American coup d'etat: Military thinkers discuss the unthinkable

I have that version, i find it useful in my continued military training for post military personnel.

You mean the game where you're calling down predator drones from Taco Bells and doing house-to-house fighting in yuppie suburbs?

First off, if that's considered the pinnacle of American life frankly no one is going to invade us.

Second, any military operation is going to attack and secure infrastructure or other essential strategic places. Last time I checked, Burger King wasn't essential infrastructure.

Furthermore, the closest thing the game has to a realistic depiction of an American invasion is the fight in D.C., and it has trenches and all other sorts of weird WWII-era, open warfare relics.

I could go on but, I think you get the picture. MW2 is just silliness, it's an action movie masquerading as a military shooter.

well technically u can never say never and in that mission that were recover some guy codenamed raptor who was some high ranking official ( In MW2) ....its not hard to invade a country even if its not a physical one we have had hackers from foriegn countries always trying to hack our databases.

though in retrospect yes some of things in a game are just made up but some can be based on real life i mean who really knows if the cia does send ppl in missions with the bad guy to get intel and get closer to them.

reminds of the tostie pop commerical how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop the world may never know..

you'd be surprised at what lengths commanders would go to just to capture a burger king if it gave them a tactical advantage, and after a couple days of non stop bloodshed, a burger king may be the only "infrastructure" left standing
for example, during the battle of Stalingrad in WWII, individual houses were made into command posts that often would change hands between Soviets and Germans 3 or 4 times a day.
I remember a quote from a Russian commander saying he lost 25 men in a 3 hour shootout for an upstairs area, and by the next day he lost another 15 men for the dowstairs kitchen and basement of the same house

Damn. That's a high body count. I personally would go for a wal-mart if we got invaded. Guns, food, everything you can think of. I don't like shopping there, but I would loot the SHIT out of it.

They knew how to run it. They ran it, with the intent of enriching their base, 'the haves and have mores'. They succeeded, Haliburton did get 'no bid contracts'. Haliburton has so much baggage, it boggles the mind, that they were able to continue gaining, more and more contracts, regardless of facts.

Think back to the bankruptcy changes. They knew. George W. went on television and told people to refinance their homes, 'he did'. He may not have known, but he should have. The Republicans knew what was going on. That's why they bought the media. They covered their bases. Then 'they spin' liberal media. The 'liberal media' is a 'look over there' type ploy. If they are saying it, it must be true. Not!

Conniepae, you have got that right they know how to run it into the ground and not how to run government for the good of the people. It is time to shoot your local Republican before they screw up the country even more. This is the weirdest time I have lived and before I go I'm going to do my part to make it right!

Awe Kenny, don't let them turn you into using the same mentality. some of my friends are Republican at heart. Not the Republican of today, but they don't think like I do. Talk of 'killing' a Republican freightens me. I don't want Democrats wanting Republicans death, anymore than I want Republicans wanting harm to come to Democrats.

President Obama better take this shit serious. I don't put anything past the Republicans. But a coup is illegal. If people are talking coup, investigate and prosecute them. It's time to stop giving people a pass. If people are talking about a revolution, I think that's illegal too. It's time to stop giving people a pass. The bad people now walk among us. That doesn't mean they are above the law. Making examples out of the ones who are doing it, may force others to change. Some things just aren't legal. They should treat it that way. Prosecute them. Make them state their misdeeds, out loud, under oath. Expose them for what they are 'un-American'. They can't take our country by force, unless President Obama gives them a pass and does not investigate and prosecute.

If people want to talk about a revolution, don't let them do it in 'plain sight'. Make them do it behind closed doors. Not nightly recruiting on 24/7 so-called news.

Conniepae, what a sweetheart you are! True, calling for their deaths is probably a bad idea on my part but these people need just one example to straighten them out. Maybe a Rush being killed on the street or his limo or Hannity shot while fucking his gay buddy and being a hypocrite or your local talk radio rush wannabe talker. This country will wake right the fuck up when liberals start shooting the idiots.

No, that would make them martyrs and us 'victims'. Guilt by association, ya know what I mean. Besides that, the way to counter these morons, is facts. They are spinning lies and bullshit.

I have a dream, that one day a republican would try that...

you wouldn't find him ever again, if he did... hehehehehe

Well now, that's a horse of another color. I would blow their Republican ass back out the door. Someone here is a joke, but it ain't Obama. Democrats have guns too. I don't think it would be as easy as you assume. George W. and Dick Cheney thought Iraq would be easy. Boy were they wrong.

