Taliban may be descended from Jews
source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6967224/Taliban-may-be-descended-...
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Experts at Mumbai's National Institute of Immunohaematology believe Pashtuns could be one of the ten "Lost Tribes of Israel".
The Israeli government is funding a genetic study to establish if there is any proof of the link.
An Indian geneticist has taken blood samples from the Pashtun Afridi tribe in Lucknow, Northern India, to Israel where she will spend the next 12 months comparing DNA with samples with those of Israeli Jews.
The samples were taken in Lucknow's Malihabad area because it was regarded as the only place safe enough to conduct such a controversial project for Muslims.
Shanaz Ali a senior research fellow, will lead the study at the Technion Israel Institute of Technology in Tel Aviv.
There are an estimated 40 million Pashtuns around the world including more than 14 million in Afghanistan and 28 million in Pakistan, mainly in the North West Frontier Province and Tribal areas but also with a strong presence in Karachi.
Many have grown up with stories of their people being "Children of Israel". According to legend, they are descended from the Ephraim tribe which was driven out of Israel by the Assyrian invasion in around 700BC.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6967224/Taliban-may-b...
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onechance
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Hahahahahahaha I LOVE this!!! It goes to show how silly and senseless violence of any kind really is.
We're all from the same place!!! LOVE AND LET LIVE. - 2 years ago
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Boy isn't this an incredible twist of fate...
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Janice_Straight:
yeah....and a supreme irony. The cosmos gets the last laugh on these suckers.
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desertcat
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The way both the Jewish and Arabaic world acts you would think they are descendants of a race of people in a galaxy far, far away. With luck soon the mother ship will come and take them away. Space development should be be ethnic groups that hate each other. Ship them off to another planet by themselves and let the last survivor return. Then maybe the rest of us can get on with our lives.
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This reminds me of the time we discovered we all originated in africa and i was thinking of what the white supremacists were thinking
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onemm24:
Creationists express disdain for the notion that humanity has a genetic relationship to apes but they are proud to claim that God made them from dirt.
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Since the Jews aren't a race it's not as if the Taliban would break down and start committing suicide.
But it would be funny if it were true.
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Huh, so the science ministry of the nation, of the very city, which was terrorized and attacked by Islamic extremists linked to the Taliban, is conducting a study funded by Israel, a nation which is essentially at war with Islam, whose purpose is to deligitimate the ethnic purity of and thereby undermine the organizing power of the most prominent tribe in the Taliban. An attempt to “prove” a theory which has been definitively debunked by serious scholarship:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050206164434/afghanology.com/BaniIsraeli.html
“Seeing the circumstances, which caused the emergence of this theory, its inconsistencies, and the evidences of recent research, this theory seems least plausible. However, as a tool for political and cultural propaganda against Pakhtoons, this theory still holds much worth for vested quarters.”
Weeell…I’m sure the Indians and Israelis won’t mind if say, the Norwegian Institute of Immunohaematology takes a look at the data. I don’t see why they’d object to a bit of peer review, but I’m sure they’ll find a reason. I hate violent extremism in all it’s forms: Islamic, Christian, Zionist, Corporatist…but the way to fight the distortion of Islam is not with the distortion of science. Maybe the scientists investigating this link sincerely believe the Pashtun are descendents of a Jewish tribe, but the timing of this study and the source of its funding don’t pass the smell test.
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zee10lon
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everyone there descended from jews, you can see afghan mongols and russian afghans
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zee10lon:
What did Jews descend from then?
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Remember the Chappelle show where the head of the KKK was black and the guy's head explodes? What I just thought of.
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All Science has to do is compare all DNA against the common monkey except for societies jackasses, they can be compared with the Jackass. (I must apologize to the Monkeys and the Jackasses. I'm sure that they to could not control the stupidity of their mutated offspring. Those who believe they have the ability to control by Politics are born from Jackass turds.
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Meanwhile....
While trying to escape through Pakistan , Osama Bin Laden found a
bottle on
the sand and picked it up.
Suddenly, a female genie rose from the bottle and with a smile said,
"Master, may I grant you one wish?"
