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Amazonian plant extract causes cancer cells to commit suicide and T4 Cells to thrive!

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jubal
Hello to all my friends on Current. I want to tell you about something that is frankly unbelievable. However, I am living proof of the efficacy of this plant extract because I have survived for over 30 years living with HIV. When I was first introduced to this plant in 1995, it was in a dried form and was used to make a tea that I would drink on prescribed doses for several weeks. At the time I began treatment with it, I had a T4 cell count of less than 5. A normal T4 cell range is between 1000 and 1500. My infectious disease specialist here in Eugene, Oregon had told me that I was on borrowed time and that I should make preparations to die. Of course I was desperate and wanted to find a Magic Bullet that could save my life, being that the only drugs available at the time was AZT and a few other experimental drugs; all of which carried with them extreme toxicity and could actually kill the patient.

My aunt in Ecuador, had heard about this doctor of Oncology who was doing research on Cancer and HIV in Ecuador after realizing during his residency at a university in Mexico, that most of the Chemotherapy drugs that had gained FDA approval through clinical trials had their origins in natural plants. He decided to continue his work, upon returning to Ecuador by contacting the indigenous tribes in the Amazon and asking them to reveal to him which plants they commonly used for healing.

To anyone who isn't familiar with the Amazon in Ecuador, it is where the Amazon river begins its journey across the South American continent to the Atlantic Ocean. The Amazon jungle is the most biodiverse region in the world with well over 40,000 plant species. The indigenous people of the Amazon have lived there for thousands of years and their Shaman have passed down considerable knowledge of which plants were beneficial for which types of ailments.

So during this doctors research he was introduced to the plant which led to his amazing discovery. He began testing the plant on patients as early as 1989. What immediately became apparent was that only a certain part of the plant was usable and didn't have a toxicity that would hurt the patient. So he gradually came up with a way of harvesting the roots of the plant in order to create a tea and later an extract that contained the most bioactive aspects with the least toxicity. The final product that he developed and patented, worldwide, is completely natural and has absolutely no side effects because it is a carbohydrate of an extremely low molecular weight. It is derived from the plant Solanum Dulcamara. This plant grows wild in the Amazon jungle.

Dr. Edwin Cevallos Arellano from Quito, Ecuador is a doctor of Oncology and Immunology who has studied at the University of Mexico in Mexico City as well as the Military Hospital in Quito Ecuador and other places. He has traveled the world talking about the discovery and efficacy of his synthesized extract from this amazing plant. He has given speeches at Medical Congresses in Canada, Spain, Japan and other places showing the medical evidence of the miraculous recovery of patients who were on Death's Doorstep due to Cancer, Lupus and AIDS who were treated with the extract.

Studies were conducted by Universities in Miami, Florida and Birmingham, Alabama that confirmed the findings of Dr. Cevallos. Patients of his, who had traveled to see him from other parts of the world, were coming back from the brink of death and their doctors in their countries were amazed. They wanted to know what had happened to their patients and discovered that their patients had been treated with the extract. This is how these studies came to be undertaken.

Well I was extremely fortunate to have met Dr. Cevallos on a trip to Ecuador in 1995 and he prescribed the tea, the form it was in that year, and I brought it home with me and began to take it. Things started to change for me almost immediately. I began to feel more energy and I was more mobile. (continued)
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135 comments // Amazonian plant extract causes cancer cells to commit suicide and T4 Cells to thrive!

  • jubal
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  

    • Thanks for posting Jubal.

      This is something I'm actually very passionate about. I think most of our "new found illnesses" are basically (with few exceptions) based on a corrupt diet that's been passed down for generations. Just like plants, when we have all the nutrients we need, we strengthen our bodies and we can block infection or better repair the damage taken by our DNA that happens thousands of times a day in every cell (literally).

      I could go on for hours on the subject, but just wanted to show my support. Animals now know more than we do about medicinal plants (seriously). We're becoming so disconnected thinking that our inorganic molecules can save us from the storm we're creating and it just isn't the case.

      Nature has already solved these problems in many cases. We need to look to her for some answers and discard our pride.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  

    • To view these images that I have uploaded in full resolution, right click and select "view image" and your browser will show the image in its full size so you can zoom in on the details close up.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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    • Now here is the shots of the Solanum Dulcama plant growing from pots outside my window. We are working on creating several of these plants. It is a vary hardy vine

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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    • This is how it reproduces...but creating little baby plants on the tips of the leaves. The tips grow tentacles and roots and then a little baby plant starts growing. You trim off the tip and stick in the ground and voila you have a new plant. It is very vigorous and grows several feet tall. This plant is currently over 4 feet tall.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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    • Yet another close up shot. Notice the droplets of honey like secretion. We tasted it and it tastes like agave syrup.

    • 1 year ago
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    • This is one shot close up of the secretions of this interesting plant. It secrets a honey like substance.

    • 1 year ago
  • cztheday
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    • jubal:

      Those images are fascinating, jubal. The plant seems to have so many different attributes: flowers, fruits, sap -- and my understanding was that the most beneficial treatment prior to more sophisticated extraction techniques was using the roots to avoid the parts of the plant that are most toxic to humans. Is that correct?

      I recall seeing the stories of the cancer-fighting medication that is taken from the bark of a South American (or perhaps Central American?) tree but that the tree was quite rare and therefore so were supplies of the drug. I assume this plant is exponentially easier and faster to grow. Has it become more mainstream since the comments some seven months ago, do you know?

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • cztheday:

      The pictures I have posted are of two different plants. The images of the honey secretions is of a plant that was mistaken for the Dulcamara by many in Quito who were trying to cash in on the craze. I have had it checked out and it is in the Agave family.

      I don't know what to call it but it is quite unique and we were all taken by surprise when we saw it secreting the honey like substance.

