US Christians want to jail homosexuals

Thank you ethical vegan for sharing that heart moving story. I felt like you were ripping pages out of my life. I just wanted to say that I love you and I wish you were my mommy. You rock when it comes to love and acceptance. I am proud to be a community member with you.

Wow. I lived in White River Junction in the 80s and it saddens me that Ms. Underwood's son did not find the happy little misfit brigade that I was part of. For the two years I went to Hartford High School, the weird kids, the unattractive, the gay and anyone else not deemed acceptable by the elite were way welcome in the misfit brigade. We had 3 mostly uncloseted gay boys and at least 4 that were of questionable sexuality, but no one in the group cared.

Yes, we all lived under a supposedly Christian community and we had trouble with narrow minded assholes, but we had each other and we stuck up for each other. I am saddened to see that our unofficial group did not continue.

Did you? The truth is, you're nothing but a naysayer, bigdaddy. A naysayer whose opinions will die with your generation.

Didn't you hear? The community has already organized to take back all the symbols of hate that were used against them. Taking ownership of the symbols, words, and slogans takes their power away to offend us. So go ahead call us faggots or queers, or issue us pink stars, whatever. We are invincible.

All you can do is take our breath away, torture us, mame us, and shame us but you cannot erase our identity anymore.

It's probably true that they only want to live and be happy etc.etc. but I'd really want to see that fight!

I agree with you, as a member of the LGBTQA community, I can tell you that all we want is peace and love, but sometimes you need to scratch some bitch's eyes out for dissing you. Its the American way. (sarcasm)

Seriously if that we could all live in peace with our liberty intact and without fear of attack or reproach.

No shit, its because they pick and choose which OT laws to follow and which to ignore, what ever floats their boat at the time.

Wow... Jubal used the word shit.... WOW... Since i've joined current, I have not heard Jubal (my idol!) ever use profanity.. I guess there's always a first!

Oh shit I said shit. You must have missed the few times I used the F word. I appreciate your idolatry, thanks....LOL

I promise to do better.

NP! You're one of a few folks that I do admire and learn from on a daily basis. It's always great to read your posts!

I've seen Jubal curse. It's fun. :)

Its okay he has a right to do so. He controls himself enough in the middle of all our craziness here in Current haha...

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It doesn't matter what type they are. When you try to pass laws based on religion you are automatically violating what this country is about; secularism. Law in this country should never be informed by religion.

I agree completely, I hate generalizing so I think it would be kind to write at least who said it, when, in which magazine...

I agree with Urban, it doesn't matter what kind of Christian they are, they're the hate filled kind. I assume because you're asking you're Christian? If you are and you hear people bitching about gays, please say something, because you can get through where I can't. I'm a witch and doomed to hell so it doesn't matter what I say, in fact it's best to do the opposite... Ignore me!

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... Magazine??!?!

I don't like to generalize either, and your right when you say that not all Christians are the same. I just hate when some think that this country should be run on Christian beliefs, it completely ignores what the founding fathers tried to create.

Sorry, I thought Christians have magazines not real newspapers.

We have the same problem in Italy except we already have the Church's nose in every politic affair. As soon as some law about marriage appears some cardinals start saying that the christian principles must be defended, we still have movies prohibited and censored by the Church can you believe that? Not a lot of movies but as soon as there is one that gives a too rough impression of the Church (Some crazy historians say that priests used to burn women and massacre people) the movie can't get into Italy.

In theory. I would like to believe what you say, but I think Bush got elected into office because he spouted the correct beliefs, same goes for several senators. I think the system would be greatly improved if we required an IQ test and eliminated the electoral system.

"7" LOL!

People who claim that homosexuality is a choice have made a choice themselves, in spite of their secret lustful passions to get it on with hot guys and the fact that they get a woody watching sports, to pretend that they are normal and attack others for what comes naturally. They justify their hatred and bigotry by wearing Morality as a blanket.

At least 70% of people who hate homosexuals themselves are terrified that they too are homosexual because of how their bodies react. Of course its all camouflaged under the clothes.

And you probably never again will... sigh.

Right, by prohibited they mean a misdemeanor and a ticket.

Come on, get a clue.

I think ive made my positions quite clear.

You wrote: "I think ive made my positions quite clear."

Your positions, therefore, would be....

Missionary position only, one man on top of one woman, penis into vagina, right? Oh, and only if you are married, right? And only to make a baby, since you said sex is for making babies, right? After a woman passes menopause, should the male/female couple stop having sex, since the woman's no longer a baby machine?

Can we have a HELL YEAH for KSirys?!

Hell Yeah! K. ;)

...HELL FUCKING YEAH!!!

yeah, but how many wars were started because the aggressor was homosexual and the defender wasn't?

