Olympic snowboarder's 'street' style offends Japanese
source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/02/18/japan.kokubo.olympics/index.html?hpt=T3
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The 21-year-old member of Japan's national team unwittingly caused outrage from cabinet-level government lawmakers to the patrons at the corner pub when he arrived in Vancouver for the winter games.
Kokubo was wearing the team-issued uniform, which consisted of a suit, shirt and tie. But he wasn't wearing it quite right.
Kokubo's shirt was untucked, his pants hung low below his hips, and his tie was loosened revealing an unbuttoned shirt. Kokubo sported dark glasses indoors and double nose piercings. He also wore his hair down, revealing a mane of dreadlocks.
Japan's Minister of Education, Tatsuo Kawabata, was not a fan of the hip hop twist to the national uniform, to say the least.
"It's extremely regrettable that he dressed in a totally unacceptable manner as a representative of Japan's national team," said Kawabata, on the floor of Japan's parliament. "He lacks the awareness that he is participating in the Olympic Games as a representative of our country with everyone's expectations on his shoulders. This should never happen again."
The Japan Ski Association decided to punish Kokubo, along with his snowboard team manager Fumikazu Hagiwara and two coaches, keeping them from attending the Olympic opening ceremony as a show of regret.
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I'm going to refrain from making too many comments, I'll let the Current Community chime in first.
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lifestudentno83
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Meh... This seems like it's been blown out of proportion. Japan really does take itself too seriously sometimes... For crying out loud, they have Used Panty Vending Machines, but this guy cannot wear his clothes "Hip-Hop Style"?
What's the Japanese word for "Hypocrite"?
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lifestudentno83
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curtisreed
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lifestudentno83:
seriously? vending machines selling used panties?
not sure hipocrite works, but disgusting comes to mind
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curtisreed
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Fourfingaz
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Um, Snowboarders
do What they want...
They dont follow rules...
They dont belong in the Olympics....
We dont want you to like us, Cause we really dont give a shit.
We are not main stream, we never will be.
All you little POSERS that are running out and buying snowboard gear cause it's the cool thing to do right now.... Snowboarders are sitting and waiting till the next "fad" comes along that is easier so you will move on and Fucking leave us alone....Again. Please hurry up would you. All you suit and tie guys/girls that have watched snowboarding on T.V. in the big "O" and think you know what snowboarding is all about. LOL
Go back to your politically correct dinner parties. - 1 year ago
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Fourfingaz
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curtisreed
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Fourfingaz:
snowboards suck. and snowboarders are a bunch of douche bags.
Telemark is where it's at. I can free heel around you weiners while you're still strapping on your bindings and hopping like a bunch of frogs to get across the flats, and I ski up hills while you're putting on your snowshoes, the only place you dominate is in the half pipe.
and who cares about the damn half pipe?
Im just razzing you, it's cool, just not as cool as telemark.
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curtisreed
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cmd80
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dude
he's a snowboarder
I think everyone else is dressed improperly
rock on with ya dreadlocks
homeboy - 1 year ago
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cmd80
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eden49
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LITTLE BOXES...
And the people in the houses
All go to the university,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers
And business executives,
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same. - 1 year ago
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eden49
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curtisreed
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How would part of the country have felt if a US athlete wore a Stars and Bars (Confederate Flag) on his helmet?
I bet not a one of these goddamn Libtards would be saying "it's cool he's expressing his invidividuality"
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curtisreed
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jahbini
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curtisreed:
Pow! Socko! Zing!
Actually, I would hope that I would have the presence of spirit to say instead: "I think it's cool that we can allow people to have opinions that totally creep me out"
But, then again, it might take me a few moments to get there, 'cause I'm so 'tardiated.
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jahbini
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curtisreed:
There is a huge difference in wearing a swastika or insolently the " swastika of the south" in my opinion, on your uniform and leaving your shirt untucked or having a certain hairstyle, he did nothing to bring a message of hate, and comparing him to that is ignorant and ridiculous.
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europe1
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curtisreed
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europe1:
calling me ignorant, eh?
the dreadlocks have a very specific meaning of resistance within the Rastafari movement. They are not some fucking fashion statement to be coopted by a bunch of snot-nosed wannabe urban rebels. Some of the early leaders of the Rastafari movement specifically stated that they did NOT want non-blacks to wear Dreds for that reason.On the other hand, I did not say that Dreadlocks=Swastika. I used a more extreme example to demonstrate how offensive some would find that message, and voila, out you came. (and by the way, for you to call the Stars and Bars the "swastika of the south" is very revealing of A: how little you know about that flag, and B: your own bigotry and ignorance about Southerners)
Let me point out another, less extreme example: a US hockey player was chastised for wearing a "Support the Troops" sticker on his helmet. That sticker was interpreted as a political statement that was inappropriate. He had to remove it.
to the Japanese, this kid's dreadlocks are a very open political statement, a clear sign of rebellion and in their opinion, disrespect.
