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Texas Conservatives Revise School Textbooks

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After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday voted to approve a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, stressing the role of Christianity in American history and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light.

The vote was 11 to 4, with 10 Republicans and one Democrat voting for the curriculum, and four Democrats voting against.

The board, whose members are elected, has influence beyond Texas because the state is one of the largest purchasers of textbooks. In the digital age, however, that influence has been diminished as technological advances have made it possible for publishers to tailor books to individual states.

In recent years, board members have been locked in an ideological battle between a bloc of conservatives who question Darwin’s theory of evolution and believe the Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles and a handful of Democrats and moderate Republicans who have fought to preserve the teaching of Darwinism and the separation of church and state.

Since January, Republicans on the board have passed more than 160 amendments to the 120-page curriculum standards affecting history, sociology and economics courses from elementary to high school. The standards were proposed by a board of teachers.

Efforts by Hispanic board members to include more Latino figures as role models for the state’s large Hispanic population were consistently defeated, prompting one member, Mary Helen Berlanga, to storm out of a meeting late Thursday night, saying, “They can just pretend this is a white America and Hispanics don’t exist.”

“They are going overboard, they are not experts, they are not historians,” she said. “They are rewriting history, not only of Texas but of the United States and the world.”
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  • remanns
  • Maureen_Casey
  • Chique
  • hnrast
    • -2
      hnrast  
    • Those who consider themselves followers of Jesus Christ must follow the gospel of Jesus Christ only, and they must embody the moral guiding consciousness of the entire Nation. In other words, the US Supreme Court ruling of 1947 must be reversed, since there is no separation of church and state, the Bible must be reinstated in public education, abortion on demand must be reversed alongside divorce, sodomy, and euthanasia laws. Clinton’s executive order 13087 must be reversed, alongside same sex marriage law, and homosexuals must repent and turn away from their filthy habits or they must go back to the underground closets they come from, and where they most appropriately belong.
      Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Jesus also said “So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
      Millions of people confuse organized religion with Christianity. Christianity has absolutely nothing in common with Organized Pseudo Christian Religion. Jesus did not come from heaven to earth to establish a religion, Jesus Christ come down from heaven to earth to reunite lost human beings to God the Father, and to build up His Kingdom through His sacrificial dead on a cruel cross, and His glorious resurrection from the dead.
      There is no doubt that through pseudo Christian Organized Denominational Religion America is being destroyed. Where were the Organized Religious Leaders when Politicians and US Supreme Court Justices legalized one abomination after the other in a span of sixty-three years? They were all together celebrating for the lack of concern of “we the people”
      The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” but that is exactly what congress did in 1954. The ruthless 36th President of the United States of America Lyndon B. Johnson, then Senator of Texas, and company, violated the First Amendment by introducing a devious amendment to the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code establishing Secular Humanism in order to bind, and silence the Church of Jesus Christ by eliminating the significant influence it had up until that moment in shaping moral public policy, in affecting legislation, and in addressing moral issues in opposition to government legalized abominations.
      Organized denominational churches all across the land are being gagged by the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code, therefore they are prohibited to shape public policy, they are prohibited to draft legislation, and they are prohibited to mobilize in support of political candidates. Today’s 99.9 % of America’s Organized Pseudo Christian mainline churches are being gagged by the U.S. Government, therefore America has not only lost her moral voice, but it has also lost all sense of direction, it is just like a headless man heading straight for the pit of hell.
      Below is an excerpt taken from the tyrannical IRS Tax Guide for Churches, and Religious Organizations, Publication 1828 (Rev. 6-2008) Catalog Number 21096G.
      A Church incorporated through the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code, must have an IRS recognized and approved creed of worship, and a system of doctrine.
      Pastors must remain Neutral on Political Issues.
      Pastors, may not create a Political Action Committee, nor support Legislation
      Pastors may not take a stand against the Tax System.
      Pastors must advocate and support Multiculturalism or Globalism.
      Pastors may not state that children belong to parents rather than the State.
      Pastors may not oppose the Public School System.
      Pastors may not publicly declare obedience to God, rather than the Government.
      Pastors must give to the IRS an account of all the financial transactions of the Church.
      Pastors must provide the names of all Church donors to the IRS.
      Organized Denominational Pseudo Christian Religion in America is like a boxer facing his opponent with his arms tied behind his back, he is only a punching bag unable to defend himself, let alone win. That is why in the last sixty years the wicked succeeded in legalizing one godless abomination after the other.
      True Christians must forsake any Pseudo Christian church gagged under the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code, and they must begin to meet in homes, even a believing husband and wife constitutes the church, since Jesus said in Matthew 18: 20, “For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
      The future of America it is not found in Organized Denominational Pseudo Christian churches, the future of America is in the hands of the true and invisible church of Jesus Christ sprinkled like salt throughout the land. The church must rise up and take control away from the wicked. King Jesus himself gave the church the following mandate in Luke 10:19, “I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.”