      The other pictures with the purple flowers and the tiny red tomatoes is the Solanum Dulcamara and this I did find growing in my yard in a very strange, strange coincidence. I couldn't believe it has been there all these years. We harvested the fruit and have replanted the seeds and started several plants.

      I don't have the knowledge of how the drug is extracted from the roots, yet, but I will get there someday. Until then I am content to know that it can be purchased over the counter now in all the naturopathic and health food stores in Ecuador. It costs $20 a bottle there, and the bottle lasts for almost two months. But with the transportation costs the price goes up to around $50 to $100 a bottle depending on how many are brought back at one time.

      I didn't have any problems bringing back 20 bottles when I went through the Department of Agriculture inspection and the Dept. of Homeland Security check. I declared what I had and they didn't make any big deal about it.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • jubal
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      jubal  

    • I went to Ecuador in June and found out that Dr. Cevallos now has changed the packaging so that it can be easily imported into the US. It is now sold as a natural supplement. I also have found out that the plant was already growing in my back yard all these years and I didn't know it. I have since harvested many of the fruits and dried them out and planted them so now we have about 10 plants growing in the greenhouse. They are quite interesting and very vibrant plants.

      The other plant that my father brought back two years ago from Ecuador that we thought was Dulcamara turns out is actually in the Agave family and it secretes a honey like nectar from the plant. I will post pictures tomorrow after I download the photos to my laptop. I think you will all find it very interesting.

    • 1 year ago
  • lookatmypix
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    • Wow Jubal, thank you for bravely sharing your story. Thank you very much. I hope this post made it to the first page on Current. I'm only just coming reading it now on the 3rd page or so. I've been away form Current for a while.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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  • TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom
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    • One more time, from none other than......

      The Journal of Clinical Investigation [Volume 119, Issue 5 (May 1, 2009)],

      The.CannabisReEducationTeam.com is pleased to bring you:

      http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

      Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells

      María Salazar1,2, Arkaitz Carracedo1, Íñigo J. Salanueva1, Sonia Hernández-Tiedra1, Mar Lorente1,2, Ainara Egia1, Patricia Vázquez3, Cristina Blázquez1,2, Sofía Torres1, Stephane García4, Jonathan Nowak4, Gian María Fimia5, Mauro Piacentini5, Francesco Cecconi6, Pier Paolo Pandolfi7, Luis González-Feria8, Juan L. Iovanna4, Manuel Guzmán1,2, Patricia Boya3 and Guillermo Velasco1,2

      1. Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology I, School of Biology, Complutense University, Madrid, Spain.
      2. Centro de Investigación Biomédica en Red sobre Enfermedades Neurodegenerativas (CIBERNED), Madrid, Spain.
      3. 3D Lab (Development, Differentiation, and Degeneration), Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiopathology, Centro de Investigaciones Biológicas, Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas (CSIC), Madrid, Spain.
      4. INSERM U624, Campus de Luminy, Marseille, France.
      5National Institute for Infectious Diseases, IRCCS “L. Spallanzani,” Rome, Italy.
      6. Laboratory of Molecular Neuroembryology, IRCCS Fondazione Santa Lucia and Department of Biology, University of Rome “Tor Vergata,” Rome, Italy.
      7. Cancer Genetics Program, Beth Israel Deaconess Cancer Center and Department of Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.
      8. Department of Neurosurgery, University Hospital, Tenerife, Spain.

      First published April 1, 2009
      Received for publication November 3, 2008, and accepted in revised form February 11, 2009.

      Autophagy can promote cell survival or cell death, but the molecular basis underlying its dual role in cancer remains obscure. Here we demonstrate that Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main active component of marijuana, induces human glioma cell death through stimulation of autophagy. Our data indicate that THC induced ceramide accumulation and eukaryotic translation initiation factor 2α (eIF2α) phosphorylation and thereby activated an ER stress response that promoted autophagy via tribbles homolog 3–dependent (TRB3-dependent) inhibition of the Akt/mammalian target of rapamycin complex 1 (mTORC1) axis. We also showed that autophagy is upstream of apoptosis in cannabinoid-induced human and mouse cancer cell death and that activation of this pathway was necessary for the antitumor action of cannabinoids in vivo. These findings describe a mechanism by which THC can promote the autophagic death of human and mouse cancer cells and provide evidence that cannabinoid administration may be an effective therapeutic strategy for targeting human cancers.

      READ MORE ABOUT THE NON-TOXIC, *CLINICALLY-PROVEN*, CANCER-KILLING EFFECTS OF CANNABINOID COMPOUNDS IN MARIJUANA:

      http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

      Brought to you by The.CannabisReEducationTeam.com

    • 2 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  

    • How could anyone put this in the "spam" group? (bomb, looking at you since you're the only member!) I understand if you're not convinced that this extract cures anything, but don't you think it's a little insensitive and inaccurate to call it "spam" when a current member spend the post and many responses detailing his struggles with HIV and other health considerations, who had the honesty and courage to tell his story? Jubal is clearly not some kind of salesperson for this stuff and that is what calling this "spam" implies.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • DeliaTheArtist:

      Delia, thank you for speaking up. This is the kind of ridicule I have gotten from people in the past who are of the extremely skeptical kind who aren't willing to open their minds to other possibilities other than Pharamceutically generated medicines.

      These often are the same people who call homeopathic and naturopathic alternative health treatments "Snake Oil".

      And who knows, they could have a major stock investment in pharmaceuticals, and calling anything that isn't "Spam" is there way of "protecting their financial investment."

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
  • TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom
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      TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom  

    • YOU CAN FIND ALL THOSE CANCER LINKS AND MORE AT:

      http://The.CannabisReEducationTeam.com/cancer/

      The links themselves come from the now-defunct cannalink mirror of Granny Storm List.