You may not see it that way, but guess what: you ain't japanese, genius! so who are you to tell the Japanese what they should and should NOT find offensive?
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curtisreed
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curtisreed:
hey, I'm just sayin
it's been done before
in a different way, of course - 1 year ago
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cmd80
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cmd80:
I like that picture. Lol.
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curtisreed
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cmd80:
dude, are those athletes really giving the black power salute? no shit?!
yep. there we go again.
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curtisreed
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curtisreed
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Back when I taught high school in a mostly black school in florida, my black students commented about a white kid who was trying to act all ghetto, dress like he was from the hood and talk ebonix and they asked me one day "you know what we call a white kid who's trying to be black? "He a Wigga. A White N-"
While I appreciate folks saying "let him be himself", doesn't that seem a little goofy? He's a Japanese! He's probably only met 2 or 3 black people in his entire life. It just seems ridiculously presumptuous for anyone to try to dress and look "black" when you've got NO concept of what that means.
I can just imagine what my students would have said. "He be 'flagin' Mr Reed. He trying to be a Jigga."
The Japanese have every right to judge him according to their cultural values and punish him for bringing them shame, if that's how they see it.
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you know what time it is and you knwo why they are offended...the brother should hav ebeen alowed to snowboard...funny thing is he could probably care less ...he will make his money snowboarding! PEACE
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curtisreed
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gemenilaidback:
I think you made some good points. Oddly, the complaints I heard were more about the disrespect for the uniform than for the dreds, but maybe you're right. Still, I think it's pretty stupid when I see white kids and now japanese kids trying to "act black". It's one thing if a white kid grew up in a black neighborhood and all his friends had a way of acting and so it wsa just "natural" for him to fit in. Cool, that's a cultural thing. But unless this little Jap kid actually grew up around blacks, then what's he trying to prove.
There is something else that really should be discussed, and that's the meaning of Dredlocs. We all know they are associated with the Rastafarian religion, so my question is, did this kid become a Rasta? Or is this just a fashion statement? My understanding of the teachings of Rastafarian religion years ago was that Whites were NOT supposed to get Dreds because it had a very significant religious connotation for the Rastafarians.
If that's wrong, blame it on the book about the history of Rastafari movement I read in college. But that's what the early leaders said.
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curtisreed
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gemenilaidback
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curtisreed:
"this little Jap kid ""
Is that really called for? - 1 year ago
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curtisreed
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gemenilaidback:
Jap. Short for Japanese. Just like Nip was short for Nippon, the japanese word for Japan.
I didnt' call him a slope or a chink, I just shortened it to Jap. Just like Dreds are shortened from Dredlocks, Rasta from Rastafarian, etc.
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curtisreed:
Yes, except for the fact that "jap" has huge negative overtones as fallout from our extremist positions and attitudes from WWII. Even after all this time it is still the 'J-word'
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curtisreed:
Oh yeah, the usual multi-culturistic distractions... must be politically correct, or you're quickly tagged as a racist, thereby attempting to strip any validity to which one says in order to add credibility to their perspective at the expense for those they oppose...
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jahbini:
"jap" was never a racist term. it was short for "japanese", but what the fuck. you actually expect people to be "understanding" of a racist regime that invaded Korea, China and commited unbelievable crimes?
Japanese Korea conscripted 2.6 million forced laborers in Korea.
The forced labor toll for Korea comes to 450,000 in Japan proper.
The Nanking Massacre alone in China resulted in hundreds of thousands of civilians were murdered and 20,000–80,000 women were raped.This doesn't even begin to address the cruelties throughout the Pacific, such as the Phillipines. Much less what they did to prisoners of war.
http://centurychina.com/wiihist/And you get "offended" because the word "Jap" is used, when it's nothing more than a SHORTENED form for "Japanese"?
Get over it, girly boy.
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curtisreed:
...would have loved to elaborate...Changi, Kokoda, Diggers in POW camps...brings up memories, but my generation will never forget...sigh...I've diverged, I know, but I take my hat off to him...hope we see more rebellious displays from the new generation...thanks, mate...
