Racist? Glenn Beck: African-American ‘a bogus, PC, made-up term’; ‘not a race’

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“African-American is a bogus, PC, made-up term,” Beck said, in a discussion about the new Census forms.
“That is not a race. Your ancestry is from Africa, and now you live in America. Okay, so you were brought over, either your family was brought over in the slave trade, or you were born here and your family immigrated here, or whatever. But that is not a race.”
full story and Video of BECKS Comments...http://ctpatriot1970.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/racist-glenn-beck-african-american...
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AllPeople
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Contrary to common assumption -- the
terms "Black" and "African-American" DO
NOT actually even mean the same thing.In addition, contrary to the ASSumptions made by
the ignorant and uninformed, the group currently
referred to by the term of African-American are
NOT the ones who gave them that particular name.````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
AAs & BAs: The KEY difference
between these TWO (2) groups ...````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
The African-Americans (AAs) are an ETHNIC
grouping of people that is comprised ONLY of:*** The 'Descendants-Of-The-Survivors' of
the chattel-slavery system that took place on
the 'continental' United States of America
during the antebellum era of its history.***Most (+70%) -- although not all -- of the people
who are born to two (2) AA parents are found to
have an ancestral "racial" lineage that includes
varying amounts of African (45-55%), Amerindian
(+25%) and also European (+20-30%) bloodlines
-- that were both admixed into and "continually
remained" within the lineage of their families.(Meaning they are of the Mixed-Race category that is
referred to as "Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed"
or as 'MGM-Mixed' racially-admixed ancestral lineage)Thus, this incredibly unique ETHNIC group of people is
actually not seen (by most scientists and geneticist)
as being a 'Black' RACE group (or any sort of RACE
group) at all --- but rather they are seen as actually
being comprised of people that span across
the following "racial" categories and groups ...**** Multiracial
(about 70% of the AAs -- ex. Jayne Kennedy)**** Black
(about 20% of the AAs -- ex. Oprah Winfrey)**** Biracial
(about 5% of the AAs -- ex. Jennifer Beals)**** Amerindian or White
(about 5% of the AAs -- ex. Walter White)````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
The Black Americans (BAs) are a RACE
grouping of people that consists ONLY of:***The 'Volitional Immigrants' that are from nations
that are found all over the world and who are both
Fully of the Black Race group and who are also
NOT the descendants-of-the-survivors of the
chattel slavery system that was once found
on the continental United States of America.***As noted, the BAs are a RACE group and
are seen as being of a fully-Black lineage.````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
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AllPeople
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2helenahandbasket
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"while someone with brown skin is considered by glen beck to be.... well he didnt give any alternatives, he just said they arent african american."
Glen Beck is not the one who named black people "African Americans". THEY named themselves African Americans, back when they decided they didn't want to be called "Colored", or "Black". All Beck was saying was, "African American" is not a race. He is correct. The correct term for the black race is "Negro", which means "black", just as "Caucasian" is the term for whites. Neither signifies WHERE a person came from. Black people should not be offended by a term signifying the color of their skin, just as "Caucasian" signifies a person is light skinned.
The definition of Caucasian, according to Webster's is -- ".......... characteristic of a race of humankind native to Europe, North Africa, and southwest Asia and classified according to physical features —used especially in referring to persons of European descent having usually light skin pigmentation." Who has a problem with that? This is the discription of "white" people. Why would black people have a problem being called "Negro", or, black?
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maasanova
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I find it hilarious that liberals and progressives make a big deal about issues with race, especially with the blacks community. In fact I just did a quick search to see if this non-issue appeared on any blogs, forums or news sites dedicated to the black community and surprise surprise I couldn't find one. Of course I could be wrong, but I saw this on all the usual "progressive" websites: Stink Progress, Media Matters ect, which I know do not cater to the black community in America.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
How true. In my city, we have bigger things to worry about. The democrats in my city give 10 times what the black communities put into the pot back into their communities to buy votes.
In 20 years I haven't seen much change for this "investment" Maybe me noticing that what we are doing isn't working makes me a racist too?
We have families who don't work with free rent, food, heat, electrical, child care, health, schooling, job placement, earned income credits and more. Doesn't sound too hard to me, besides they all get new car loans because they have no debt and "cashflow"
My car is 10 years old, they have a 2008-2010 with $3000 wheels.
My property taxes keep raising to pay for this.
I get mad when i'm the only one at the grocery store with cash.