So his policies and uncontrollable spending must have nothing to do with it.

on what possible legal grounds?

I really dont want my kids exposed to that type of thing.

Im not sure how i would make an argument for it legally, but it should definetly be an ethics issue.

Your personal beliefs have no place in dictating what other people have the right to do.

Besides, defining "public homosexuality" is a slippery slope. If I were to hug my female friend and kiss her on the cheek , would that be considered "public homosexuality"? What about wearing rainbows? A t-shirt with a pro-gay message? Pride parades? It could dissolve into a gay witch-hunt.

You can't make a legal argument for it Ibrake.
I don't believe you're able to make an ethical argument either.
Homosexuality isn't contagious. You're kids can't catch Gay just by seeing it...
You should be worrying about more important things.

I'm going to pull a potentially nasty stunt.

I will agree with Ibrake4rappers13 that public homosexuality should be made illegal, if he agree that Mexicans shouldn't be allowed to be Mexicans in public in the United States. It can also follows the same logic, you don't want your kids exposed to homosexuality, I might not want my kids exposed to the crap that stereotypical crime stricken latino's bring into this nation.

Now I'm going to make sure I point this out. I do not really have this viewpoint on anyone of Hispanic decent, nor Hispanics as a whole. However, my mock argument and justification, no matter how offensive, is just as valid as the justification you used for your argument.

There's one big flaw in your reverse logic trick. homosexuality is a choice, being mexican is not.

Ibrake, homosexuality is not a choice, you're either gay or not. It's not a fashion style where people are gay one minute and straight the next.

Gee, I would agree with you and all, but the genetic component that determines people to be homosexual has been discovered. In some cases people do choose to swear off the opposite sex and try to be attracted to people of the same sex; however, in most cases people who are gay are born with a gene that makes them attracted to people of the same gender.

Seriously you cant put people in the place of animals, Im a firm believer in mind over matter.

Some people have homosexuality ingrained in their thinking by some things they may have experience during their childhood.

Let me ask you this, are people born theifs?

Do you choose to be attracted to women ibrake?
Sexual attraction is an involuntary reaction that starts at a neurochemical level.
Don't pretend to know things you don't.

Voted up!

Yes i am attracted to women and i plan to marry one when i find the right one, But homosexuality is unnatural and immoral.

Platonic love between the same sex is fine, there really is no need for it to turn sexual.

"homosexuality is unnatural and immoral."

Bahaha!
you lose...

I know for a fact you aren't able to explain why homosexuality is "immoral and unnatural."

Well let me think about it, what good could come from being penetrated anally?

So people aren't animals and you believe in mind over matter?

If you believe in mind over matter, can you change the color of your eyes if you try hard enough? Can you make your hair fall out or grow faster with the power of your mind? Can you make yourself taller with the power of your brain? Those might be a bit off from what we're talking about. Let me try a slightly different approach. Can you smell cyanide? Some people can, but not many. It is something that they can do because of their DNA. If you don't have the gene, it doesn't matter how hard you try, you can't smell it. In a similar fashion, if you can smell it then you will smell it, unless you plug your nose, but that's cheating. Now for another hypothetical question, if it's not genetic, prove it. Why don't you try to become sexually attracted to another person of the same sex then go back? It doesn't really work.

Now moving back to the people aren't animals. Yes, we are. Take away all of the comforts, the guarantee of food, shelter, warmth, and the other basic needs for survival and people act will act like animals, and they will do that for a very simple reason, because people are animals.

Finally, yes, some people are ingrained at a very young age to be things. Homosexual is not really one of them, but being a pedophile is. Most pedophiles were sexually abused as children. Some children were sexually abused by homosexuals and as a result became pedophiles when they grew up. They didn't turn outright into homosexuals when they grew up, they turned into pedophiles. Now, homosexuals are not pedophiles by definition. However, particularly in the Catholic Church, homosexuals were turned into priests to prevent them from ever having their sinful sex, or any sex for that matter. The problem is, just because someone is homosexual or strait, doesn't mean that they have the discipline to become a priest who will give up sex. Well you can't go proposition another fully grown man as a Catholic priest, so who is left to you? For people with poor self control who were forced to be priests, it was arguably a choice, but it was more a lack of options.

Oh, about the anal penetration and how it can benefit you. Anal penetration is the quickest way to stimulate the prostate, which usually produces more powerful orgasms. No I've never tried, but I do have a powerful thirst for knowledge and I have access to the internet. You might be surprised what you can find if you look stuff up out of curiosity. FYI, you should be more concerned about that for any kids you might have than homosexuality.