    • 1 year ago
  • shizzam
    • +2
      shizzam  
    • hnrast:

      all i heard in that was "i do not believe people should make choices for themselves and I feel that if people will not willingly go to church, then we should ram it down the children's throats before they are actually capable of making a choice for themselves"

    • 1 year ago
  • galwayman
  • spanky07
  • galwayman
    • 0
      galwayman  
    • spanky07:

      Am sure you and those like you would do exactly that well fine jerk but folks like me will fight to remain free of the taint of organized religion that seeks to take away the right to self determination! The religious right must never be allowed back into power and if we have to we'll stop you by force of arms if we have to!

    • 1 year ago
  • mr_tibbles
  • remanns
  • Follow_me
  • hnrast
    • -1
      hnrast  
    • Since your contributors have no idea of what I am talking about we can’t have a meaningful conversation. I thought, maybe I could reach them by speaking their own language, but that’s not working either. Well, C'est la vie.

    • 1 year ago
  • hnrast
    • -1
      hnrast  
    • Makes me glad I'm going ta college out o' state. I can finally jet Texas. it has gotten ta da point where christens scar da fuq out o' me also, who iz writing an' printing an' distributing an' making da contracted state monies? let dem do it, dey iz idiots, an' dey will only end up raising chil'ns who iz hungry fo' da other side o' da story...in da end, they conservative censorship will come back ta bite dem in da ass...by way o' they offspring. That'swhy I mention all o' those things cuz da cities in Texas iz just as eclectic as da big ones dat we's know on da east an' west coasts. mo' than one would th'o't
      it'salmost as if da citizens an' da da system iz two different entities an' da lawmakers iz delusional while da great mix o' cultures live an' thrive as dey please.
      I live in Texas an' when things like dis here happen I feel like da walls iz slowly closing in on me, an' dat brothas in da world iz getting crazier by da day. I trip dat one day I will be living in fear o' getting lynched by extremist conservatives dat won't like it dat I'm open-minded an' don' believe everything dat da Bible states, cuz da Bible wuz written by men.. long ago. Just cuz I choose not ta drink da kool-aid don' mean I should be discriminated.
      I would rather home-school muh ma fuckin chil'ns than gots dem be brainwashed an' not be allowed ta th'o't fo' themselves. We might as well not even exist at dat point. It'speeps like dis here who put "In God We Trust" on uh secular country'smoney...

      Ya' know what I'm sayin'?

    • 1 year ago
  • 02
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      02  
    • hnrast:

      Your rant above has no value. None at all. There are perfectly smart people who simply and honestly do not think the god presented by religions and certainly by the christian religion and bible, etc are real.

      They aren't against your life, nor are they disrespecting you. They do not believe this stuff. They may disrespect religion but not you for believing it. They have thought about it as much as you - and think it is a fairy tail. Plain and simple. That's what they think.

      You should understand they are wholly honest. You should get that.

      Then also, sarcastic and disrespectful (and especially as it is inaccurate) posts such as this will be unwelcome.

      You sound like some little kid. Get some self-respect and straighten up.

    • 1 year ago
  • Kyle_Crenshaw
  • Darlink
  • spanky07
  • remanns
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  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • let them do it, they are idiots, and they will only end up raising children who are hungry for the other side of the story...in the end, their conservative censorship will come back to bite them in the ass...by way of their offspring.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • coffeemusician
    • +1
      coffeemusician  
    • I live in Texas and when things like this happen I feel like the walls are slowly closing in on me, and that everyone in the world is getting crazier by the day. I worry that one day I will be living in fear of getting lynched by extremist conservatives that won't like it that I'm open-minded and don't believe everything that the Bible states, because the Bible was written by men.. long ago. Just because I choose not to drink the kool-aid doesn't mean I should be discriminated.

      I would rather home-school my children than have them be brainwashed and not be allowed to think for themselves. We might as well not even exist at that point.

    • 1 year ago
  • kellyjean
  • MirrorLake
  • pandaman2105
    • +1
      pandaman2105  
    • This is the reason that Texas has the reputation that it does!

      I hate this because this state really is pretty fucking amazing and diverse. It amazes me how crazy some people are in this "conservative" state. All types of races, thinkers, artists, and truly unique individuals keep me around.

      There was a time when I thought that Mexicans were the only other group besides blacks and whites in Texas. Over time, I've experienced a little bit of every culture on earth.

      Where else could you experience authentic cuisine from all over the world, associate with Bengalis, Hindis, middle easterners, roam with gypsies, experience one of the biggest music festivals on earth, have a taste of almost every Asian nation, find Cuban, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Brazilian food in one city, mingle with stoners and modern hippies, find barbecue, gay clubs, Indian celebrations, little bits of Europe, and a capitol city that is the center for artistically liberal freethinkers and alternative lifestyles??????