Osama responded, " You ignorant, unworthy daughter-of-a-dog! Don't
you
know who I am? I don't need any common woman giving me anything."
The shocked genie said, "Please, I must grant you a wish or I will be
returned to that bottle forever."
Osama thought a moment, then grumbled about the impertinence of the
woman
and said, " Very well, I want to awaken with three American women in
my bed
in the morning. So just do it and be off with you.
"The annoyed genie said, "So be it!" and disappeared.
The next morning Bin Laden woke up in bed with Lorena Bobbitt, Tanya
Harding, and Nancy Pelosi at his side.
His penis was gone, his knees were broken, and he had no health
insurance.
God is good.
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jimmysemens:
lol - but I don't think Nancy Pelosi is really the reason there is no health care. :)
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Mr Garrison explains it the best.
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Whereas creationists have such a well-researched and reasoned explanation for humanity.
Let's see, two blue-eyed Idahoans in the desert 6,000 years ago (where there was a lush garden full of abundant fruit and no sin) gave birth to humanity including Inuit, Slavs, Pygmies and Patagonians. I have yet to hear a more far-fetched fairy tale than that. All because of that evil talking snake. All within the first few months of the beginning of the universe.(image of sons and daughters of Adam and Eve) LOL
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oppressed1:
Exactly Queen, it is what "scientists" sound like to people like you, with limited intelligence and a vague grasp of reality.
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oppressed1:
Yep! thats what happen. Well on south Park anyway in the real world it took millions of years. Then a couple of near miss's with a couple of meteors. Then something grew in the slime then it breed and here we are. Or something like that
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jimmysemens:
Oy vey, kissin' cousins!
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Maybe not perhaps descended from Jews as the article says but descended from the same ancestral line. The Jews themselves are a heterogeneous ethnicity with different ancestral heritages. There isn't a "Jewish" genetic marker that all Jews share.
Many of the peoples in the Middle East and Central Asia are more or less related to one another. Some more than others.
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Hopefully the shock of this discovery will cause them all to commit mass suicide.
I suppose they might take it as an opportunity to live like decent human beings and abandon their death cult and return to the fold to live in peace.. Nah...forget it.
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I dont give a fcuk who they are descended from.....the Taliban are a bunch of cowards. Sending under-equipment, untrained young boys with dreams of being mujahidin to get their bodies shredded by endless rounds from red hot AR-15's. Sorry a bit angry today, heading back to the Logar Province better know as "The Gates to Jihad"
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I have spent my entire adulthood in the U.S. Army, straight out of High School. I wish I could say that you are wrong but your not. Year after Year, I get young, uneducated, poor kids from some of the worst ghettos in the country. The fact of the matter is more minorities are sent to Combat Brigades like my unit the 10th Mountain Division. While, white, educated young men like myself are fast track to positions of authority.
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Safe Journeys to you and your fellow soldiers, and many thanks for serving your country.
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bking74:
So you've already been over there? And that is what you have seen? For some reason I feel there may be more to the story but I do respect your opinion. Please continue to make post during your deployment if you can!
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bking74:
i was in Logar province, i just came from there, that place is full of cowards, backstabbers, and liars...muhommed agah district sub-gov is a bit shady
good luck and becareful of those mines
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bking74:
Maybe. But they're giving you a hell of a run for our money and you are losing this Vietnam my friend, for all of us.
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10! as the first lost tribe we of the tribe of Judah say let my peoples go!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZvuM8VrX9I
youtube video about this...
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I'm confused. I didn't know that the Jews or the Taliban were biological races, or that people could acquire genetic traits based on their ancestors' and parents' political views.
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JonRaymond:
the jews are an ethnic group, as well as a religious group. the ethnic group at the heart of the taliban are the pashtuns. the pashtuns may be decendents of ethnic jews, which would make much of the hate speech and calls for violence agaisnt jews from the taliban well, a bit ironic.
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JonRaymond:
It kills me to say it but I have to agree with you on this one Jon.