That's easy- pleasure. For some people.
You might as well ask, what good can come from sex with birth control...
Still nothing "immoral" or "unnatural"

The anal cavity is not meant for that

But (no pun intended) that begs the question. If the anal cavity is not meant to be used in that manner by some people, then why is it something that is biologically possible and probable to receive pleasure from?

im sure you could say the same thing about beastiality,

Two flaws with that little argument. First, we're talking about homosexuality, something that is proven to have a genetic cause. There aren't really any genes that make people hard for animals, or at least none have been discovered.

Second, just about all bestiality in the sense that you are implying involves the animal receiving. The topic has so far been shaped towards the taking it in the ass by a willing male human. What makes your bestiality argument invalid at this specific point is that we are talking about, or at least I assumed we were talking about, consensual sex. An animal can't consent so rape is implied.

Sex is "meant" for reproduction.
Anal sex is as unnatural as birth protected hetero sex, or oral sex, which I'm sure you've probably had ibrake.

are you speaking of your own personal experience?

Sadly, I believe rappers is for real. His bigotry is unwaivering and his knowledge of his own religious belief is woefully lacking.

I don't dislike the kid, but his capacity for understanding anything outside of himself is impaired.

Is Ann Coulter single? She might be a good match except the few dried up eggs she has left are inscribed with 666. If you don't mind being the father of the antichrist, I think you two could have a nice life together.

I think you are possibly bi-sexual or just ignorant of the truth. For one to believe that homosexuality is a choice, one must either be able to imagine themselves choosing homosexuality, or be ignorant of the conclusion that logically follows from the fact that one is unable to choose homosexuality based on a negative emotional/instinctual reaction to the idea of having sex with the same gender.

If one feels naturally repulsed by homosexuality, then it's not a choice. We do not choose our feelings. Do you choose who you love like a robot would - go over the list of pros and cons and make a rational decision to love the person who has the most pros? OR does one just fall in love whether they want to or not? Love is an instinct. All emotions are instincts.

Can you imagine yourself having gay sex? If not, how does it make you feel. If you're like me, the idea of gay sex does not turn you on. Why? Is it because you made a rational choice? If the idea of yourself having gay sex does turn you on but you choose not to give in to those temptations then -- and only then -- does your assertion that homosexuality is a choice make any sense whatsoever, or rather what would make sense is that you THINK homosexuality is a choice. It is not a choice for me. I am heterosexual. I cannot explain my attraction to the female body -- it just happens naturally.

I love Italian food. Why do I love Italian food? Is it a choice. Hey, I guess today I'll stop liking Italian food and start liking eating dog poop. Why not? Feelings are a choice right? No. Is it possible to make the choice to love the taste of dog poop? No. One does not choose what they like and do not like, they only react to those feelings.

Here's my take on you. You WANT homosexuality to be a choice. That is why you assert it even in the face of all logic and reason and scientific research. You like to look at the world as black & white, good vs evil, etc... It is a very primitive world view, but it comforts a certain type of person to be that way.

Either that or your are a closeted homosexual and you naively feel shame for it.

Good luck figuring it out.

Yes being Mexican is not a choice neither is being Gay please use some forms of facts or medical evidence before posting that way you dont come across as a complete fool.

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thats cool, no hetero public affection then. sound good? no hugging, kissing, holding hands, anything... how about you keep your hate filled mouth closed my good sir.

Until you have been penetrated anally you would never understand the pleasure it is. Another tremendously pleasurable thing is to use your tongue to tease the anus. There are hundreds of thousands of nerve endings in the whole region from the anus to the scrotum and all around the penis.

If god intended for people not to use their anus for pleasure, why would he make it so packed with pleasure sensitive nerve endings?

I know straight guys who love to have their girlfriend penetrate their anus and directly stimulate their prostate. It makes them ejaculate with greater force and with a greater content of semen.

Yeah its true, he even admitted it one day several months ago.

Thats just sick Jubal

Well whats good for the goose is good for the gander.....

What I think is sick is the relentless posting of comparing homosexuality to a thief, bestiality, unnatural, immoral, illegal, evil, child molesting, etc. that bible thumping Tea bagging people hammer home day in and day out. All I hear coming from the Tea Bagging right is how the homos and the Illegal Latinos are ruining this "god fearing" nation.

Frankly I have been fucked up the ass with that bullshit enough, its not fun, and they aren't using any lube. Its called a dry fuck up the ass, and it might as well be with a broomstick like the way heterosexual cops would do to a gay person of color.

From now on I am going to fight fire with fire, or in this case offense with offense, because that is what it has come down to here, a game called "who can be the most offensive."

My intent is never to be "offensive" but if letting my voice be heard is offensive to you, then you can expect to be offended everytime i post something.