U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Bible Codes
source: http://ABCNews.com
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The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.
U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.
One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.
According to a government contracting watchdog group, fedspending.org, Trijicon had more than $100 million in government contracts in fiscal year 2008. The Michigan company won a $33 million Pentagon contract in July, 2009 for a new machine gun optic, according to Defense Industry Daily. The company's earnings from the U.S. military jumped significantly after 2005, when it won a $660 million long-term contract to supply the Marine Corps with sights.
"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It's literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we're fighting. We're emboldening an enemy."
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hardknockxpert
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As much as I would like to be stunned by this, I am not. At the rate that idiocy continues to dominate many facets of our society, why do we continue to be surprised about things like this? I have to ask myself that many times a day.
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hardknockxpert
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hardknockxpert:
Me too, despite trying not to think about it
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chasingame
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Leave it to Christians to think that their religious inscriptions belong on our military hardware. Self righteous religious freaks just have to proselytize at every opportunity they see.
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chasingame
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NotFooled
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chasingame:
Just like you atheists ?
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NotFooled
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ryan8566
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chasingame:
curious...what would atheists want inscribed? my take is nothing more than the model,#of rounds, and whatever is necessary for military use. what else?
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ryan8566
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chasingame:
Nothing.
At least I wouldn't. If I was gonna decorate my murder toy I'd put art or something historical on it or something.
I imagine that if there was a god, he probably wouldn't be interested in our prick waving contests.
And lol @ proselytizing atheists. Go ahead and take a picture for me the day an atheist knocks on your door and asks you to give up your religion, otherwise that one is called psychological projection buddy.
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Saladin
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chasingame:
Here on current it happens everyday, telling people that just because they believe in GOD that they are stupid, weak-minded or whack job. How is that not proselytizing ? Saying that you know the truth and trying to convince other people that you're right.
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NotFooled
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unimatrix0
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This needs to stop - it is ridiculous and perverse - no self respecting Christian would want this.
Bible quotes on anything the gov issues is a clear violation of the first amendment.
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unimatrix0
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unimatrix0:
It's just Bushism. -Remember?
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unimatrix0:
Bushism? No. It's America.
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Saladin
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unimatrix0:
America is what we make it.
As long as I live and breathe, that kind of shit won't be "American."
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Saladin
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unimatrix0:
we no longer have the liberty to say this is simply "a Bushism". it is now, and has been for a year, an "obamaism". i always enjoyed the easy way to point to bush---but now we have to tell the current administration to cut the crap, as promised.
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ryan8566
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Bushido
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It is a clear violation of Separation of Church and State. If these were verses from the Satanic bible or even the Koran, I am sure you'd take issue.
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Bushido
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mojojuju
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I don't think it's wrong to put inscriptions that reference bible quotes on anything. It is kind of weird to put them on gun scopes of all things. I could see putting them on broomstick handles, or pencils, stationary, or even tents. But having these on gun scopes for what I assume are not hunting rifles, well it just gives me the creeps.
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Atalanda_Cameron:
the easiest way i can think of is for the u.s. gov't, when awarding the contract, to make exact specifications, as it does on all other purchases. "oh, by the way, we don't wan't any inscriptions on these or we will purchase elsewhere." we should also bear in mind that any of these weapons that may be confiscated will make great propaganda.
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ryan8566
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Saladin
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And people have the audacity to say that Christianity isn't violent.
Funny then, that along with this bible quotes end up in defense department briefings and that all the heads of these PMC's are violent Fundamentalist Christians.
Something spooky is going on right beneath the surface, this might actually -be- a crusade in some respects.
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Saladin
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Saladin:
Every religion claims to non violent. Most, if not all, have crazies who take the religion and do what they want with it. Right now, Christianity has the most crazies followed closely by Islam at number two. (my subjective opinion)
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Guyatthebusstation
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Saladin:
the only difference is that the crusade isn't to "regain the holy land" (though if you consider oil holy, well, then I stand corrected.)
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Saladin:
Anyone who tries to claim that Christianity isn't a violent religion is insane. Our religion was born by an act of violence and we haven't stopped fighting and killing in the name of Christ yet.
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Saladin:
Yep, biblical citations inscribed on gunsights proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that all of Christianity is violent...couldn't be clearer...give me a break...
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Saladin:
Your point about a crusade just under the surface is an idea. But maybe they also see it as civilization winning out. But crusade non-the-less, maybe. Maybe unspoken, even.
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Saladin:
Cztheday, you are right! I shouldn’t have suggested that all of Christendom was blood thirsty and violent. I was only talking about my own experience and the feelings and reactions of myself and my brothers when we first got to Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, as part of the initial invasion force for Operation Enduring Freedom.
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jessicacarsten:
You should probably post this kind of info on a thread that has something to do with Haiti; this is not one of those threads. But btw it makes sense that the US military was concerned about getting Americans first; this is no secret, Obama made it clear that rescuing Americans was a top priority.
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