      HERE'S A FEW HIGHLIGHTS:

      Denbinobin, a naturally occurring 1,4-phenanthrenequinone, inhibits HIV-1 replication through an NF-kappaB-dependent pathway.
      Bottom line- Denbinobin, found in cannabis, is an anti-viral.
      http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/5/10/2003.htm

      Anticancer activity of cannabinoids
      1975
      1975
      1975
      1975
      1975
      Bottom line- Lewis lung adenocarcinoma -" Animals treated for 10 consecutive days with delta-9-THC, beginning the day after tumor implantation, demonstrated a dose-dependent action of retarded tumor growth. Mice treated for 20 consecutive days with delta-8-THC and CBN had reduced primary tumor size." And they have known this since 1975!
      http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/cancer/THC_cancer_sep_1975.htm

      Cannabinoid action induces autophagymediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells.
      2009
      Bottom line- "delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the main active component of marijuana, induces human glioma cell death through stimulation of autophagy" autophagy = the cell self-destructs
      http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

      Hemp (Cannabis sativa)-an antibiotic drug. II. Methods and results of bacteriological investigations and preliminary clinical experiences
      1958(!)
      1958
      1958
      1958
      1958
      Bottom line-" This extract was antibacterial to Mycobacterium tuberculosis, even when diluted to 1:150,000 .... using S. aureus cultures for testing. Thus, 1: 100 dilns. produced immediate sterilization, 1:10,000 were sterile after 3 hrs., and 1:100,000 dilns. were sterile after 8 hrs."
      http://chemport.cas.org/cgi-bin/sdcgi?APP=ftslink&action=reflink&origin=...

      Antibacterial cannabinoids from Cannabis sativa: a structure-activity study.
      Bottom line- "All five major cannabinoids (cannabidiol (1b), cannabichromene (2), cannabigerol (3b), Delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (4b), and cannabinol (5)) showed potent activity against a variety of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) strains of current clinical relevance."
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18681481

      The Effect of {Delta}-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol on Herpes Simplex Virus Replication
      Bottom line- " Both herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV-2) failed, in an identical fashion to replicate and produce extensive c.p.e. in human cell monolayer cultures which were exposed (8 h before infection, at infection, or 8 h p.i.) to various concentrations of {Delta}-9-tetrahydrocannabinol."
      http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/49/2/427

      MARIJUANA SLOWS ALZHEIMER'S DECLINE
      This article says that THC reduces amyloid plaque and also inflammation. Rats' brains were injected with amyloid to create a condition similar to Alzheimers. The controls and the rats that also got THC were still able to learn. The others couldn't .
      http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n307/a10.html

      RUN FROM THE CURE: The Rick Simpson Story
      Bottom line- Canadian Rick Simpson has successfully eradicated skin cancer in hundeds of patients with 100% effectiveness. His medicinal cannabis oil has also successfully eradicated other forms of cancer and many major medical conditions.
      http://www.phoenixtearsmovie.com/
      Also, an article:
      http://the.cannabisreeducationteam.com/the-newsroom/phoenix-tears-t197.html

      VISIT THE CANNABIS RE-EDUCATION CENTER:

      http://TheCannabisReEducationCenter.com -> http://The.CannabisReEducationTeam.com

    • 2 years ago
  • TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom
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      TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom  
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    • ANTIBACTERIAL / MRSA

      Antibacterial cannabinoids from Cannabis sativa: a structure-activity study.
      Bottom line- "All five major cannabinoids (cannabidiol (1b), cannabichromene (2), cannabigerol (3b), Delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (4b), and cannabinol (5)) showed potent activity against a variety of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) strains of current clinical relevance."
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18681481

      Antibacterial Cannabinoids from Cannabis sativa: A Structure?Activity Study
      Bottom line- In testing THC, CBD, CBG, CBC abd CBN- "All compounds showed potent antibacterial activity" "potent activity demonstrated against EMRSA-15 and EMRSA-16, the major epidemic methicillin-resistant S. aureus strains occurring in U.K. hospitals."
      http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/np8002673?cookieSet=1

      Chemicals in Marijuana May Fight MRSA
      Bottom line- "cannabinoids kill bacteria in a different way than traditional antibiotics, meaning they might be able to bypass bacterial resistance."
      http://www.webmd.com/news/20080904/marijuana-chemicals-may-fight-mrsa

      Hemp (Cannabis sativa)-an antibiotic drug. II. Methods and results of bacteriological investigations and preliminary clinical experiences
      1958(!)
      Bottom line-" This extract was antibacterial to Mycobacterium tuberculosis, even when diluted to 1:150,000 .... using S. aureus cultures for testing. Thus, 1: 100 dilns. produced immediate sterilization, 1:10,000 were sterile after 3 hrs., and 1:100,000 dilns. were sterile after 8 hrs."
      http://chemport.cas.org/cgi-bin/sdcgi?APP=ftslink&action=reflink&origin=...

      How pot may win the war against super-bacteria
      Bottom line- "all five cannabinoids — the chemicals found in marijuana — showed potent activity against a variety of MRSA strains of current clinical relevance" It killed several strains of nasty MRSA germs.
      http://healthcare.zdnet.com/?p=1324

      Killing bacteria with cannabis
      Bottom line- "All five cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBG, CBC, and CBN) were potent against bacteria. Notably, they performed well against bacteria that were known to be multidrug resistant, like the strains of MRSA"
      http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2008/08/killing-bacteria-with-cannabis.ars

      Marijuana Ingredients Show Promise In Battling Superbugs
      Bottom line- "esearchers tested five major marijuana ingredients termed cannabinoids on different strains of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), a "superbug" increasingly resistant to antibiotics. All five substances showed potent germ-killing activity against these drug-resistant strains"
      http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/120477.php

      Natural plant cannabinoids reduce multi-drug resistant infections
      2009
      Bottom line- "THC, CBD, CBG, CBC, and CBN - showed potent antibacterial activity" and "exceptional" antibacterial activity against two epidemic MRSA occurring in UK hospitals."
      http://www.news-medical.net/?id=48757

      New medical uses found for marijuana
      Bottom line- " All five cannabinoids and synthetic cannabinoids proved successful against the bacteria,"(MRSA)
      http://www.dailyfreepress.com/news/new-medical-uses-found-for-marijuana-1.114909...