      It just seems that every part of the state has evolved immensely over time and the people of the government are the fucked up close-minded people who idiotically maintain the conservative hick stereotype, oblivious to the intelligent truths that are everywhere but in front of their faces; the ethnic, intellectual, and open-minded reality.

      There are people from nations who have come here for a different kind of life and to escape governmental control that has historically plagued their homelands. Why the fuck is there any need for this kind of educational indoctrination??

      It is only up to the parents to instill the knowledge that the future generations can think for themselves and learn beyond the classroom.

    • 1 year ago
  • BigJoeSixPack
    • 0
      BigJoeSixPack  
    • pandaman2105:

      All the reasons you named are their reasons for going backwards and lying about history: All them foreigners and gays! They are out to take it back...back to a time when the great state of Texas was poor and not all like New York and California-- all mixed up and forward thinking.

    • 1 year ago
  • HaloedGriot
    • 0
      HaloedGriot  
    • pandaman2105:

      "Where else could you experience authentic cuisine from all over the world, associate with Bengalis, Hindis, middle easterners, roam with gypsies, experience one of the biggest music festivals on earth, have a taste of almost every Asian nation, find Cuban, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Brazilian food in one city, mingle with stoners and modern hippies, find barbecue, gay clubs, Indian celebrations, little bits of Europe, and a capitol city that is the center for artistically liberal freethinkers and alternative lifestyles."

      Try San Francisco and Los Angeles...a lot less bullshit, too...literally.

    • 1 year ago
  • pandaman2105
    • 0
      pandaman2105  
    • HaloedGriot:

      that's why i mention all of those things because the cities in Texas are just as eclectic as the big ones that we know on the east and west coasts. more than one would think

      it's almost as if the citizens and the government are two different entities and the lawmakers are delusional while the great mix of cultures live and thrive as they please.

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptB
  • tylervictoria1
  • BigJoeSixPack
  • kenzkenz
    • +2
      kenzkenz  
    • If they looked far enough back in history these board members would realize that nearly all the points and figureheads in christian history were adapted from pagan religions mainly to give people of pagan religions deities and values they could relate to in hopes of converting them so that the catholic church could gain more control over the population.
      I think this is absolutely ridiculous because religion and general education have no place standing side by side or in this case, hand in hand. Homeschooling is starting to look more and more glamorous to me.
      I cannot understand how any parent whether they be christian or not would stand for this "change of history" if you will. I see history as something we should all learn from and not something that should be twisted to suit religious views.

    • 1 year ago
  • tommic
    • +4
      tommic  
    • Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      It is quite clear in this writing that the founding fathers wanted religion to be a personal choice and to not be foisted upon another. It is your choice but not to impose on others. Its interpertation.
      Thomas Jefferson wrote in the margin of the document of a wall between church and state that not be bridged. There was some disagreement on this issue thats why it was written into the margins and not the text itself. You can see it in person at the library of congress in washington dc

    • 1 year ago
  • UrbanGypsy
  • spanky07
  • galwayman
    • 0
      galwayman  
    • spanky07:

      In case you didn't see the story the religious right will shove religion down our throats if they get the chance and don't care what you,or I,think about that! All religion is crap and seeks to deprive us of the right to self determination! Further the right doesn't care about the truth only their truth! Texas has taken the leadership on this and will brainwash children in the schools against the wishes of those who object to this backward policy! Once the right gets back into power this policy will become a national policy and anyone who objects will be jailed and branded as a terrorist supporter! Organized religion fears freedom of choice and I believe the quote I heard was: "we don't care what people think we'll force them too"! These so called Christians clearly mean to force each and every American into a church of their choice!

    • 1 year ago
  • hnrast
    • -5
      hnrast  
    • A dumbbell is someone who is characterized by self-centeredness and concerned exclusively with self, as opposed to the well being of the whole. Idiocy is the natural state of ignorance into which all dumbbells are indoctrinated, and citizens in the other hand are made, through well-rounded education.

      In 1963, the tyrannical Justices of U.S. Supreme Court bypassed the US Congress Legislative Branch in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and legislated from the bench in Abington v. Schempp by a majority vote of 8-1, declaring the Bible, and Prayer Recitation unconstitutional, after being a part of America’s public schools curriculum for over one hundred and fifty years. Consequently, America is now like a ship without a rudder, and without a compass. America is being tossed back and forth, and blown here and there by every wind of doctrine, and by the craftiness of scheming and deceitful men.

      Most Americans live like the devil from Monday to Saturday, but on Sundays they attend church with their holy worship masks in place, believing they are pleasing both, God and the devil. They proudly reproduce themselves by sending their children, those that have escaped the abortionist knife, to public schools where young impressionable minds are being corrupted with the fairy tale of evolution, sex education or more accurately sex perversions, and in the arts of sodomy, giving a leading condom manufacturer the audacity to create extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old.