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curtisreed:
Wow, are your knickers in a twist. Your justifications are so well placed to create the impression that a pejorative would actually be a GOOD idea.
Smart Republican thinking.
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keithponder
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Video response from Japan.
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romnichelCHRIS
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BE YOUR SELF................. MOVE TO MEMPHIS TN
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Incredulous
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Wait a minute...this is the same culture that applauds this uniform?
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romnichelCHRIS
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there are going to blame hip hip i know it
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There's something to be said about individuality, but when you sign up for the pros' in any career your expected to operate according to THE TEAM standard.
Japan has bent over backwards to display nothing but finesse and professionalism in all parts of life so obviously, when a national rep does not embrace those values it would be viewed as an embarrassment to their national pride.In a society, There's A Time and Place for Everything.
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TasteHi:
the olympics are not "the Pros' its a collective of Pro athletes and amateur athletes. Also in the snowboarding "pros" it is perfectly acceptable who he is. Get your facts straight.
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TasteHi:
"Japan has bent over backwards to display nothing but finesse and professionalism in all parts of life..."...YEAH, RIGHT...slaughtering in our southern oceans in the name of research, dolphin culling, where the seas are red for miles around...I know, different issue, BUT still ignorance and rigidity and refusal to change...hopefully, the younger generation in Japan will change all this...
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eden49
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I agree with the customer in the story. His dreadlocks and piercings are fine. (I love dreadlocks). But he should have worn the uniform correctly. He is representing his entire country. He can represent his country by wearing the uniform correctly, but he could also add his own personality by showing off his dreads.
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I wore long braids in braids in college back in the cool 70's. I also played football. The coaches ask me to take my braids out for individual and team photos. I refused of course. Then they made me put a skull cap on to cover up my braids. The cap had "ARIZONA",(my home state) written over the front of it, so because I was at a school in Michigan, they got pissed about that too. They left my photo out of the team program that year.I handled my business every Saturday afternoon so they had to tolerate me, but I was pissed off for years. That was over 30 years ago and I'm still little pissed.
I can certainly identify with how this kid must feel. I just hope that he doesn't cave in and change for them.
Be yourself dude.
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keithponder:
But this isn't just about him, he's representing his country.
When you're on a team, you have to make sacrifices, because the team is bigger than any individual.When you are representing someone else, your image is not your own anymore, you're sharing it with the people you represent.
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keithponder:
sounds like you were being a bit of an ass. To be going to school in Michigan and wear an Arizona skull cap is a nice little "fuck you" to the people putting you through college.
We have a few words for people like that: ungrateful, unappreciative, inconsiderate.
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flyingkick:
This isn't basketball, or volleyball. When he's flying down hill on skis by himself, it is all about him and only him. If he wins, he gets a gold medal and his country gets credit for it, but he takes the medal home, not his team or his coach. When he loses, he's out of it by himself.
What sport have you ever competed in and mastered at the level that he has ?
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keithponder:
well, the world according to keith. so now the olympic spirit has nothing to do with national pride, it's all about selfish ego.
in that case, the little asshole as adopted your value system quite well, hasn't he?
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What ever happened to the old saying, "don't judge a book by it's cover" I'm sure there is an old chinese proverb that says the same thing.
Why does everyone think everyone else around them is out to get them?
It's really a shame. - 1 year ago
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VC1
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Seems pretty contradictory. Complaints coming from Japanese men who have given up their own cultural style to dress and wear their hair like white europeans!
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VC1:
wow. that was a very insightful comment. totally unexpected. I'm not sure I agree...but I'll have something to think about thanks to you.
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I feel bad that people who would be a part of a media outlet like Current, that prides itself on the coverage of self expression and straight forward real issues regarding all generations and ways of life would make such asinine statements. It saddens me they are made with such a level of ignorance and judgment, from the misinterpretation of where the jeans were worn, to the ridiculous ban on self expression. Our society will get nowhere fast as long as we continue to generalize and stereo type what people should say, think, and do. Moreover, I believe as a human collective we need to accept that all HUMAN beings are beautiful, especially those that have the courage to be who they are. Have faith in humanity it really is all we have. "And what can life be worth if the first rehearsal for life is life itself?"...Milan Kundera
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europe1:
...walk alone ..
if they answer not your call, walk alone ...
if they are afraid and cower mutely facing the wall,
open thy mind and speak out alone ...
~ Ghandi...
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europe1:
this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.
