Killer Whale To Not Be Put Down
source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7041192.ece
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Dawn did not "drown". She was killed by a very intelligent tortured animal who had had enough or innocently has no concept of what its actions mean to us. Ocean animal Theme parks are horrible hideous places where man kind exhibits grossly its insensitivity and ignorance. Putting one of these great, for crying out loud, OCEAN inhabiting creatures in one these tanks, with nothing but hard white walls to perceive (something they have no understanding of in nature, unlike us, I don't care how much we pat our selves in the back for making them larger than the ones before) is the equivalent of keeping a beta-fish in a cup of water or keeping a person in a small room for years. After this tragic event, and because of Dawn's fate, we ought to feel ashamed and head this alarming call by raising our level ofconsciousness and appreciation for life on our planet desperately. Instead of questioning whether this animal out to be put down or not, we should be making the effort of at least saying that man kind is not stubbornly stupid by releasing all whales and dolphins back to the sea; the only place where they live happily and healthy (since they too know health of mind); if we want to keep believing that we are what we seem to believe we are by the way we portray ourselves on fashion billboards and carcommercials . I do feel for the betrayal and fear Dawn must have felt during her last moments. But we betray these sublime creatures much more than we realize and are far from understanding what must be really going on in their minds. Theme Parks should become Centers for rescue and healing of wild animals since more that often very likely run into trouble because of problems that WE bring to their environment. I would suggest that the next time one of these "wild animal park" owners goes to a zoo or aquarium, they look through the eyes of a seal or a large feline and through their bars or deceitful confinements right back at them selves and see what they really are doing to a beautiful life.
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Considering that I train and breed security dogs I understand the law quite well when it comes to someone breaking into your home. If your dog kills that person when no physical threat has been made to your person you will be prosecuted. I agree 100% that the man was a complete idiot for entering the tank. Ultimately the park is at fault for not having efficient security. But if the ppl like all of u did not glorify and make the whale out to be something that it is not more ppl would know and understand to not go near them. Would u climb into the lions den? No, because everyone know that lions are dangerous. Orcas are dangerous. They are not cuddly and cute and lovable Free Willy like animals. They will kill you. Stop making excuses for these ppl to keep locking up wild animals. They need to be left alone in the wild without intervention from ppl even if they claim they are trying to reverse the effects of human life on them. It is a lie. They are only keeping and breeding them for profit. If there was no profit there would be no product and eventually they will be extinct. It is a shame but species become extinct everyday. It is the circle of life.
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apparently there are far too many ppl who value dollar signs over human life. The whale should have never been in captivity. Anyone who says it is too save the species is full of crap. Survival of the fittest. What sort of life is the whale having? I would assume that those ppl also support puppy mills. It's the same thing. An animal confined to an area far too small for it for the purpose of reproducing. Ok animal lovers... you are crying foul play over others saying it should be put down, however I don't see you pulling out your signs at your local shelter. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, pigs and every other kind of animal are killed everyday in shelters. I am a dog trainer and breeder. Dogs are animals too. They are killed in shelters everyday for being dogs. If they bark at another dog they are deemed unadoptable and killed. This is disgusting to me. Watch how an orca kills an animal in the wild. They beat it and drown it. Just as this whale did to all 3 ppl it killed. This animal should not be in the hands of ppl. This story is all about the money involved. There is no heart or emotion in the decision to keep it and put it back in shows. They can guarantee that it will kill again within the next 10 years. Will you be there to comfort that mother when she learns her child was killed by an animal that has killed 3 times before? Whatever happened to prevention?? Prevent the animal from causing harm.. Sorry to say the obvious but a whale is first a wild species. No matter how much training u do it will always be wild. And they are breeding the least domesticated whale too!! In my business the dog that has a bad temperment is neutered! Not bred! They are not being responsible and they can not be responsible with him. Unfortunately I must say that the only logical thing to do is to put him down but they obviously won't be doing that.