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      HIV / AIDS (many articles omitted since everyone already knows cannabis treats the symptoms of AIDS very well)

      Denbinobin, a naturally occurring 1,4-phenanthrenequinone, inhibits HIV-1 replication through an NF-kappaB-dependent pathway.
      Bottom line- Denbinobin, found in cannabis, is an anti-viral.
      http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/5/10/2003.htm

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    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • TheCannabisReEducationTeam_dotcom:

      Thank you so much for posting this additional information. Certainly for me the cannabis has been another blessing. I am learning to make the oil and tincture of cannabis now that I have my license to use it medicinally in Oregon. This is so exciting that we can finally put the power to heal ourselves in our own hands.

    • 2 years ago
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  • lookatmypix
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      lookatmypix  

    • I absolutely believe in herbs, the one I am very fond of is Wild Oregano, very powerful.
      Your story is very personal, very intimate, you must have found a lot of courage to share it. All my best wishes to you and I am very happy you made it.

      I strongly believe that what causes cancer is mostly a deficiency disease and that the lack of essential nutrients in our body leads to many diseases.
      One of my posts about cancer was this:
      http://current.com/items/90453378_cancer-cure-with-vitamin-b17-they-do-not-want-...

      and here is the video, as it explains what cancer really is, what causes it and how to stop it.
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507#

      "G. Edward Griffin marshals the evidence that cancer is a deficiency disease - like scurvy or pellagra - aggravated by the lack of an essential food compound in modern man's diet. That substance is vitamin B17. In its purified form developed for cancer therapy, it is known as Laetrile. This story is not approved by orthodox medicine. The FDA, the AMA, and The American Cancer Society have labeled it fraud and quackery. Yet the evidence is clear that here, at last, is the final answer to the cancer riddle. Why has orthodox medicine waged war against this non-drug approach? The author contends that the answer is to be found, not in science, but in politics - and is based upon the hidden economic and power agenda of those who dominate the medical establishment. With billions of dollars spent each year on research, with other billions taken in on the sale of cancer-related drugs, and with fund-raising at an all-time high, there are now more people making a living from cancer than dying from it. If the solution should be found in a simple vitamin, this gigantic industry could be wiped out over night. The result is that the politics of cancer therapy is more complicated than the science."

      I would like to know what you think about this, I especially love the passage from 22:24 to 25:28, these three minutes explain it all.

      Here is one of my favorites quotes:

      "Everything on the earth has a purpose, every disease an herb to cure it, and every person a mission. This is the Indian theory of existence." - Mourning Dove, Christine Quintasket (1888-1936)

      Thank you for this!

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • lookatmypix:

      The author contends that the answer is to be found, not in science, but in politics - and is based upon the hidden economic and power agenda of those who dominate the medical establishment. With billions of dollars spent each year on research, with other billions taken in on the sale of cancer-related drugs, and with fund-raising at an all-time high, there are now more people making a living from cancer than dying from it.

      Thanks so much lookatmypix, you are dead on when you quoted the statement above. It is the same argument that the infectious disease specialist that my partner argued with about natural products that treat a myriad of diseases. There is no profit in a cure, and there multi=billion dollar money making machine would grind to a halt if people knew that nature held the key to everything that ails them.

      We have at least 5 generations of people in this world that have been brainwashed to trust the self appointed experts, because they are the doctors and researchers who have spent millions to get where they are. They control the medical establishment and they don't want anyone inching in on their turf.

      Look at what the AMA says about Chiropractic or Naturopaths or Homeopathy and even in some circles Acupuncture and Eastern Herbal Medicine. I think its obvious to the educated mind. Thank you for your input.

      I believe in healthy eating, exercise, and getting rid of stress and fear in your life as a way to be on the path to longevity and endurance. Vitamins are certainly a part of my regimen. Eating live foods whenever possible is too, which means fresh fruits and vegetables.

    • 2 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • Incredible. Thanks so much for sharing Jubal. I hope the information gets out to the world. It would be a shame if this information gets suppressed. Imagine if it turns out easy to cultivate, and could be readily available.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Marilynn_Murray:

      Marilynn, thanks so much for your comments. I do want to be clear that cultivation of the plant to produce one's own extract is not going to be very safe, because many parts of the plant are toxic to humans. Dr. Cevallos says it is the roots from where he gets his extract. And when I drank the tea form back in 1995, the tea looked like ground up roots to me. He had very specific instruction on brewing and handling that included not heating to a very high temperature and not drinking the tea once a white milky substance started to form at the bottom. If I brewed a quart and drank one fluid ounce every four hours, that quart would spoil, even when it was in the refrigerator after three days. I would then have to throw that tea out and brew a fresh batch.

      The extract in the bottle has been stabilized so that it doesn't have that problem, but you still have to store it, once opened, at temperatures below 30 degrees centigrade.

      This plant is not as safe as say Cannabis, but if a person was savvy enough, perhaps they could produce the tea version.

      What I do know is that not one person has died from using the extract and that it does not interact with other medications.

    • 2 years ago
  • csmonut
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    • Jubal,
      Hope you don't mind, but I put this link on my website, along with my own comments about pharmacutical companies.
      Your story and the plant extract need to get out there as much as possible.
      If I ever get to Eugene, I would really like to meet you.

    • 2 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  

    • Jubal,

      What a wonderful story. The world will be a much better place and find it's way back to the garden, as a result from effort like yours and the good Doctor's. It is so admirable that he stood up to the big pharms and refused to sell out for money. He is truly a healer and a man of good faith, as are you my friend.