There are homes around here for sale for $3000 and next door, we are paying $1400/mo for section 8 to rent a similar structure.
How anyone could be struggling with a $3000 mortgage, i will never understand!
But if they tax me enough, we will all be equal. Equally poor. - 2 years ago
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olddogdaddy
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in my naivete i presumed that there has always been only one 'label' to describe homo-sapiens, human beings.
cultures vary geographically and therefore people have an innate need to preserve their identities...nothing wrong with that. it is diversity of culture that has made this country the greatest nation in the history of mankind.
hyphenated Americans seem to want to distinguish themselves, but to me it seems ridiculous because of the way it divides all people.
Most people born in another country have come to the land of oppurtunity to become the part of the generic label of "Americans". Immigrants seem to try the hardest to become part of what was once a melting pot of world culture.
my ancestry hails from western europe, when they arrived in this country the prejudices and bigotry was so great that they refused to teach their children their native language. Traditions were often kept within the home and shared only with friends.
I was born in America, that should make me a native American, [no offense to the aboriginal Americans for the "might makes right culture" from which we have evolved].
I was also born in the hills of the Onondagas, the faith keepers of the Haudenoshaunee Nations. The 'people of the hills' that helped us to develop the U.S. Constitution by sharing their own "Great Law of Peace"
The history of all cultures living in America is worth celebration by all citizens, so long as it is a way to bring us all together. Hyphenation is an insult to all Americans as it invites seperatism and racist perspectives that only work to keep us divided and consequently conquerable... and the government likes it that way!
so...drop that which seperates us, for the power is truly with the people, if we just get off our butts, make known our views and stop listening to the ruling W.A.S.P. mentalities that have sought to keep us divided throughout our history!
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olddogdaddy
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bike10
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Shades of Joe McCarthy in the 21st. century.
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bike10
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Cynic2
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We've been called everything. Me, I would normally say that AFRICAN AMERICAN is an ethnic group, but Africa is a CONTINENT, not a country. But I guess it (the term AFRICAN AMERICAN)'s cool enough for now, I'd have to call African Americans a GROUP. But remember, the human RACE is African-derived.
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Cynic2
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hobosrule
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So by that logic then he isn't american he's European since his ancestry sure as hell isn't in America. Why don't we go further and just say that he's Ethiopian as his ancestors came from came from there as it's the cradle of humanity
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hobosrule
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samthesixth
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How is this racist?
- 2 years ago
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samthesixth
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western7
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I hate to admit it, but Glenn Beck is right. African American is not a race. It is way to general. For a long time now, it has bothered me that all people of African ancestry are grouped in one huge category. An African American is supposed to mean someone who immigrated from Africa- or has parents that did or still has family there etc. I think the term AA was coined by Jesse Jackson in the 60s or 70s to instill pride in people. AA's have African origin, but I know of many who's ancestry consists of many other races. I think the gov't just tried to lump all black people in 1 category, which isn't fair. On the same census they divided other nationalities. What about my Somali friend who has been in the U.S. for a year? Is he considered AA? Just saying. I'm sick of the gov't being inconsiderate.
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western7
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ras_menelik
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I am an African-American that is my heritage.
I am a human that is my Race.War!
What life has taught me
I would like to share with
Those who want to learn...Until the philosophy which hold one race
Superior and another inferior
Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned
Everywhere is war, me say warThat until there are no longer first class
And second class citizens of any nation
Until the color of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the color of his eyes
Me say warThat until the basic human rights are equally
Guaranteed to all, without regard to race
Dis a warThat until that day
The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship
Rule of international morality
Will remain in but a fleeting illusion
To be perused, but never attained
Now everywhere is war, warAnd until the ignoble and unhappy regimes
that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique,
South Africa sub-human bondage
Have been toppled, utterly destroyed
Well, everywhere is war, me say warWar in the east, war in the west
War up north, war down south
War, war, rumours of warAnd until that day, the African continent
Will not know peace, we Africans will fight
We find it necessary and we know we shall win
As we are confident in the victoryOf good over evil, good over evil, good over evil
Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil - 2 years ago
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Ajil
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I wonder what the Native Americans would call so called European "immigrants"...
With that in mind, I wonder what they would call the people of this land, and themselves.
We clearly still suffer from European Colonial times. The claiming of property, creating borders and nation-state-identities. This is just a one of many feats to overcome. However it wasn't until after WWII that Winston Churchill met with many other leaders to draw the borders of the Middle East. They're failure to understand the region led to the grouping of various ethnic sects, while developing forms of governments that would lead the struggle for power we still see today.
