Community | February 04, 2010 | 118 comments

Prof. Francis Boyle: Israel Is Committing Genocide

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``What we're seeing in Gaza now, is pretty much slow-motion genocide against the 1.5 million Palestinians who live in Gaza.... If you read the 1948 Genocide Convention, it clearly says that one instance of genocide is the deliberate infliction of conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of a people in whole or in part,'' stated Francis A. Boyle, professor of International Law at the University of Illinois in Champaign. ``And that's exactly what has been done to Gaza, since the imposition of the blockade by Israel; then the massacre of 1,400 Palestinians, two-thirds of whom were civilians, in Operation Cast Lead. And that also raises the element in the Genocide Convention, of murder, torture, and things of that nature.''

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118 comments // Prof. Francis Boyle: Israel Is Committing Genocide

  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • where to even begin?
      doesnt the very defenition of genocide mean that the targeted population would be on the decline not on the rise?
      its like saying the tobacco companies are commiting a genocide on americans despite our population growing despite the millions dead from cancer.

    • 1 year ago
  • Introspective
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      Introspective  
    • 1st off, i'm not Jewish/Christian zealot...but i find the so-called professor lacking credibility..."slow-motion genocide" lol...its called selective warfare...something the ill-educated professor knows little about...i assume he'd be happier if Israel wiped them out in one fell swoop...this guy is a joke!

    • 2 years ago
  • BUILDUSMAXIMUS
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      BUILDUSMAXIMUS  
    • OBAMA GETS AN "F"....The Anti-Defamation League

      The Anti-Defamation League’s National Director Abraham Foxman gives President Barack Obama an "F" – a failing “report card” grade after his first year in office for his “accomplishments” in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

      In an exclusive Newsmax interview, Foxman also criticized the Obama administration for failing to show leadership in supporting reformers in Iran in the wake of their recent presidential election. He also warns about the growing threat posed by homegrown Islamic terrorists and sleeper cells in the United States.

      Editor's Note: See Newsmax.TV video with Abraham Foxman below.

      The Anti-Defamation League, or ADL, the nation’s premier civil rights organization, was founded in 1913 to battle defamation and discrimination against Jews, but its scope has broadened and today it is at the forefront fighting against bigotry of all kinds.

      Foxman has led the ADL for 23 years and is known around the world as one the United States' most respected Jewish-American leaders. He is the recipient of many awards, including the French Legion of Honor, France’s highest civilian award.

      In a sit-down interview with Foxman conducted this weekend, Newsmax.TV’s Kathleen Walter asked Foxman how he would rate Obama’s handling of the Israeli-Palestinian situation.

      “I would give him an A for effort, a C-minus for strategy, and an F for accomplishment,” Foxman responded without hesitation.

      “I think the intentions were good. I think the strategy to put pressure on Israel, to put forward the settlement issue as a litmus test, not to put pressure on the Arab countries, not to put pressure on the Palestinians, not only failed but it set the peace process back.

      “In the past administration, under Bush, [the November 2007 peace conference at] Annapolis brought the two parties together. They talked about all kinds of issues while settlements were being built. And now for us to get to where we were before will take a great deal of effort.”

      Palestinian National Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has refused to restart negotiations with Israel unless certain preconditions are met, including a complete halt to Jewish settlement construction. Walter asked Foxman what the Obama administration can do to move the process along.

      “I think the president and his administration should put more pressure on the Palestinians, embarrass them a little bit,” he said. “Why are they making preconditions? If peace is important, why is there a need to set all these preconditions which didn’t exist before?

      “I would like to see the administration also move a little more directly on the Arab states, on the moderate Arab states, on the Saudis, on the Egyptians, on the UAE, for them to put pressure on the Palestinians to go back to the table. There’s also the issue of Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

      “I believe the president has a bully pulpit. He has a very clear moral voice. I haven’t heard it in terms of the world community singling out Israel. It would be nice to hear it publicly. I think that may bring back the balance and maybe move the peace process closer.”

      http://newsmax.com/Headline/foxman-obama-middle-east/2010/02/07/id/349206?s=al&a...

    • 2 years ago
  • IngloriousBitch
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    • No, Jews are not perfect, we are not a "superior race." We aren't chosen for anything but a hard time. But we airlift people like that INTO our country. We save starving people. We don't run them over on the way to war because of a land dispute and some religious differences and some oil.
      Not one Palestinian has EVER starved in Israel or Gaza like these Sudanese kids. Don't even get me started on Islamic Somalia.
      In fact, many Palestinians became doctors and lawyers in Israeli schools.
      I wonder if they have any compassion for what their war on Jews has done to Sudan? To other Muslims?

