Canadian Parliament Serving Seal Meat at Lunch (Next Wednesday) In Support of Hunters
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Canadian Parliament Serving Seal Meat At Lunch In Support Of HuntersCHARMAINE NORONHA | 03/ 8/10 03:49 PM | AP
TORONTO — The Canadian Parliament's restaurant will serve seal meat this week in support of hunters battling a European Union ban on seal products, a Liberal senator said Monday.
Celine Hervieux-Payette said Wednesday's seal meat lunch menu will allow politicians to demonstrate their backing for the annual hunt.
"All political parties will have the opportunity to demonstrate to the international community the solidarity of the Canadian Parliament behind those who earn a living from the seal hunt," she said in a statement.
The EU ban on seal imports was imposed last July on the grounds that Canada's annual hunt was inhumane.
The East Coast seal hunt, the largest in the world, kills an average of 275,000 harp seals during mid-November to mid-May. The seals are either shot or hit over the head with a spiked club called a hakapik.
Animal rights groups believe the hunt is cruel, poorly monitored and provides little economic benefit. Seal hunters and Canadian authorities say it is sustainable, humane and provides income for isolated communities.
The EU ban includes processed goods derived from seals, including their skins – which are used to make coats, bags and clothing – as well as meat, oil blubber, organs and seal oil, which is used in some omega-3 pills.
It exempts products derived from traditional hunts carried out by Inuit in Canada's Arctic, as well as those from Greenland, Alaska and Russia.
Canada has requested consultations with the EU at the World Trade Organization, which is the first step before launching an official trade challenge to salvage a Canadian industry valued at $10 million Canadian dollars ($9.7 million) in exports last year.
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morirjedi
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This is what they have always have done. The populations are still healthy. I love how people in warm clean rooms can make he rules over people living basically outdoors. Wish i could eat some as well.
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morirjedi
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Stephen_Anderson
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to the idiot,that says they are just leveling out the seals,to stop over population of the species,does he/she not know the world is grossly over populated by humans.who is going to decide which of us is to be murdered to keep the popultion under control??????or who is going to be selected to be clubbed to death,as you idiots say humanely.let me know.im sure we could get some volunteers to club you sickos for a change. humane my arse.
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Stephen_Anderson
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JustCommonSense1000
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Stephen_Anderson:
Sorry, but you are the "idiot", as you so ineloquently put it. What's the difference in harvesting seals and in harvesting cod? - So harp seal pups are cuter? So what!
Maybe you're a vegetarian. If so, that's your choice. - Humans are omniverous. Most of us like to chow down on some great meat - whether it be beef, veal, pork etc (Hey, a calf or lamb is cute too) - or just an ugly pig. Should we only eat ugly animals?? LOL - I'd like to try harp seal meat. Though I'd let it stand on its own merits, either tasty or not.
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JustCommonSense1000
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Stephen_Anderson
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i would love to have a laser gun ,and go and wipe out these evil bastards,how would they react ,if someone came along and started clubbing there babys.there would be shock ,horror,revulsion.and yet goverments are actually ,not only condoning this evil,but actually backing this sick,evil barbarism.the world can now see what a truely evil goverment the canadian goverment is.if it were third world countries doing this,the out rage in the western media would be deafening.to me that makes every so called civilised western country ,complicit in this evil ,for by there silence they are condoning this sick evil murder.hang your heads in shame obama,brown.and all the other sick bastards in power,who are in a position to stop this.and just turn a blind eye to it all.rot in hell you murdering bastards.
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JustCommonSense1000
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Stephen_Anderson:
What an idiot. Just amazing.
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JustCommonSense1000
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bking74
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Who decides what animals are okay to slaughter and eat and what animals should be protected. Is there some sort of international board that decides which animals are just to cute to eat and which so ugly that just have to slaughter and consume.
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bking74
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courage
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the prob;em is the insane desire to preserve a obsolete culture that should have gone extinct hundreds of years ago are we preserving the headhunters of the amazon or the canibals of the congo the inuit should go get jobs and eat mcdonalds like normal people
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courage
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Elligirl
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courage:
McDonald's is better? Have you seen how their cattle farms have destroyed their environments, just to supply the modern world with Quarter Pounders?
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Elligirl
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The little darlings are killed humanely and quickly, and every scrap is used. We use the same standards with beef cattle, but I'd wager the seal meat is probably cleaner and healthier at this point. Good for the gov't for standing up for the Inuit/Northern people's way of traditional life!
As for the buffalo comment -- the Comanche and Sioux didn't hunt bison into extinction, white man did by hunting with rifles from trains for SPORT. That's a heck of a difference.
