Animal suicide sheds light on human behaviour
source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35798594/ns/technology_and_science-science/
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The idea that animals could actually be very good models for human suicide started to take root in the 20th century, said Edmund Ramsden, one of the study's authors.
If animals can be deliberately self-destructive, they could also then help us to better understand the same behaviors in humans, argue the study's authors, Ramsden, of the University of Exeter in the U.K. and Duncan Wilson of the University of Manchester.
"You begin to challenge the definition of suicide. The body and mind are so damaged by stress and so it leads to self destruction. It's not necessarily even a choice," he said.
There are many stories of animal suicide dating back centuries. In 1845, for example, the Illustrated London News reported a "Singular Case of Suicide" involving a "fine, handsome and valuable black dog, of the Newfoundland species." The dog had for days been acting less lively than usual, but then was seen "to throw himself in the water and endeavor to sink by preserving perfect stillness of the legs and feet."
The dog was rescued and tied up. But as soon as he was released he entered the water again and tried to sink himself. This occurred several times until at last the dog appeared to tire and "by dint of keeping his head determinedly under water for a few minutes, succeeded at last in obtaining his object, for when taken out this time he was indeed dead."
Such anecdotes tend to reflect the values of the societies they are from, said Ramsden.
In the 19th century animal suicides were often seen as acts of abuse, madness, love or loyalty — the same causes then given for human suicides. In earlier times, such qualities were denied, but animals were still used to help define suicide.
"For (St.) Augustine and (Thomas) Aquinas it goes against natural law and so goes against God's law," Ramsden told Discovery News. They called on the lack of suicide in Nature as proof that people should not kill themselves.
"...suicide is contrary to the inclination of nature," Aquinas wrote.
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nursediesel
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Our oldest dog and our cat were buds, they'd walk together, nap together; the cat would walk back and forth under the dogs jowls to pet himself.... The dog passed away suddenly walking up the steps, just leaned against the railing and died; still standing when we found her.
We thought after a week or so we'd lose the cat, too because he wouldn't eat. It took a couple of weeks before he ate again, he lost so much weight. He missed his buddy.... - 1 year ago
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nursediesel
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lordsbassman
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whales are fat.
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lordsbassman
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notrepublican
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What a tragic waste of cuteness.
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notrepublican
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HowdyDo
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The dog was probably sick. My aunt's dog, who was really old, walked into the pool one day and never came out. She had lived around that pool all her life and never fell in until then. There have been cases where cats/dogs can sense death in a nursing home - they can probably sense their own, as well.
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HowdyDo
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diode
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how do we know they're not just dumb when it comes to these things
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diode
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keithponder
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diode:
nothing dumb could ever be that calculating.
that's how.
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keithponder
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Chapisbored
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What reasons would a dog have to kill itself? Up til now I thought that only humans could be that determined to kill themself. And how honest was the Illustrated London News? That story sounds too crazy to be true.
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Chapisbored
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keithponder
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Chapisbored:
they could possibly hate the facts that they're the pets, and we're the MASTERS, and they hate like SHIT being tied up and CHAINED. They might possibly hate the fact that people make them fight each other for nothing.
Tell you what.. Why don't you ask GOD to let you come back in your next life as a DOG, since this is so hard for to conceive.
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keithponder
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NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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Chapisbored:
dogs and every other animal have feeling too, just because they are not able to be expressed us humans express them. In my opinion i think dogs would have plenty of reasons to kill them selves. especially if they are abused or underfed. people who have dogs as pets usually only get them cause they are cute at first but then give them barely any attention in later years and the dogs feel they are not wanted.
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NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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Sw3rv
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WTF
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Sw3rv