    • 2 years ago
  • IngloriousBitch
  • IngloriousBitch
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      IngloriousBitch [removed]  
    • W.I.S. I will admit I am biased. I am biased towards a nation which has remained cohesive and strong in diaspora and survived a halving of thier population only to rise up and UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK, claim 30%, hearing me??? 30% of all Nobel's, cure dozens of ailments, develop drip irrigation to benefit the world, and showed up to every disaster (even when we weren't wanted) to save thousands of lives. I don't care if you give me a laundry list of people who need a cause celebre to be famous for bad research.
      NOT ONE Islamic country can claim ANY of these types of acheivements.
      Our record of character should be taken into account in any biased or unbiased assesment of the situation. Our UNPRESCEDENTED amount of steps of warning civilians cannot be ignored.
      Neither can the Palestinians record of blatant racism and violence.
      Considering Palestinians lived in poverty before Israel (slaves to the Hashemites in Jordan) and now have a better standard of living than many Islamic nations,
      everyone else can kiss Israel's ass.
      Hamas is a part of a genocide in Sudan. 3 million people dead or dying. Half a million confirmed dead!!!! It is amazing that going to war with a genocidal regime group like Iran, Sudan and Hamas, that there is no great true seige or actual war like WWII that includes hundreds of thousands of Islamonazis and civilians dead. And this is a testament to Israeli and JEWISH values for the preservation of civilian life..

    • 2 years ago
  • trut
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      trut  
    • IngloriousBitch:

      So you are a supporter of a Greater Israel. Israel good, other countries bad, let's expand Israel. Good points, these African countries do suck, Israel is a better place than Sudan, yes.

    • 2 years ago
  • IngloriousBitch
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    • trut:

      If the Sudanese people could only have half of what they have in Gaza, or a quarter of what they recieve in per capita aid in Palestine as a whole, we wouldn't see pics like the one I posted. And in 33 plus years I've never seen a Palestinian kid that skinny even in the hospital.
      Like I said, no one is perfect. But there is a marked difference in Human Rights Evolution and court process in Israel versus in Islamic countries as well as a drastically different process of saving lives and protecting lives. A difference in overall standard of living, a difference in religious freedoms and free speech, and a DRASTIC difference in overall LIVES LOST!
      We are talking about millions versus thousands, declared war versus random massacre of civilians, warnings versus surprise attacks on civilians, limiting aid to non-weapons producing goods versus outright starvation of a population as in Sudan.
      Housing units along the Gaza shore are being bought up by Hamas with PA dollars donated by the EU and UN and increasing property values 300% so that NO Gazan can really afford it unless he kills for Hamas.
      All things being relative....Israel good and getting better ecologically, civil rights wise, and legally, Islamic Nations not so much. Hamas, for sure not at all.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      So your saying that the IsraeliAmerican Cooperative is anti Jewish?

      Walks you are a contradiction, so V posted verses in the Koran that happen to be in the Virtual Jewish Library, and that is negative how?

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • trut
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
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    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciOGS6r97oE

      Wafa Sultan speaks truth to neanderthals.

      The conflict between the Jews and the Arabs is a struggle between civilisation and barbarism, between rationality and psychosis, between modernity and primitive backwardness.

      The Israeli-Palestinian clash is a religious conflict, driven by Islamic jihad and the deranged hatred Arabs feel towards the Jews.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
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    • Excerpts from the Hamas Charter.

      "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

      "The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

      "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

      Absolute evil.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • jimmysemens:

      Its beautifully filmed, but what is your point, that they make better movies? You claim that Islam seeks only death, while Judaism seeks only life, I beg to differ. I am painfully familiar with the Talmud, the Torah and the Prophets. Genocide is the second name for the God of the OT.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • trut
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      AIPAC is the Israeli political action committee that donates millions of dollars to congressmen, senators and presidential campaigns. Their whole political agenda is to further the interests of Israel and influence US politics.

      They are what I would consider Zionists.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      Walks frankly for being such an intelligent, well educated teacher and investigator, for you to claim that you don't know what AIPAC is is ludicrous. Now I think you are just yanking our chain here. Are you that ignorant?