We are all citizens of the world, Earth, Gaia... etc. There have been many titles and labels we have given ourselves, and of others. There are more to come with time.
The term "African American" does strike me as odd. Reason being is that it would have to specified by each individual, regardless of skin color. Ever meet a South African? There are many of British decent, making their skin color quite white. The one I met had a father from South Africa and mother from The United States of America. She could be seen as African American.
If any United States citizen travels up to Canada, you may encounter a customs officer that seems rather uptight on the claim of your nationality. Canada happens to also be located on the North American Continent.
So when the customs officer asks, "What is your nationality?" and you say, "American," don't be surprised if they grunt and repeat they're question. Either they will continue repeating until you get it right, or run out of my patience and correct you, "I think you mean your an United States of America citizen." An experience I've been through in Montreal.It is not racist to question labels that have been deemed acceptable. However, from what I gather, Beck seems to imply those of African decent, with ancestors from the slave trade, do not happen to be as American as those of European decent; well that is the grandest of self-including-insults. I used 'self-including' because the insult is suggesting those of European decent are some how superior to others, while neglecting the history of this region and the original occupants.
I just got back from watching Avatar, I'm all for fighting for the Navis right now. Humans suck.
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ImConcerned:
You're forgetting that many people are immigrants from Africa and identify themselves as African. Sheesh, are they invisible to Americans or something?
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western7
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Like many have said, I might not agree where Glenn Beck is coming from (not to necessarily be a part of excessive hate against him, but the statistics aren't in his favor in terms of his morality), but I agree the term, like all hyphenated terms, is quite useless and misleading. The idea of race is entirely false, as there's so much variation in physical traits across all lines that no real concept of racial purity can exist. With that said, I see the value in the census, at very least to challenge misconceptions and stereotypes.
I feel that the best and most fair way to do any, for a lack of a better term, racial generalization would be tracking ancestry. Artic, North , Central, South American, Eastern and Western European, Asian, North, South, East, West, Central African, ... essentially the list could go on ad infinitum, or be generalized by continents. But what's most important is that people are smart enough to see beyond the surface of terminology and not base their judgments on it. I hope adults have that capability.
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CreatioExNihil
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I think if someone wants to be called African American, let them be called that. Get over it. But then again, Glenn Beck never really makes sense or sticks to important topics, so this is the kind of thing he would bitch about.
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Jubiejanks
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Eesh. I knew this story was going to be bad once I saw that it was about Glen Beck lol. Like many of other people have said, what Glen Beck said is actually correct, although I think he made that statement with different intentions in mind. There was a fantastic article about race in the December 2003 issue of Scientific American entitled "Does Race Exist?" I just want to quote a few things that I thought were really interesting.
"The problem is hard in part because the implicit definition of what makes a person a member of a particular race differs from region to region across the globe."
In other words, "race" is a socially defined construct, especially in the United States. Although we tend to lump, say, all "white" people in one group, there was a time when Irish-Americans were actually considered to be part of a different race. Same thing with Southeastern Europeans.
However, I think Beck makes one significant mistake in his argument. It's almost like he's lumping all "black" people into one group that originated in Africa. The article states: "Most people who describe themselves as African-American have relatively recent ancestors from West Africa...The fraction of gene variations that African-Americans share with West Africans, however, is far from uniform, because over the centuries African-Americans have mixed extensively with groups originating from elsewhere in Africa and beyond." The article continues: "West African contribution to the genes of individual African-Americans averages about 80 percent, although it ranges from 20 to 100 percent."
I think this article points out a lot of discrepancies that we tend to ignore when it comes to the issue of race. Simply said, one can't use genetic information to define race, nor even to support the idea of race.
But of course...Beck wouldn't use any of this information to back up his statement. He's just a "racist" moron. =)
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Jubiejanks
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iamfree
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i'm a dark skinned,American,human.simple
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iamfree:
And you have one of the best screen names on Current.
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slarabee:
You didn't have to deal with racist bullshit simply because you were born much much later in this country's history.
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Scathian
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If you get past the fact he's an idiot, that actually makes sense.
That is not racist at all... - 2 years ago
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Scathian:
I have to slightly disagree. Most educated people will agree that Beck is an idiot, and that his statement is, in fact, true. However, we have to think about his intentions behind that statement. I highly doubt that he said it with scientific evidence in mind.
