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Ron Paul On World War I & US Interventionism

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  • Antone_Blansett
  • Antone_Blansett
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      Antone_Blansett  
    • Race- The internationalists, the leadership I mean (and should have more clearly explained-my bad) are communists.Still, there are a lot of communists in Europe. You are right that Europeans are losing their nationalist tendencies. Nationalism has often been linked with the Nazis. But for me and most Americans, we don't want to be like Europe. They have socialism, free health care and limited speech. We, as Americans, view socialism as an anethema to freedom. Most of the Brits I know came here from GB because they couldn't realistically start a business, own a home, go to college, or live without some hassle from the government. I am not a citizen of earth, I am an American. Right now, there is a Liberty Movement growing in Europe not seen since the liberal movements of the 18th century. Again, our country has spurred a movement to free people of all walks of life to reap the fruits of their labor, live without government influence and be responsible unto themselves for their own accomplishments or failures. Socialism is slavery. You pay taxes that are so oppressive that you work half of you life for the government. The services the government offer are poor, rationed, and you are dealing with a monopoly where you wait for extended, unnecessarily long lines. The doctors are overworked, underpaid and tied down by red tape. But then, if you are unemployed, you can't find a job. The other unemployed think you're an idiot for working, and you get sucked into the system never to escape. America is great because we've inherited the results of the brain-drain in Europe due to them getting one dictator for another. Nothing changed but the master pulling the puppet's strings. They are still poor, they are still oppressed and their rights are doled out by the government. I just don't want to live that way. I am not downing you on your opinion, just telling you how I see it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Antone_Blansett
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      Antone_Blansett  
    • Timmic- I don't try to pretend to know everything but I do know politics. I also know economics. I come from a very political family, have been involved in politics my entire life. I am approaching 27 years in the military reserve, have 2 degrees- PoliSci and Econ., have worked in an embassy overseas and now am in the private economy. I have fought in 3 wars and been deployed on many other police actions/deployments. I AM NOT A KID! If you would bother to open your Constitution, you would see that everything Ron Paul wants to do IS IN THE CONSTITUTION! I am not for a constitutional convention as then they could take out or put in anything they want! Our people are asleep, they have forgotten what the constitution says. While many of our people may be "not in the mainstream", they aren't necessarily nutcases. While Ron Paul's views are extreme, WE NEED AN EXTREME READJUSTMENT TO BRING US BACK TO THE CONSTITUTION WHERE WE ARE PROTECTED FROM OUR GOVERNMENT AND REMOVE SPECIAL INTERESTS FROM THE SEATS OF POLITICAL POWER! If you consider yourself a Reaganite, then you should know that Ron Paul was the only candidate during the last election that had ever been endorsed by Ronald Reagan. Follow these links:

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252847,00.html
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyXW1hb-JQg
      If we pass the Audit the Fed bill, then WE WILL AIDIT THE FED! THEY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. THEY WERE AUTHORIZED AND ORGANIZED BY CONGRESS, THAT MAKES THEM AUDITABLE! THEY CONTROL OUR MONEY SUPPLY, THAT MEANS THAT THEY MUST BE AUDITED! THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN AUDITED YEARS AGO BUT OUR CONGRESS DID NOT CARE! THIS IS A TYPICAL FUNCTION OF TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO FORCE THIS THROUGH? DON'T YOU THINK SOMETHING IS WRONG? THE MAN IS NOT CRAZY WHEN 317 MEMBERS OF THE SAME HOUSE FEEL THAT THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND 30% OF THE OTHER HOUSE FEELS THE SAME WAY! I am not going to argue whether you know politics or how much you have remembered or forgotten. Congress is on the verge of passing this. The people want it and have been speaking out. You have the right to believe whatever you want, but when you say someone is a nut, you'd better be able to back it up. Otherwise, you're just another person who has his head where you think my attitude should be! I'll put my knowledge of politics up against yours any day!

    • 2 years ago
  • Antone_Blansett
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      Antone_Blansett  
    • Antone_Blansett:

      Unfortunately, there's been one capitalist society in recent recorded history. It was here in the Americas. The colonists, were the capitalists for the short while until governments were established by their respective empires. Then it went back to more and ever growing government control. The first socialist society in the Americas was the Massachusetts (I spelled it correctly) Bay Colony and it almost killed everyone in the Stalinist style. The elitists didn't want to work and those who did work produce less due to their seeing the ones not working getting the same amount of food and the productive. They went to a free market system the next year.

    • 2 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
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    • Ron Paul Quotes

      "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." - Ron Paul, 1992

      "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

      "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992

      "What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" - Ron Paul, 1992

      http://www.realchange.org/ronpaul.htm

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
  • Dagum
  • unimatrix0
  • ScottyT
  • Mike_Beitler
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      Mike_Beitler  
    • Ron Paul is right. A foreign policy of military interventionism is wrong. American is going broke; we can't afford this interventionist policy.