      I think a lot of Zionists would be outright offended by your suggestions of other meanings for the acronym.

    • 2 years ago
  • jimmysemens
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • they got their claim to this holy land by killing all fo the people who lived there in th first place, why should they change their actions now!? (sarcasm)

    • 2 years ago
  • jimmysemens
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    • MYTH

      “Palestinians living under ‘occupation’ have the lowest standard of living in the Middle East.”

      FACT

      When Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza Strip in 1967, officials took measures to improve the conditions that Palestinians had lived under during Jordan’s 19-year occupation of the West Bank, and Egypt’s occupation of Gaza. Universities were opened, Israeli agricultural innovations were shared, modern conveniences were introduced, and health care was significantly upgraded. More than 100,000 Palestinians were employed in Israel, and were paid the same wages as Israeli workers, which stimulated economic growth.

      The rise in violence during the 1990s, and then the war instigated by Palestinian terrorists beginning in 2000, has taken a heavy toll on the Palestinian economy. To protect its citizens from suicide bombers and other terrorists, Israel was forced to take measures that had a deleterious impact on the economy in the Palestinian Authority. The most serious step was to limit the number of Palestinian workers entering Israel to reduce the risk of terrorists pretending to be workers slipping into the country. This raised the level of unemployment, which, in turn, had a negative spillover effect on the rest of the Palestinian economy.

      Despite the collapse of the PA economy from the last five years of war, Palestinian Arabs are still better off than many of their neighbors. The most recent Human Development Report from the United Nations ranks the PA 102nd in terms of life expectancy, educational attainment and adjusted real income out of the 177 countries and territories in the world, placing it in the “medium human development” category along with most of the other Middle Eastern states (only the Gulf sheikdoms are ranked “high”). The PA is ranked just 12 places below Jordan and one behind Iran; it is rated ahead of Syria (#105), Algeria (#108), Egypt (#120), and Morocco (#125).

      Few Palestinians would trade places with Arabs in neighboring countries. Well, perhaps, with one exception. They might aspire to the standard of living in the country ranked 22nd by the UN – Israel.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • jimmysemens:

      The sad thing is that so many people who are Anti Islam and Anti Palestinian do nothing to distinguish the radicals who foment the violence and hate from the peace loving people. The same happens in the opposite direction, you have Anti Semitic and haters who cannot differentiate between radical Zionism and peace loving Judaism.

      There are radical fundamentalists in all branches of Abraham's descendants; Islam, Judaism and Christianity. All of these religions have radical violent elements who seek to make their extreme interpretation of god supreme over all the others and are willing to die in the service to their radical point of view.

      Islam has their terrorists, Israel has its Zionists of who many are not Jewish but Christian, while Christians have their radicals who murder abortion doctors and commit horrible atrocities to lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgendered people. We have Christian militants in this country in the form of the KKK. I could go on, but I think you catch my drift.

      You are not helping any form of dialogue that would lead to peace, you are merely fomenting more division and hatred based on pushing the extremes.

    • 2 years ago
  • jimmysemens
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    • MYTH

      “Israel’s complaints about Palestinian terrorists hiding among civilians are just an effort to justify their murder of innocent people.”

      FACT

      Israel never intentionally targets civilians. Unfortunately, Palestinian terrorists have purposely tried to hide among the civilian population in an effort to use the Israeli army's morality against it. The terrorists themselves do not care about the lives of innocent Palestinians, which is why they are not hesitant to use them as shields. This behavior is a violation of international law. Article 51 of the 1977 amendment to the 1949 Geneva Conventions specifically prohibts the use of human shields:

      The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular attempts to shield military objects from attacks or to shield, favor or impede military operations.

      Thus, the Palestinian terrorists are ultimately responsible for noncombatants who are inadvertently killed or wounded as a result of the terrorists' practice of hiding among civilians to use them as shields.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
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    • MYTH

      “Israel’s policies in the territories have caused a humanitarian crisis for the Palestinians.”