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I hear what this man is saying, but what would he want us to call ourselves? I too have had the debate about being called an African-American amongst my friends and how it makes us feel. However, to our dismay we live in a country that is entirely too race conscious. I don't know too many Blacks, who would want to refer to themselves as Negroes. Nor, do I know too many who love a name associated with a crayon, black. If you look at the root of the word Negro, it and words with similar spellings, it still means black (ex. negro in spn. and nero in italian) So basically, no matter how we spin it this world, or at least this country, is still focused on the color of the skin. While I understand for the sake of statistics one's race is important, I think we need to realize that race is yet another social construct that creates more divisions than anything else. Hopefully, one day we'll reach a point when we are just considered Americans, without having to specifically define in what way. Unfortunately, for many blacks in this country we don't have the luxury of knowing all of our roots, which only adds to this debate. I guess I should refer to myself with what I do know: I am a combination of Mississippi, Tennessee, and Carolina blood, sprinkled with some Sioux Native Americans, and some Ethiopian blood (saw that on a fam tree once) and possibly some Caucasian, and my skin just happened to come out a little brown... but in the end I'm just an American.
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maasanova
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Caring what Glenn Beck says is actually sillier than what Glenn Beck is actually saying.
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maasanova
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maasanova:
LOL, okay, you have a point there. It is just a guilty pleasure to make fun of him. The fact that he said something that did not make my head explode for a change is sort of news though. :)
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maasanova
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maasanova:
That wasn't directed at you in general. Even when I agree with Beck I'll never bother posting what he says. He's a paid provacatuer who's job is to get liberals all riled up with phony race politics. I don't even think half of his audience pays any attention to what he says.
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maasanova
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I hate Glenn Beck, but these terms do tend to go over the top. I've read countless articles where black British Formula 1 driver (2008 World Champion) has been identified as 'African-American', despite being a British citizen with no ties to America. The same has happened plenty of times to the black boxer Lennox Lewis, who is also a black British man.
The usage of these 'terms' are doing nothing but hindering societal integration. In colloquial speech people do not say, 'Asian-American', they simply say 'Asian', a term that does not differentiate between Asians born in India and Asians born in Seattle.
As somebody said above, I think everybody ought to be called 'American (of X descent)' when the latter half of the description is necessary (when is that?), which, by default, labels everybody as simply 'American'.
http://www.topnflnews.com/ - 2 years ago
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life_4_rent:
Latter part is necessary when doing research on inequality. It isn't really useful beyond that. Just because people ignorantly use these terms out of context does not change the meaning or use of these words. We all hope someday that racial inequality will go away forever but that isn't today. It's similar to calling yourself white when no one has white skin besides albino's I suppose. So you aren't really white it's just a term made up to identify what cultural background you come from. None of these terms accurately describe how people look or feel, but that is because they aren't meant to. Ethnic Background and Race are different things.
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life_4_rent:
current is on a horrible delete streak.
wtf are they going to censor everyone
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C'mon,... does Current really hafta be flooded with Glenn Beck stories?! Whenever we surf Current,... do we really hafta read a plethora of stories about how Glenn's right about THIS thing, we're wrong about THAT thing, THIS "kind" of person is the devil, THAT certain action is unpatriotic or socialistic?!?!?!?! We all know his beliefs, and we all know he's got the blackboard to prove ANY theory,... so let's just leave the Glenn Beck stories to those who care or NEED someone to tell them what to think.
But as for this particular nutso story,... where do we start? Saying "made-up term" means nothing,... since everything is made-up by us. And Glenn calls himself an American, right? (a true, definitive American!) Where is this America he speaks of? This country is "of" America,... so that sounds like "American" is a bogus, made-up term. And God forbid that some people, who may not be sure of their specific country of origin (for horrific reasons), latch on to some kind of heritage label. You can't let people have pride after generations of murder, slavery and culture destruction?!?! And,... is there something that awful about being "PC"? That implies a way of thinking that uses sympathy, empathy, respect and coexistence. You're right, Beck,... PC is a terrible thing! And I second the notion that THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE - THE HUMAN RACE!
And I hereby second, third and fourth the notion that Glenn Beck is a propagandist wacko. I used to be unsure whether he was just a TV host with "smart" ratings-grabbing tactics OR a right-right-wing schizoid nutbar. Today, I pick the latter. He's proven himself to be not just concerned with his show, but concerned with his fear-inducing, intolerant, self-righteous beliefs.
Go away, Glenn Beck! And not to the top of the TV charts, not to the vice president's office, not to your Father FOX office, not to your mansion,......... JUST GO AWAY!