"all humans are beautiful"? Really? were Franco, Mussolini and Hitler beautiful people?
that's taking it to an extreme, so how about drug lords who murder? Al Capone? How about terrorists?
OK, still extreme. So how about people who commit fraud? Armed robbery? Drug dealers? Pimps?
Still extreme? you see my point yet? Not all people are beautiful, there are monsters and then people of lesser extremes who are nonetheless horrible and do damage to their society.
the cultural values that have made Japan great are precisely the ones that you now presume to denegrate. It was their sense of honor, dedication, responsibility, hard work, that made Japan great.
so what you're now saying is that disrespect and selfishness are the values you think should be accepted?
your head is full of SHITE
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curtisreed:
This article or new coverage is not speaking about things this individual has done or his apparent crimes on humanity at the winter games, its speaking of his appearance. When i stated that all humans are beautiful I was speaking of appearance. If you think that comparing a Japanese snow boarder who felt like unbuttoning a button and having a couple nose pairings to a pimp, a murderer, or for Gods sake Hitler, you have issues. This is not in any way a reflection on work ethic or the cultural value of Japan. He is in the Olympics representing his discipline because he worked hard to get there. And Im pretty sure a silver medal on the worlds biggest winter sporting stage is considered honorable even in a society that has been so militant and traditional for so many thousands of years. And in further response to the Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco comment, just because 3 apples in a entire orchard are rotten you don't throw away the entire crop, or lose faith that apple can grow into something good and delicious and serve a positive purpose. Again if you do please seek professional help, because you are dentin to have a life void of love, passion, and faith. Also please do a favor to yourself and research "Hip Hop" culture and what its truly about before vomiting out misinformed accusations on the desecration it has caused in inner cites, how about heading up out community outreach, stay in school programs, and of course the avocation of music programs in or schools and communities. Use of profanity usually shows a small vocabulary and lack of knowledge of how to express oneself more clearly. Have a nice day!
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europe1:
OK, so you weren't talking about substance, but just shallow physical appearance. so "all people are beautiful" means all are physically beautiful?
Again, what the f* are you smoking? Is Rush Limbaugh beautiful?
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eden49
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oh, Europe, I loved your post...bravo...
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JeremyTG77:
Remember, nothing can grow without change. You shouldn't be offended, they're not out to get you.
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JeremyTG77:
Shouldn't we be more offended by the bread-and-circuses aspect of our international obsession with the Olympics?
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I took a look at this kid before I even read the article and knew right away that some racist people in the Japanese political hierarchy would have a problem with his dreads.
Do your thing kid. Freak out. You're only young once.
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keithponder:
You really don't understand Japanese culture.
To us Americans, it would be like a US Olympian showing up in nothing but a G-string or something outrageous like that.
It has nothing to do with racism.
The Japanese are criticizing him because looked unprofessional while representing them because his clothes were unkempt.
He would have gotten the same criticism with or without the dreads. - 1 year ago
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With the angst of youth, snowboarding was born. From Japan to Jamaica the young will always find their own voice. I would not be caught dead in a pair of pants below my ass or a rainbow spiked Mohawk. But I got a big kick out of the look on Dad's face when I came home from school with hair over my shoulders. The Japanese would have gotten over themselves soon enough if he had brought home the gold last night. And so we will get over Shaun White's coach getting a little exuberant on his last run. Shaun White has to have anti-gravity genes. He can actually fly.
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I dunno. I've always liked the way he carries himself on a snowboard. Despite some unfortunate spills, I think he did his country proud. While dress is important, I think the most important aspect of representation would be sportsmanship, effort, and respect for one's competitors.
Of course, my opinion doesn't matter, and neither does this story. It'll blow over in about a week.
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I'm all for individual expression, but if you're going to a major event as a representative of your country, you should at least tuck your shirt in and straighten your tie. Sure, snowboarding isn't a team sport, but he's not representing snowboarding, he's not representing himself, he's representing Japan. To me, the fact that he's being all rebellious and crap is just juvenile. You can be an individual on your own time, but if you're the face of your country, pull your fucking pants up. Save your individual expression for when it really matters.
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saidemily:
"he's representing Japan"
Puleeeese.
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...come Down Under, Kokubo...we love your style...
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Oops I read that.
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Wow why is this story number 1?
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If he's gonna dress like that, he should at least win a medal.
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I think the U.S. team can pick him up.
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McCainiac:
ha ha thats funny. They should.