      FACT

      It is important to remember that Israel offered to withdraw from 97 percent of the West Bank and 100 percent of Gaza, and it is the rejection of that proposal, coupled with incessant Palestinian terrorism, that has forced Israeli troops to carry out operations in the territories. Though these actions have caused hardship for the Palestinian population, the IDF has continued to ensure that humanitarian assistance is provided to Palestinians in need. For example, during just one 48-hour period , the IDF:

      * Coordinated the movement of Palestinians seeking medical care, assisting 40 to go to hospitals, including four patients from Gaza who were transferred to Israel for medical treatment.
      * Coordinated the movement of 284 Palestinians in the West Bank who were transferred by ambulance.
      * Coordinated the passage of building materials for the construction of a hospital in Kalkilya.
      * Coordinated the passage of humanitarian goods to Bethlehem.
      * Coordinated entry of ration cards sent by an international aid organization to the residents of Azoun.
      * Enabled the distribution of ration cards by the Red Cross in Salfit.
      * Coordinated the passage of agricultural produce and food between Muassi and Khan Yunis.
      * Coordinated the passage of an UNRWA team in Gaza to aid in the disposal of rubbish.
      * Arranged entry into Kalkilya for an Israeli Arab family from East Jerusalem to attend their son’s wedding.

      Even at the height of military action, such as the operation to clean out the terrorist nest in the Jenin refugee camp, Israeli forces have gone out of their way to assist Palestinian non-combatants. In the case of the Jenin operation, for example, the hospital there was kept running with a generator delivered under fire by an Israeli officer.

      The best way to improve the situation for the Palestinians in the territories is for the Palestinian Authority to take the steps laid out by the Bush Administration — end the violence, reform its institutions, and elect new leaders — so that peace talks may resume and a settlement can be negotiated.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
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      jimmysemens [removed]  
    • MYTH

      "Israel is pursuing a policy of genocide toward the Palestinians that is comparable to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews."

      FACT

      This is perhaps the most odious claim made by Israel's detractors. The Nazis' objective was the systematic extermination of every Jew in Europe. Israel is seeking peace with its Palestinian neighbors. More than one million Arabs live as free and equal citizens in Israel. Of the Palestinians in the territories, 98 percent live under the civil administration of the Palestinian Authority. While Israel sometimes employs harsh measures against Palestinians in the territories to protect Israeli citizens – Jews and non-Jews – from the incessant campaign of terror waged by the PA and Islamic radicals, there is no plan to persecute, exterminate, or expel the Palestinian people.

      In response to one such comparison, by a poet who referred to the "Zionist SS," The New Republic's literary editor Leon Wieseltier observed:

      The view that Zionism is Nazism — there is no other way to understand the phrase “Zionist SS” — is not different in kind from the view that the moon is cheese. It is not only spectacularly wrong, it is also spectacularly unintelligent. I will not offend myself (that would be self-hate speech!) by patiently explaining why the State of Israel is unlike the Third Reich, except to say that nothing that has befallen the Palestinians under Israel's control may responsibly be compared to what befell the Jews under Germany's control, and that a considerable number of the people who have toiled diligently to find peace and justice for the Palestinians, and a solution to this savage conflict, have been Israeli, some of them even Israeli prime ministers. There is no support for the Palestinian cause this side of decency that can justify the locution “Zionist SS.”

      The absurdity of the charge is also clear from the demography of the disputed territories. While detractors make outrageous claims about Israel committing genocide or ethnic cleansing, the Palestinian population has continued to explode. In Gaza, for example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to 1,800,991 in 2008, an increase of 81 percent. The growth rate was 3.8 percent, one of the highest in the world. According to the UN, the total Palestinian population in all the disputed territories (they include Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem) was 1,006,000 in 1950, and rose to 1,094,000 in 1970, and exploded to 2,152,000 in 1990. Anthony Cordesman notes the increase “was the result of improvements in income and health services” made by Israel. The Palestinian population has continued to grow exponentially and was estimated in 2008 at more than 4.2 million.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • jimmysemens:

      The legal definition of genocide

      The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.

      Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:

      1) the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such", and

      2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called "genocide."

      Article III described five punishable forms of the crime of genocide: genocide; conspiracy, incitement, attempt and complicity.
      Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide

      "Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      (a) Killing members of the group;
      (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
      (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
      (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
      (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

      Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:

      (a) Genocide;
      (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
      (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
      (d) Attempt to commit genocide;
      (e) Complicity in genocide. "

      http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext-printerfriendly.htm

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • jimmysemens:

      Nazis didn't just target Jews, they were in the majority, but they weren't the only ones. But you and Walks make it seem like the Jews were the only people in history that ever experienced genocide. That is where you two fail completely and miserably in swaying anyone to believe in your positions, because they are extreme and disingenuous. You can not admit that Israel does anything wrong. You defend Israel as though it were untouchable and above reproach.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Vierotchka
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Vierotchka
  • IngloriousBitch
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      IngloriousBitch [removed]  
    • And another thing, those genocidal fanatical Israelis just went to a CATHOLIC country and saved thousands of lives with a military hospital. And we all know how hard the Catholic church works to save Jewish lives. I am so sick of the blatant racists on this site. Jews have a right to a homeland and to be free from Islamic fundamentalism and terror.
      Tell me, where was the Muslim faction in Haiti?
      Saw a hindu, but not one Muslim.

