Mumbai to run out of water in 200 days

Uhm, somehow "we" are supposed to cause the entire world to develop a uniform moral code? Do right? Care for each other? Stop wars? Make sure everybody is well fed and warm and has nice clean drinking water too? And if we fail it reflects poorly on us? We're at fault because everybody rejects our idea of a great moral code?

You've gone all the way to plaid Jan. How can we give people all those things when we don't have them? How can we make people agree with each other when over here we value disagreement? We value it plus we're proud of it because it makes us different. That's what we are so that's all we can export, unless we export Hypocrisy too.

A well-articulated & presented post Jan. I find the idea interesting, that we could "suck the oceans dry"!!! Changing people is a worthy objective. One obstacle to that is that new people keep being born into the total... and they aren't being brought on board to your good ideas fast enough.

That means the number of total people is always pulling ahead of the number of changed people knowing what you know and living accordingly... so much as your ideas are right, and your objective is right, I don't quite see success in your (our) future.

Uhm, you're missing something. Leverage. You need some leverage that makes people want to listen to your message and obey it. In lieu of leverage the Republicans keep trying the Fear tactic. Unfortunately, Fear only works a couple times then people lose interest seeing that Fear has nothing backing it up, such as let's say Public Hangings. A Firing Squad.

Jan, again a great post. Getting people to do all those things you see need doing is a real trick. Between television ads used to program people with false ideas about Energy, done by the Oil Coal and Natural Gas consortium, and the broadside constantly delivered by highly-paid & ever-present congressional lobbyists neither your ideals or my engines have much of a chance.

In 2004 I coined the phrase "imitation energy" telling people how water and air can be heated and cooled respectively and brought together inside an engine cylinder for a tornadic combustion-less explosion, but there's a million people out on the Internet re-assuring people over and over how wrong I have to be. Until one gets built, my engine is defeated by too many naysayers shouting me down using false bottom explanations, many of them just a simple case of ignorance.

But I feel this way Jan, that if just one of my engine designs got built it might provide the leverage factor you are missing. It would make people do better once they saw a light at the end of the tunnel that actually was real. But you see, opponents of my engines also realize that, and they know it's in their interest and survival for that not to happen.

They fear my engines because in them they see more change than they can allow. They know that amount of change would be contagious. Power like what my engines gives people would definitely light a fire that would be unstoppable.

Not an entirely bad plan, chaos1, but I see one flaw. You're making an assumption the polar ice is clean for drinking. Rumour has it it has some polar bear poop, penguin poop, and some strange stuff looks like hmm Bailey's burgers he threw out the other day before we could convince him not to.

Keep trying. You show great promise.

Chaos1, to aid you in your qwest it will be helpful if you develop a keener eye than most, so you can distinguish between the half empty and the half full cup. Now most people when they read a page like this one => they see lots of empty cup => http://www.newpath4.com/1100russianwomensteamingangryatmen.htm , and they completely miss the words of praise and honor I showed toward the disenfranchised women and children, including the ones in Mumbai, the trusting ones who know deep in their heart someone out here has the answers.

Be chaotic, yet try not to miss the other half of the cups. That page contains a lot of full cup. Those who approach it expecting to see bad will see bad. That isn't the way to do. See what's there, then decide. And if just one in Mumbai stops what they're doing and asks using the word Please they might just get all the rain they need.

Theres nothing a little bit of filtering can fix. Assuming there's no metals in the polar ice. And well, you always gotta look at situations like this with the "half full" point of view. You won't get any answers griping over what you don't have. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! XD

Why do you keep mentioning Al Gore here?

Internet bots thrive on repetition of text. Al Gore is a hard worker. I respect that. Your continued appeals to a Group of increasingly POOR people not so much. Appeals to the powerless won't have the effect you want. Everybody who knows a smidgeonroonie of Science knows the answers to many of Earth's major problems has been known for some time, so this situation is NOT just happening. It is Caused.

Tesla discovered a power in the air that shook an entire New York city block. Mr. Floyd Sweet in 1987 built a device that harnessed that power and converted it into useable electricity we should have right now, that could could for instance power up all the desalination systems anyone could ever want.

There is much being kept from us. Kept from the prematurely dying. Children being killed, not just dying, murdered the world over. A mass hatred of all men, women and children is in evidence. Your pleas are heartfelt, I know, but it's like asking someone for help as it comes their turn to step into the gas chamber.

Partly because the people who are gifted enough to have enough resources and means to help are off saving whales on the Sea Shepherd.

Choosing to get swept away with the crowd that rejects God's Kingdom is a suck egg choice Jan. Your loyalty is misplaced. The winner who walks out of all this devastation is plainly stated at Daniel 2 verse 44.

Everything opposing Jesus' rulership gets the axe, soon. You're standing on the wrong side of the Sunday chicken chopping block.

The playbook you espouse has never worked but one time Jan, and the reason it worked was because God allowed it to work, in 1776. It established the playbook the majority today are strapped to its side and going over Niagara Falls still shouting to the top of their lungs it still works, we can still win, just one more Down.

The next prophecy in Revelation due to come true is blood up to the bridles of the horses. No one can swim in blood Jan. It coagulates up and is sticky.

It's time you throw away old plays and find a new angle.

You can be right with Al Gore and his crowd or you can get right with God.

Take an honest look at the size of the problems and then realize it would take a million Al Gores and he still wouldn't be able to fix them. Want to know why Jan? It's because at the end of every equation they write says they get and stay Rich. Riches are like Energy. They don't come from nothing.

Riches in one man's pockets means millions like you and me having v/little in our pockets. Now Obama is doing the same chicken walk. You're living in a toilet flush Jan and the people in charge keep pressing down on the same handle. They say thanks Jan as you and your daughter are sacrificed down the toilet, with the 317 chemicals into the ground.