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JonRaymond:
I'm sorry. But the premise of the article and this assertion is false. Political views are not passed on as genetic traits. Jews are people of a religion not an ethnicity. If you don't believe this then ask any Rabbi "What is a Jew?" A person of any creed or color can be a Jew. A person raised in Israel and born to a Jewish is not a Jew until he is a Bar Mitzvah. So yes, people who belong to the political group called the Taliban can be Jews. Though, I expect if they admitted to such a thing they be killed.
I have a father who was a Christian and a mother who was a Jew. I was raised as a Christian. But I now practice neither religion. If someone is surround by a certain people they may indeed take on attributes of those people and their children may even CHOOSE or be coerced to take on the same attributes. But this in no way can be called genetic. It is purely environmental. Genetic is not environmental. They are two very different things.
The whole article is absurd. Whether an ancestor or parent was a Jew means nothing to the offspring, unless they choose to follw the same path. It is not genetic.
The article should be retitled, "Some Taliban may have Jewish ancestors." Then it would be accurate. But it would also be irrelevant. It is irrelevant. But it would also be more credible and truthful and would make the point correctly.
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Makes perfect sense to me.
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we are all brothers and sisters trying to make it on the rock hurling through space. When will everyone stop fighting and realize that.
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pshot:
What a lovely simple solution. I love it but it will not happen.
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I'd say around about the rapture.
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No way, when the rapture comes that is when the real fun starts. Then I can unleash my catholic blood lust and release the beast. thank god for the government indoctrination now I will be ready!
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pshot:
Catholics already eat the body of Christ and drink his blood. They are already like fierce cannibals. In an apocalyptic situation, I may join up with them.
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@pshot
Unfortunately, your answer might be "when we're all dead", aka never.
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people need to keep in mind that the jews are an ethnorelgious group. this article is focusing on the ethnic half of that. if it turns out true it will become a very bitter irony for those extremist pashtuns(taliban) who promote violence against jews.
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and im a descendant of jesus christ
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Alanisnotcool:
supposedly, no one should be a descendent from Jesus Christ.
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Alanisnotcool:
LOL! Didn't he die childless?
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Alanisnotcool:
supposedly
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Alanisnotcool:
Wait... are y'all saying that Tom Hank's movie with that hot foreign chick being the descendant of Jesus wasn't true!?!?!
Personally I think it is crazy to assume that Jesus did not have sex in his 34ish years on earth. He was a REAL man wasn't he? I live in a Jewish neighborhood and some of the chicks walking to synagogue on Saturday mornings are smokin hot. When you are a dude you only have 2 choices; get a woman or some lotion. And the Old Testament frowns upon spilling seed on the earth. It has to be sowed properly and with care.
Next time say "I am a disciple of Jesus Christ." That means you are a student of his teachings. I doubt many people short of extremist would take serious offense at this statement since Jesus' showed mercy over justice numerous times.
Now go out there and save a hooker!
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lol. you said "spilling seed"
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Canaanites just cant git er right,...but yo yo yo ,...U goooooooooo,....home boooooooooooooooy!
Cult of you cant go home again.
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Ishmael is a figure in the Hebrew Bible, and later referenced in the Qur'an. Jews, Christians and Muslims believe Ishmael is Abraham's eldest son and first born. Ishmael is born of Sarah's handmaiden Hagar (Genesis 16:3). Although born of Hagar, according to Mesopotamian law, Ishmael was credited as Sarah's son; a legal heir through marriage. (Genesis 16:2) According to the Genesis account, he died at the age of 137 (Genesis 25:17).
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ibrake4rappers13:
nobody has lived to be 137 years old. next!
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ibrake4rappers13:
137! Life expectancy in1910 was about 50 years old.
I remember a little sing-song from Sunday school that went
*Jesus loves, this I "know", cause the bible tells me so....*Rappers is certain that humanity is descendant from Adam and Eve less than 6,000 years ago because 'the bible tells him so'.
National Geographic Oct. 2009- Scientists today announced the discovery of the oldest fossil skeleton of a human ancestor. The find reveals that our forebears underwent a previously unknown stage of evolution more than a million years before Lucy, the iconic early human ancestor specimen that walked the Earth 3.2 million years ago.