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How many americans, british, germans, etc were parading around with their asses hanging out of their national uniforms? None. It isn't done. As somebody who has competed internationally, I know you dress as a representative of your country, not as an individual person. You can be an individual in your own bloody time.
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gringoninjo:
Exactly.
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big deal... he decided to loosen up :D the japanese are a little too strict...
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I could give a fuck one way or the other.
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What if he had taken an emo persona or goth persona, why is it the "hip hop" image is so distasteful to the Japanese? Seems that when things are associated with Black American popular culture it's seen as "less than" or "degenerate" by many people and other ethnicities. I guess he should have stood in line for that bowl haircut like everyone else and saved face.
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vellocet:
Good grief, it doesn't have anything to do with hip-hop or Black culture.
Hip-hop is actually really popular in Japan. And, Black people aren't looked down on in Japan, they're just foreigners like every other foreigner.
They're mad at him because he looked unprofessional- that's it. - 1 year ago
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...once again, this joint pees me off...OH WHAT A FEELING...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...NOT...
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ooohhhhhh god say it aint soooo, he wanted to look like an individual! It's HIS skill that got him into the olympics not his TEAM who cares if he wanted to add a personal twist to his uniform... the obvious point is, the mens half-pipe isn't a team sport no one helped him in it, individuality should be encouraged in this section. He can represent his country by showing his skill... not by making sure his tie is tied right shirt all buttoned up and pants hiked up.
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Norther00:
WORD!!!! Somebody gets this. Thank you
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Norther00:
I agree, it shouldn't matter what the hell he's wearing or how he's wearing it, his skill is whats important. Individuality is what makes a person who they are and should ALWAYS be encouraged!!
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That's the team's prerogative. If he was told to dress in a certain manner to represent his country, then he should do so.
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Weeeeeelll............ Is he part of a TEAM, or is he an individual? I'm pretty traditional, and I feel that if you're part of a team you should LOOK like part of the team. If, OTOH, it's just every man for himself, then, by all means stand apart and call attention to yourself. Looking like a team is one way to show solidarity as a team.
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2helenahandbasket:
There is no team in Snowboarding...Your missing the point.
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2helenahandbasket:
American culture stresses individuality AND teamwork. The Japanese are only interested in the "appearance" of a team, because in their culture individuality is suppressed.
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vellocet:
Bravo. And long may it wave (I hope, or shoot me now)
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Well if it makes everyone feel better. He busted his face open on the last landing on his second to last run. GO USA.
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Mikeysfake1:
Your kidding me right... Did you really read back what you just wrote.
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Fourfingaz
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This is complete bullshit!!!!! This is why Snowboarding should of never been in the stupid ass Olympics in the first place. We dont follow stupid ass rules of these politically correct ass clowns. We dont give a shit what they think about snowboarders appearances. Snowboarding was never meant for this. All the world is gonna do is judge judge judge. OMG he is acting like An Individual. HOW DARE HE!!!!!!
Everybody loves snowboarding now. This shit makes me wanna puke. Where was everyone when we were getting arrested just trying to ride. Where were these people when we had to fight to actually ride an actual resort. I hope Snowboarders keep pissing people off so they will stop Snowboarding in the Olympics and it can go back to the world it belongs. Snowboarding is not A discipline of Skiing. - 1 year ago
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Fourfingaz
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nursediesel
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Did he actually violate his countries uniform policy? If he did then so be it.
If not, and he tweaked it to his own style (which is snowboarding style) then he was living in the feel of his sport! Too bad he didn't go medal.
One thing he did do is create publicity for the Olympics, Japan's team, snowboarding and hair stylists..... Got more people interested in something one works to get to instead of just Hollywood hype!
You go Kazuhiro! - 1 year ago
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nursediesel
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Kylsport
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Unfortunate for him, his falls he had the last couple of day should be more of a concern to him that what his appearance was.
- 1 year ago
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Kylsport
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jahbini
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Happens all the time: Some athlete or politician offends the US media each and every week.
Stuff it. Just let these guys do what they do best and let the small stuff go. Quite frankly, I could care less about a golfer with a sex obsession or a public figure that smokes pot after winning Olympic Gold.
Crap, I got my own obsessions to worry about. Suck it up and walk it off.
- 1 year ago
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jahbini
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ahiguy
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jahbini:
That's it, you tell'em jahbini. . . Btw, where have you been? I've not seen much of you here until just recently
- 1 year ago
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ahiguy
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jahbini
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ahiguy:
Well, nursediesel had me in chains in the closet. It was fun, but ...
- 1 year ago
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jahbini