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sierra925:
"3 people it killed" is a bit of a stretch: 1st and 3rd were documented, but the 2nd involved someone (a homeless man?) who stayed in the park after it closed and jumped in the tank (apparently wanting to 'share the love' he felt for the orca,.
Dunno about you, but some idiot stranger lets himself into MY home unannounced, I'd say protecting from a nut-case is justifiable homicide, self-defense! Im not sure where humans get off, thinking we can do whatever we want to other species, with our 'we're the dominant species on the planet' justification. Don't the animals KNOW that, LOL?
Once again, the Disneyesque view of animals and wild life results in more agro and harm than a respectful appreciation to be had from afar....
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QuinlanT:
Except orcas are technically not classified as an 'endangered species' (yet). Humans are under-achievers, and getting a bit lazy, I'd say: we just haven't inflicted enough human interference yet. ;)
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QuinlanT:
Yeah, we're quibbling at this point and you probably already know this, but orcas are not considered an INTERNATIONALLY endangered species; the IUCN lists the species as 'data deficient', at this point.
In the U.S., there are two groups located off the West Coast, and one has been added to the Federal Endangered Species list.
But the orca in this thread was not a member of this group (I believe he was captured off Iceland?)
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QuinlanT:
Then you'll be glad to know the group which conducts the census for the NMFS reports endangered Southern resident orca population in the Pacific Northwest is growing, primarily due to salmon recovery on the Columbia:
http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2010/01/pacific_northwests_endan...
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this is the best news I've heard all day
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Expert says set him free - 2 years ago
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ha, suck on that lucretia_gross
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I agree.
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Wow, the poster for this story has no idea what s/he is talking about. Set free or put down? This person clearly has no idea about animal psychology. We put him in the tank and then we wonder why he gets mad one day? How about we stop trapping them in giant bathtubs when they are supposed to have an entire ocean at their disposal? Let's stop being surprised when wild animals act like wild animals, but let us also stop punishing them for not "acting right"!
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LOL, I never get tied of this clip.
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ianbrownnation:
Holy sardines, that's hilarious! XD
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CalPal:
Holy Manta Ray Repellent! Those prop guys had their own special genius. :D
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animalia_libero:
it, is an animal.
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By applying a similar perverse logic as the topic poster:
I believe that as football (aka soccer) players are bred and trained like highly strung race horses prone to multiple injuries, instead of the "magic sponge" they should be put out of their and their fans misery by being shot thus saving the clubs millions ... but that's another story.
The "killer whale" also known as an orca - which includes dolphin species - should be rehabilitated at Seaworld's expense then set free.
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EclecticBadger:
The thing about this story is that Sea World knew that this whale had aggression issues. He was donated by a Canadian park because he was too aggressive with their trainers. The Canadians donated or traded or something this whale with Sea World to ONLY be used as a breeder, not as an animal attraction. Everyone knew his history and everyone ignored it. This was the stupidity and carelessness of humans...once again...and not the fault of the beast.
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Lucretia_Gross:
I agree with all of this and what you said was the thing about this story that didn't make sense to me. The whale was already responsible for the deaths of two people but Sea World decided to get and make it an attraction? What part of that sounds like a good idea? I understand that they have to be handled at some point to ensure that they're healthy and taken care of but to put them in an environment like that, that would seen to agitate it more than anything else is incredibly stupid. I'd imagine that an animal would show signs of aggression that would cause alarm more than once after killing someone. Hell, wild animals tend to act aggressively, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
I'm sorry that someone was killed in order for Sea World to realize the decision they made was a horrible one, I'm not a fan of animals but it doesn't seem right to put it down for what happened. Nor does it seem like a good idea to take it out of captivity. I'm going to assume its been in an enclosure its entire life, so what's it going to do, other than die, when its put in the wild? (Not to say those were your suggestions, I'm just saying.) At this point, it seems like the best thing to do would be to use it as a breeder as it was originally intended and hope that this doesn't happen again.