      Roman politicians indulged and manipulated the masses with bread and circus, and American Politicians aren’t any different, they indulge the cravings of the eye in order to manipulate the dumbbells into submission with beer, pot, sports, and religion. Politicians know that the dumbbells like to reproduce themselves by proudly indoctrinating their children through public education into the arts of sodomy, abortion, euthanasia, divorce, and same sex marriage. The dumbbells awards should go to those Americans acting like helpless little children that call 911 for assistance when their car’s accelerator pedals become stuck, instead of switching the car to neutral and the ignition to the off position

      Consequently, America is in an irrevocable path to perdition, and at the present rate of moral decay the Wicked Fools soon will succeed in legalizing Pedophilia, the act of an adult engaging in sexual activities with a child or children, followed by Incest, the act of engaging in sexual activities between persons closely related, and Bestiality, the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal or animals, and they may even manage to legalize Necrophilia, the act of engaging in sexual relations with a corpse. Now that the perverts have been emboldened for their success in legalizing Same Sex Marriage there is nothing to prevent them from marrying mere children as soon as they succeed in lowering the age of consent through NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association
      The dumbbells comprise about ninety percent of the population, and since they can no longer submit to a king, now they submit to Uncle Sam, and look up to the State as protector and provider, and for their health care needs, including the right to free abortions. Nothing will ever change since the dumbbells are as death as a door nails spiritually speaking, nothing can save them from their sorry condition, unless God intervenes by quickening their spirit. Everything the dumbbells hold dear is nothing but a trap and a snare leading them straight to eternal damnation.

    • 1 year ago
  • Saladin
    • +3
      Saladin  
    • hnrast:

      That's right, the decline of the nation is caused by the Supreme Court correctly ruling that FORCING kids to pray in PUBLIC SCHOOLS violates the first amendment.

      Please, get a fucking clue. You stand at the opposite end of what it means to be educated and your points are so drenched in blind speculation and apocalyptic desire that I literally could not read it without facepalming.

    • 1 year ago
  • hnrast
    • -1
      hnrast  
    • Saladin:

      Ignorance is the malady of the ignorant, that's why you just don’t know that you don’t know. Above all, you mouth off empty boastful words and you have no shame whatsoever, you do not even know how to blush. You are convinced that stupidity is a virtue, and you blaspheme in matters you do not understand. You are like brute beast, a creature of instinct born to be destroyed, and like a beasts you too will perish. You also entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error, and promise them freedom, while all along you are nothing more than a slave of depravity.

    • 1 year ago
  • Ajil
    • 0
      Ajil  
    • hnrast:

      Well I guess your just going to have to pray to die soon or watch as people break free from religious control, to do as they please. Its time for those that have made the choice to subscribe to certain faiths to realize the rights men have to be blasphemers. You can think the worst in us, swear that we are all going to hell for eternal damnation; but you know what? I've dealt with the fear, and chose to live my life with love instead. If you cant stand the idea of love coming in more ways then what your faith tells you is right, then swallow your pride and accept the fact that you are enjoying the rights of freedom that we all are. You cannot limit our freedoms to your standards. You cannot tell us that we have to change to your liking. What you can do is read the Bible that the Romans put together hundreds of years after Jesus died (literally not the word of God, but the selection of a covenant), and watch as people all around you enjoy their freedom!

    • 1 year ago
  • EmperorThan
  • 02
    • 0
      02  
    • EmperorThan:

      That's a great idea. That just great - make a whole bunch of different bibles until they know that they have no idea what the 'real bible' says.

      That's what has already happened, of course, it's just that they don't know it.

    • 1 year ago
  • uptop
  • EmperorThan
  • EmperorThan
  • Maureen_Casey
  • remanns
  • tommic
    • +1
      tommic  
    • Celticjoy there is no doubt that this will be challenged in court for exactly what you write. It is a clear violation of church and state. Calling ACLU where are you?
      Just hope it never gets to the Supreme Court with Scalia,Thomas, Roberts we'd be doomed

    • 1 year ago
  • celticjoy
    • +2
      celticjoy  
    • Last time I checked the US Constitution state that there would be "separation of church and state". Since the school system is run byt the government this is in direction violation of the US Constitution. To do otherwise undermines this great countries very foundation and I am deeply disappointed in the government of Texas.

      In 1797, the United States Senate ratified a treaty with Tripoli that stated in Article 11:

      As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; .

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
  • tainerz
    • +2
      tainerz  
    • If they, the Board Members, wanted to edit History they should of found a job at a publishing house. I don't believe it should be in a Board's jurisdiction to exploit the precedent as district authority over curriculum, to actually modify the story of history. They are board members, not Historians, not Doctors, not any authority who has published papers, or done research which conclusively and accurately over-rules today's current view in history, nor is excepted by the greater Education Community; and thus, leads to this beautiful contradiction and poetic irony.

      Basically, an uneducated modification on education. Go Texas!