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Elligirl
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EthicalVegan
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Elligirl:
HUMANELY?!?!??!?!!?
Are you out of your bloody mind, girl? Please watch the video, and tell us what part of what you see in that video could possibly be considered HUMANE.
And no, "every 'scrap'" is NOT used, not anymore (except, perhaps, only by the northernmost Inuit).
Humanely?!?!?!?!?! I think not.
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EthicalVegan
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BoomChaka
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EthicalVegan:
conflicting data methinks
"A 2002 report in the Canadian Veterinary Journal found that "the large majority of seals taken during this hunt … are killed in an acceptably humane manner."
This study found that 98 per cent of hunted seals it examined had been killed properly. The federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) cites this study among others as proof that the hunt opponents are wrong in their accusations of widespread cruelty.
Regarding the "skinning alive" charge, the DFO says appearances can be deceiving. "Sometimes a seal may appear to be moving after it has been killed," the DFO says. "However, seals have a swimming reflex that is active, even after death. This reflex falsely appears as though the animal is still alive when it is clearly dead — similar to the reflex in chickens."
Furthermore, the DFO says the club, or hakapik, used by many sealers is "an efficient tool" that kills "quickly and humanely." The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing in Canada found that clubbing, when properly performed, is at least as humane as killing methods in commercial slaughterhouses. Opponents say clubbing often isn't "properly performed."
The federal government acknowledges that it has laid more than 200 charges against sealers since 1996, but argues that shows it's serious about enforcing its regulations"
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Elligirl:
I didn't say anything about which race was responsible for killing the buffalo you twit.
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Almibry
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heeeellp meeee
How can you say no to a face like that?
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Almibry
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Almibry
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don't eat me, pleeease
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Almibry
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Almibry
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/59657
I was going to say something I thought was funny, but would be really insensitive, until I saw the pic. Did you just go through and pick the cutest seal that ever got photographed? It's adorable!
I was almost expecting this to be along the lines of "Eat the seal to save the salmon" which would be stupid still, but eating seal to protest a ban that sounds fair to me isn't any less stupid. Don't eat seal unless you're in a survival situation, it probably tastes like crap anyway. Look at that. As a chef, let me tell you that that is one crappy piece of meat. 2" of fat, and do you see how fibrous the meat is? That means it's tough. Unless it's got spectacular flavor (which I doubt) it's good for stew, and that's about it. An unknown chef from North Eastern Canada said, "Taste wise it is like a long cooked beef and a bit of liver, hints of chewiness and a slight marine flavour..." - 3 years ago
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan
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Almibry:
Why would you ruin it all by adding such a sickening photo to such a sensitive issue?
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan:
Oh please!! Did you watch the video you added? With the baby seals being brained with clubs? In the 7 pics you posted, 5 of them were "sick". Only 1/3 of mine are. I was just trying to answer some questions. Most people in America have no idea of what seal looks like outside of pictures, we have even less knowledge about what it's like as a food. I was just trying to answer the questions in the back of every meateater's mind, "What's seal meat like?" And I could have gone with a much worse photo of the end product, a seal patte on a biscuit that actually looked pretty tasty, but I chose this one instead because to even an untrained eye, this looks gross. Your photos were sickening, this doesn't look at all like a baby seal that's been beaten to death, it could be a shitty piece of beef for all you know. But just because your reaction, I think I should find that patte and see if you find that more tasteful.
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan
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Almibry:
I submitted the photos of the baby harp seals so people might finally get an understanding of WHOM they are eating. Sometimes that's all it takes.
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Almibry:
"...this doesn't look at all like a baby seal that's been beaten to death, it could be a crappy piece of beef for all you know."
But you're the one who posted that meat photo!
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Almibry:
"Oh please!! Did you watch the video you added? With the baby seals being brained with clubs? "
Of COURSE I did, because I submitted the video BECAUSE I care that damn much! And I don't make jokes about mass slaughterings, or even about the "cuteness" choices of photos. Again, people need to know whom it is they are eating.
So I must also ask you -- in all sincerity, to be sure -- why DID you post a picture of meat on a plate, alluding to its being that of a slaughtered seal?
And I also feel a need to ask why you had to give the baking temperature for seal's meat.
It's just that I am getting mixed messages from you, and if you genuinely, truly care about the terrifying slaughter processes of seals, then I beg you to please express that, and stick to that. That's MY feeling, MY wish.
I honestly cannot tell if you approve or disapprove of a ban on seal slaughter.
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EthicalVegan:
Better? This is one of the more attractive seal dishes, I imagine this (along with the pie, or stew approach) would be the best way to get a flavorful dish be cause you can mix it with several different veggies and spices to infuse it with flavor, and with a patte, you run the meat through a food processor, so you don't have to worry about the meat becoming too tough to eat with cooking.