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We could have a current vote, everyone just put in one comment, either "Free it" or "Kill it"
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It is a "killer" whale. I think it would probably do better than any other domesticated animal when released into the wild. It is all about the money here. It has nothing to do with safety of handlers or what is best for the whale. It is a matter of exploitation for profit, plain and simple. Don't let them fool you with any of the other bull shit talking points.
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Let it go. There's no point in killing it.
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Dogs and horses do not generate millions in revenue, you don't shoot the goose that lays the golden egg.
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observer2121:
its sad but thats the truth
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There are ways you can adapt it back to the ocean guys!
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They could be told to make huge, key-shaped viewing tanks, that are open to the sea. They keep feeding and requiring the whales do flips and rolls for fish - but the whales are free to leave if they want.
See if they stay around.
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Alexandretamara:
Yeah, they tried that with the "Free Willy" star Keiki, even configuring a C-17 military aircraft to transport him from Mexico to Iceland. In his case, after months of rehabilitation, Keiki tried to join up with a pack of orcas, but it's a bit like trying to return to the old neighborhood after having been away from it for 30 years (thinking you can find your old school friends, etc. Not going to happen). The Orca is severely handicapped by a lack of development of orca social skills, etc.
Seems that Keiki enjoyed the company of humans (trainers), and died a year later in a harbor pen.
It's a bit like a child: you can take a healthy functional newborn and have it raised by wolves or wild animals, devoid of contact with it's own species. After awhile, it's critical period for the development of certain psychological and cognitive skills is past the point of change, and it can "no longer learn new tricks".
There are MANY documented cases of feral children who were separated by their parents when young, and adopted by wild animals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child#Documented_.2F_alleged_cases
Even if 'rescued', the psychological damage is often insurmountable. Of those that DO survive and manage to learn a few social skills, these ones often grow up to lead pedestrian lives, registering as Republicans. :)
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You let it free, it'll probably die. You put it down, it will die. You let it live, there's a possibility it will kill again. Tough call, when all scenarios have someone dying.
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hahahaha....if u let it free it'll die?....then, in the whale's conscience, that's the proper death
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The Orca Belongs in it's natural habitat...where it has freedom. Freedom from restriction, and arbitrary control. Freedom to roam the vast oceans uncontrolled. Nature has intended for them to be free...these creatures do not belong at Sea World! They are complex with a brain five times the size of a human brain, with an exceptional capacity of memory. They are social beings that live in matriarchal clusters. These Orcas should not be on display performing as entertainers like an Elvis daily over and over again ... They train them through food deprivation...One does not have to be an expert on whales to know whales in captivity are always unhappy whales. Do they make prozac for whales? I hate these parks! They probably are not putting the Orca to sleep because of the amount of money the whale can bring in and how much it's worth !!!! I think Sea World has 2000 people coming in per day...they are worked to death ...and when they die they find the next Whale.
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Ahh, killer whales are awesome creatures. I can understand why they wouldn't want to kill it considering how flippin' huge it is, it wouldn't be too good for business if they had a few tons of rotting whale meat just lying around (is it legal to eat whale meat?), add the fact that he's so valuable and it's not too hard to get. I'm surprised they whale didn't eat her though, he's obviously got authority issues and like someone said earlier, they are called killer whales for a reason, they're (arguably) the best hunters in the ocean, they've even been known to eat shark on occasion. I do hope that they don't use him for performances anymore though, considering his track record.
I'd've eaten her... - 2 years ago
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Yeah, sell it to the Japanese!
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Don't fuck with killer whales.
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She was teasing the whale
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I just scare of them and that's what i know!!!!!
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Problem is it's NOT a dog or horse; it's a rare, bordering-on-endangered marine mammal.
It's virtually guaranteed that Sea World policy will be changed for trainers to wear a swim cap (or wear their hair closely-cropped) if they have long hair; it's not clear if the pony tail was interpreted as a toy for the orca to play with, but seems a no-brainer to eliminate pony tails.
