Guys, please avoid the use of terms like "conservative" as an insult: the irony is those who are true conservatives (fiscal, environmental) like me are not appreciative of being bundled with these pseudo-conservatives. Trying to protect what natural resources we have is not a bad thing.

True.

I'm just calling them what most of them call themselves.

quite truthful :)

pandaman2105, you know you have too laugh at these people who deny the weather patterns that have been coming true just like the experts predicted. All these deniers have are their sarcastic opinions and idiots they listen to on FOX and the radio. It is extremely funny to see obanaisajoke hang on too his backward beliefs and not embrace what is truly happening to our planet. He would rather throw idiot statements out there for all too see his ignorance.

Uh, I guess some here are unaware of the snow-capped peaks of Mauna Kea (Hawaiian for "white mountain"), found on the Big Island of Hawaii. The thing reaches 13,500 ft, and you can snow-board and ski on it. :)

oh yea i read about that, i was referring to the fact that there had been snow in all 49 states at the same time, but not yet in Hawaii.

seriously, forgive me for sounding ignorant or dumb.

i can't tell if you agree or disagree with me.

It apparently gives them quite a headache, I think progresshiv. Man that ignorance thing really has their panty's in a bunch doesn't it.

it means when it's warmer, as it is in the southern hemisphere right now, it's summer there, there's more evaporation. Weather currents take this moisture to other places and release, either as rain or, wait for it, SNOW. The snow fall is more severe because there is more evaporation in the southern hemisphere. But that's actually using science, which, apperantly, some fox heads are very scared of.

I believe they are saying that water vaporizes over the ocean. When the air is warmer there is more energy in the water molecules, so when the molecules collide they do not change physical states (from gas to liquid), precipitate, and fall back to the ocean. This causes more water vapor to accumulate in the air. As air currents sweep the water vapor molecules over land they cool and freeze. The crystalline water falls from the sky as snow. To summarize, warm air over the ocean is associated with more water vapor in the sky, and more snow on land.

My rants do seem to annoy some people. I just can't help it. Occasionally, I get this great big urge to attack my keyboard with orderly keystrokes designed to stimulate connections to occur in other people's brains in hopes that whatever intelligence there is might become amplified.

Yep, I'm another unabashed brainwashing liberal exposed!

This guy has made it clear he's not here to discuss, just troll. Don't feed the trolls.

PS there is no politically-correct way to tell someone they're delusional. Wouldn't do any good: they've gotta figure that out for themselves. I've always felt the best approach is to give then enough rope, and they'll figure out something to do with it (involving their neck).

I agree with your statement, except the tense you used (future vs past). It should be "Ignorance bankrupted and destroyed this country."

IMO, it's already too late to do anything, as we're already past the financial "tipping point" and morons aren't going to change. Prepare for a slow-motion crash, folks, as America spirals into 3rd-World status in the next Century.

I cant believe that is your rationale. They originally called it global warming instead of climate change so therefore its wrong. Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

Anyone who's chief argument consists of "HAAHAAHAA!" is clearly not here to share or exchange ideas in an open-minded manner...

I think its funny when you guys make it out like Al Gore brainwashed a bunch of people with his movie. You seem to forget that the type of people that watched the movie were people who read science magazines and were aware of climate change before Al Gore ever had anything to do with it. You guys are all like "Al Gore this and all Gore blah blah blah" Why don't you pick up a scientific magazine or even a biology periodical sometime.

We are laughing at you man, not with you!

I seriously hope you are not over the age of twelve. If this is indeed the case then our education system is an immense failure. Feel free to respond in capital letters and berate me for being a liberal even though I'm not one. Your brain is tiny.

I dont understand how you can be so ignorant. You do understand that record breaking precipitation or temperatures are NOT normal right? So why is it that every year we are breaking multiple records? Obviously something is NOT ok.

i had a feeling you were too lazy to get up off your butt and do anything, it explains why you're so hopelessly bought in to the faux noise party line.

That was hilarious, showing your true colors! You couldn't handle a face too face with me bro, so keep your over active imagination working too make you feel like your something that you are not.

Hey nice response. You totally addressed what i said in a very informative and polite manner. /sarcasm

Oh and for the record im not a democrat. Im an independent. Im not stupid enough to believe one party has the right ideas all the time. Guess i cant say the same about you...

edit: I noticed you voted up all of your own posts and voted down everyone who disagreed. Real mature. Its ok though i fixed that right up for yah.

Awesome addition to the discussion, two thumbs up!

Excellent post! Its so true too. Why are people so afraid to break ties with big oil? Now would be the perfect time to change our ways BEFORE we lose a tremendous amount of life.

zactly. even if global warming was a myth, there is not one single thing about being more environmentally conscious, not one single thing, that wouldn't improve our quality of life.

true :D

--------" The irony is palpable."--------

I think you will have to explain what "palpable" means, and probably "irony" too.

That explains a lot.

i sure hope u were talking about Faux News

I like that one pjacobs51.

lol it is cold up here in ottawa :D

How about, intelligence and ignorance are two different things. These people on the denier side don't even know most of the opposition information is being funded by the very polluter company's that are killing the climate.

What a troll. Ignore trolls, folks.

And for the record, sorry, but I never saw Gore's global warming movie.

how's it been jammer?

Dude, I really got too you huh, first effort is too admit it! Speaking of a hole in the ozone that everybody on your side denied forever, well tell that too the Australians and the New Zealanders who are getting some of the worst sun burns seen ever. The sooner we take measures to change our lifestyles the better for the world.

Ah, but if it was labeled "chaotic weather" the deniers would still claim that climate change/global warming was a bunch of bull because chaotic things cannot be predicted and they can still predict the weather with relative immediate accuracy.

But if the climate change/global warming was instead called "chaotic weather", the climate change deniers would still be in denial with the excuse that, "Chaotic weather is not predictable, and we can predict weather accurately a few days in advance."

You can't see how funny what you just said, is! Thats the beauty of ignorance, it's bliss!

Yup, methinks someone missed the point.

Fellas, arguing subtle distinctions of global climate dynamics with those who've never completed ANY kind of higher education is pointless.... Most of the people engaged in the "debate" no doubt failed chemistry, not to mention critical thinking.

Frankly, unless the other participants know the basics of climatology/meteorology/geology with exposure to evolutionary biology, there's little point. There's just too many idiots willing to pose as 'experts' when they don't even know what they don't know.

sup, jammer.

Awesome post Davidod!

JJ is that you?