Bank of America to stop debit card overdrafts
source: http://Bankrate.com
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Rules set by the Federal Reserve that will ban banks from charging such fees, without first getting permission from the customer, are set to take effect July 1.
But Bank of America is going a step further than the regulations require. It will simply no longer allow debit card purchases to go through if there isn't enough money in the account.
For ATM transactions, customers who try to withdraw more than their balance will have to agree to pay a $35 overdraft fee before they can get the money.
"The majority of our customers who overdraw their account do so with everyday debit purchases," said Susan Faulkner, senior vice president of consumer banking for Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America. "They're doing this unknowingly, because they aren't aware that they are about to overdraft."
Since the bank doesn't have the ability to notify the customer when they're at the register and give them the chance to agree to a fee, it will simply reject such transactions.
Consumers have demonstrated a willingness to pay overdrafts for covering the mortgage and the car payment, said Greg McBride, who follows the banking industry for Bankrate.com. "But not if it's things like covering a latte and a scone."
The bank's new policy will kick in on June 19 for new accounts, and in early August for existing accounts. It will replace the bank's current terms, which allow overdrafts to go through but only charge a fee if the deficit is greater than $10.
Bank of America likely won't be the last to make the change. That's because while the new rules will save consumers from surprising dings on their accounts, they will also cut deeply into the more than $1.77 billion annual revenue overdraft fees generate for the banking industry.
Faulkner would not estimate how much such fees pulled in for Bank of America in the past.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. estimates about 41 percent of that total is from point-of-sale debit transactions. About 8 percent was from ATM transactions. The rest were from bad checks and online bill payments, which are not addressed in the regulation.
What's more, 93 percent of overdraft fees are generated by just 14 percent of customers.
Because most of the fees were paid by what Robert Meara, a banking analyst with the consultant Celent, called "serial overdrafters," the rules may not save the average consumer much money. In fact, because banks will look to make up that lost revenue, it may actually cost most individuals more.
"What this may do really is produce the unintended consequence of creating the demise of free checking," said Meara. Banks jumped into free checking in the last decade because of competition, but at the same time started allowing overdrafts that generated huge sums. If they can't charge those fees, it's likely they won't offer the free products anymore either.
Or, he suggested, consumers might start seeing deals advertised where free checking kicks in after a certain number of transactions, or if a customer has several accounts linked together.
"I think banks will use this as an opportunity to be creative and differentiate themselves in ways that was really hard to do when everybody had a free checking account," Meara said. "There's a way this can be a win-win for everybody, but in the short term I think it's going to be challenging for banks to make up for that lost revenue."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/ap_on_bi_ge/us_overdraft_fees_bank_of_americ...
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curtisreed
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BoA SUCKs, people.
get ready to pay increased fees and if you have a credit card, you'll never see those love 8% rates of the past.
BoA is the same company that used to give credit to undocumented immigrants...and then started raising the interest rates on their good customers to cover their losses.
I don't trust those sorry bastards, the large print giveth, but the small print taketh away!
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curtisreed
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diode
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curtisreed:
BoA doesn't suck as much as you think, people just suck with their money and credit. banks wouldn't make money if people didn't suck with it. especially chase or american express.
go to a credit union, thats where its at, and where i keep my money.
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diode
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diode
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i've been saying this for YEARS. freaking finally.
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diode
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mariachiquita
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Yeah super great. So the 86% of people who know how to balance their checkbooks and know not to spend more than they have, will now have to pay for checking so that the bank can babysit the other 14% who don't know when they ran out out money. These 14% are repeat offenders, so they obviously don't seem to mind the overdraft, or else they may check a bank statement once in a while or keep track of their transcations. It's not that hard. I've never bounced a check in my life.
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mariachiquita
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Shane_Snodgrass
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mariachiquita:
I have overdrafted because of things I couldn't control and the banks refuse to refund them unless it's a bank error. I'm so happy this is finally happening and I know I won't have to pay for checking as long as I have direct deposit. HAHA. time for you to pay up bitch.
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Shane_Snodgrass
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mariachiquita
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Shane_Snodgrass:
Oh, of course it's not your fault that you bounce you checks! You are such a victim! Learn to balance a checkbook, why don't you? I find it funny that the fact that I can keep track of my finances upsets you so much. You should learn to keep track your finances. Wishing you many happy embarrassing declines at the check out!
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mariachiquita
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quanta
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What a bunch of bull, I hate boa
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quanta
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arosso
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Lovely so I want all my money back I put into this hellhole because I wasn't getting those paychecks on time before clearing out my account. Fucking crooks.
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arosso
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Mark701
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"Banks jumped into free checking in the last decade because of competition, but at the same time started allowing overdrafts that generated huge sums. If they can't charge those fees, it's likely they won't offer the free products anymore either."