    • 2 years ago
  • Lunaris19
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • Antoine, europe is full of communist? Huh? Where? Who? Western europe has a form of socialism for the most part which is something different, and my point was that the idea of being trapped in national identity in europe is waning.

      I'll use your logic Antoine... I live on the earth, love it or leave it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  
    • I am overwhelming happy to see so many people jump to Ron Paul's defense! Astounding! While there may be a few dead fish hanging around, it's good to see some common sense and decency. While Ron Paul may seem radical and a nut, he has put forth some of the most sound ideas of our time, and they're not even new ideas!

      How quickly we forget the lessons hard-learned by our forefathers and most generously passed onto us. His opponents should be more grateful that he and supporters like myself have yet to take to arms. It's more than justified at this point, and the persistence of peace should be acknowledged and respected. Persist and we will overcome. All in due time.

      Great post!

    • 2 years ago
  • tommic
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      tommic  
    • Antone, Don't suppose you know more about the fed and Ron Paul than me or anyone else. I have been following politics, government and poicies for forty years. I am not writiing a book here to impress you or anyone else. I have forgotten more than you know, so take your attitude and shove it where the sun don't shine. Ron Paul is a nut, the world is not one where the U.S. can just say we don't belong here or there. Its not black and white but many shades of grey. To do as Ron Paul and his nutcase followers desire would mean calling a constitutuional convention, something I am not opposed to. But to think that Ron Paul can lead the population to call for an audit of the fed is naive, it won't happen. Congress won't do it thats for sure. You probably aren't aware that the United States need only have three more states sign on to the call for a constitutional convention and it would have to happen but the forces to be will never let that happen either. In closing you are an opinionated no nothing.

    • 2 years ago
  • bbar
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      bbar  
    • tommic:

      "But to think that Ron Paul can lead the population to call for an audit of the fed is naive, it won't happen."

      You are aware that HR 1207 made it through the House Financial Services committee without Mel Watt's amendment and then passed the house, right? Regardless of whether the bill is made law, Ron Paul has done an excellent job of bringing attention to the Fed. And for that alone he has done more than anyone else I can think of (with exception only to the framers of our constitution, who he is merely defending) to contribute to the correction of our current financial catastrophe as well as our future economic sustainability.

    • 2 years ago
  • OrbViper
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      OrbViper  
    • Being not from America, I'm not really as involved in this, I know a few things about Ron Paul, not too much. But I was just hit by the fervour of his supporters on this page...tis a bit full on. I noticed that the anti-Paul guy was hit for not looking at it on the other side, but it also seems some of you are doing this as well. I don't mean to aggravate anyone, just saying what I've been seeing as I'm reading down the page...

    • 2 years ago
  • Antone_Blansett
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      Antone_Blansett  
    • The more I read, the more I get disheartened by the lack of knowledge of those who vote. Ron Paul is not a racist. Things were put out by other people in his name and that isn't fair to him. What about this big deficit that we have in our name and we had no more say in it than we would if the government has stolen our credit cards or our identity. That is what has happened. And then there are those who say things about the one guy in Washington who has tried unsuccessfully, for years being the only one to do so, under ridicule, that trying to make it stop is crazy. What is crazy is not trying to make it stop. The U.S. keeps doing the same things shown unsuccessful throughout history and continues to expect different results. According to Einstein, that is insanity! Ron Paul doesn't believe in isolationism, he believes in non-interventionism. There is a big difference. Critics of this type don't understand what that means. That means we don't get involved with the domestic policies of other countries nor do we get involved with disputes between other countries. A classic example of interventionism is the "Blank Check Policy" of Germany toward Austria in WWI. Now, if there is a danger of running out of prospective allies against an-empire-on-the-march, then we must get involved in order to preserve our sovereignty. Otherwise, we are just simple tourists, merchants and students. We're supposed to walk softly and carry a big stick. This is the intent of the forefathers, not an empire which destroys good will and subverts other people (and our own) to virtual slavery. Read history. We are recreating the Roman Empire and we will be doomed to it's fate. Timmic- you are completely out of touch with how government in a republic works. We will audit the Fed, and if found to be dirty, which if the audit isn't tainted, it will be found dirty, we will abolish it. That is what he's been trying to do for years now. We need an alarmist because everybody else is asleep. Our employees have been working to sink the company and now we want to audit the accounts. Race Bannon- I don't care what others do in their countries, this is the U.S. and I am proud to be an American. These internationalists ARE communists. The reason why they want one world government is because they can't have competing currencies, markets or politics. If people can see the grass is greener on the other side, they'll dissent. That is what happened to the Warsaw act and the Soviet Union. They tried to compete economically and lost because there was no incentive, just the lash of the whip. Also, money and currency will always exist. Capital is what makes the world go 'round! Dump the Das Kapital, comrade. Go Ron Paul!

