Community | January 02, 2010 | 20 comments

Irish atheists challenge new blasphemy laws

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Secular campaigners in the Irish Republic defied a strict new blasphemy law which came into force today by publishing a series of anti-religious quotations online and promising to fight the legislation in court.

The new law, which was passed in July, means that blasphemy in Ireland is now a crime punishable with a fine of up to €25,000 (£22,000).

It defines blasphemy as "publishing or uttering matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion, with some defences permitted".

The justice minister, Dermot Ahern, said that the law was necessary because while immigration had brought a growing diversity of religious faiths, the 1936 constitution extended the protection of belief only to Christians.

But Atheist Ireland, a group that claims to represent the rights of atheists, responded to the new law by publishing 25 anti-religious quotations on its website, from figures including Richard Dawkins, Björk, Frank Zappa and the former Observer editor and Irish ex-minister Conor Cruise O'Brien.

Michael Nugent, the group's chair, said that it would challenge the law through the courts if it were charged with blasphemy.

Nugent said: "This new law is both silly and dangerous. It is silly because medieval religious laws have no place in a modern secular republic, where the criminal law should protect people and not ideas. And it is dangerous because it incentives religious outrage, and because Islamic states led by Pakistan are already using the wording of this Irish law to promote new blasphemy laws at UN level.

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20 comments // Irish atheists challenge new blasphemy laws

  • ryan8566
  • thewhompus
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • blas·phe·my
      Pronunciation: \ˈblas-fə-mē\
      Function: noun
      Inflected Form(s): plural blas·phe·mies
      Date: 13th century
      1 a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity
      2 : irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable

      It has always been my position that all religions were blasphemous because they all claim the attributes of deity. They all show contempt and lack of reverence for God, because each religion's portrayal is based on a human anthropomorphic view of God that is mostly negative and designed to scare the masses into submission.

      I believe that it could very easily be argued that religion itself is blasphemous. Abolish religion and there will be no more blasphemy.

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • never take for granted living in a nation with freedom of speech. While western Europe is better than the states in many categories (healthcare, standard of living, quality of life) , we are still better in many others.

    • 2 years ago
  • Poe1986
  • unimatrix0
  • Jfoe
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      Jfoe  
    • In an ideal world, of course no one would intentionally offend other people. And that's a good thing. It's not polite to intentionally offend others. The problems lie both in the subjectivity of the interpretation of the law (What is "grossly abusive or insulting"), and the opportunity for judicial corruption, resulting in legally persecuting the non-religious.

    • 2 years ago
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • I would say "That's crazy" BUT we have (and always have) had blasphemy laws in Oklahoma where I live.

      Look it up if you don't believe me. You can get fined something like a dollar for blasphemy on Sundays according to the Oklahoma Constitution.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nephwrack
  • MirrorLake
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  
    • Hmmm. I'm curious as to how the courts will interpret this law. The conduct must be not merely insulting but "grossly" insulting...what does that even MEAN? Whether something is insulting or not is pretty subjective by itself...when, I wonder, does the insult become "gross?" Then there is the matter of the noted defenses. I have a feeling that the defenses are going to end up swallowing the statute. Not many judges I know -- even in a relatively conservative state -- are very eager to convict people for mere insults...

    • 2 years ago
  • H3ADLINE
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      H3ADLINE  
    • Keep up the good fight against religious censorship! :) I wonder how the fundamentalist fools think outright censorship helps their cause...it's baffling.

    • 2 years ago
  • ryan8566
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      ryan8566  
    • The story also includes quotes from jesus, mark twain, mohammed, saldom rushie among others; and it is important to note that this law was pushed and passed with the pressure of the Roman Catholic Church, which despite so many convicted priests and bishops for raping young boys, is still, statiscally 80% Roman Catholic, altho according to the Irish media, 'the benches are emptying'.

    • 2 years ago
  • SleepDirt
  • artemis6
  • EdJoyProductions
  • desertcat
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      desertcat  
    • They should never of made Stephen the first Christian saint for being stoned to death without explaining he was stoned for crimes against the Jewish law not for his actions as a christian. He was stoned for blasphemy, which was the Jewish law at the time and Stephen being Jewish. Take away the peoples right to criticize religion is the first step in demolishing free speech. Whats next return performance of the Inquisition.

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
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      Progresshiv  
    • Religious fundamentalism has apparently intimidated the Irish legislature into surrendering secular civil rights, just as it cowed America into enacting the Patriot Act. The two democracies are acting like whipped dogs, bellies up, tongues out, and tails between their legs.

      Dear religious fundamentalists: you have no special rights. Dear government censors: you have no constitutional right to arbitrate the free exchange of ideas.

    • 2 years ago
  • mindcruzer
  • Nephwrack
  • versasrev
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