The fact is that many if not most people are moving away from check writing. I pay 90% of my bills online.
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Mark701
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Elligirl
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Mark701:
I have a free chequing "and more" account at my local credit union. When I make a debit transaction that takes me beyond my limit, the ATM or point of sale device says "INSUFFICIENT FUNDS." That's it. There's no charge. There IS a charge for bouncing a cheque, though.
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Elligirl
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Mark701
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These policies should have been instituted when someone dreamed up debit cards. What is the big deal about notifying people during a transaction that there isn't enough money in their account to cover the withdrawl? And if they choose to overdraft it will cost them $35? This isn't rocket science. Then again, the banks wouldn't be able to make billions off the poor, the ignorant and those will little self control.
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Mark701
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rknowlton91
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this isn't great... this is admitting that now the majority of Americans are unable to balance their own check book and keep honest finances. And that people waste so much money from day to day that they rarely even have any money.
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rknowlton91
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ryan8566
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but the new rules still allow people to 'opt in' for the over draft fee. there are some people (me!) who are not opposed to paying the fee at the end of the month, just to be able to eat.
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ryan8566
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ecola
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what about making it easier for consumer and lower the overdraft fee? to $10 or $5.
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ecola
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EdJoyProductions
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ecola:
I was thinking more like 99 cents per overdraft. That way they would probably make more money from people that wouldn't mind a dollar fee and might spend more. But, they need to be evil, greedy thieving bastards instead.
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EdJoyProductions
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Elligirl
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Good! The bank should have done this from the start. If you don't have the money, then you can't pull it out of thin air. And there shouldn't be a $35 fee to realize you have no money left!
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Elligirl
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denyseck
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well...great,now that I have spent at least $Iooo on those...-=)...anyway,it was time for that,paying $35 for $.99 overdraft it's literally stealing,nothing else.
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denyseck
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Nyx
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I've had a BofA account for years and I didn't even know you could go to an ATM and take out more than you have. Why is that even allowed? I do agree that you shouldn't be charged the same thing on overdrafts if you're over by $100 or $0.01.
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Nyx
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imadvanced
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Good news! The reporter says that "93 percent of overdraft fees are generated by just 14 percent of customers" and the banking analyst says "the rules may not save the average consumer much money. In fact, because banks will look to make up that lost revenue, it may actually cost most individuals more." I'm not sure how true that is. If these 14% run up 93% of the fees, how much of these fees do the banks actually collect, especially since those 14% didn't have money in their account to begin with and possibly aren't smart enough to stop over-drafting.
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imadvanced
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GreenNewEarth
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Doesn't this seem logical? No $$$ in the account can't make a withdrawl... Oh that's right, when you overdraw they get to charge you ridiculous amounts of money.... B of A "Thank for no longer being crooks"
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GreenNewEarth
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UWAZell
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GreenNewEarth:
I wouldn't call BoA 'crooks' because they've been charging people for not being responsible. Yes, to charge someone $35.00 for going .01, or even $5. over their limit is egregious, so long as it's a one off occurrence. However, as eluded to, to charge people who either [a] constantly over draft, or [b] do so in a big way is justified.
That said, when I lived in America I over drafted once on my account because I forgot about a big ticket purchase. Without realising my mistake I went into the bank and spoke to a rep, politely of course, who noticed the difference between my leger and their records, and removed the charge because I've never OD'ed before and kept records of my transactions... which he claimed he hadn't seen in quite sometime.
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UWAZell
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veronaaa
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woooo
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veronaaa
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RaceBannon
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so the banks are doing what they used to do 20 years ago? Bittersweet, I guess...
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RaceBannon
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wayseeker
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My credit union pays over drafts up to $400. I hate the big banks as much as anyone else but why do people bitch about fees when they shouldn't be overdrawing their account in the first place?
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wayseeker
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imunbalanced
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I have been waiting for this to become standard for all banks as I heard about these regulation changes a while back. In college, many times I would unknowingly go over and end up with ridiculous ODF from WF. It hurt me so much as I couldn't work much while going to school full time.
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imunbalanced
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crob80227
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Wouldn't it be great if banks charged the same rate of return on SAVINGS accounts as they do on credit?
How much more would all of us be sinking into savings if it earning 30 percent interest per year?
Maybe that should be a new law: banks can charge whatever interest rate they want on credit accounts....but they must (by law!) charge the exact same rate of interest for money in savings accounts! That would be better than what it is now which seems to be between ZERO or .00000002 interest per year.
I have a feeling that if such a law were passed we'd never again see credit interests rates rise above 5 percent.
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crob80227
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khamburger
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Banks take deposits at 2% or less and then lend out at least ten times as much money at 5-20% with fractional reserve banking. And, even then they have to have such huge fees to make any money?