      This knowledge has been around for many milleniums, but was nearly lost due to mankind's regression and mental migration away from highly metaphysical ideals, also from the destruction of many places of knowledge such as the library at Alexandria. Thanks to Dr. Cevallos, who does his home work and research quite well, and to you for bringiing this to our attention, those who suffer may find relief...

      The conduit of universal knowledge holds the keys to many secrets which we as curious humans gradually discover to unlock those mysteries...may we continue to succeed...

      If you wish to travel to the enlightened destinations, you needn't go on the white ship in death, but go there through your faith in the masters of the universe, while you are alive and breathing...you were meant to do great things for the passive masses, i.e. telling your story and so on...keep the faith and keep searching for the truth with renewed courage and strength...enjoy your transcendental journey...

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • PlatoTacius:

      PlatoTacius, my brother, thank you so much for your eloquent words. I am living my life to the fullest and giving of myself as much as I can without putting my health in danger. I am a grateful person and that is my motivation to live today; gratitude. I have had many "miracles" in my life, surviving this long with HIV is certainly the biggest, but its the small "miracles" that get me through the day. I persevere cause I am still here.

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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      thewhompus  

    • Apparently they hold several patents on it-

      US Patent 7250180

      20050147701

      So why aren't they telling us what it is?

      That's my only question.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • thewhompus:

      Whompus, it is an extract from the root of the plant Solanum Dulcamara that is common throughout the Amazon. It is in many other parts of the world as you pointed out. He isolated the Solanaceous alkaloids, as you called them, and patented his process and his end molecule. I don't think he is going to divulge his process and I am not sure about the molecule, if that is something that could be obtained by a review of the patent or not.

      Since you cannot patent a natural substance, it must be a specific compound that he described in great detail in order to have been granted a patent, is that not true?

      But if you are a serious researcher, he is a very approachable guy, and is always willing to cooperate with researchers who are looking for the truth and not just for the profit.

      If he was in it for the profit, he would have taken the millions of dollars offered to him for his BIRM, but he is more of a philanthropist. He wants to ensure that the medicine reaches those who need it, and at a very fair price. I don't think $30 a bottle for concentrate is being greedy, when my HIV retrovirals cost $30K for an annual supply. Yes I know that he hasn't spent the millions in research that the Pharms have, but what about all the billions raised by charitable organizations over the past 30 years that supposedly went to research? Who is profiting from all those donated funds when the Retroviral Cocktail on the average costs around $2000 to $3000 per month?

      I think one could perhaps say he was a snake oil charmer if his product was priced like the Retroviral Cocktails.

      The other thing is that HIV is not a virus you could use mice or pigs or cows to test drugs on. You have to use human beings to test the drugs on, and yes there are unethical drug companies testing new HIV drugs on people in Africa and South America and paying them $30 a month to participate in study, like for a vaccine, but when the vaccine fails, they tell the patient, "sorry, tough luck that you got HIV after all." I think that is unethical.

    • 2 years ago
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    • thewhompus:

      His patents only refer to BIRM. As far as I can tell, nobody knows what BIRM actually is. Whether it's an extract of S. dulcamara isn't really relevant. I want to know what COMPOUNDS it's made of. His reluctance to offer such details shows his unwillingness to help others.

      It's possible he doesn't even know, but if that's the case, there are plenty of analytic chemists out there that would jump at the chance to unravel it. (and I'm sure they're already working on it)

      I understand your concerns about costs, but there are a couple of things you should consider. Until he comes forth with actual details, he'll never get it past the FDA, which means quality will never be regulated, and actual pharmacological details known about it. Those drug trials ARE important. Second, since it is a naturally occuring compound, it can NEVER become an absurdly expensive drug. Sure, drug companies will create slightly different synthetics so they can get patent rights, but unless they work better, the natural alternative will continue to be used and continue to be cheap. In fact, unless the drug companies find BETTER synthetics, they won't even bother marketing them. There are many examples of this- and actually quite a number that come from that same family of plants.

    • 2 years ago
  • Mauvearmchair
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    • Mauvearmchair:

      My father had cancer . . of the EVERYTHING in the end. . .the only thing that seemed to help was getting on a "diet" rather then eating junk. one wonders if plants that help with cancers simply provide essential nutrients lacking in day to day life,

      he made a comeback until he was unable to eat do to chemo

      figures!!. . .

    • 2 years ago
  • Metanoia
  • artemis6
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  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  

    • Jubal,

      thank you for sharing your powerful story. I am very glad that you are still in the world.

      There is no doubt that nature in general, and the amazon in particular, contains many powerful secrets waiting to be revealed and understood.

      Your story is a powerful reminder of the need to preserve our natural resources, and of the curious mystery of life itself.

      peace be with you always

    • 2 years ago
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  

    • Your story is inspiring, Jubal...and troubling, of course, given the combination of incompetence, insensitivity and greed on the part of some of the actors (arrogant doctors, incompetent and corrupt governmental agencies, greedy pharmaceutical companies, etc.).

      Your description is particularly poignant to me because I too spent long weeks on several occasions near death in the hospital due to immune system malfunctions. I contracted a respiratory virus that nearly shut down my lungs about five years ago and was tethered to an oxygen machine for months after narrowly escaping death in the hospital. Over the next three years, I contracted pneumonia four times and was hospitalized for at least a week on each occasion. The last time, I was desperately ill and awaiting surgery to open my lungs when I heard my wife crying in the hallway as the doctor advised her on how to get my body home after I died (we were on vacation when I fell ill).

      About six months ago, a young immunologist suggested the possibility that I discontinue a medication I had taken for some time for my arthritis. I did so...and two days before this past Christmas, my blood cell counts had -- for the first time in nearly 6 years -- returned to their normal ranges. As I told my family, no further Christmas gifts were necessary. I subsequently learned that nearly 20% of the people who took that medication had experienced immune system suppression...something that none of my doctors had ever told me (assuming they even knew themselves).