(I actually almost started crying blood while writing this.)
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PajamaDan:
He helped to found and promote the tea-parties. The tea-parties are relevant to the political discussion. On current there are stories about politics. This is where you will usually find Glen Beck among other major DBs(Billorelly, Rush) that are affiliated with mainstream politics. I do not think it will do any good to ignore problems. They say sunshine is the best disinfectant.
Before current and other social new media sites came along, people like Beck faced no opposition and gained popularity with no challenge at all. We need to keep calling these guys out on there BS until they get fired and lose their shows.
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indecisiveh
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hunzedog
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he never stole any of my money............
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hunzedog:
Are you sure of that?
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kitteneater
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I agree with him, which feels funny. Like using dry shampoo.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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I had to read it twice to be sure. He is racist but I have to agree with him on this as well. Glad I'm not alone in the horrible bizarro world where I agree with Glenn Beck.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste:
It is very uncomfortable, Brush, but he will do something any minute now that will put him right back on the bat-shit-insane list. We can go back to making fun of him and all will be right with the world. :D
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Glen, shut up. The rational, intelligent people are talking.
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Logos51891:
LOL! Hilarious. I'll have to use that one sometime. ;-)
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CalgarC
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fuck faux news...
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voldypoo
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I love black people :)
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I agree that we are all in the human race and that much of what we know about race is scientifically inaccurate; our perceptions of race and racial identity are primarily social constructs.
However, are they always useless? I'll give an example that's similar to the census- as a Red Cross trainer, there is an optional part in my paperwork to record the races of the people attending CPR/First Aid classes. Another trainer I work with says she never fills it out, because she's offended that they would ask- but I see it from another point of view. The Red Cross is very interested in diversity- so if they notice that "African-Americans" represent a very small percentage of people being trained in CPR, they will do outreach work in "black" communities. In this way, the use of racial identity is meant to uncover social inequalities. The reason we still need to do this, as in the case of censuses, is because there still are MANY of these social inequalities in America (and the world.)
The fact that "African-American" is not really a "race" didn't prevent us from keeping people as slaves and discriminating against them nor did it prevent the government from neglecting black communities.
Did Glenn only cover the census's use of "African-American"? What about the use of the term "Negro," "American Indian" instead of "Native American", the changes to Hispanic options?
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DeliaTheArtist:
Excuse me for asking, but isn't that racist? I mean, for an organization to target a specific "race"? If the Red Cross is low in Red headed americans; does "it" go out and do "outreach work in" communities majority populated by Red heads? Now, Glen Beck may be a "racist", but his statements, although misguided, ring true of the sentiments of unity organizations. I can understand the Red Cross's embracement of diversity, but I do not understand it's need to equally represent different colors of people. I think the Red Cross should establish its diversity through personal characteristics, such as personality, rather than genetic aberrations.
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DeliaTheArtist:
I don't think they are targeting a specific area per se, and before I go on let me make it clear that I don't work for the Red Cross, I have a trainer certification through them. I'm only expressing my opinion.
Anyway, if education of life saving skills like CPR and First Aid are low in certain "racial" categories, we should ask ourselves why- are classes available in many different locations? Are people aware these classes exist? Are they too expensive? This type of research leads to more widespread information.
Research like this in other fields can be useful as well, like medicine. To tie the issues together, heart disease is the number one killer in America- but black men are 30% more likely to die from heart disease (http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=3018) Again, we ask ourselves why- and a class in CPR could help you save someone suffering from a heart attack.
So it's not so much about targeting racial groups as looking for patterns of societal inequality, figuring out the reasons for them, and working towards solutions.
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DeliaTheArtist:
Very well put Delia. As a trained first responder I definitley agree about trying to address why certain racial groups suffer more than others.
- 2 years ago
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gonzo138
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DeliaTheArtist:
Yes, you make an excellent point. Kudos to your past, and future endeavors.
- 2 years ago
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unimatrix0
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Beck has been open and up front with his racism for quite some time. His tea party 9/12 crap was supported by known white supremacists, and white supremacists are a driving force behind the tea party movement.
- 2 years ago
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unimatrix0
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Saladin
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Well, coming from the guy who said slavery wasn't so bad and that Obama is motivated by his hatred of white people (half-hatred of himself I guess), I'd have to say he's being his usual racist self.
Now, whether Beck is -actually- racist or is just saying that to appeal to his racist base is another question.