The centerpiece of a treasure trove of new fossils, the skeleton—assigned to a species called Ardipithecus ramidus—belonged to a small-brained, 110-pound (50-kilogram) female nicknamed "Ardi." (See pictures of Ardipithecus ramidus.)http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091001-oldest-human-skeleton-ard...
I can see why new-earth creationists have such disregard for science...
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Islam in general descended from abraham, the father of the Jews.
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ibrake4rappers13:
arabs, not muslims. pashtuns are not considered arabs...
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ibrake4rappers13:
ibrake4rappers, do you take the Bible literally? Do you honestly believe that our entire population, (which is close to 7 billion people), all descended from Adam and Eve? I guess somewhere along the line, God decided inter-breeding would not be acceptable, so that is why it could cause birth defects...
If thats true, then I guess the planet and universe is only less then 10,000 years old... even though evidence would show the contrary. Humans are special amongst all other living beings, cause God made us in his own image, so only we get to go to Heaven... even if by some chance there is life on other planets, we are the special ones. yeah... ok....
I guess I'm crazy for thinking that there is life on other planets, but a guy that hears, sees, and knows everything, that is merciful but judges your life, to send you to the utopian fantasy land, or to hell for eternity; believing in that, is not totally out there. So I guess Judgment day means all the other planets and stars in the universe will vanish, because the God we told each other about says so... hmmm... ok. - 2 years ago
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The whole lot of them are just bastard offspring of Phoenicians who were either afraid of the water or epileptic;.... smart,...but sort of spastic and prone to drowning. Those who learned to count money well don't live on sand dunes, those who live on sand dunes are still bitter and swear eternal vengeance.Those who had any real drive and talent went places,....across the wine dark sea.
(Don't know this for an absolute certainty,...but I would put a five spot on it.)
pssssssssssssssst,......just between you and me,....they still hear "voices" when they are done twitching.
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what will they do now ? terrorize themselves ?
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mkennedy09:
blahaha! classic
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mkennedy09:
funny.
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mkennedy09:
yeah, because the taliban are the terrorists. way to go on knowing the facts.
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I hope they find the "lost" tribe in palestine .
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Geez people are idiots--basic theology will tell you that "Father Abraham" had two sons--one became the ancestor of the Arabic people and one became the ancestor of the Jewish people.
Or even more obviously is we are all inter-related human beings. There is no discernible difference in DNA along religious and/or ethnic lines--these things are all man-made concepts or labels that serve no purpose but to divide and distract us and allow us to justify killing each other.
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common_sense_please:
who are you calling Arabs the Pashtuns are not Arabs. and yes DNA science has proven that we all go back to the same family in E Africa in Q here is the branching of our family tree 1 billion Muslims are not all descendants of Ishmael.
and last why are you calling my people names?
"Geez people are idiots--"
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common_sense_please:
PS Father Abraham had 12 sons
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common_sense_please:
Thank you ras!
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common_sense_please:
First off I'm sorry about the idiot comment--I really meant that it is idiotic to spend money and resources to do this study because for one we already know that at the micro DNA level we are all related and considered to be human beings and second nobody is going to read the results of this study and go --oh I am related to Jews in my ancestry--I guess that means I should not hate them or kill them anymore--
Also you prove my point because you bit my head off for incorrectly suggesting that the Pashtuns are of Arabic descent--can you imagine the complete chaos it would cause by proving they are Jewish?
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Yay, more fun facts to mess with religious fundamentalists! My favorite!
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EdJoyProductions:
Yeah i love how islam validates Christianity.
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EdJoyProductions:
Explain?
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EdJoyProductions:
rappers,
Whizz, whizzzzz!
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EdJoyProductions:
Excuse me, ibrake4rappers13 year old. You have explaining to do. You have been known to make some outlandish statements, without ever having to clarify what it is you mean to say. In this instance, you had better show some spine and stand by what you said with an explanation.
So how does Islam validate Christianity?
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Everybody on the frigging planet is descended from one mutant ape that must have felt awfully lonesome.
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I wonder if this research will be quashed.
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