      Obviously my story pales in comparison to yours (though I guess dead is dead), though I too spent many, many hours contemplating what, if any, meaning my life and my apparently impending death might have. Because, after all, whether or not our lives mean anything in the grand scale of the universe, they tend to mean a great deal to us...and to those who love us. I believe (and have been told) that I am a very different person now than I was six years ago. Cztheday is more than just a screen name to me.

      I am very VERY glad you are still with us, Jubal, and that you have become an advocate for this medicine that could mean so much less suffering for people around the world...and for those who love THEM...

    • 2 years ago
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    • cztheday:

      Cztheday, I have always loved your screen name because it is my motto in life. I am happy to hear that it has a profound meaning to you, too. I am extremely happy to hear that you have recovered from your lung problems. Obviously I can understand and empathize completely with what you went through. I agree with the things you said about doctors not knowing all the ins and outs of the drugs they are taught to push onto us. And it is great that the immunologist came up with that suggestion of discontinuing that medication.

      I too am very glad to have you as a comrade on this community and I look forward to our continued association. You are a tremendously valuable and knowledgeable resource and I am grateful that you are willing to share it with us.

      Much love to you and your family, I am sure they are thrilled you are still with them.

    • 2 years ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  
    • cztheday:

      There was a very good article in Discover Magazine, or Scientific American, in 2008 about cholesterol lowering drugs.

      While the article focused on that type of drug and the effects it had on an astronaut, the doctor in question learned a great deal about how pharmacuticals test their medicines.

      They get X amount of people for a trial period which will run X amount of days or weeks. During that trial period, if a person or persons have a reaction, they are pulled from the test and labeled as non-compliant.
      Now I don't know about you, but the sound of "non-compliant" means the person decided not to finish the trial or didn't take the drug as prescribed.
      It seems there was quite a number of "non-compliant" people for this particular drug. I forget which one, there are so many.
      Statin drugs are very dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. Of course that could be said of many drugs on the market.
      As I listen to commercials on TV it sounds like a SNL skit when they start telling of all the side effects.

      BTW...I am glad you made it through your illness with all intellect intact. Your cool-headed responses to some of the worst remarks has always been enjoyable to read.

    • 2 years ago
  • cztheday
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    • cztheday:

      @Jubal, you are as kind as you are perceptive...and you are very perceptive indeed. While I know that you would make a very good member of Congress a small part of me hopes you decline that opportunity for the selfish reason that I have seen many good men and women forced to make compromises in the pursuit of that goal that have fundamentally altered them...and not for the better.

      But a few of them have managed to remain intact, and I suspect that you have the moral fiber to do so as well...though it is, of course, difficult. As to my screen name, I have learned that in order to seize a whole day, one must first learn to capture a moment. I just have not yet figured out a clever little abbreviation for the latter (heh).

      @Csmonut, thank you for the lovely sentiment. As you say, listening to the list of side effects that accompany many modern medications puts one in the awkward position of deciding whether the cure is any better than the underlying condition it is intended to treat. I have become persuaded that those of us with chronic illnesses wind up with more medical information stuffed in our heads than the average second-year med student.

      Yes, my family told me during a quiet moment on Thanksgiving that they were mostly glad to have me still kicking. The only exceptions were my continued stubborn insistence on the importance of homework and my admittedly incessant teasing of my 16-year-old about the crush she has on her first real boyfriend (though he has it even worse than she does...almost painful to watch the poor boy...heh).

      I still have a few faint scars (on the outside AND on the inside)...but I wouldn't trade them. Firstly, I earned them. Secondly, they provide me with a daily reminder of the necessity of periodically reviewing one's priorities in life...

      Peace to you both. cztheday

    • 2 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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    • Jubal,

      Your personal story brought me to tears, particularly your description of your "lucid state." Thank you so much for sharing your story with us; you are a strong person and an inspiration and we are all fortunate to know you!

      Those who are skeptical- good, be skeptical. Skepticism is healthy and necessary. However, before you dismiss Jubal's claims, consider the following:

      Many modern medicines have their base in natural plants.

      Jubal's story is not the only evidence of this plant; here is a link to part of the University of Miami's study that he referenced:

      http://aacrmeetingabstracts.org/cgi/content/abstract/2006/1/897-b

      Here is another study published in the Journal of Cancer Chemotherapy and Pharmacology:

      http://www.springerlink.com/content/tph41xagpn8c8xtr/

      Here's another source detailing many studies, conferences and articles about the extract:

      http://www.birm-us.com/conferencestable.html

      Furthermore, if you are unfamiliar with the ability and tenancy of mega corporations and government regulatory agencies to hide, crush, bury and dismiss information and innovation in the name of money, do some research on that before you come talking to us about how it could never happen. Pharmaceutical companies are multi billion dollar corporations who pump out drugs that kill more people in the US every year than every illegal drug combined.

    • 2 years ago
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      jubal  
    • DeliaTheArtist:

      Thank you Delia for posting the links to the studies. That will help the Skeptics become more informed. As you said, being skeptical is a healthy thing. I appreciate your fair minded and balanced approach to science and nature.

      To some of you skeptics I just want to say, being insulting in your skepticism isn't helpful and it isn't kind.

    • 2 years ago
  • futuregen
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      futuregen  

    • Jubal, I have always thought you contributed greatly to the current community and enjoyed reading your informative posts and comments. This, of course, moves to the head of the line. The pursor was right not to let you on that white cruise ship to paradise. It's clear your mission on earth had not yet been accomplished. You will save many lives by spreading this information. That's why I really object to making it mandatory to purchase health care in the U.S.. I don't agree with a lot of the treatments and I don't want them forced on me. Thank you so much for sharing and I'm glad you got a glimpse of things to come in other dimensions although so sorry for your suffering. I'm so glad the doctor is holding on to the patent. Blessings to him.

