"Time to be heard" Glenn Beck covers Black conservatives ignored by the main stream liberal elitist media.pt. 5

Wasn't this surgery for just having his appendix removed?

I think the whole guilty white liberal thing needs to go away. Because you think your helping the black community, but your really just using them as a prop so you can feel better about yourselves.

I agree with you completely. I am both third generation Irish Catholic and third generation career military. I never bought into the whole liberal white guy guilt bullshit. The Irish suffered racism both here and back home in Ireland. We didn't complain like a bunch of babies but made this country ours. Joining the Police Force, Fire Department, Construction, Politics and of course the Military. Most so called liberals are over privileged, sheltered naive people who love to label anyone who doesn't agree with them racist, fascists, in-human..etc..etc...etc. These so called loving and understanding liberals have called attacked me personally multiple times. I was even told to kill myself to restore balance to the karma of the cosmos because of my actions in Iraq and Afghanistan......God, Dam I love America!

hooah

It helps that the Irish were white genius, and that they weren't enslaved or under Jim Crow for the majority of their time in this country.

When was the last time an Irish guy was shot at his Bachelor party 60+ times or had the shit beaten out of him by cops only to watch them get off with not even a slap on the wrist?

No wonder you don't buy into our "liberal guilt," you're an unconscionable clueless asshole.

To the eye, Irish is "white" so the doors to the police depts, fire depts, construction etc. that you admit that they were able to gain employment with, were not closed. Where did you get the balls to even try and compare a white Irish mans experience in America with the black descendants of slaves?
White guilt? That's an interesting attempt to discredit the awareness of the difference between right and wrong. Clearly you,via your posts here, have demonstrated that you have not learned the difference. Given your attitude it wouldn't surprise me if you believed that it was "unfair" that Germany has to pay reparations to the Jewish people.
Sad to think that here we are in the 21st century and there are still those among us who stubbornly cling to 18th century views.

Part two: The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia.
There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end it’s participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.
Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories. But, where are our public (and PRIVATE) schools???? Where are the history books? Why is it so seldom discussed?
Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims merit more than a mention from an unknown writer? Or is their story to be one that their English pirates intended: To (unlike the African book) have the Irish story utterly and completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.

watch the clip I posted above, you just described the "house negro"...He lived better than the others...

I think your caps lock might be on bro.

One thing id have to disagree with you on is the whole idea that conservatives use blacks as a tool? hmm. reassess situation. OK how about the democrats use the black vote as a tool for reelection, by promising them a better life and money that never comes through. What have all the entitlement programs accomplished? I'd have to say that they created a hole for the black community that they are still trying to dig their way out of.

yea... i almost expected to hear "can i shine your shoes for ya massa"

I'll shine 'em good too! Ya sah!

I don't hate Glenn. Glen hates Glenn.

I would consider myself a consertive. And at last check, i was still in possion of my common sense. And yes, i do watch FOX. I must ask, How often do you watch Fox?
And, do you ever watch an entire show?

He had a group of moms awhile back he must be sexist as well.

Well said, I tip my hat to you!!

Oh my goodness , you made me laugh so hard ! The truth is so absurd !

I don't think glenn beck is "dumb as shit" as you put it...I think he is an evil, manipulative, snake in the grass. He will do anything to approve his ratings and he plays the dumb as shit off of the dumber than shit so that he will continue to stay on the air. (Don't get me wrong I'm not disagreeing with you I think he is a bigot too, just a smart, wicked conniving s.o.b. of one.)

So atlanada your sounding like the 95% of the black community who looks down on the other 5% that beck is talking about. Your kind of sounded like a bigot yourself.

The motivations are different, and are not part of a stealthy agenda.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that banks, corporations and PMC's lobbying congress aren't part of a shadowy agenda.

"Even atheists do this as well by insisting that science and rational thought are the only valid ideas and that somehow by having faith or believing in God the "others" are wrong."

The thing for me is, science (and frequently rational thought) are self corrective; science is constantly validating the truth and dismissing incorrect information. Science doesn't so much ask people to accept it as the "only valid idea", rather question ideas and find evidence to prove their validity (or disprove it.) People that really accept science also accept the inherent possibility that everything we know is wrong and strive not to enforce their own learned belief systems, but get as close to the truth as we can.

When it comes to faith and god being "wrong", atheists can't force themselves to believe in god any more than faithful people can force themselves not to. The lack of empirical evidence leaves the subject of god much more personal, emotional and subjective; dogmatic writings are up to the interpretation of the reader, experiences of god are up to the person experiencing them and may differ from other's experiences. How can we validate these things as "right" or "wrong" when there is no way to really test them, no way to prove them true or false, no way to dismiss a person's claim or belief without being accused of arrogance or intolerance?

Also, I find this average atheist MO pretty mild compared to the world religion's wars for control. Even the most arrogant of atheists have only written books and made movies that pissed people off; the idea isn't to kill or convert those that disagree, but ask questions (that are sometimes unpopular or offensive) to encourage the validity of a different world view- the one where god doesn't exist. This idea doesn't carry equal merit in many societies and I think there are a lot of misconceptions about what atheism really entails, which is simply a lack of belief in the supernatural pending convincing evidence.

Theyre not even a news network according to the white house.

Well, according to Fox themselves a lot of their shows aren't even news. The majority of them are listed as "opinion" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel#Programming) But anyway, I didn't say news, I said "media".

well when they say media, im sure theyre referring to the news networks.

Well, I've seen plenty of people in all ethnicities and political viewpoints on CNN including black conservatives. I've also seen Beck say things like this before- "The media doesn't want you to know X", "The media wants you to think YZ" etc- but Glenn Beck and the rest of Fox "news" are just as much a part of the mainstream media as any other channel, and it is indeed curious to call them a news channel when the majority of their shows are opinion based.

I couldn't agree more....

its my opinion that although this crackpot has some good points, unfortunatly the fact is he seems like, well, a crackpot. This makes people with legit questions seem like Beck followers, or mad 'conspiracy nuts', meaning that important issues are brushed under the table and classed as madness by other mainstream outlets!