    • 2 years ago
  • trut
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      trut  
    • IngloriousBitch:

      Kudos to the Israeli doctors in Haiti. From what Israel hear they saved quite a few trapped Haitians let alone who the hospitals helped. I sure hope I don't hear about any questionable organ harvests. Let's all behave ourselves now.

    • 2 years ago
  • IngloriousBitch
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    • I can prove this whole argument is based in racism against Jews because there is not one mention of Egypt or Jordans role in the DIRECT genocide of hundreds of thousands Palestinians after 67 nor their desire to isolate Hamas as well. Pure racism and Seraphina you are guilty of blaming the JEW for a regional radical terror problem. Deal with it. Guilty, guilty, guilty. Focus on the other countires that are more to blame or once, like Iran which has funded genocide of THREE MILLION in Sudan by sending arms to Hamas. It's just pitiful how ignorant and trendy people can be. Got ur cool scarf kids?

    • 2 years ago
  • ChunkyCheezes
  • BUILDUSMAXIMUS
  • BUILDUSMAXIMUS
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      BUILDUSMAXIMUS  
    • You should walk the streets of Haifa, Tel Aviv, Tripoli, Jerusalem....Beirut, and Gaza.
      Nothing short of "pathetic circumstance" these children grow up in.
      Go there, see first hand what they are being dealt ......London is getting thier dose, and coming to a town near you.
      Jimmy you failed to mention the schools funded by the Saudi Arabia......right, those. The icing comes forth in the form of political correctness.

    • 2 years ago
  • Seraphina76
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      Seraphina76  
    • The kind philanthropist Netanyahu "allowed" some commerce for their good behavior. All claims of genocide are hereby forgiven. Of course it has nothing to do with the fact they have overpowered the Palestinians into submission. Please refer to image below.
      Our native Americans shouldn't complain either, because they have their reservations and casinos.

    • 2 years ago
  • Seraphina76
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  
    • jimmysemens:

      any open air market looks like abundance. any grocery store for that matter. what people are saying is wrong is the systematic eviction of the Palestinians from their native land and the eye for an eye terrorist tactics of the Israeli government. using white phosphorous is not fighting terrorists, it's committing terrorist acts. Israel is a rogue state and it needs to be stopped.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • Vierotchka
  • jimmysemens
  • trut
  • Seraphina76
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    • jimmysemens:

      yes...I dare to speak of the hatred that has killed untold millions of people, but is more of the benevolent anti-propaganda kind.

      I feel genocide against any race, color, creed, religion is a crime against all of humanity. It wasn't ok when the Nazi's did it and it's still not ok when the Israelis do it. Accusing the Israeli state is not the same as blaming all the Jewish people either.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  
    • jimmysemens:

      you're wrong. our protest of the actions of the Israeli government are not bigoted or hateful in any way shape or form. the secular government of Israel needs to be held accountable for their actions against the civilian populace of Palestine, and it's illegal expansionist policy against the Palestinian people.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • trut
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      trut  
    • The enslavement and ghettoization of the Palestinians is only the beginning of the Zionist's plans. They are calling and demanding a "Greater Israel" from the Nile to the Euphrates, Walks in Storms.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • trut
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      trut  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      Its common knowledge son, why don't you click on the link to Jimmy and check it out if you're not scared. Forget about it i'll redo it just for you.
      saveisrael.com/stern/saveisraelstern/htm
      Its not me saying the Zionists claim a greater Israel.