      Two solutions,

      1) Enroll your kid in private school and do whatever you want! That's what you pay for... There's a thought..... (Here's to all the parents who believe Religion shouldn't stay separate and out of public school!)
      2) Why don't they try to get the American Historical Society to change their view on the subject, and I'm assuming ::wink, wink:: , since they are basing their decision on flawless reasoning backed by educated research and documentation, it should be rather easy for them. Plus, rather than have an alternate truth, we all can be teaching their/the "correct view." Though, one guess why they haven't gone that route! -- Hmmmm, even educators think they are bat-shit crazy!??

      I suppose 'Everything is bigger in Texas' is true, even the dumb-asses prove to be!

      PS.. Still Luv you Texas, but you gotta admit this is rather crazy! I should hope you would give California as hard of a time if we tried something like that! (Say for shits and giggles edited our History Books to lean, Regan is the Devil and Obama is the next great liberal since Jesus) You know you people in the south and conservatives alike (tv hosts & pundits included) would straight FLIP A TIT! Which is why in Cali, we don't let one runaway neo-crazy liberal district do such a thing, like alter the reality our students are learning! THAT WOULD BE DUMB........... Are you taking notes?

      Sorry, maybe it was that bowl full of diva I had for breakfast.

    • 1 year ago
  • tommic
    • 0
      tommic  
    • It would be nice if we could just eject Texas as part of the United States and let all the religious nuts live there.

    • 1 year ago
  • hnrast
    • -2
      hnrast  
    • A dumbbell is someone who is characterized by self-centeredness and concerned exclusively with self, as opposed to the well being of the whole. Idiocy is the natural state of ignorance into which all dumbbells are indoctrinated, and citizens in the other hand are made, through well-rounded education.

      In 1963, the tyrannical Justices of U.S. Supreme Court bypassed the US Congress Legislative Branch in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and legislated from the bench in Abington v. Schempp by a majority vote of 8-1, declaring the Bible, and Prayer Recitation unconstitutional, after being a part of America’s public schools curriculum for over one hundred and fifty years. Consequently, America is now like a ship without a rudder, and without a compass. America is being tossed back and forth, and blown here and there by every wind of doctrine, and by the craftiness of scheming and deceitful men.

      Most Americans live like the devil from Monday to Saturday, but on Sundays they attend church with their holy worship masks in place, believing they are pleasing both, God and the devil. They proudly reproduce themselves by sending their children, those that have escaped the abortionist knife, to public schools where young impressionable minds are being corrupted with the fairy tale of evolution, sex education or more accurately sex perversions, and in the arts of sodomy, giving a leading condom manufacturer the audacity to create extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old.

      Roman politicians indulged and manipulated the masses with bread and circus, and American Politicians aren’t any different, they indulge the cravings of the eye in order to manipulate the dumbbells into submission with beer, pot, sports, and religion. Politicians know that the dumbbells like to reproduce themselves by proudly indoctrinating their children through public education into the arts of sodomy, abortion, euthanasia, divorce, and same sex marriage. The dumbbells awards should go to those Americans acting like helpless little children that call 911 for assistance when their car’s accelerator pedals become stuck, instead of switching the car to neutral and the ignition to the off position

      Consequently, America is in an irrevocable path to perdition, and at the present rate of moral decay the Wicked Fools soon will succeed in legalizing Pedophilia, the act of an adult engaging in sexual activities with a child or children, followed by Incest, the act of engaging in sexual activities between persons closely related, and Bestiality, the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal or animals, and they may even manage to legalize Necrophilia, the act of engaging in sexual relations with a corpse. Now that the perverts have been emboldened for their success in legalizing Same Sex Marriage there is nothing to prevent them from marrying mere children as soon as they succeed in lowering the age of consent through NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association
      The dumbbells comprise about ninety percent of the population, and since they can no longer submit to a king, now they submit to Uncle Sam, and look up to the State as protector and provider, and for their health care needs, including the right to free abortions. Nothing will ever change since the dumbbells are as death as a door nails spiritually speaking, nothing can save them from their sorry condition, unless God intervenes by quickening their spirit. Everything the dumbbells hold dear is nothing but a trap and a snare leading them straight to eternal damnation.

    • 1 year ago
  • tommic
    • 0
      tommic  
    • hnrast:

      People like you need to visit the mental hospital for a month.
      Is fear the best fastball you can throw?
      No one ever said mankind was either kind or gracious.
      Deal with it
      but then again maybe you are by using this format to vent your crazy rage

    • 1 year ago
  • telcod
    • +4
      telcod  
    • hnrast:

      You seem to like making deals with the devil though. To believe the U.S. has been, is or will be a moral country is the trap of attempting to mix politics with religious dogma. Jesus was no friend to Rome. He was not a republican or a democrat. Your preoccupation with homosexuality seems a little miss-focused. Wasn't big on the mind of Jesus. What, he mentioned it once or twice. Seems to me He talked about loving and helping your neighbor, what, 300 times. The opposite of love is not hate, it is fear. If God fears nothing, then to fear is to offend God. But then again, if God is love, he sees nothing else. Lucky for you. You seem very frightened. If you abandon love, you abandoned God.