    • 2 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • Antone_Blansett:

      "Ron Paul is not a racist. Things were put out by other people in his name and that isn't fair to him."

      Get real. Those "things" were published for 20 years in a newsletter carrying his name, which he approved, which he published, and which he made money from.

      You are either completely naive or deliberately deceptive.

    • 2 years ago
  • ScottyT
  • kilo88
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    • Antone_Blansett:

      dear unimatrix0,

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/

      Ron Paul - "Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Ghandi, they're the heroes [of my life]."
      "Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea."

      you're taking the same tactics of the people who accuse Obama of being a socialist fascist with no birth certificate and an Acorn in the pocket do, taking the slightest bit of conspiracy evidence that is barely connected to him and sensationalizing it to appeal to the uniformed and ill-educated, the editor of publications was responsible for the newsletters and Ron had little control after he sent his writings in, come on unimatrix0, i thought a fellow atheist would be better than that and use more rational and objective thinking,
      and if you are so afraid of libertarians or a libertarian way of thinking, why bother fighting it unless you get pleasure from the hatred? i mean if you believe that the liberal/progressive/big-government way is superior surely that side would win in the interstellar political conflict and you could pretty much lean back and stew in self-satisfaction while watching star trek

    • 2 years ago
  • jeanest
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • Libertarians right in some ways wrong in others. I like Ron Paul to an extent for his alternative opinion, but his approach is completely wrong. I guess I'll make some points

      1. Preaching a policy of anything close to neutrality is national suicide, for example take Japan before the arrival of commodore Perry. If they had continued their policy of neutrality we may have never had modern Japan in the way we do today. We all live on this earth, together, and without that ability to constantly interact, exchange ideas, technology but most importantly the exchange of culture then america will stagnate behind the world. I'm not saying we should be involved in war, but we need to be involved in world affairs of course solely for altruistic purposes. If I'm wrong about his isolationist views then please correct me, but after reading some of his stuff I'm lead to this conclusion.
      The world will globalize, no matter what thats our destiny as humans. People in europe are beginning to care less their own national identity in favor of just being european. Soon they will care about just being human beings, and then no one can use nationalism to divide for gain. They're even asking in some countries (like Scandinavian countries) how we as a people can move to a new system that isn't based on capital. Now the question I toil over is if the world will globalize and create a global class system wrapped in plutocracy or a global community. This leads me to my next point

      2. Money!!! To me capital & currency is the the problem. Its gives birth to poverty, corruption, pollution, crime, racism and creates all the problems of the world. The world and humanity lives in a constant reaction of itself, from a historical stance its safe to say that capital gave rise to socialism, the reception of which by the ruling classes gave rise to communism which in reaction to those nations behavior gave rise to totalitarianism. Its not that simple but still correct. Librarians want to live in this perfect capitalism which in their eyes if was practiced would cure the world of its ills and at the same time technological progress. So in this world no one would care if someone invented something that made their profession obsolete, or had an idea that threatened their livelihood but bettered the world, or gave away something like a cure for a disease for free? As long as we play by the rules of a system thats destined to fail, continue to use money as a means of separation then we're destined to have the orwellien world we're supposed to have prevented.

      Sorry to say this but Ron Paul may be swell but this idea was clearly not thought out too well. I think the desire to have something different has brought people to follow him, but just being different than what we have isn't enough for humanity.
      I suggest serious reflection on this matter

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • RaceBannon:

      No, no, he is not for isolationism! Quite the opposite, he is pro-noninterventionism. He accepts free trade but is against false free trade documents like NAFTA, a 2000 page document that does nothing to cut down protectionist barriers and tariffs and instead gives International corporations alternatives forms of protectionism. There is a huge difference between isolationism and noninterventionism.

      I can understand how you favor barter, in fact, I believe Dr Paul agrees with you that barter would still be better than the current system of fiat currency that is unbacked and serves as a form of corporate welfare. Central banking is a problem and Dr Paul is known for calling out the mythical fractional reserve banking system. All in all, he also wants to introduce competing currencies, which means, stop the monopoly control of credit, and allowing us to preserve our wealth. Currency is really just SUPPOSE to be another way of representing a way to facilitate trade easier, instead of having to trade eggs for chickens...

