Army will Violate Due Process by Deploying Marc Hall to Iraq for Court Martial
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“It is our belief that the Army would violate its own regulations by deploying Marc and it would certainly violate his right to due process by making it far more difficult to get witnesses. It appears the Army doesn’t believe it can get a conviction in a fair and public trial. We will do whatever we can to insure he remain in the United States,” said Hall’s civilian attorney, David Gespass.
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JonRaymond
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slarabee:
You missed an important point. Marc Hall is not in Iraq. He is in a U.S. military prison and will be deployed to Iraq for the court martial. Isn't that a quite ludicrous and obvious a ploy to deliberately try him without due process?
You cannot fault the Army? The Army is obsolete, as is the entire military and DOD. In this information age territorial occupation is meaningless to any PERCEIVED threat or enemy. Any group of people can easily operate globally with disregard to what nation they happen to reside in. For the U.S. to occupy a country in supposed defense of America from that country is total bull-fucking-shit.
What does that have to do with Marc Hall? Absolutely nothing, which is why deploying him to Iraq is bullshit and a transparent Army ploy to deny his rights, even under the UCMJ (military law - as you describe as him giving up his rights), which does in fact provide for due process.
This particular Army, in this particular America of 2010, with it's now revealed racist policy of illegal preemptive war, has become accustomed to ignorance of the law, all law, civilian and military. It is an unchecked, out of control, organization of dictatorial rule. I fear now, more and more, and with stories like Marc Hall's, that this country is headed toward a totalitarian state, just as was Nazi Germany.
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JonRaymond
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slarabee:
I'm not saying do away with the military. I'm just saying the wars we are in now to occupy territories are useless and obsolete, which makes this case irrelevant to our current wars. To condemn a man simply for making threats is a technicality.
Your take that the Army is a strong as the weakest man is simply obtuse. The military keeps a tight watch on all it's members through very close supervision on a 24 hour basis. Whenever someone is out of line, they are identified and dealt with. But prison is an extreme, especially for a victimless crime. To not prosecute this man and let him be discharged as he is due to be very shortly, would be the most reasonable way to handle this. To throw him into jail is sadistic and shows the military as vengeful. Vengeance is not at all productive in any way for anyone.
The real problem here however, even if you agree that all the charges are justified, is that the military no longer even honors it's own UCMJ. It circumvents that for what ever political reasons are in play. This is very dangerous. As I said, the issue goes beyond one man. It is a threat to the American ideals of due process and justice be it military or civilian, as well as the standing civilian and military laws.
It is simply wrong. There is no way it is justified, unless you say the military is above the law and answers to no one.
- 2 years ago
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JonRaymond
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