    • 1 year ago
  • 02
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      02  
    • hnrast:

      Religion is idiocy. You got your head in box. Your eyes are closed.

      Everything in the human world are constructions of human thought - the bible is old on the list and lacking information newer then several hundred years.

      That newer information is available to you and if you look at the universe (which you must admit is what the subject is), you'll see that humans and their tinker-toy thoughts don't measure up.

      You will then know that your bible doesn't measure up - to God - and all your hopes and efforts have been constructed into a false view.

      If you really want to know God, you should realize, firstly, you are sitting right in the middle of it. To refuse to look is to refuse God.

      Now the ballgame you have been playing has just pitched the ball into your court - are you to refuse to find what you have been seeking?

    • 1 year ago
  • magnusdeus
  • 02
    • 0
      02  
    • hnrast:

      I'll tell you what happens when everybody dies. The brain flat lines. There is no experience at all. - If the person survives, they will report (for the time of flat lined brain function) no experience, no sense of time having passed, - at all.

      When you die, you flat-line, the brain dies, your body rots.

      It has become somebody else's turn. Your turn is over.

      So, my prescription: You only live once and for a very short time. There is no fantasy place in the great beyond and you are wholly, completely and utterly wasting the only time you have, hoping for it.

    • 1 year ago
  • RoBot_rOcKer
  • telcod
    • +1
      telcod  
    • Let's party like it's 1699. Watch "Zeitgeist." Thomas Paine (founding father) was an atheist. And George Washington gave up church altogether. These men in Texas are not conservatives, they are reactionaries and revisionists. Sounds like old time Iran. Deals with the devil. Organized religion is a very scary god fan club, with the emphasis on "club." Oh, yeah, and I am sure that Jesus was a republican, cause when I think of Jesus, I think of republicans, capitalists and Texas. Did you know that intelligence is not mentioned once in the Bible?

      Peace be upon you. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    • 1 year ago
  • tainerz
  • telcod
  • UrbanGypsy
    • 0
      UrbanGypsy  
    • telcod:

      Oh man, A Brief History of Disbelief is an excellent documentary from the BBC. I recommend it to everyone I know who is interested in the topic. Absolutely excellent...

    • 1 year ago
  • Haruki_Hirasawa
    • 0
      Haruki_Hirasawa  
    • And people wonder why America lags behind all other first world countries in education. I mean I can understand that you are lagging behind Japan and Korea, since they are very stringent in their education programs, but what about Canada? We most likely spend the same amount of time and effort for education, but we still manage to stay ahead of you!

    • 1 year ago
  • Jerrigity
  • TimmorrowDalken
    • 0
      TimmorrowDalken  
    • i mean imagine if almost 80% percent were forced at gun point to walk halfway across america to there concentration and immenent death. the whole way women were raped, children tortured with bayonets, and men randomly shot in awkward places so that they would die slowly. but don't worry those enforcing guards had jesus in their hearts making all that forgiveable

    • 1 year ago
  • 02
    • 0
      02  
    • TimmorrowDalken:

      I believe religion is a scourge - but certainly those would not be considered "christian acts". I think the whites that engaged in the killing were all a kind from a time.

      People seem to think in concert - and we can see a plain difference, one time to another.

      In the 1860s, they'd go out chasing into a village as though they had found gold. A mindless zeal can overtake most mobs. But it's the kind of personages, the people themselves, raised in the world they were raised - conjoining with those of their time.

      Who knows why anyone doesn't realize what they're doing? Maybe it's development. Kids can go out and shoot animals for fun. It isn't fun for the animals - but they don't tarry on those thoughts.

      Were the white pillagers all giddy with excitement - did the lessers among them feel they were earning a kinship with their betters? Did they go cry for some drama to some boozy wife or brothel mistress about how crazy it made them? Did they go cry to a preacher for yet more drama?

      They were sleazy, bigoted people.

      How much of their feelings of privilege are still at the root of power?

    • 1 year ago
  • TimmorrowDalken
  • TimmorrowDalken
    • 0
      TimmorrowDalken  
    • the founding fathers were unitarian universalists, which in my book aren't even really christians, an conservatism is responsible for every ounce of indusrial lag from the south a place that would be completely different (a third world country) had it not been for the super industry complexes the union leadership put there in an attempt to catch the south up during the world wars and the cold war and it still didn't really work because the most national tension in service budgets comes from southern states whom don't even want that "socialism".yeah throw tha in your text books you friggin texans, ha christianity in the U.S. has been the primary defense of the ethnic cleansing that took place in the mid 1800s. in a period of 15 years 80% of the native population(the native population previous was slightly larger than the current number of citizens within americas borders today) of america died in oklahoma. mass genocide performed by the U.S. goverment, its justification, Manifest Destiny, the christian god wills us to asorb what is rightfully the white christian mans.