      IF we are going to have a currency system, it should be transparent and unmanipulated by the bureaucrats. Opening up competing currencies and auditing the Federal Reserve DOES represent your best interest.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I30pNR32IOE

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klz6wqbwI40

    • 2 years ago
  • RaceBannon
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
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    • Excerpt from "Angry White Man The bigoted past of Ron Paul" Published in the New Republic

      Martin Luther King Jr. earned special ire from Paul’s newsletters, which attacked the civil rights leader frequently, often to justify opposition to the federal holiday named after him. (“What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!” one newsletter complained in 1990. “We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.”) In the early 1990s, newsletters attacked the “X-Rated Martin Luther King” as a “world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours,” “seduced underage girls and boys,” and “made a pass at” fellow civil rights leader Ralph Abernathy. One newsletter ridiculed black activists who wanted to rename New York City after King, suggesting that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,” and “Lazyopolis” were better alternatives. The same year, King was described as “a comsymp (communist sympathizer), if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”

      While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled “The Duke’s Victory,” a newsletter celebrated Duke’s 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Senate primary.

      http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4...

      The cult of Paul will obfuscate, deny, and attack the messenger. Don't buy the lie.

    • 2 years ago
  • kilo88
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      kilo88 [removed]  
    • unimatrix0:

      racism is an ignorant form of collectivism and was support by the big-government policies through Jim Crow laws, I don't know what goes on in Ron Paul's mind but surely racism would contradict with his philosophy of individualism and personal freedom,

      unimatrix0, i think you are just looking for anyway possible to discredit him and aren't even bothering to look at it from a different angle, things aren't two-tone, and if you want to keep your life in hatred that's fine but please don't try to spread it, at the center of non-violence stands the principle of love

    • 2 years ago
  • ScottyT
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • unimatrix0:

      Why would you post the same exact thing in a different format? Would it be because you haven't used your google search and you've only got this limited and ancient piece of info to share with us? You talk about the cult of Ron Paul but coming from someone who tries the same approach repeatedly expecting different results, please excuse me for not listening to you and assuming you're insane.

    • 2 years ago
  • tommic
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      tommic  
    • Ron Paul should just go away, he is an alarmist without the answers to the problems he outlines. Isolationism is not the answer in todays world. The federal reserve bank that he bitches about is independent from the U.S. government and there is nothing he can do about it, the fed will never allow itself to be queried on monetary policy. Unfortunatly. Without Obama calling for investigation with the attorney general the federal reserve bank will continue its perverted policies that favor the uber rich.

    • 2 years ago
  • ScottyT
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      ScottyT  
    • tommic:

      Apparently, you haven't been keeping up with current events. Why then, if the Federal Reserve is so independent, is there so much arm-twisting and bickering about retaining Ben Bernanke as its chairman? Furthermore, why would someone like Tim Geithner, the former President of the New York Fed become our Secretary of the Treasury?

    • 2 years ago
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  
    • tommic:

      Tommic, the fact that you describe him as Isolationist should give anyone a clue that you have done almost no research on his policies and ideas.

      I wish to not assume you're so poor in comprehension. If you've really taken a look at his ideas, and opened your ears and mind, you could never honestly come to such a conclusion.

    • 2 years ago
  • bbar
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • It worries me that Ron Paul didn't even make the prelims in this election. I don't understand how no one was interested in his ideas until Obama started spouting them, and so far he hasn't followed through with any of them. It actually looks as though he's backing up the old regime with his policies now.

    • 2 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • oppressed1
  • kilo88
  • mojojuju
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      mojojuju  
    • unimatrix0:

      What you need, unimatrix0, is some kind of automated computer program. One that would on regular intervals, scrape Current for any content related to Ron Paul. Then upon finding Ron Paul stories, the automated program would automatically post your favorite Young Turd video as a reply.

      Maybe Current has an API that would make this really easy.

      You just think your video is just like irrefutable and conclusive evidence that Ron Paul is a racist - Dontcha?

      RON PAUL IS A RACIST BECAUSE SOME GUY SAIZ SO ON TEH INTERNETS!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • zHellas
  • Almibry
  • afloyd60
  • newpatriot20092
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      newpatriot20092  
    • For too long we have used our country's resources to fight other people's battles. Our country is broke and too much of our money has gone to pay to try to fix someone else's problem. We no longer have the money and it is insane for us to go deeper into debt this way. It is time to bring our troops home from foreign soils and let the world fight their own battles. Maybe then they will realize how much we have given them instead of calling us names.

    • 2 years ago
  • paintress
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      paintress  
    • Ron Paul was right no matter how you look at it so you warmongers who also call yourselves Christians need to stop and look around for a while

    • 2 years ago
  • ScottyT
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      ScottyT  
    • Pay our bills and get along with our neighbors. Damn, it's a policy so easy that a person with an eighth grade education could understand.

    • 2 years ago
  • lsantiago35
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • Aww... No posts for Ron Paul. I voted for you man. Wrote it in. Yea... If you weren't so old your that SSN is 1, I might be your groupie.

    • 2 years ago
  • shanklinmike
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      shanklinmike  
    • Almibry:

      Keep on following the big government two party system....more war, more welfare....more force..... on a society that is already enslaved..... You are just fueling the enslavers! The more money you send to D.C., the more lobbyists it will attract....

    • 2 years ago
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