    • 2 years ago
  • Seraphina76
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      Seraphina76  
    • Exactly, and to question their motives is to be antisemitic and pro terrorist. What the powers that be call a terrorist is merely a human being forced into fight or flight mode.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Vierotchka
  • AmericanStandard
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      AmericanStandard  
    • One of the biggest problems here is the American media and America's unilateral support of Israel. We hear about it every time that a Palestinian attacks Israel but we don't hear about what Israel does to Palestine. The have constructed a wall 5 miles into Palestinian land, and bulldozed countless houses belonging to Palestinians in the process. When the Palestinians tried to stand in the way of the dozers they were paid no attention and crushed if they did not move!! Also Israel has built colonies throughout Palestinian territory and connected the colonies with highways that Palestinian's are forbidden to travel on. So now i ask you, what do you think we would do if another country did this to our nation? I know what i would do and that is absolutely everything humanly possible to drive the invaders from our land!! Unfortunately the American media doesn't report details such as these because public opposition to Israels actions would severely hurt US munitions sales and put political pressure on the government to cut ties with one of our few allies in the middle east. Our unilateral support of Israel is one of the main reasons why soo many people in this area hate us! Israel is the only country in the world that we supply Blackhawk helicopters to along with a plethora of other weapons of war. This problem is actually a result of American action in the 50's( i believe circa 1955) when we divided the land up between the Israelis and Palestinians. Dont get me wrong these groups have been fighting for hundreds of years but segregation is not the answer and it actually makes tensions worse (especially given the treatment of the Palestinians!). Zionist Jews have a controlling share of our media and as a result we dont hear the full story. Ask Jimmy Carter who has been to Palestine, and Israel and he said it is a modern day apartheid, supported by US supplies, and carried out in the name of every one of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • Seraphina76
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      Seraphina76  
    • Let's put this in perspective...an outside force comes in and takes over your city bit by bit, systematically destroying your way of life, cutting off your access to supplies, jobs, water etc. Kills your family, friends, and neighbors. Tears down your homes, hospitals, etc. to make way for their settlements. Basically imprisoning you and closing the walls in.

      How, pray tell, would you react?

    • 2 years ago
  • AmericanStandard
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Seraphina76
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      Seraphina76  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      You compare illegal immigration with Israel's Illegal invasion of Palestine and that some violent illegal immigrants are the same as military domination. That's a huge leap in reasoning.

      And it is our responsibility to civilize the savages??? That explains your reasoning perfectly. It's the culling of the natives all over again. Europeans/Israel invading the Americas/Palestine, and the justification is taming the savage beast.

      I'd find this hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly sad. It is prejudicial justification for genocide.

      That good ole cowboy/Nazi mentality is alive and well. The "superior" race will dominate all,

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • Uelthomas
  • NapoleonBlownapart
    • +1
      NapoleonBlownapart  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      That's a very good point and an interesting example... The fact remains though that Israel isn't being forced into any such no-win situation by external forces, they're just refusing to give a ethnic group any viable land to live on because of their own religious fundamentalism.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • NapoleonBlownapart
    • +1
      NapoleonBlownapart  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      what guy are you talking about? I don't see what you mean exactly about "the facts remain as they are". what facts do you mean in particular? Of course if it's easier to just lump me in with "people who disagree with you" by all means go ahead. You don't absolutely HAVE to be a dickhead to have a conversation on the internet, just fyi

    • 2 years ago
  • Seraphina76
  • kurthsb27
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      kurthsb27  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      if i was the Israeli government i would get the fuck out of Palestine, considering i have no right to be there. and all those "terrorist" are just people who are defending what was once there home. If china invaded america and a soldier waltzed into your house would you say oh yes please do whatever you want with my country and my family and my life. fuck no you would fight back like any normal fucking person and then you would be labeled a terrorist.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Walks_in_Storms:

      If I were the Israeli government, I would admit my crimes, I would return their lands to the Palestinians and pay them full reparation for all the killings and thefts I had committed, I would cease to commit genocide and would at last start acting humanely and honestly.

    • 2 years ago
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • trut
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • trut
  • Progresshiv
    • +1
      Progresshiv  
    • "Until a radical change takes place and we wipe out all nationalities, all ideologies, all religious divisions, and establish a global relationship - psychologically first, inwardly before organizing the outer - we shall go on with wars." - J. Krishnamurti

    • 2 years ago
  • tommic
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      tommic  
    • I didn't need to read this Prof Boyle to have known for a long time the crimes the Israeli's commit in the name of their own security. Its just funny how a group of people who have been persecuted for thousands of years can justify their treatment of other human beings this way. Limited clean water and sewage in Gaza, those in Gaza have to smuggle cement in, I guess cement is a danger to Israeli Jews. The whole thing is a travesty.

    • 2 years ago
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