait forever before getting treated.

they are all a bunch of paid crooks, on the taxpayer payroll, and on the corporatocracy payroll. There is scarcely a handful of them capable of doing the right thing. Hell, they wouldn't know the right thing if it sat on their lap, I am so disgusted with Congress. Once they have mandated healthcare, what will stop them from mandating treatments...the stage has already been set for that, and do they ever really do anything to stop the corporations that are making us all sick? Hell no.

If repuplicans have such wonderful ideas on how to expand access, improve quality and lower costs,...how come they were unable to do all 3 when they had full controll of house senate and presidency, a few years back....
from what I can remember, their entire health care bill did not have a single cost covered, as the entire amount of the bill was just added to the national debt, it did not expand coverage as there are now more uninsured with McBushies changes than any point in history, and it did not improve quality...end of story...
hot gas gets all the news coverage now a days.

One of the only loophole-proof price controls, the "public option," is found in the House version (the watered down version - insurance exchange) and that might get bargained away. If we lose that, there is nothing to stop insurance lawyers from finding ways for the insurance companies to screw the consumer who is FORCED to pay their premiums. If we lose the public option and still have to purchase insurance, I will vote for WHOEVER is willing to repeal the idiotic subsidized health insurance legislation - Republican, Democrat or Independent (I prefer the latter if we could get some viable candidates)!

I think the only two items on that truck the Republicans drive are larger tax cuts for the wealthiest and even less regulation of banking and corporate interests...that is all they ever have to offer....will that dog hunt again, who knows. If there are enough desperate people who believe that they have a "secret plan" to make everyone rich it just might. You know, a revised trickle down policy...the premise being that if we will just let the gluttons further engorge themselves there will be more crumbs falling to the floor for the rest of us. People fell for it in the past, so why not again, seems to be the thinking of the Republican party.

they could start by getting rid of the mandate...first they tell you that you have to have health insurance, and then they will tell you what treatments you are required to have. A line has been crossed, and they got us across that line by allowing years of health insurance abuse. People have become so desperate to end the abuse, that they don't realize they are giving away essential liberties for something that should be ours without mandates to purchase products. The solution is NOT to create an even greater abuse by mandating that all persons must have some form of health insurance...that one has GOT TO GO!

Ha! What parts of the bill are they going to repeal? The part about insurance companies not being allowed to deny coverage? That'll go over really well.

Frankly, I'm surprised the GOP is still mad about this bill, considering it's a giant insurance company handout. There's almost nothing "government run" about it, save for the whole insurance exchange thing (which will probably have little power over anything).

They're in a tough position and they know it. They can either support the bill and make Obama look good, or oppose it and risk looking like stonewallers to a grateful public.

Let's see this truck load of ideas the Repubs have. They've got a couple of months to come up with something...

haven't they been doing that all session?

The Republicans are only relevant if they can get enough Democrats to go along with them (including Obama). Otherwise what they do and say means nothing.

Once again they only say they disagree with what is being done and offer no real alternatives. Only the most naive voters would fall for this childish tactic. I doubt that they will turn anyone with this strategy. And as for Contant saying that "Republicans have a truck full of ideas on how to expand access, improve quality, and lower costs" I would like to know when the party of no answers came up with this stuff? If they have a "truck full of ideas" maybe they should try to base their campaigns on them instead of their negative view of everything the Democrats are doing.

and it will put each and every one of them into office. The dems will lose big time in 2010. I asked a year ago if anyone wanted to bet me when obama won. No one wanted to.
any takers??

I will bet the first 5 people 100 dollars.

Let me guess your arguement before you even give it. They are being dumbed down by FOX NEWS and they dont think for themselves right. Glenn Becks fault most likely.