You don't even rate being collateral damage. And that satchel of "Human Rights" you're clutching hasn't the value it had in 1776. It has currency of 2010 value. Only God's Kingdom has a Plan to save everybody that lives right. In this world we are all peons, being sold these tiny cars big enough for Philipinos not large boned Americans.

We're being treated like scum Jan. All if us. How many of you voted for this? Zero, nada. You voted for positive change and you got nuthin'. $700 billion spent on the Election, then Obama sent out an e-mail asking for even more (so he could secretly reimburse Hilary Clinton her $20 million).

Your playbook Jan. You want it, you can hug it. Pray to it too if ya want. It won't answer you.

I don't even know what you are talking about. I was responding to the comment above this who wished Mumbai to dry up. Not a very Jesuslike thing to wish for. So save your preaching for someone who needs it.

And what, pray tell, do you know about Mumbai that makes you think it's ok for millions of people to possibly die of dehydration?

And another thing. Remember how China has dammed up their largest river, and how the ground underneath the big lake collapsed and caused the quake that killed all the children? Alright, that's where the water went. It went down into the ground.

China is at fault. India should sue the Chinese government. Cut & dry lawsuit. China should have to foot the entire bill for ocean water desalination plants for India.

Gravity_Man, You rock.

Rocks, treewolf, don't do much. We store energy. We wait for the big mother to come, the mother rock, and when it comes I'll have enough energy stored up they put me on the nose of the rocket, like Slim Pickens. They stop the mother with the sun.

im gonna sound like a nay sayer but im not sure what a charity could really do. Transporting water is one of the most expensive things to transport. Especially for the amount needed to solve it in the short term. I could see any of the charities would have such a high overhead cost that not much money would actually go to putting water in cups to drink.

The Polar Bear Charity isn't doing so good either. Maybe a letter to the Pope and His Holiness will get up off his big gold inlaid chair and make a phone call.

There are plenty of people in our own country that breed exponentially. Many religions, including some Christians don't believe in birth control. Should we target them too? Or is it just all the brown people that shouldn't procreate so much? Don't get me wrong, we are completely overpopulated as a planet, and we have completely disregarded the Law of Survival of the Fittest, but now that the damage is done, how do we decide who DESERVES to live or die?

Ummm, so would you want to be part of that eliminated half? What the hell, we can't just go killing people from society?! There may be too many people in the near future for populations to live comfortably, but what we need is more education on the topic, and more in depth studies on it. We already have population control through suffering...
- Crime
- War
- Disease
- Natural Disasters
There would be no reason to add to that. It's depressing enough to think of those things.

Actually, much of the freshwater unavailable to people now, especially in developing countries has been privitized and polluted by corporate interests. Do you want them to go first perhaps? This is about access as well as it is with food. Amazing how some want to play God but don't offer any real solutions. And while population is indeed part of this, it is actually usage and other factors like pollution and privitization that are the crux of this crisis along with climate change, and that has been primarily exacerbated by the behavior of western countries that think they are favored over all others so they have the right to pollute and befoul the earth at the expense of all of us.

@hayden, Okay, Mr. Georgia Guidestones eugenics program. That's the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Let's start with you and your family since you think that's the right thing to do.

I always want a political answer? I think you have me mistaken for someone else.

That's why meetings like Kyoto and Copenhagen fail. Everyone comes with their own self-serving agenda, so you end up having people walk out, or refuse to sign, whichever. My engine doesn't specifically solve THIS particular problem but that page opens a door to other engine solutions that escape certain laws (mentioned in the page) that til now have kept us using combustion engines.

I've shown a way out your groups have all denied exists. Where there is one paradigm answer there are OTHERS, and they are NOT achieved by a group of idealess people. They issue forth from one person. Many times a Man.

You don't want any of these. You want your agenda to succeed. Group win.

I'm not totally against agendas I have one of my own. I want that car engine built and in production. I have another paradigm level engine system that would solve Mumbai. My car engine gets built first. That's my price, my agenda, my self-imposed requirement that I have a right to insist on.

But that messes you around because I'm not a Group I am one individual. I'm not supposed to win according to your mindset. I'm supposed to go along with some Group and get my rights from the Group.

And you're coming close to being a Communist.

I don't think it will be that long. I say in 50 to 100 days people will start to riot then all hell will break loose. Then the army will be forced to take action then war.

well less people would certainly solve the water consumption problem, but who knows when or if this problem will explode. Let us remeber that they are only talking about the city of Mumbai. They might just sipon water from nearby cities to fill the gap.

Logos this doesn't make any sense. With all the extra water from the arctic ice melting there ought to be plenty of water moisture in the air the monsoons should be there. I'm at a loss to know many answers. I will offer this, that so many US companies out-sourced jobs to India they caused this problem by bring in so many Americans who are used to running big tubs of bath water.

So maybe they need to outsource the Americans out to America.

Well, india has no shortage of water, but the do have a shortage of drinkable water. India has a really crappy sewer system, no pun intended, many people just go on the street. The rain mixes with the waste, and well you get the idea.

Privatized companies are already trying to buy the great lakes. Villages in Africa are forbidden to collect rainwater. And the WTO forces the removal of Tariffs on crops so that villages have to sell off their water supply to pay off their debts. This is the sick mistreatment of power and the gross negligence of humanity.

Yes, that was the loophole in the Great Lakes Compact. And the World Bank and WTO are the prime exacerbators of world debt brought on by speculation. But then that is what banks are really in business for: to keep people slaves to debt. It is indeed a gross negligence of humanity.