At any rate, there are 48 orcas in captivity worldwide; half are found in the U.S. at places like Sea World. As a result of limits disallowing the capture of these animals, the value of a breeding orca like this male has risen: he's valued at $2 mil.
Being one of the largest in captivity, it may have been a disadvantage for him; apparently younger smaller orcas were able to pick on him, and he wasn't able to evade or retaliate. Hence why they kept him in solitary confinement.
As Marisaed says, ask any wildlife biologist about the track record of releasing animals raised in captivity (or even WILD animals far removed from their natural habitat), and they'll tell you the odds of survival are NOT good: it's virtually a death sentence (a bit like releasing a tiny domesticated chihuahua who's always lived a protected life 'free' on the shoulder of a freeway).
So sorry, this ain't "Free Willy", and there's no easy "Hollywood wraps it all up in a 2 hour movie" answer here.
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I don't know - a lot of 'experts' just repeat a repeatedly repeated song. I have found few, in this life, really are the expert. Lots of people repeating what they heard somewhere - few who are the real McCoy.
Maybe setting it free would be fine. Fine and free.
There are only two paths, free or actively keep it in it's echo chamber.
People go crazy in confinement - animals do too.It's definitely easiest to dismiss it. Look the other way.
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QuinlanT:
And how do you "know" what Tilly is thinking? Let me guess: based on your vast experience of working with orcas, you are now a trained "Orca Whisperer"?
You DO know that we live and work around humans all of our lives, but even humans cannot rightly attest to KNOW what another member of our OWN species is thinking (unless they're scamming based on 'cold readings' or the like)?
Guess what I'm saying is, this TIlly incident sure raises many examples of anthropomorphism, where HUMANS project their OWN concepts of motivations onto non-human species.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism
(Enjoy the dogs playing cards: that one always cracks me up!)
Well, good news is Tilly is a senior citizen in orca terms: he's 30, when most male orcas live to be 20ish. So with any luck, he'll die of old age, and we can all disregard the issue of animal ethics (at least, until the next case comes along).
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QuinlanT:
So which definition of 'antropomorphism' do your find preferable? Wiki's definition is pretty standard by conforming with accepted modern-day usage.
Tell you what: you find a definition elsewhere that differs significantly from the one I offered, and then we'll talk (I doubt you CAN find anything significantly different, but ahow me what you can come up with).
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QuinlanT:
Thanks for the interesting article, although it must be pointed out it doesn't offer a different definition of anthropomorphism. :)
Nevertheless, it's an interesting article which points out how pervasive anthropomorphic thinking is: for how do we THINK outside of our own perspective and NOT project humanistic thought and logic into the mix? Answer: we can't. All thinking of humans is automatically humanistic, by definition.
However, the article reminds us that anthropomorphistic views are not to be dismissed out of hand, just like they shouldn't automatically be accepted: the warning is just that, a warning to remember how we can't see things aside from our own perspective, being trapped in out OWN skin.
My point is that there's been a lot of assumptions made about Tilly being angry at being confined, lashing out, etc. I saw the footage right before the attack, and while I'm no orca expert, I didn't see any OBVIOUS examples of aggression or anger. Eating fish one second, and apparently dragging the trainer about like a rag doll the next.
Here's a novel thought: my 3 lb chihuahua sleeps right next to me, which is analogous to me sleeping next to a bus! Could it be that the orca is more likely to accidentally injure smaller life-forms, simply because it IS such a large, massive animal? Does it grasp human physiology enough to know that humans cannot stay underwater (without wearing breathing apparatus)? I doubt it.
Sorry, but there's just too many unknowns to claim "knowing motives" of a member of our own species, much less knowing what motives another species possesses. We can rule out hunger: they don't eat people!
Fact is, many HUMANS cannot even explain why THEY do what they do: that's what the whole field of psychoanalysis attempts to explain (and rather unsuccessfully, when it comes to predicting future criminal behavior).