But make no damn mistake, one way or the other, this has racist intentions. Beck is harvesting the 60's backlash that has been so reliable for the right since Nixon. People like him weren't on the MLK Jr. side of the civil rights debates back then, they were pro-segregation types. Those arguments continue to this day.
And patriot, the reason for all the "hyphens" is because racists don't allow non-whites to integrate. If we just called everyone Americans in this country, there wouldn't be a problem. But some people don't think non-whites are Americans, so we're stuck here.
- 2 years ago
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Saladin
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Saladin:
"racists don't allow non-whites to integrate. If we just called everyone Americans in this country, there wouldn't be a problem. But some people don't think non-whites are Americans, so we're stuck here."
Right, in a sense. But there are many blacks who want to stay seperate just as there are whites. They are the ones who insist on clinging to anything that will allow them to seem apart. They are the ones who insist on "African American" instead of plain old American. Other ethnic groups do not identify themselves by the country they came from (Italian-American). Black people keep racism alive just as white people do.
And Glen Beck is correct. African-American is not a race.
- 2 years ago
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Saladin
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Saladin:
In what sense? That their racial history doesn't belong to Africa?
Race doesn't exist anyway.
- 2 years ago
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masterzip
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by definition there is only one race,..that is the human race...
what people often mistake is their ethnic background for race,....and that is not quite correct..... - 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions
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As much as I enjoy pointing out what an idiot Glenn Beck is, I will actually have to agree with him about this. Probably not for the same reasons, because I will go further and say that all terms that denote race were at some point made up, as were the decisions to treat people of the artificially designated groups they were labeled in any manner other than as human beings.
It is the insistance that people are different because of skin color, religion, national origin or sexual orientation that fuels seperation. It is just another distraction to keep people busy with triviality and never noticing the real problems with the big picture. If everyone would just except the fact that we are all humans and work from there, that would be an amazing hurdle and we could start working on improving the world for all of us.
I wonder what Glenn Beck would think of that? :)
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
Im actually a fan of Glan Beck.. and i pretty much agree with him on this , im curious what everyone else thinks? We have to many hyphenated - americans i think...
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
All terms are made up. Ten million years ago, I strongly suspect we communicated using grunts and body language. Over the course of thousands of years, we made up all the terms currently found in Webster's. We add hundreds of new words to the English dictionary every year. If African Americans want to be called African Americans, how is that a betrayal of anything? Admittedly if people from South America start wanting to be called South American Americans, small children...and Glenn Beck...might become confused. But our language will adapt, just as it always has...
- 2 years ago
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cztheday
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EdJoyProductions:
oooh ooohh ahh ahh cz/?
- 2 years ago
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oppressed1
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EdJoyProductions:
This just reminds me of a story that I heard about a girl at the Special Olympics. A reporter asked her what she wanted to be called, handicapped, developmentally disabled or challenged. The girl answered immediately with, "I want to be called Peggy. Peggy is my name." She was my idol of the week.
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
EdJoy, that IS a great story...now she is my hero of the week
Oppressed1, that is a fascinating proposition, but I am a married man...so I will have to ask permission...
- 2 years ago
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cztheday
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EdJoyProductions:
your a sicko.
LAWL
- 2 years ago
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oppressed1
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EdJoyProductions:
Me? Sicko? :D Awesome
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
Oh brother I dont believe that people are getting all blown out of shape over an opinion (you know what they say about opinions right?). But I will write this... as an American of Italian ancestry that from this day forth I DEMAND to be referred to as an Italian American! And if the Jesse Jackson's, or the Al Sharpton's or any other commentator of colour wish to refer to me as Italian I will be here on this Current TV site venting my anger at these racist commentator's. Oh by the way, as a right wing conservative I really do love Current TV, I watch it all the time even though it is produced by former VP Gore who will end up bankrupting this country for pushing a policy based on his flimsy argument for global warming. We are experiencing now some of the coldest weather this country has seen in years!
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
People shouldn't ignore differences. We aren't all the same.
But that is what's great.
We should embrace our differences and respect them. - 2 years ago
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lopinjop
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EdJoyProductions:
We should ignore preconceived notions about what we think are differences before we even get a chance to know an individual.
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
You mean don't judge a book by its...uh...nevermind.
- 2 years ago
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cztheday
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EdJoyProductions:
importance to Oprah?
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions:
cztheday is on a roll,.............and we owe it to......................Glen Beck?
'not a race' but a fine ironic finish! - 2 years ago
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remanns