    • 2 years ago
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      treewolf39  

    • Thank you Jublal for sharing your story. You are truly an amazing person. The seeds you plant with your stories and comments are already raising the consciousness of the world.

    • 2 years ago
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    • That's great, I wonder how other natural things, that are know for having anti-cancer properties would interact with it? Such as; curry, shiitake mushrooms, other Asian mushrooms I forgot the names of, cannabis oil, anyway there are a few other things that are supposed to be helpful...

    • 2 years ago
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      jubal  
    • spacemikey:

      spacemikey, I believe that nature holds all the keys to our future, including our health. If only we can use our technology to help us bring harmony between human and nature.

    • 2 years ago
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      ras_menelik  
    • Image

    • WOW another WEED its' everywhere!

      It is native to Europe and Asia, and widely naturalized elsewhere, including North America, where it is an invasive problem weed. It occurs in a very wide range of habitats, from woodlands to scrubland, hedges and marshes. It is an invasive species in the Great Lakes region and was first spotted in 1843

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_dulcamara

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • ras_menelik:

      Ras_Menelik, thank you and yes. It is rather ubiquitous.

      Did you know that this plant's dried fruit and seeds were found in the tomb of Tutankhamen? Apparently the Egyptians already must have known about its curative properties.

    • 2 years ago
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      regjoeschmo  

    • Think of how much money the healthcare system makes off of its current "treatment" programs...... Why would they allow for this income to be reduced by researching and exposing a cure??

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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      jubal  
    • thewhompus:

      You are right on track thewhompus. Alkaloids are extremely useful.

      The beauty of BIRM is that it is a carbohydrate of extremely low molecular weight, so it is absorbed very easily and has as much toxicity as eating bread, pasta, or potatoes.

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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      thewhompus  
    • thewhompus:

      I would need to know exactly what you mean by 'carbohydrate'. All organic molecules are 'carbohydrates'.

      Given the biologically active chemicals typically found in solanaceous plants, I'd guess you're probably looking at either an alkaloid or glycoside (probably the latter). I agree with your earlier comment that the exact extraction method needs to be understood. It's likely he's isolating something in exclusion of the more toxic compounds typically found in these plants.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • thewhompus:

      You are correct Whompus, he is isolating the particular active ingredients from the roots of the plant. And the plant that he is using is indigenous to the Amazon. I perceive that you have scientific knowledge that allows you to understand these processes better. Perhaps you might be interested in translating, using google, one of the articles that I posted from Dr. Cevallos. It was a lengthy interview with him where he was grilled by a jounalist for a website which is the equivalent of WEBMD here in the US.

      Since all the controversy there about certain factions of the medical community in Ecuador tried to shut him down, he actually won the lawsuit and the dispute. He explains the science way better than I can but the interview in Spanish. I will post the link here and I hope that you can make heads or tails of it and report back to us.

      He mentions how not just any variety of Solanum Dulcamara can be used to create BIRM.

      http://www.ecuadorinmediato.com/Noticias/news_user_view/edwin_cevallos_quotbirm_...

      Do you have access to Google Translate? or Babylon? or Babel Fish?

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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    • thewhompus:

      I translated and read the article but it's extremely difficult to understand with the grammar all messy like that.

      He doesn't actually tell us much of anything as far as I can tell. He does seem to saying that a) it promotes apoptosis, b) that it acts as a immuno-modulator, c) that it has something to do with the proteins by which HIV recognizes t cells (at least thats what I got).

      He does clearly say that his extraction process isolates the BIRM compound from the other toxic compounds in the plant.

      I have some reservation about his claim that only HE possesses the particular variety that produces BIRM. While it's true that there may be varieties that have greater or lesser amounts of a compound, it is NOT AT ALL likely that a variety would have a completely novel compound.

      As far as the taxonomy goes, there only appears to be 2 accepted subspecies of S. dulcamara, neither of which has an isolated distribution in ecuador. Subspecies, through geographic isolation, can sometimes develop unique chemotypes, but varieties rarely do, and certainly not within a small range like he is describing (I'm speaking of his comments that there are so many sellers selling different varieties IN Ecuador). It's possible that he either has a plant that represents a unique subspecies, or that he's misidentified the plant he has, or that he's slightly full of shit and all the varieties contain the compound in various quantities. Personally, I'd side with the latter, given other research on the solanaceae showing anti-tumor activity from a wide range of species. His unique contrbution may be to have inadvertantly isolated a specific compound just by way of his extraction method. Until he tells us how it's made and gives us samples of the plants, we can't really make any judgements on his claims.

      Which brings me to perhaps my own pet peeve about the whole thing, and that's his reluctance to be open about what he's done. He CAN submit it for patent if he wants to protect his interests, but it's VERY fishy that he wouldn't share such a discovery with the world, particularly given the number of lives at stake. To me it reeks of snake oil salesmanship, but then again, I do recognize the number of people here that seem to have some positive relationship with this stuff. Maybe it DOES work and the guy just has a questionable sense of ethics.

      As the article I posted shows, certainly there are some interesting compounds in these plants, and well worth continued research. That I don't doubt at all.

    • 2 years ago
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      jubal  
    • thewhompus:

      He offered to share his findings with Dr. Montagnier who was the discover of the HIV virus so that they could collaborate on its study, but since he doesn't want to sign over the rights away from Ecuador as the discoverer. He wants Ecuador to not be treated as some dumb country that discoveries such as these can come from. He is being a bit of egotist in the sense that he wants Ecuador to get the recognition and not the US or France or some other country as the one who brings the "Officially" tested product.

      Also if you check out the Miami study and the Birmingham study, you will see that in the case of HIV, BIRM was 60% effective in protecting T4Cells from infection, while in the case of prostate cancer, it was observed in Miami to cause cancer cell apoptosis.