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khamburger
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snarly
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when I opened my checking account at the local credit union, they told me they dont charge overdraft fees if I get the amount paid within 5 buisness days. And that is why credit unions, which are for service, not for profit, are infintely better that banks.
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snarly
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BrittanyL
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YAY!! The world seems a bit brighter now.
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BrittanyL
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crob80227
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PayPal.
The creators of PayPal are working around the clock on getting PayPal to be accepted everywhere just like Visa and Debit cards.
The genius of PayPal is that it completely does an end-run around the banks. Note in the article that the asshole banks started claiming that no more overdrafts meant that no more free checking. I say, "Fine!" We'll all just switch over to PayPal which basically acts like a "bank" for all practical purposes but doesn't engage in the same bullshit "fee" schemes that the banks have fallen in love with.
Technology is truly driving the revolution. More and more technology is offering people alternatives that simply didn't exist before. Bank of America claims it can't function without charging massive fees for every single transaction. I say let it fail completely and be replaced completely by a leaner, smarter system such as PayPal or some other startup.
I think the banks are just like the music industry and the print media industry -- they still think they are in control. iTunes, MP3's and Napster destroyed the old-school music industry and empowered consumers. The Internet killed the old-school newspapers and gave the consumers more choices at a cheaper price. The exact same thing is going to happen to the old-school banks and credit card agencies whose entire business model is based on transaction fees at 40 percent interest rates.
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crob80227
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crob80227
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crob80227:
It's entirely possible that within 10 years traditional banks will be replaced by electronic versions...just like iTunes pretty much replaced brick and mortar music stores.
I think that would be a major improvement. Instead of greedy CEO's trying to wring every last penny out of customers (and doing bizzare credit derivitive swaps) a new business model will emerge.
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crob80227
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2helenahandbasket
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Wow. Finally some good news for the consumer.
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2helenahandbasket
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Nephwrack
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wells fargo is doing that too
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Nephwrack
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Eternalposer
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Its about damn time, I tried asking my bank to do this when i first got a debit card and it was a no go.
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Eternalposer
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Darevalo
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i never understood why this didnt happen in the first god damn place.
this is good news. - 1 year ago
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Darevalo
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jaystyx
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This is great news. People shouldn’t spend more than they have. However, banks are all too willing to cover the $2.00 you went over on a debit card purchase if it means charging a steep fee.
It’s a greedy practice that needs to stop.
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jaystyx
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rebelution07
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This is great and it makes sense.
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rebelution07
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Ihatethemall
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I see you all seem to agree with this concept. Now if we could just get the feds to understand the same thing we may start heading in the right direction.
Course when has government ever understood simple logic. - 1 year ago
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Ihatethemall
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CalgarC
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Woohoo Pie and beer for everybody
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CalgarC
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oppressed1
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I have a boa account with direct depost, and two weeks ago the long weekend fucked up my payment. In turn i over drafted three time buying beer and shit. 105 fucking dollars. I called, and bitched and all they told me they could do is open a new credit card up for me.
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oppressed1
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Ihatethemall
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oppressed1:
How kind of them huh. Lets open a credit card for you so you can pay unGodly interest rates and be indebted to us for life.
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Ihatethemall
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Ihatethemall:
lol no shit, these mother fuckers said i could have a 2500 limit with 14%
hmm setting me up for failure, maybe i should switch banks.
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oppressed1
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imadvanced
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oppressed1:
sounds like its time for a new bank?
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imadvanced
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Michael_Gomez
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I use my bank account for cash advances sometimes, and understand I'm going to have to pay the overdraft fee. People need to keep better tabs on their account balances; then again I've accidentally used the wrong card on multiple occasions (and had to rage at overdraft fees).
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Michael_Gomez
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Alex_French
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i have a BOA debit account and i for one am tired of being charged $35 overdraft fees when i get gas and go over by 2 cents. im glad that this is happening. why should you be able to spend more money than you have anyways? duh.
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Alex_French
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obamaisajoke [removed]
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lionessgrrl
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obamaisajoke:
seriously? have you seen gas and food prices? its not hard to accidentally overspend on essentials at all.
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lionessgrrl
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psweens087
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this should be common sense. if you dont have the money, you shouldnt be able to take out the money. its that simple.
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psweens087
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psweens087:
I could not agree more. The problem that we have with this entire banking system, the problem that caused this whole financial meltdown, is that banks aren't trying to just make an honest buck, they're purposely trying to trap consumers in debt that they will never be able to pay off so that they can continue to squeeze them for money for the rest of their lives. Removing the ability to spend more on a debit card that you have is a step in the right direction for the banks, and I wholeheartedly support it.
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TentativeChaos