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EthicalVegan:
This would be a more traditional approach, with the seal meat served raw.
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EthicalVegan:
And of course, the stew. Yeah... Looks like crap doesn't it? Well, I hear Asian people don't like cheese, so who's to judge?
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Almibry
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan:
Because you're posting an article on people killing seals for food among other things. My original intention was to present it as unappetizing, now I'm just presenting it. This is how the seals are being processed and eaten. And I'm not alluding to it being slaughtered seal, it IS slaughtered seal, it's a slab of meat being prepared for a meal at this point. I'm surprised at your reaction in all honesty, because what you posted was far more graphic and disturbing.
As for why this my seem contradictory: I like animals, but I also eat them AND I'm a cook. I'm interested in all foods from all cultures. Sue me. And from what I read on this issue so far, I'm for the ban because it also included an exception for the native cultures that rely on seal still. - 3 years ago
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan:
Where did I joke about mass slaughterings?
And what's so wrong with thinking they're cute? Even baby naked mole rats are cute, and I just love larvae. I could just eat them up!
;P
PS. Don't pretend you didn't want to know what eating seal would be like. Just because I'm the only person with enough balls to post it doesn't mean I was the only one to wonder about it. - 3 years ago
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24French
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What, no recipes? Seal hash or grilled seal dogs? This is a bizarro turn of events, regardless of Inuit tradition. I would love to see footage of the cafeteria serving the seal. Perhaps the protesters could wear spitting image baby seal masks and just sit silently at the tables... The funny/not-funny borderland has been reached.
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unimatrix0
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This is an atrocity.
PETA has done a great deal of good work raising awareness on this issue.
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unimatrix0:
And trying to kill a culture that goes back hundreds of years.
Uni pushing peta is making you look like a rear end in a top hat.
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Almibry
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BIGDADDYMELVIN:
We said the same about buffalo, and they would extinct today if we tree huggers didn't ban together to stop the systematic slaughter of the buffalo for their skins and tongues. I understand 6th grade history is a bit much, but stick with it!
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Almibry
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Almibry:
this is hardly a systematic slaughter. they simply put out a quota of 100 000 to 300 000 seals each year depending on the conditions and based on the advice of enviromentalists. Enough to keep the population level.
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BoomChaka
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blackheartman
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Maybe someone could beat the hell out of one of these parliament members with a baseball bat and serve them for lunch. MMMM, good eats.
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blackheartman
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courage
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would seal be considered sea food or game?
I just got a great ideaA slogan Stop killing seals polar bears need them to live
its for the polar bears daddy. - 3 years ago
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Almibry
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courage:
Game. If for no other reason then it's cooking temp, which I would guess to be at about 145F, seafood cooks at 135F.
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Guyatthebusstation
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Seal tastes good. I don't see any problems.
Plus they have a nice pelts!
Thats a twofer!
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trut
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Cool! I think they would make good pepperoni too! Especially the really tasty looking white one with blood pouring out its mouth. Good Times!!
You must hate nature quite a bit, Ethical. - 3 years ago
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trut:
How pleasantly intelligent and mature... and KIND... of you.
THIS, obviously, is not NATURE at work, nor is it natural.
Thanks ever for your hatred.
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EthicalVegan:
impying its not natural to hunt and eat of the land? you know we are animals right? animals that have canines? animals that have only been farming for a small part of our history? it is more natureal to hunt of the land and eat then 1.)being a vegan 2.) eating food from a supermarket. this is completely natural. They don't even use guns, just clubs like the old days.
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Guyatthebusstation:
No, they use guns too, which you would know if you watched the video. And sure, I have canines, I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian, I like my meat, but this is wasteful. Most of these babies aren't even being eaten, but are killed for their skins, which is nothing new for us humans, but it is something that only humans do. What other animal do you know of that will systematically hunt down and kill it's prey, then not even make full use of it? The ban in question isn't going to eliminate the seal hunt, just limit it to the people who actually need the seal hunt to live, which sounds more in line with the hunter mentality that you seem to support so strongly.
And being a vegan is more natural then the lifestyle of pretty much every other diet related group, they only eat organic foods which is as natural as you can get moron. - 3 years ago
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Almibry
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Guyatthebusstation:
They DO use guns. They use both weapons. You obviously didn't watch the video before jumping in.
And of course, the killing I'M talking about is the kind done not with one's bare hands, but you know that, too. And the seal pup killing is for their skins, not their "meat." You just like to antagonize.