    • 1 year ago
  • MistressOfJade
    • +2
      MistressOfJade  
    • Umm major WHAT THE F?!
      Educational texts used for SCHOOL should be NEUTRAL. Not liberal, not conservative, but the gray area in between. The middle ground.
      Ugh you can't REWRITE history in your own BIASED point of view to document true events. Ugh. That is absolutely RIDICULOUS!!

    • 1 year ago
  • Kyle_Crenshaw
  • ryan8566
  • tainerz
  • galwayman
    • 0
      galwayman  
    • are the people of Texas crazy not to fight this outrage? protest! fight in the streets! Don't let your children be brainwashed! say goodbye to the separation of church and state! say goodbye Texas to your civil rights! these people are as bad as the Moslim hoard out to convert or kill us!

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • UndoInfluence
  • ryan8566
  • 24French
  • Cicada_Song
  • hnrast
    • -1
      hnrast  
    • Wolves in sheep clothing working from within the bowels of Public Education have succeeded in wresting the rights of Americans by withholding historical facts, such as the fact that the Founding Fathers had no intention of having in the Americas any particular Christian Denomination as the head of the State, since that was the main reason why they fled England in the first place. In England the Founders were constantly harassed and persecuted by the Anglican Church whose head is a mere human being, the present reigning monarch, or King George at that time. And that’s the reason why the Founders included in the First Amendment to the US Constitution the restrictive clause, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”
      At the same time, they wanted to have the God given freedom of worship by declaring into law “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” including in all branches of Governments. Since the Founding Fathers were Christians, they also firmly believed that Christianity and government must always be intertwined, as stated by Romans 13.
      In 1873, US Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story III on Commentaries on the Constitution said, "The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects (denominations) and to prevent any national ecclesiastical patronage of the national government."
      Seventy-four years after Justice Joseph Story III of the US Supreme Court wrote Commentaries on the Constitution, in 1947, the tyrannical Justices of the US Supreme Court enacted a fictitious wall of separation between Church and State upon the fifty states of the Union. Chief Justice Hugo Black who was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, fooled the spiritless American people together with the so-called Christian Leaders of America by forming an unholy union in order to silence the church of Jesus Christ, and succeeded in erecting a fictitious wall of separation between Church and State, contrary to what the Founding Fathers envisioned, in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and Romans 13.
      Jesus said, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? And that’s exactly what Senator Lyndon B. Johnson did in 1954. Johnson introduced in the U.S. Congress a devious amendment to the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code, and established the United States National Church of Secular Humanism, with the idea of binding, and gagging the Church of Jesus Christ, thus eliminating the significant influence it had up until that time in shaping sound public policy, in affecting legislation, and in addressing issues in opposition to ungodly legislation.
      In 1963, the tyrannical Justices of U.S. Supreme Court bypassed the US Congress Legislative Branch in violation of the U.S. Constitution, and legislated from the bench in Abington v. Schempp by a majority vote of 8-1, declaring the Bible, and Prayer Recitation unconstitutional, after being a part of America’s public schools curriculum for over one hundred and fifty years. Consequently, America is now like a ship without a rudder, and without a compass. America is being tossed back and forth, and blown here and there by every wind of doctrine, and by the craftiness of scheming and deceitful men.
      After erecting in 1947 a fictional wall of separation between Church and State, and after gagging the church of Jesus Christ in 1954 through the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code, and after removing the Bible from Public Education in 1963, again in 1973 the tyrannical Justices of the US Supreme Court imposed legalized premeditated murder on demand, or abortion on demand, consequently over 52 million children were slaughtered since 1973, and counting.
      And in 1998, U.S. President William J. Clinton signed executive order 13087, which was nothing more than the glorification, and affirmation of homosexuals, lesbians, and transgender into Public Education, and into America’s workforce, and once more as predictable as the sun, the Christian Clergy of America compelled by greed, played out their blind, and dumb act one more time.
      The church has been taken out of the political arena in 1954 through the IRS 501c3 Tax-Exempt Code by wolves in sheep clothing, which are not only residing inside the churches of America, but also in Washington DC as well, and contrary to God’s word found in Romans 13.
      Romans 13:1-2, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves”
      Which means that God has established both, the Church, and the Civil Government, therefore the secular ruling authorities such as the U.S. President, the entire U.S Congress, the Justice System, Governors, and Mayors, must all be in submission to Jesus Christ under the authority of the Church or the people, and the Church or the people must be in submission under the headship of Jesus Christ. Thus, according to Romans 13, and the US Constitution, and the will of the Founding Fathers, the church or the people must embody the moral guiding consciousness of the entire Nation.