      You are probably right about his extraction process being unique and learning how to isolate the most useful part of the plant. That makes absolute sense to me.

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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      thewhompus  
    • thewhompus:

      If he were a typical scientist, he'd publish the whole thing in the open.

      He's held US patents on BIRM for many years now, so it can't just be some nationalist interest.

      Having thought about it some more, my personal take is that it's likely that he can only patent 3 things- 1) the extraction process he uses, which is probably not novel, 2) the specific medicine, but not the specific compounds since they're naturally occuring, and 3) the specific cultivar he's using.

      However, in instance 1 the process could be easily altered to circumvent patents. In instance 2 he's only offered patent protection so long as no one knows what the medicine is actually made of. In instance 3 he's only offered patent protection as long as only HIS cultivar has these chemicals in sufficient quantities, which he likely knows is not the case.

      This explains his reluctance to be more forthcoming with details. To me it just sounds like another guy trying to make a buck, which is sad given the number of lives his discovery could change.

    • 2 years ago
  • BCDel89
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      BCDel89  

    • It's a sad truth when you realize that the government doesn't really care about the safety of it's people all they care about is money and were all apart of the crossfire.

    • 2 years ago
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      Vierotchka  

    • Jubal, a few weeks ago my husband and I met an American of Brazilian origin, of our age. We sympathized and spent a couple of hours talking over coffee and beer. He told us about a Brazilian plant tea which cures AIDS which he gave to a friend who had AIDS and who got cured as a result - I bet it is the same plant.

    • 2 years ago
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      jubal  
    • Vierotchka:

      I am sure it is, because BIRM is now in twelve South American countries. Dr. Cevallos has an International patent on it, including a US patent. Check out his page with the Curriculum Vitae, it has links to the studies that were done and other useful information.

    • 2 years ago
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      jubal  
    • Vierotchka:

      Oh I should also mention that Dr. Cevallos was contacted by the French Dr. who discovered the HIV virus to have him send samples to him. Dr. Montagnier I believe was his name. Dr. Montagnier gave BIRM to his lab assistant who had a very persistent and chronic form of Asthma. After three months on BIRM she was symptom free.

      Many doctors from Europe, the US, and Canada travel to Ecuador to meet with Dr. Cevallos and to acquire supplies to bring back to their countries to help their most needy patients.

      Pharmacies sell BIRM down there for between 20 to 30 dollars a bottle of the concentrated form, and around 10 dollars for the simple form. There also is a shampoo, a cream, and a balm, as well.

    • 2 years ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  
    • Vierotchka:

      There is also available in Russia and perhaps other places in Europe, a bacterial soup that is used to cure persistent sores.
      It is not available in the US because, according to pharmacutical companies, it would cost way too much to do all of the testing the FDA requires before it would be made available to the public. Which is BS.
      The problem with the bacterial soup is that it works too well and would cut into the profits from the plethora of synthetic drugs that are used over and over with little to no results.

    • 2 years ago
  • rodstradamus
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • rodstradamus:

      Thank you so much rodstadamus. I am very familiar with this process and I have heard from people who have done it. The technology is not readily available, since it is not FDA approved....which is the same BS we always here when something actually cures something.

    • 2 years ago
  • SeaJade
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      SeaJade  

    • Thank you so much for sharing this, your heart and life, Jubal - I know you know as do a few others here there are many appropriate plants for healing our diseases when used properly and that the pharmaceutical and medical industries have been suppressing information as well as "banning" many healing herbs and modalities for a long time.

      Every time an indigenous group of people are squelched out of their natural existence, there goes much wisdom as well, for those groups of people have a long history of "harmony" with the plant kingdom as well as the priceless knowledge they had acquired.
      Well done for finding your "way" indeed - you make my universe a better place for being in it (now is that a "selfish statement or what, but you know what i mean) - love and blessings to you!

      P.S. have you looked into "raw" foods as both a lifestyle and healing modality - best food i have ever eaten - good for you and good for the planet... (let me know if i can assist)

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • SeaJade:

      Absolutely, I eat organic as much as possible and I strictly limit my intake of cancer causing GMO corn sugars. The are so ubiquitous and it is now nearly impossible to avoid them, but I do my best. I go to the gym and I exercise. I meditate and I live in harmony with nature. I built my house to be "Green Friendly" with green materials and non toxic chemicals that leach into the air.

      Thank you so much for your love and blessings.

    • 2 years ago
  • MotherForTruth
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      MotherForTruth  

    • Jubal,
      Thank you for sharing your story. I am a strong believer in herbal healing. Our ancestor’s knowledge is lost and suppressed by pharmaceuticals who continue lobby to block public access to all supplements and natural herbal medicines.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • thewhompus
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • thewhompus:

      thewhompus, the processes of disposal of cellular debris whose results do not damage the organism differentiate apoptosis from necrosis.

      The only truly useful part of the plant is the roots. Just like potato, which is a cousin, the usable part is in the roots. The plant of the potato is toxic, yet everybody still eats potatoes.

      The night shade family includes, tomato, potato, and eggplant, which are commonly used plants here in the US. Why wouldn't this night shade plant have a part of it that is not toxic to humans, too?

    • 2 years ago
  • thewhompus
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      thewhompus  
    • thewhompus:

      Jubal- please see the article in my later post for that info. The chemicals responsible for the anti tumor activity are likely common solanaceous alkaloids. As I understand it, the entire plant of S. dulcamara is poisonous.

      I understand you point about necrosis and apoptosis. I was wrong to call it cell death. More rightly the plant causes organismic death. No doubt about it- it's toxic.

    • 2 years ago
  • mcwally
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      mcwally  

    • mr b shame you dont have any faith ...hopefully your life will always be perfect..and you will always learn something new..maybe..compassion for your fellow travellers...? Sometimes...

    • 2 years ago
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