Bottom line: we've stopped capturing wild orcas in the 1970's, and the only ones in captivity in the future will be those borne into captivity.
PS killing it? Not a snowball's chance in hell. For one, last I checked, animals in America are considered private property, and killing a person's animal requires a threat to the GENERAL PUBLIC, i.e. a loose dog that bites. Sorry, but a trainer who voluntarily climbs into a tank after signing away her right to sue, and who understood the heightened risk to her person, doesn't apply. There's no grounds for anyone demanding the government's duty to interfere to protect the public, AFAIK.
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Sure, a harbor pen is a possibility, if Tilly's in good enough condition to survive the stress (physical and psychological) associated with transport. Tilly is, after all, an orcan 'senior citizen', and while sending Gramps off to Bermuda for retirement seems like a good idea, uprooting someone from their current social situation to subject them to the inevitable stressors associated with change can back-fire.
I'm not sure why people assume orcas are upset at being forced to 'perform': under the circumstances, they're no doubt more upset about NOT being able to perform or be around others; no doubt a diversion, an opportunity to get rewarded. Being unable to engage in their routine is just as torturous as being locked in solitary confinement.
Just saying, there's a lot to consider here, and it'll involve weighing the opinions of his vets, trainers, etc. Unless public pressure mounts, I dare say Sea World would let him live out his natural (unnatural?) life, right where he is...
As far as ending orca entertainment, I wouldn't hold my breath: I suspect Sea World is more committed to the attempts to educate the public about these animals, esp. when it's upon which their entire business model is built.
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well...they were keeping an orca aka killer whale in captivity....read the name KILLER whale....get it? its not the animals fault for acting like an animal. I know this sounds rude but its the truth. I do think they should release it into the wild like they should have been in the first place.
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It's called a "Killer Whale" for a reason
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Why would you put down a wild animal trapped in an unnatural habitat?
Don't mess with wild animals and they won't mess with you.
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They could have a little group meeting. The head, of course, is also the person who decides about employment.
After some serious consternation and terse faces, they pop up and say, "Ok, let's kill the whale!"
Two or three pick out the low person on a totum pole and provide a big hypodermic needle - filled with a greenish syrup.
"Here, go kill the whale"
"Ok, I'll go kill the whale" turning toward the big tank, syringe in hand, the whale swimming back and forth.
The thought process goes, "ok, I'll just go up to it, stick it and squirt. That probably should do it (?)"
From down the hall, the superiors are heard to say, "Go on - kill the whale" before their noisy exit out the night doors.
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the trainer knew the dangers of working with a wild animal, and accepted it. the orca shouldnt be put down for acting as animals do, aggressively when threatened. and it cant be released because it would be a death sentence as it would not know how to hunt or survive in the wild. these are the inherent problems of keeping animals in captivity; we now have become responsible for them good or bad.
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NoJustiCeNoPeaCe:
I agree with most of what you wrote...but he CAN survive in the wild. He's equipped, and they're smart. The torture of being held in that bathtub for decades, his own voice (and that of others) bouncing off the walls all the time, is what drove him to the edge. So there is just one sane option: Set him free.
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It wasn't the whale's fault what happend. It wass that god forsaken sea world and that dumb ass trainer.
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This proves my point: they are going to have to start training and using Mako sharks to do shows in order to avoid future incidents.
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Or they could sew their mouth shut.
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word. it's like blaming that tiger that killed those idiot teenagers that were shooting it with a slingshot.
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It should be set free. What is the writer above thinking? That killing will teach it a lesson?
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option A) treat it like any other wild animal that humans have "tamed" that has killed a human...kill the animal. or option B)set it loose in the ocean, where it will die anyways because it won't be accepted back into any pods, where it will die slowly of starvation...wow, so humanitarian of you
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It won't die. They already said it was horny. No likely paramours will toss away a perfectly horny new friend. It just isn't done.
