Judge Henrik Tonning couldn't deny if the male/female roles were reversed, the penalty would likely be harsher.
source: http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/search/article/933966
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HAMPTON - After beating him with a frying pan and stabbing him with a kitchen knife, a Rothesay woman avoided jailtime and returned home with her victim/boyfriend.
Judge Henrik Tonning couldn't deny if the male/female roles were reversed, the penalty would likely be harsher.
Instead, he followed the joint recommendation of Crown prosecutor Kelly Winchester and defence lawyer Al Levine by sentencing Mary Lisa Joyce Carrier to a six-month conditional sentence, followed by one year's probation for assault causing bodily harm.
Carrier, 21, sat next to the boyfriend she assaulted and still lives with during her sentencing in Hampton provincial court. When she stood to be sentenced, he stood with her and often put his arm around her.
Winchester explained it was on the night of Nov. 15, 2009 when the Rothesay Regional Police Force was called to a domestic disturbance on Scott Avenue by a witness who said a man was being stabbed outside.
Winchester said an argument began inside the apartment the couple shares, during which time Carrier struck him several times with a frying pan. He grabbed her cell phone and ran outside to call his father to pick him up when she charged after him, taking a kitchen knife with her. She stabbed her boyfriend several times in the right shoulder area, the Crown explained.
She said witnesses heard him yell "don't stab me."
Winchester said after the incident the victim wanted to drop the charges because their relationship is going well and they are seeking counselling together. She said because of the seriousness of the assault, ignoring the incident was not an option.
Carrier is also going to counselling with members of her family, as well as individual counselling. Among the issues is her struggle with anger management, both the Crown and defense said.
There is evidence of drug and alcohol use that contributed to the violence, the Crown added.
Levine said his client works full-time for a fast-food restaurant and said on the night of the attack, she had taken some sleeping pills and alcohol. She has a history of depression and has been on medications in the past to help, and has since been prescribed more effective medications by her family doctor, he pointed out.
"We've learned ways to come together and respect each other more. We're just getting along a lot better than we were," Carrier told the judge, wiping her eyes.
Tonning said domestic violence is a big problem that cannot be tolerated.
"Domestic violence is problematic," he said. "This is a situation that's fraught with danger. These situations can, in fact, turn into fatalities."
He said if the role was revered and it was a man who beat his girlfriend with a frying pan and then stabbed her repeatedly, he is "doubtful" the sentence would be as light.
"More likely he would be incarcerated for a significant period of time," Tonning said. "(But) I don't intend to rock the boat today."
He told Carrier to accept the support she has and get help for her issues.
"Everyone needs a little help now and then," Tonning said.
Under the conditional sentence she must abstain from alcohol and non-prescription drugs and take programs recommended by her probation officer.
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jubal
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The bottom line here is the disparity in sentencing. If women want to have equal rights to men, they must also have equal responsibilities and must get equal punishments for the same crimes committed by either sex.
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jubal
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jubal:
That is a good point. Equality across the board.
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MotherForTruth
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jubal:
Agreed
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MotherForTruth
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feefer2010
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Abuse is abuse regaurdless of the abuser's gender. Men are often ignored or riddiculed when they find themselves victimized by wives or girlfirends.
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DJverboten [removed]
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Hopefully she gets the help she seems to want to get.
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MotherForTruth
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PMS is not an excuse for violence. As a woman I can tell you that surely hormonal imbalance does affect us but there are many ways to treat the symptoms. There are too many women excuse their anger outbursts or even violence due to PMS and it is simply not acceptable. What about men? Men also suffer hormonal imbalance, the most common effects are exhibited during the teen years. The society has no tolerance for men's hormonal imbalance. Take a look how many young men are in prison. Throughout the life man just like women have many health issues, hormonal misbalances, life stress. Our judicial system seeks excuses for women and the rest of the society follows. Men are the first to accept and forgive violence. In fact I find it amazing that men will even defend many wrongs done by women all while women are less forgiving and flat out revengeful.
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Mariased
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NO ONE should be able to get away with something like this unless it's in self defense. This case doesn't seem to be. She should have been punished to the full extent of the law.
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Mariased:
I agree, Mariased.
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Mariased:
The potential to make someone happy, in my opinion, doesn't override a crime. Men can make me feel better about myself, too. However, if my boyfriend were to stab repetitively me and hit me with a frying pan I'd hope he'd be punished thoroughly.
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WeAreChangeKy
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OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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regjoeschmo
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Insane or not, people need to be held accountable for their actions..... Just htink of what this man would have gone through if he were the one being violent.... still he chooses to stay, and that is his own fault.... he should know better....
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MotherForTruth
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Interesting thought. The good news not all women are infected. There are many kind, honest, fair and decent women. If this man could hear me he needs to run and run fast. He does not need this kind of relationship, if she stabbed and beat him up once she will do it again. Nothing he can do to change her violent behavior nor can he prevent it in the future. Domestic violence must be stopped. Male victims deserve support just as much as female victims do and both male and female abusers must be held equally accountable for their violent actions.
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MotherForTruth:
True, totally true. It sounds like a very unhealthy relationship.
And just imagine this "woman" with children. Now that should send shivers down your spine.
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MotherForTruth:
Unfortunately there are many men who built family with violent, angry and vindictive women. Women like these use their children as tools of distraction of their boyfriend or husband. It is simply outrageous that mental health community or judicial system has not invested any time or resources to resolve such serious terrorism.
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Progresshiv
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Isn't the assumption underlying such disparate sentencing that women are insane and are, therefore, not responsible for their actions?
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Progresshiv
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Progresshiv:
I often find myself wondering how much of this "crazy 4-days a month" stuff is real and how much of it is conditioning and performing to meet society's expectations. I have never personally found that women are crazy at any time during the month, only that our patience for bullshit wears thin when we're not feeling well ... but isn't that true for all of us?
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Progresshiv:
It's not an easy thing to "pull your head out" when you're surrounding by the patriarchy and a culture bent on keeping you convinced that you're hysterical and know nothing about anything, least of all your own emotions and biology.
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curtisreed
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Progresshiv:
Nice post, that's sadly hilarious.
What's really amusing is that some people will actually try to use that as an excuse. "Oh, well our emotions get out of control."
Really? Well you don't live with 1/10th the level of testosterone that men live with and is tied so closely to aggressivity, and yet we have no tolerance for such behavior. It reminds me of the athletes who shoot up with steroids and it makes them aggro, no one seriously considers dropping the charges or letting them get off scot free because any "the hormones made me crazy" defense.
It really is yet another indication of the double standard that women want to be equal, but also be treated as "more-than-equal" before the law.
CuteBruiser said it pretty clearly: "It's not an easy thing to "pull your head out" when you're surrounding by the patriarchy and a culture bent on keeping you convinced that you're hysterical and know nothing about anything, least of all your own emotions and biology." Aw, you can't control your emotions and keep yourself from assaulting your boyfriend with a deadly weapon because of the "patriarchy" in society? Really?
I'd have to say that if you get to the point you attack your partner with knives, being labeled "hysterical" is actually kind of an understatement.
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