That old "canines" argument is so effing boring, I'm telling you. If we used our canines the way you're suggesting they were designed, they'd all have ripped out from trying to tear up skin and meat impossible to bite into.
You simply like to argue, so I can't go further with you. You're an unfortunate person in that you have this perverse need to incite, and it makes you so incredibly unappealing.
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Harp seal pups are famous for their big black eyes and fluffy white fur. These are their trademarks in their first two weeks of life. But these beautiful and gentle creatures have the unfortunate status of annually suffering the largest slaughter of any marine mammal species on the planet.
Every spring, great numbers of pregnant harp seals gather together on the stark ice floes off the Canadian Atlantic coastline of Newfoundland and Labrador and in the Gulf of St. Lawrence to the east of Quebec to give birth to their babies.
Commonly referred to as whitecoats, these famous babies are astounding in their innocence, individuality, and beauty. Their images have been captured in a thousand ways and distributed around the world, making them the most recognizable and well known of nature's innocent and precious creatures. It is ironic and sad that all this recognition does nothing to help their plight as these seal pups are the victims of a brutal annual massacre in a politically-driven, propaganda-supported slaughter.
Every year, when the time is "right" (as soon as the ice conditions permit and the seal pups start shedding their fuzzy white coats), about 2,000 to 6,000 Canadian fishermen (most of European descent and most living in Newfoundland and the Magdalen Islands of Quebec), find their way to the floes and proceed to club, bludgeon, shoot, and skin hundreds of thousands of harp seals, most just a few weeks to a few months old.
Today's modern seal "hunt" isn't really much of a hunt at all... In fact, depending on the condition of the ice flows, the sealers can have varying degrees of difficulty in getting to the seals. Methods include: walking from their trucks, driving up to them with their snowmobiles, taking commercial icebreaking boats to distant ice flows, then getting out of the boats and walking to them, or shooting seals from the larger ships or smaller boats. Canadian Coast Guard Icebreaker ships often locate seal herds and shepherd sealers to them by breaking a path through the ice for them. Aerial reconnaissance is also used to locate the seals.
Once they find the seals, the true horrific nature of this bizarre event unfolds. In the first phase of the hunt (in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, dominated by sealers from the Magdalen Islands of Quebec), sealers typically approach the seals and then club them with 'hakapiks' (long sticks with a hooked blade at one end). After clubbing the seals, they are supposed to perform the 'blinking-eye' test, checking whether the seals blink, before skinning them. If the seal is not dead, sealers may dispatch the seal with a variety of methods, including kicking in the face and/ or continuing to beat the seal pups on the head with the hakapiks. The sealer may move on to other seals before skinning them or may skin them at that time. He will drag the seal to the boat with the hook end of the hakapik. If the sealer did not bother to check whether the seal was dead, the seal may conscious when the hooked blade is plunged into its mouth or head. An analysis by a panel of veterinarians showed that about 40% of the seals are actually skinned alive.
In the second phase of the seal hunt, on the Front, in the waters off Newfoundland and Labrador, seals are more mobile and able to swim, so sealers (mostly Newfoundland fishermen) typically shoot them from their boats. They aim for the head to avoid damaging the pelt. If they miss and wound the seal, they may get out of the boat and club the seal, unless the seal gets away into the water. In that case, the seal likely dies in the water and may never be recovered (or counted towards the quota). Sealers retrieve the seals with hooks, e.g., the hooked end of the hakapik, so if the seal was not killed by the bullet, it may be conscious when the hook is plunged into its mouth and it is dragged on the boat.
Adults and resisting mothers may be shot and/ or clubbed and skinned and in the case of males, may have their penis bones removed. (Typically the penis bones are harvested from adult males). If convenient to do so, some of the bodies are recovered and processed into pet food or used to feed the animals in fur farms (though this is rare). About 95% of the seals killed in the commercial seal 'hunt' are no more than 3 months old.
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http://www.itsnature.org/Ice/images/article-images/harp-seal-baby.jpg
http://www.hsus.org/protectseal.html
Stop Canada's cruel seal hunt. Sign this pledge.
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EthicalVegan:
its illegal to hunt whitecoats, and it has been since 1987
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EthicalVegan
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http://www.sea-way.org/blog/seal_hunting_reuters04.jpg
The unfairness of it all - Human and hakapik versus little seal
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EthicalVegan
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http://www.britannica.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/spotty-seal.jpg
Seal hunter using hakapik to end the life of this seal
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EthicalVegan
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EthicalVegan
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http://www.canadiantouristboard.com/clubbed.jpg
Baby harp seal just clubbed to death
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EthicalVegan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GGHgYbDmtM
Seal hunting video
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Almibry
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EthicalVegan:
This video made me vomit a little.
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Almibry