      The Government on the other hand has the authority to enforce all civil laws, Romans 13: 4, “For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer”
      It is crystal clear, Romans 13 teaches that a wall of Separation between Church and State does not exist, but only inside the minds of deceivers and deceived alike, it is as phony as a three-dollar bill, and one of the biggest hoaxes perpetrated against the church or the people. The First Amendment to the US Constitution was drafted in part, to prohibit the establishment of any particular Christian Denomination from becoming the official national religion of the US, but that does not mean the government should be isolated from the holy, and perfect will of God.

      Patrick Henry, Founding Father, and tireless champion of liberty, in a Speech to the House of Burgesses said, “It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”
      Right now deceiving usurpers are misleading the people or the churches of America, in secret partnership with the political tyrants of Washington DC, who are not only lording over the church or the people one perversion after another, but they are also fleecing them as well, through exorbitant taxation.
      Daniel Webster, leading American statesman said, "If religious books are not widely circulated among the masses in this country, I do not know what is going to become of us as a nation. If truth be not diffused, error will be; If God and His Word are not known and received, the devil and his works will gain the ascendancy, If the evangelical volume does not reach every hamlet, the pages of a corrupt and licentious literature will; If the power of the Gospel is not felt throughout the length and breadth of the land, anarchy and misrule, degradation and misery, corruption and darkness will reign without mitigation or end."

    • 1 year ago
  • ImissLaura
  • ryan8566
  • ryan8566
  • 02
  • tainerz
    • 0
      tainerz  
    • hnrast:

      So on agreeing with the article, is that a YES or a NO?

      I have a good guess but I'd like to know the official answer. Read the whole thing and I'm still not sure if you are smart or a little CooCoo... I don't mean for my bluntness to come off as rude, but after that loooong comment I can't take any more beating around the bush....

    • 1 year ago
  • telcod
    • 0
      telcod  
    • hnrast:

      Guess the Gospel ain't being felt in these neck of the woods. Then again, when did that good old religion get codified? Oh yeah, it was by order of the pagan ruler, Constantine. I think a lot got re-written and left out by the Council of Nicaea about 325 AD. Constantine saw the power of Christianity to dominate and control very clearly. He, however, preferred to die a pagan. How come you don't have an Icon?

    • 1 year ago
  • hnrast
    • 0
      hnrast  
    • Your system is rejecting 7, 982 characters with spaces, less than your 8,000 characters allowed. What is the problem?

    • 1 year ago
  • tainerz
  • nlflahe
    • 0
      nlflahe  
    • School is meant to present children with information. I attend school in New York and teachers are fired for sharing opinions with students, its unethical.

    • 1 year ago
  • tylervictoria1
  • beastieb6y
    • +2
      beastieb6y  
    • I love Austin, but the rest of Texas is backwards. Why can't we just teach our children to think for themselves about what has occurred in history by providing different perspectives on historical events? What would it sound like if we told it from the perspective of the native American? I think we'd all have a very different perspective.

    • 1 year ago
  • occhipij
  • My_America
    • 0
      My_America  
    • occhipij:

      The founding father's were guided more by the principles of christianity vs. actually being christians themselves. There were atheist and secular founding father's that still agreed with the pricnciples of christianity.

    • 1 year ago
  • Saladin
    • +1
      Saladin  
    • occhipij:

      Right here.

      Considering that "the founding fathers" refers to a group of 55 people, at least, the term is utterly meaningless.

      Most of them were deists, people that believe there is a god out there somewhere but he doesn't interfere with the regular world, fewer were Christians but none or almost none resemble the Fundie weirdos that walk around today. And they certainly didn't think we should mandate Christian teachings in the government.

      Check out Thomas Jefferson's Virgina Statute on Religious Freedom, you'll get your answer right away.

    • 1 year ago
  • pjacobs51
  • insaintity
  • 3L1
  • randomly
  • indecisiveh
  • NuclearLullaby
    • +2
      NuclearLullaby  
    • More proof that conservatives are dumb! They have to make text books that fit in with all their lies & hidden agendas!!! This is being done in Texas! Better make them picture books so Bush has a chance to understand them!!! I think this is one text book that students in a lot of places would simply want to take a torch to! Conservatives already own several major TV networks to fill up with their lies! they don't need to mess up text books as well!!! Conservatives just want everything their way & will bitch & moan about everything that's not their way! They have to mess up things as much as they can! It's really like what a small child will do when you tell them no! They throw a temper tantrum!!! The Idea of Conservatives even trying to do something like this reminds me a HELL of a lot of things Hitler did! Hitler banned books & put stuff all over Germany to support his ways!!! If you think Hitler was in any ways good,then you are absolutely insane!!! Doing ANYTHING one sided opens up everything to a hell of a lot of lies & deceptions! There are probably some idiots out there these days who actually think Colombus discovered America!!! & I know at least one dumb ass will try to strike me down for writing this,but come on!!! Changing things to fit your ways??? If you love Hitler,fine! Just stay away from me!!!

    • 1 year ago
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