But a gradual and complete erosion of democracy into an eventual totalitarian state is very possible, likely, and even under way as we speak. The real coup happened with the appointment of George Bush II as president in 2000.

JonRaymond, you are so correct. It's over unless you can handle a gun and start shooting the very republican pigs that have brought this mess upon us.

I am guessing you haven't spent much time outside your cushy office job at current. I suggest you go out on the streets and start talking the 20% of real Unemployed Talk to the 54% of under 25 years old that don’t have a job. Or talk to the families in suburbs that picked up a new hobby of collecting food stamps… you’ll have a better perspective on how hard things are for the “lower class,” and how much love we have for the U.S. Corporation/government.

So now I'm trying to figure out with all your knowledge of the lower class why do you support the right wing?

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I have, and I still agree with him; poverty here is nothing compared to poverty in other countries, even countries where there are no revolutions. Americans are weary of political radicalism.

Because I don't support handouts from condescending, country club, Ted Kennedy liberals who ride into our communities on their white horses expecting votes for food stamps, and then ride back home to their all white gated communities. I can tell by your tone and the fact that you think a civil war in the US would be akin to a video game, that mommy and daddy wiped your suburbian ass for you, and when you grow up you fully expect Uncle Sam to do the same.

True its mostly talk but the sentiment is there. There is independence movements in over a dozen states, and they are particularly strong, in Texas and Vermont. However,if any group or person attempted to act all the talking and lip-service support would disappear over night.

The only way I could see a sustained civil war taking place would be if there was another show down with the federal government and the states. This seems to be the direction we are heading. A number of states have recently passed resolutions re-affirming their tenth Amendment rights and more troubling, some states have already passed legislation to nullify the healthcare bill that is stalled in congress.

You haven't a clue Retard!

Call of duty awaits kenneth, America needs you to fight the russians

well heres an interesting quote from you, derk
remember back in the 1980s at the height of the cold war when russia was the most fearsome country on the planet, and with the flip of a switch it could declare the world a desolate radioactive desert? nobody ever thought the soviet union would be defeated by some inside or outside force, only full scale nuclear conflict would be the answer to a war with them. then in 1991, a few years later, a military coup de'tat tries to overthrow Mikhail Gorbachevs regime that was trying for peace, and almost instigates a war with a west at the same time. the coup was unsuccessful, however IT WAS a coup. similar things may happen here, and saying a coup would never happen in america is naive at best, the coups success is another story doubt whether it would be successful, but one never knows

Oh snap!

yup

I have a new saying for the republican talking heads on the radio, ( Dead Man Talking )

Excellent point!

You first have to have something that all the states would want to revolt against. The military would never put themselves in that position. Our military strategists know in advance what would work and what wouldn't. That's why they play the politics-media game. It works for them and continues to work better all the time.

It's like the frog in boiling water experiment. You throw a frog (the American people) into a pot of boiling water (a military police state) and the frog will immediately jump out (revolution). But if the water is room temperature, the frog doesn't feel the heat rising (the military manipulation of the media and politics). And so the frog dies once the water reaches a critical temperature (the U.S. becomes a military police state through gradual military media and political control).

Well said .

It's called an AC-130 Spectre Gunship.

Your second amendment means jack shit.

The military is down for what ever their officers tell them to do. They don't have the capacity of individual thought, let alone the will to act on it independently if they did.

Unless, of course they feel an overwhelming compulsion to act with honor and free will, right? Just following orders would be a cop out.
No need to reply, I already know I'm an ass.

Yes, a very strong Christian movement in the military. In Jeff Sharlets writings he says that evangelicals are very well accommodated. As one of the panelists said, 3/4 of the military are Republicans, ergo religious.

You'll need more than guns, but go ahead and while you're at it plant some bamboo. They take some time to harvest but they're useful for leg traps, tiger pits, and spikey things set to fall on you're head or swing into your gut. Very useful bamboo is.

i would say more

and some rocket launchers

I all ready have some Bamboo growing.

I thought it reflected the content pretty accurately. A military panel discussed whether it was likely or possible for a military coup to occur in the US.

Hope they're on our side.

Court Martial the ones that aren't. They are not supposed to be an 'arm' of a political party. They are our 'army'. President Obama is Commander and Chief and anyone who thinks otherwise, in the military should visit the brig. Rogue military is unacceptable. If it's from higher ups, I would think it was a form of 'treason'.

These are very different times in which we live and the choices are our too make!