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Killer Whale kills... no way, really? Are they serious? I can't believe it! Reminds me of the time when that man eating tiger ate that... man.
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nice incoherent puffery there melvin.
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you told him he is on liberal losing CURRENT, but are you not here too buddy? oops...you must have forgotten...anyway, if you want to shoot something go shoot deers or something....dont blame an animal for acting like one. Release it into the wild, like a wild animal. some more common sense for you...
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roryd00d:
Unfortunately, there's virtually no chance he would survive in the wild after a life of captivity.
- 2 years ago
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BUNK! Set it fee. Set the other ones free - too.
Set em all free. I volunteer to help. -You coming?
- 2 years ago
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Actually, it wasn't born in captivity. He was taken from the wild. He has a good chance of surving.
- 2 years ago
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Numbz
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Numbz:
In which case, I would be entirely in favor of that.
- 2 years ago
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John_Taylor
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You know that HOW? It's an orca. They hunt and eat what is found there in the wild. They're VERY intelligent, and fully equipped. He'll do fine... especially since he'd finally be free of the VERY stressful situation of being locked up in an echo-chamber bathtub for so many years. SET HIM FREE!
- 2 years ago
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John_Taylor:
I really hope you're right. I certainly don't agree with the conditions he's kept in now. I'd love to see him freed ( on the condition, of course, that he would survive). I'd love it even more whales weren't kept in captivity in the first place. There's no reason for it.
- 2 years ago
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The echo chamber comparison is good.
Imagine being forced to cavort for your food - when your sonar / hearing is driving you nuts.
The navy is going around the world forcing whales and dolphins out of the water. Like a bull horn blaring ear-splitting static.These theme parks are running a literal circus.
Everything's ok, when nobody cares.
It should be disallowed. - 2 years ago
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roryd00d
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yeah, good point.
- 2 years ago
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well its kinda big to kill i would think. i don't think its the whale's falut anyway. the people know it has had a history with another trainer and one dumb guy. And on top of that its in the name "KILLERWHALE"! duh!
- 2 years ago
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CalPal
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Well, as long as people are ignorant enough to find this entertaining, this won't stop. Ever.
- 2 years ago
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CalPal
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Logos51891
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What did they expect?! This thing fucking EATS great white sharks in the wild. When you jump into a tank with that thing it's like jumping from oncoming traffic into an oncoming freight train.
- 2 years ago
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EmperorThan
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DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!!! Every time my favorite animal, Tiger, kills someone they shoot it on site. Doesn't matter how rare Tigers are in the wild, how rare the subspecies may be. "He's a man-eater. He has a taste for human meat now. We have to kill him." "BULLSHIT!" -Penn Jillette
This killer whale obviously has a taste for human meat too, after killing three people in 20 years.
- 2 years ago
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EmperorThan:
Didn't eat any of them... and at least one died from the cold water, was found draped over the orca's back.
- 2 years ago
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ichigo113
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How about let's not put wild whales into tiny habitats where they can't live a decent life and we sell our ability to train them to do sill tricks to other people?
- 2 years ago
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ichigo113:
So what do you propose we do with the killer whales already in captivity? I seem to recall when they tried to release the Free Willy whale into the wild it swam around confused and kept coming back to the spot where they released it until it died.
- 2 years ago
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EmperorThan:
We shouldn't have taken them out in the first place. Why are you starting an agrument with me? I haven't said anything offensive, there is no need to rebuttle with an issue I didnt even bring up (about the whales already in captivity). I'm saying we should not take anymore out of the wild an abuse the animal.
- 2 years ago
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sidewayssquare
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gimme a gun ill flex a finger for that.
sorry, i had to wipe the smile off of them PETA freaks
- 2 years ago
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sidewayssquare:
No one is smiling. It's a sad situation on both accounts. The whale shouldn't have been in captivity and the woman shouldn't have died. The worst that could have possibly happened in that situation did.
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